Brown U Student Shares His Story Of Sexual Assault

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9 жыл бұрын

It was Andrew's sixth day of his freshman year at Brown University when he was assaulted by a male student in his dorm bathroom. When Andrew brought on-campus charges, his assailant was permanently expelled.
Unlike myriad students who report mishandled cases in the burgeoning national campaign against sexual assault, Andrew initially believed his case was handled appropriately.
But after further research from The Huffington Post revealed Andrew’s assailant had previously been found accountable for two other cases of sexual misconduct and not expelled, Andrew was devastated.
Andrew has decided to share his story in hopes that victims of assault -- and specifically male victims -- be taken more seriously.
“It’s time to include male survivors’ voices,” he said. “We are up against a system that’s not designed to help us.”
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@timothygallemore928
@timothygallemore928 5 жыл бұрын
I was assaulted in 1982. I am glad times are changing where a man can be open and heal from being a victim. I still struggle with healing. I am now 54.
@jelliefishhiee
@jelliefishhiee 5 жыл бұрын
Timothy Gallemore I’m so sorry. I hope you can find peace soon. Just know your life is so much more than that one terrible incident.💜
@danielsakalkohen8713
@danielsakalkohen8713 4 жыл бұрын
I was assaulted the last year, and i'm struggling to keep my old lifestyle, i don't date men anymore, i just stopped having casual sex, cause the idea to be with another man makes me sick
@2.1.4-bk7np
@2.1.4-bk7np 4 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ I’m so sorry for that
@alikareem3393
@alikareem3393 4 жыл бұрын
May Allah help u 😔
@Machinegun-dq3wl
@Machinegun-dq3wl 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing it’s always disappointing to see that no one cares about male rape victims I wish we got more respect
@samudikarathnayake3392
@samudikarathnayake3392 5 жыл бұрын
That happened to my brother too. He was just 17 and his own best friend this to him. My brother was like a small child. He tried to commit suicide after the sexual assault. He was depressed. I’m so happy that my mum finally got the justice for Liam after fighting for him for 2 years! Now he is recovered. His social phobia is gone. My little baby is okay♥️
@itsme2200
@itsme2200 3 жыл бұрын
YAY I’m so glad he’s better! I hope he can find a partner and way better friends if he wants. He sounds so sweet and I bet he deserves the world.
@rachelbrown3766
@rachelbrown3766 3 жыл бұрын
Psalm 34:18 *"The LORD is near to those who have a broken heart, And saves such as have a contrite spirit."* Matthew 11:27 *"Jesus said, “Come to me, all of you who are weary and carry heavy burdens, and I will give you rest."* John 6:37 Jesus says *"Everyone the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will NEVER drive away."* 🌱🙏🏽🤍
@Moszan
@Moszan 3 жыл бұрын
@@rachelbrown3766 Where was Jesus when this nightmare happened?
@UdayKumar-zm4ft
@UdayKumar-zm4ft 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry for you! Glad you guys helped him.. Are u a blink by the way ( i saw ur profile )
@ADRENERGlC
@ADRENERGlC 2 жыл бұрын
@@rachelbrown3766 Yhea yhea, im also pretty sure the bible says somewhere that when you rape a virgin you "have ;)" to marry her. But of course you wouldn't mention that in your comment 😂
@1985Seraphim
@1985Seraphim 5 жыл бұрын
Man that’s just horrible. I’m sorry for what happened to him and every victim of sexual assault
@Michael-te7fj
@Michael-te7fj 2 жыл бұрын
Why you are sorry for Andrew is stunning to me. Yes, every victim of sexual assault should be respected for what they have gone through. Willingly walking into a bathroom stall with another man to have sex, regretting it later, and making a claim of sexual assault is revolting behavior. Don't want to have sex, don't go into bathroom stalls and have sex of your own free will. Just say no and/or walk away.
@Michael-te7fj
@Michael-te7fj 2 жыл бұрын
If the other guy told Andrew to jump off a bridge would Andrew have jumped? What about the guy in the bathroom stall made Andrew go in with him? Could it be that he wanted sex so he went into one of the most profoundly private places known universally, where one defecates? Why is this not obvious. If anything, both young men should have been put on suspension for getting it on in a public place wherein Innocent students rightfully expect to be able to go to do their nonsexual bodily functions without having to deal with moans, groans, or whatever one does in private when engaging sex. Andrew, in my opinion, is no victim and did something indecent by calling this sexual assault.
@mileshalpern9320
@mileshalpern9320 2 жыл бұрын
@@Michael-te7fj Damn right!
@austinballard6815
@austinballard6815 2 жыл бұрын
@@mileshalpern9320 hey Michael so did you do this? Is that why your so upset and all over this page? You take this awfully personally....
@mileshalpern9320
@mileshalpern9320 2 жыл бұрын
@@austinballard6815 what are you talking about?
@ElectricSpokes
@ElectricSpokes 5 жыл бұрын
I was confused, ashamed, angry, disgusted, I punched a hole in the wall. I’ll never forget.
@dakota.c.5397
@dakota.c.5397 4 жыл бұрын
Dame I felt that on another level 😬
@darky1376
@darky1376 3 жыл бұрын
@@dakota.c.5397 Is that funny to you
@grawakendream8980
@grawakendream8980 2 ай бұрын
@@darky1376 the person is obviously empathizing with them; take some slowed breaths
@golamakthar8796
@golamakthar8796 22 күн бұрын
I’m sorry
@tinabaker8151
@tinabaker8151 5 жыл бұрын
Men Too!!!!!!!!! Yes this does happen to men. This Does happen to little boys!!!!! I can’t count how many men have share their stories with me. Women babysitters, their moms drunk friends🥃 their moms, grandmothers, aunts, The preachers wife, and the list goes on and on!!!! I am very old!!!! These men are very brave today!!! They share their stories for the world to see🌎 they will save lives, they will make a difference. Inspirational !!!!!!!!!!!! Men ☮️
@MaddieMittz
@MaddieMittz 4 жыл бұрын
Faith Kaisiepo ikr?! And women say they want equality…😒😔
@sherryjackson8474
@sherryjackson8474 4 жыл бұрын
Tina Baker When we blame GIRLS for what we wear we blame men for not being able to fight back.😤
@Michael-te7fj
@Michael-te7fj 4 жыл бұрын
@@sherryjackson8474 Don't people like you ever tire? Girls are not blamed for what they wear. Anyone that thinks raping a girl is dependent on what she was wearing is insane. Sane people don't think that way. So I say, stop throwing out nonsense.
@cosmic_114
@cosmic_114 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I searched up men s****l harrasment reports even men experience these stuff
@imkingelijah
@imkingelijah 3 жыл бұрын
Same bro happend to me when I was in kindergarten by a women teacher I feel sad and embarrassed
@arctic3309
@arctic3309 3 жыл бұрын
Im so proud of you for coming out as sexually assaulted. I feel like its harder for boys/men because everybody always says that men cant be sexually assaulted which is quite frankly straight up bullshit
@hindsightpov4218
@hindsightpov4218 3 жыл бұрын
It’s toxic masculinity. Anyone can be assaulted. Toxic masculinity is why men are not likely to speak openly as adults that they were molested as children. It doesn’t matter they were little helpless kids. Toxic masculinity is still used to shame them. That shame is weaponized even more when assault happens to men as adults.
@Michael-te7fj
@Michael-te7fj 3 жыл бұрын
@@hindsightpov4218 Oh please, he had willing sex with a guy in a stall.
@lennardusyoutube8505
@lennardusyoutube8505 3 жыл бұрын
@@Michael-te7fj see there are you again what do you get out of this
@queennicole5628
@queennicole5628 2 жыл бұрын
Ppl tht says that. They apart of the problem and it piss me off when ppl say tht. I hate when ppl say tht it non sense and bs and sad
@arctic3309
@arctic3309 2 жыл бұрын
@@Michael-te7fj What about that says willing
@lovely-mk4rt
@lovely-mk4rt 5 жыл бұрын
I’m so sorry not only for what happened but by some of the negative comments. You very brave to speak up. At the same time when we do, the fear and panic may/ mostly happens over and over. May you find peace 🕊
@fabstouchcosmetics3191
@fabstouchcosmetics3191 3 ай бұрын
Where are the négative comment you are pointed????
@jamalgivens9373
@jamalgivens9373 2 жыл бұрын
I feel so sorry for him. Thank you Andrew for your story. I was the victim of sexual assault at the age of 10 by my own family member (Cousin) and to this day, it still haunts me.
@Michael-te7fj
@Michael-te7fj Жыл бұрын
For God's sake, you were a child. Andrew was a college student that had consensual sex in a college-dorm bathroom stall and later had the guy he had sex with thrown out of the school because he claimed (somehow) that he was the victim even though it was he (Andrew) that followed the other guy into the bathroom stall. Stop confusing real victims which you were, with this creep Andrew. Andrew had bad sex, regretted it, and made a sexual assault claim. Listen to him in his own pathetic words.
@user-cg1qq2er8x
@user-cg1qq2er8x Жыл бұрын
Jamal, Andrew in his own words had sex in a bathroom stall with another dude. The dude motioned to him to come into the stall and he did. What in the hell are you sorry for him for. What happened to you was when you were a child. How can you insult yourself by making such a comparison??
@christianlobrico8815
@christianlobrico8815 3 жыл бұрын
'it's suppose to be more humiliating for me as a man to say that I've been sexually assaulted in some way. Because of what it means to be masculine and you don't let that happen to you.' This broke my heart for this is the very same reason I cry whenever I am storytelling my friends how I was sexually assaulted by my boss, a PASTOR.
@DSX1
@DSX1 2 жыл бұрын
bet he’s catholic
@gordon3186
@gordon3186 2 жыл бұрын
@@DSX1 -- Catholics generally refer to their pastors as "priests." And certainly not their "boss."
@HumanSagaVault
@HumanSagaVault 2 жыл бұрын
Its always the priests and pastors who sexually assaults kids, they are so sex deprived that they see young kids as a terget to satisfy their sexual urges, the very people who we should respect and who should protect us are also the ones who traumatize us with their obscene acts. There are tonnes of documentaries about pastors/priests who molested their younger companions in the ministry. They make the house of God a living hell which is very disgusting🤮🤮🤮
@gordon3186
@gordon3186 2 жыл бұрын
@@HumanSagaVault --- *"... the very people who we should respect"?* *"Anyone who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." ---Voltaire, paraphrased*
@Michael-te7fj
@Michael-te7fj 2 жыл бұрын
Andrew is an adult. Not a kid. We don't allow children to have sex for a reason. We don't allow adults to have children for a reason. Andrew and the other students were adults living in the school dorms.
@alexdee5341
@alexdee5341 2 жыл бұрын
I was assaulted in college when I was 17. He was like my big bro. He did not enroll the following semester. I never saw him again. Even now (I'm 38), I still have nightmares of my ordeal with the guy I looked up to in college.
@jedeye5284
@jedeye5284 2 жыл бұрын
That’s terrible. I hope you know it’s not your fault, he is evil and will suffer. How are you?
@user-cg1qq2er8x
@user-cg1qq2er8x Жыл бұрын
Alex, did you follow another dude into a bathroom stall, because if you did, you should get help. If you were assaulted, you have my deepest sympathy, however, if you willingly had sex in toilet stall with another man, I say grow up and take responsibility for your actions. Andrew got off with another dude and he willingly followed him. The other guy was not a "big bro" to him. The other dude was a stranger that he followed and had "sex" with. That was the word Andrew used, sex. In my opinion, as an actual sexual assault survivor, you should join me and condemn Andrew for making a mockery of actual sexual assault.
@dlhodge7209
@dlhodge7209 Жыл бұрын
@@user-cg1qq2er8x I thought I was the only one who noticed that statement he made. When he said the guy MOTIONED TO HIM to go to the middle stall further into the bathroom that meant he had time to RUN and he didn't. So know, this is not an assault story in the least. This is the beginning of a gay porn saga. NOT INTERESTED.
@dlhodge7209
@dlhodge7209 Жыл бұрын
@@user-cg1qq2er8x When you uncover it the way you did the whole story becomes even more sickening. There are people who have LEGITIMATELY had the unfortunate experience of being raped and he is using the rape narrative to garner attention and undeserved sympathy. Glad you peeled the extra layer on this one. Never thought about the unfortunate fate of the other dude. SAD
@williamgreene8074
@williamgreene8074 2 жыл бұрын
I was sexually molested by three male family members . Much older then me. I was only 4 years old then it continued till 11 years old. The shame the guilt the rage the thoughts of suicide. It’s taken me years of counseling to get to a stage within my life I have freedom. It was never my shame , guilt, rage it was my ubusers. Yes I know as a male myself it’s hard to talk about . Silence is the true killer. I’ll never be silent no more.
@user-cg1qq2er8x
@user-cg1qq2er8x Жыл бұрын
William, for God's sake, you were a child. Andrew was an adult and he followed another dude into a toilet stall to get off. He could have said no, walked away, or whatever. Why are you identifying with this jerk?
@markpopson3406
@markpopson3406 6 жыл бұрын
U r so strong and brave for coming and bringing this story to light! I'm sorry for all the pain and suffering you experienced!
@Michael-te7fj
@Michael-te7fj 6 жыл бұрын
Mark, respectfully, you are crazy. A guy who wanted sex came on to another dude and the guy said yes by not saying no. Not only that, he followed him into a bathroom stall. How about teaching men to act like men? We rightfully protect minors because they can't make informed decisions. We need to have men who are adults. What if there is a war and we need fighting men? Are you f--king kidding me?
@Michael-te7fj
@Michael-te7fj 5 жыл бұрын
@@tylerketchum3315 Tyler, grow up and stop being brainwashed. These were two homosexual men and their customs are different. Sadly, because of having to be secretive for many generations, things like having sex in bathrooms for some are still common. An act of agreeing to come into the stall is a nonverbal cue of saying yes. Then, further consent was given by not saying no. A young man who is not able to say no to an advance into a bathroom stall and then to boot, one that elects to stay there, is one who has the emotional maturity of a child and does not belong in an adult sleep-away environment such as a dorm. Everyone else need not act like a child to accommodate a "kid" who doesn't belong living an adult environment. We are dumbing down adulthood to infantilize. Again, what if God forbid there is a war and we need young men with the backbone to fight it? A young man who can't say no to an advance and in so doing actively participates is a disturbed individual. ...and when and if he grows up, he should seek to in whatever way possible to spend the rest of his life trying to make it up to the other boy who committed only the crime of being an "highly-sexed" young men propositioning another--he won't have been the first sex-driven young guy who somewhat aggressively seduced another person. This somewhat new rap panic is highly orchestrated by a criminal justice system somewhat at the mercy of a feminist dogma that is extreme. Some rape cases were not treated seriously years ago and this was wrong, very wrong, however, with that said, this nonsense is extremest and unethical and zealots like you ought to be ashamed of yourself for going along with it and creating abject hysteria in the process.
@10mimu
@10mimu 4 жыл бұрын
Michael Did you watch the video? Not only he SAID he was not interested, his account is exactly how panicked reactions follow: frozen by fear. Abscence of "no", thus, obviously doesn't mean consent. It takes a minimum of discernment to not continue touching a person who is clearly shocked and afraid. Plus, its a gross and fallacious observation you made on gay men. If two gay men walk into a bathroom, it does not follow necessarily that they will have sex, and we cannot blame sexual assault victims for simply exercising their right to freely move around without being constricted by these generalizations. And then you speak of backbone... yes, maybe if he said something or reacted in a firmer way, it wouldn't have happened. But we can't demand that - we need to demand people (mostly men, and I say this as one) to stop feeling entitled towards others' bodies. Blaming the victims lack of reaction is nonsensical when we should strive, first and foremost, for doing so with the agressor's reaction. This also says much, indirectly, about the absolute irrelevance of yours comments about war. I know this comment is 6 months old, but I cannot abide to stay in silence before it.
@guywhiteside1729
@guywhiteside1729 4 жыл бұрын
Michael, this sounds like this may have happened to you and this is your way of handling it. Do yourself a favor and get help.
@guywhiteside1729
@guywhiteside1729 4 жыл бұрын
You sound like a very angry man.
@tidalpool1
@tidalpool1 4 жыл бұрын
I was molested at the age of 5. It was 5-6 times in a period of about 2 weeks, he was 16. for the next 15 years, I still had nightmares of him entering my room. In my dreams he became a monster, who would kill me if I moved or said anything. My sister met this man at the age of 22, and a party. She knew who he was. She told me later he was well known in his city. He has kids now. I have never identified him, nor confronted him,my memories are so altered by years of nightmares, and years of fear, its hard for me to recall the specifics. I can not trust my own memories, nor my own recollection. I just remember shart pain, and bloody sheets after each attack by the monster. I never told the housekeeper, or my absent parents, Just my sister. I still am hyper modest, and will not be in a room with any many I don't know very well, and will not share a room with any one.
@alibolink0719
@alibolink0719 4 жыл бұрын
I am so sorry that happened. I wish you the best brother
@daniellelove9763
@daniellelove9763 4 жыл бұрын
Bloody sheets?? What happened to make blood come?! (If you don't mind asking..)
@rachelgarcia4301
@rachelgarcia4301 3 жыл бұрын
Hell is real, and he's going to find out. God saw it all.
@rachelbrown3766
@rachelbrown3766 3 жыл бұрын
Psalm 34:18 *"The LORD is near to those who have a broken heart, And saves such as have a contrite spirit."* Matthew 11:27 *"Jesus said, “Come to me, all of you who are weary and carry heavy burdens, and I will give you rest."* John 6:37 Jesus says *"Everyone the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will NEVER drive away."* 🌱🙏🏽🤍
@zrp8y23
@zrp8y23 2 жыл бұрын
@@daniellelove9763 He was penetrated by an older larger boy.
@danhutson3460
@danhutson3460 Жыл бұрын
I was not sexually assaulted per se, but was bullied all thru public school. Many times teachers & office personnel saw it happen & they didn't do anything or just laughed it off. I had fantasies of doing something bad to the perps, but never did for fear of worse retribution. This happened on school buses too. I was so thankful that during my senior year, my best friend had me ride in his car.
@tracedial6216
@tracedial6216 4 ай бұрын
Danhutson3460, I am a gay man growing up in a small rural area of 8,000 people. So, OMG been there right with you with the bullies. Bullies do this ignorant stuff when they feel threatened or afraid someone will recognize the attraction. Not always but a large percentage. It all changes once you get out of your hell. Find your chosen family, friends. Those bullies hit their peak in high school, where yours is coming & it will be huge.. if you need to talk I’m here Trace
@gestionhumana8743
@gestionhumana8743 3 жыл бұрын
"You're really hot"? Are you serious?
@MrGahandsome
@MrGahandsome 2 жыл бұрын
Literally nothing happened to him.
@gareman
@gareman 2 жыл бұрын
Incredibly brave to share your story. Sorry you had to go through this at the beginning of your time at University. By sharing you have changed lives of others. This was posted 6 years ago - hope you are having an incredible life!! :)
@BlankName88
@BlankName88 2 жыл бұрын
I've been raped twice. The first time I got drugged at what a friend told me was going to be a house party back in 2014. As soon as I got there, he offered me a drink. I accepted because I thought I was early and wanted to relax. The next thing I remember is him on top of me taking my pants off and then I was out. I woke up next to him the next morning. He was twice my size so I waited for him to get up then I ran out of there as fast as I could . The second time was a few years later. I was out of state at a gas station I walked to because it was close to my hotel to pick up some snacks because I was expecting company. I thought it was going to just be a casual get together. But joke was on me, because the catfish showed up at the gas station, abducted me, then took me to his house, pulled me from the car, and then dragged me inside. I pleaded with him not to because I was still not ready for intimacy (a fact that cost me a relationship) but he didn't care and made me undress.
@tracedial6216
@tracedial6216 4 ай бұрын
OMG, can I give you advice that save my life? Talk about it to anyone, everyone. Keeping it all caged in you will literally kill you. Tell your story, post it here. I did & was shocked by all the concerns. Telling your story could help someone who might get catfished just like you but not make it out. Your story is powerful, it caught my attention out of hundreds I had gotten. I hope this helps If you ever need to talk or help or just to say hi Trace
@Jinxyoutoheaven
@Jinxyoutoheaven 4 жыл бұрын
The worst one happened when I was younger than 9. This man who was a family friend showed me his penis. I ran as fast as I could and told my mom, but she didn’t believe me at the time. I was a very unruly child always getting into trouble. Even though I had forgot the image. The emotion I can’t forget. Fear, and a great sense of betrayal. Because it was done by a family friend. Even when that person was out of my life when my mom told me he was getting married. My stomach turned. I have never mentioned this to my mom as an adult because I just want to keep it in the past. Parents please listen to your kids when they talk to you.
@MandM-tb3lv
@MandM-tb3lv 3 жыл бұрын
You were a child when that truly illegal event happened to you. This man was fully grown and willingly went into a bathroom stall with another man.
@katya.g524
@katya.g524 2 жыл бұрын
M. McC hardly a "fully grown" man.
@user-cg1qq2er8x
@user-cg1qq2er8x Жыл бұрын
You were under nine. Andrew was an adult and walked into a bathroom stall. One can say you were a victim but no one in their right mind can say Andrew was a victim. He followed the other guy into the stall and had "sex." Yes, in Andrew's own words, he had sex in the bathroom. He is a hysterical pathetic man to have regret of his sex and blame the other dude.
@Archive41024
@Archive41024 4 ай бұрын
Sounds like your mom was the problem
@meinardramirez5897
@meinardramirez5897 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing, Andrew. Hearing your story made me feel that I was not alone.
@iamnoone348
@iamnoone348 6 жыл бұрын
Pearse - Situations differ, in some cases there are 2 or more assailats while in other cases the men have been druged.
@devinngeorge
@devinngeorge 6 жыл бұрын
Meinard Ramirez you too have post hookup regret?
@Michael-te7fj
@Michael-te7fj 6 жыл бұрын
Why are you encouraging Andrew? Clearly this kid is so lost as he is not fit to protect himself in the most basic of ways. If someone motions to him to jump out the window, would he jump. If he gets toward the window and that person is lifting him up to throw him out the window will he freeze up and not say, no, or push back, or run or scream or whatever. It's a sickness that is happening at colleges and stop feeding it. Imagine if we had a war and we had to draft young men. Are you kidding me siding with this weakling of a grown man. We need to encourage him to be a man, not a boy, and have agency. It's his body and if he doesn't want to be touched, he has to do whatever necessary to make that clear. The other guy came onto him so big deal. I am straight and if a guy grabbed my crotch, I would just say, Not into that. I wouldn't have him expelled or prosecuted. Sorry, but it's not the same as if someone pinned me down and forced me. Get a grip Andrew defenders. As for concerning himself with masculinity, Andrew doesn't have to worry. A man can resist following another man into a stall.
@darky1376
@darky1376 3 жыл бұрын
@@Michael-te7fj loser! . He froze. Go educate yourself on reaction on abuse. Not everyone is oh so perfect as you I guess. Shameful.
@itsme2200
@itsme2200 3 жыл бұрын
@@Michael-te7fj he didn’t know how to react he was scared. He was touched very inappropriately and nobody cares what you would do he is a man being a little “weaker” doesn’t make him any less of a man he is still one. Your the real weakling because I bet if someone pushed you into a stall you’d freeze too
@rondouglas2625
@rondouglas2625 6 жыл бұрын
I am gay and if he did not want to do something sexual with him, why did he go into the stall?
@jahdagod5563
@jahdagod5563 4 жыл бұрын
HE WAS COERCED. BUT IF A PERSON SAYS I AM NOT INTERESTED...GAME OVER!!! SEXUAL PREFERENCE IS IRRELEVANT...
@MandM-tb3lv
@MandM-tb3lv 3 жыл бұрын
I'm gay too. In our world, if you willingly go into a bathroom stall with another guy, it's on.
@princeothello4153
@princeothello4153 3 жыл бұрын
@@MandM-tb3lv it’s on like popcorn.
@jones2277
@jones2277 4 ай бұрын
@@jahdagod5563how was he coerced? Please explain.
@theindo-germanguy8817
@theindo-germanguy8817 3 жыл бұрын
I wa a victim too, my step cousin and his friends done horrible things to me, they done this while i was 16 to 20 years old, now i'm 21 i moved to India and i feel safe rather than i was in Germany.
@lennardusyoutube8505
@lennardusyoutube8505 3 жыл бұрын
oh man das tut mir leid
@ShinChan-cu8ns
@ShinChan-cu8ns 3 жыл бұрын
Oh u r in india...?
@theindo-germanguy8817
@theindo-germanguy8817 3 жыл бұрын
@@ShinChan-cu8nsyea.
@ShinChan-cu8ns
@ShinChan-cu8ns 3 жыл бұрын
@@theindo-germanguy8817 oh.. Sad to hear something like this happened to u..! ☹️
@dannyche8312
@dannyche8312 Жыл бұрын
I am so sorry for what you guys have gone through, but you were brave enough to say this out! I really appreciate for what you have done for the other freshmen as a peer, I wish you got over this for a long time! Thanks
@user-cg1qq2er8x
@user-cg1qq2er8x Жыл бұрын
Why are you sorry for this guy. He had sex and regretted it and then had the other guy expelled.
@pantsuck11
@pantsuck11 6 жыл бұрын
regret isn't rape
@petarnikolov3227
@petarnikolov3227 5 жыл бұрын
Well done for speaking out Andrew. My ex-boyfriend of 5 years decided to abuse me psychologically and emotionally by watching gang rape videos and softcore peadophille ones too( for 4 days relentless)while laying and masturbating on the bed next to me. He was semipotent and the times we had sex he was weak and uninspiring. He has been thoroughly reported and revealed after he confessed to me that he is a child groomer and rapist. After the sheer horror I found strength to expose him everywhere. I hope he never hurts anyone ever again.
@user-cg1qq2er8x
@user-cg1qq2er8x Жыл бұрын
Why didn't you walk or run away when the child porn was being played. I wouldn't ever watch that crap and no one could make me unless I was tied up or held by gunpoint. Four days, I assume you got up to take a leak, why didn't you leave? Andrew walked into a toilet stall and no one forced him. Neither you nor he should be in adult situations if you cannot say no to illegal or immoral or uncomfortable behavior. You could have been prosecuted for watching that material with your boyfriend and perhaps you should have been because by not walking away your participated. If the two of you were on a hike and your boyfriend started up with a child, would you have stayed with him for four days and watched. Respectfully, I think you need professional help and your boyfriend needs it to and legal investigation as well. You say you exposed him, what about exposing your own culpability for watching that stuff. I find it grotesque that two grown men could watch that crap.
@andrewaway
@andrewaway Жыл бұрын
This is so powerful. I was sexually assaulted around the same time. I was ashamed to complain and held on to the shame for years. One man, a cab driver apologized which was small compensation but not the others. I always felt that I was responsible.
@user-cg1qq2er8x
@user-cg1qq2er8x Жыл бұрын
Powerful, this was pathetic, not powerful. Andrew has sex in a bathroom, has the other dude he had sex with expelled and you call this powerful. This is abject weakness. Andrew appears to be a feckless, disturbed, histrionic, weak male and we should all condemn him for making a mockery of sexual assault claims.
@jjpotter5656
@jjpotter5656 6 жыл бұрын
There is something about this story that sounds fishy or rather attention seeking.
@Michael-te7fj
@Michael-te7fj 6 жыл бұрын
JJ It doesn't sound fishy. It's insane. Utter nonsense. I am not of your generation and we think you guys have lost your mind.
@kwaziofficial
@kwaziofficial 4 жыл бұрын
How could u even say that
@MandM-tb3lv
@MandM-tb3lv 3 жыл бұрын
@@kwaziofficial he said he was motioned into the stall. So he obviously went. Why didn't he just leave?
@samudrapasifik2697
@samudrapasifik2697 2 жыл бұрын
I have a lot of male friends who joke around a lot about sex, and they always seem happy and feel okay about it. And I thought that ALL boys would be okay and feel cool if someone (especially a girl) asaulted them. But I feel sorry for the guys out there like Andrew who hate sexual assaulted. No one should act inappropriately to touch other people's private areas
@TheBlissCatalyst
@TheBlissCatalyst 2 жыл бұрын
He was assaulted by another guy not a girl!
@samuel56551
@samuel56551 Жыл бұрын
You thought someone would be cool about being sexually assaulted ? What planet are you on ?
@tracedial6216
@tracedial6216 2 жыл бұрын
I am a black belt in tae kwon do. I have fought against other black belts during tournaments & won, broken boards with both hands & my feet. I know how to defend myself. In my final year of college while living off campus I was raped. I am also a gay man & so was the other guy. It was a date gone way bad. He wanted & I didn’t & next thing.. well everyone knows what’s next. You were brave I didn’t press charges or anything. I have shared this story with so many people, first year college students. If it can happen to me, YOU, it can happen to anyone. What I do know it was not our fault & we are not to blame for ANYTHING.. Stay strong my friend.. Trace
@MrSerendipity01
@MrSerendipity01 5 ай бұрын
Why didn't you use your tae kwon do skills to defend yourself?
@goddestroyer3416
@goddestroyer3416 4 ай бұрын
Wait what,?
@tracedial6216
@tracedial6216 4 ай бұрын
@@MrSerendipity01 sorry it took so long to respond . When you have a certain color belt, red & higher you are listed in Washington DC & Atlanta Georgia as a lethal weapon. That’s because of years & years of training. Breaking board, sparring with another class mate so if it might happen, gun pulled or knife you can protect yourself rather than killed. The worst thing any person can do when help up with a knife or gun is get in a car with him. DO NOT EVER FOR ANY REASON GO TO ANOTHER LOCATION WITH THAT PERSON. THERE IS ALMOST a 90% you will be murdered or wished. I am a gay good looking & it took only once, a few seconds to let my guard down. I knew better & for that only take responsibility. I never asked for anything from him, not even a kiss. The only reason I did not prosecute him was for what he said the next day when he was standing out next to my car. Yes I came inches from kicking & breaking his leg or jaw. But I would be in jail no matter what he had done. He had a huge personal problem & he needed help not jail time. It's been over 20 + years & yes we keep in touch. Now, he is a great guy & we both grew from that horrible time. Not everyone should forgive, & personally if it was anyone other than him I would have prosecuted. I know it does not make logical sende, but for me, completely. Everyone makes mistakes & I would hope I would be given another chance. He never lied about anything & explained everything knowing if it got out what happened his famous career would probably end. Now if he would have tried to physically hurt me, total different story.. I hope this helps T
@tracedial6216
@tracedial6216 3 ай бұрын
@@goddestroyer3416 thanks for commenting on my posting. WOW …. I SHOULD NOT POST WHEN I'M EXHAUSTED.. THANKS AGAIN.
@disciple0711
@disciple0711 6 жыл бұрын
Unless you were sever sexually assaulted,, please never speculate. I am a heterosexual man who was drugged by a massage therapist and sexually assaulted. I was there only by virtue of the fact that I had been in a serious car accident. This "therapist" it's now in jail as he did this to 3 other people. Same tactic, he gave me a glass of water and what he told me was a muscle relaxer, but wad really a sedative. Within 30 minutes, I felt woozy and I told him I want feeling good. He said to try relaxing, he then smiled when he saw I could barely move, pulled down my pants and the rest I'll leave off here because it's too painful to type. I won a $20,000 lawsuit against the company and it still hadn't helped heal me. I totally believe thus guy. You don't know what you'd do until it happens to you.
@williamw.571
@williamw.571 6 жыл бұрын
Dude, I'm so sorry you had this experience. I'm glad you were bold and got justice. Did any of the other victims testify? I'm a victim's rights advocate and I think I remember this case was this over in Battle Creek, MI? Continue to speak out. Your are one of the many voices for silent male victims of sexual abuse and by letting your voice be heard, you don't realize the power you have in being able to save someone else or help someone else know they are not alone. Proud of you for speaking up.
@shgme7519
@shgme7519 6 жыл бұрын
Dude yours is different. You were drugged, this dude walked into that stall willingly after getting felt up.
@transgoddess31
@transgoddess31 6 жыл бұрын
John Willis being drugged and raped is legitimate. Being felt on....silent but coherent....and follow a man into a stall never saying no is not on any level what you went through
@Michael-te7fj
@Michael-te7fj 6 жыл бұрын
You don't get to decide. I'm sorry you were assaulted but this stuff is crazy. Just say no or too bad. End of story.
@Michael-te7fj
@Michael-te7fj 6 жыл бұрын
Nonsense John. It happened to you but it did not happen to Andrew. You were sedated, Andrew did not say no. Stop relating to anything that sounds like victimhood. What you're doing frankly is depraved and inexcusable. You should be ashamed of yourself comparing the horrors of real sexual assault and rape to this nonsense.
@greathornedowl3644
@greathornedowl3644 Жыл бұрын
😢I am sorry this happened to you, and proud that you were able to share your story and go on to help others.
@user-cg1qq2er8x
@user-cg1qq2er8x Жыл бұрын
why are you sorry for a dude that willingly got off in a public bathroom with another dude he followed into a stall. he is a creep for not coping to what HE did.
@adamtorres833
@adamtorres833 3 жыл бұрын
Reading some of these comments, it's no wonder men don't say anything, but are judged the moment their trauma turns into self destructing behavior.
@Michael-te7fj
@Michael-te7fj 3 жыл бұрын
Men like Andrew should be judged and be condemned without mercy. He has done a terrible thing by ruining the other guy's life, a dude btw, he had sex with because he followed him and did not indicate no.
@rgsuki999
@rgsuki999 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately sexual assault really can happen to anyone by anyone. I am glad that he made the right decision to bring this up to the school board.
@Michael-te7fj
@Michael-te7fj 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, except this was not sexual assault. Andrew willing walked into a bathroom stall with another man and had sex. Let's not dumb down sexual assault to the point where it is meaningless. Sexual assault is a very series crime. This was not that!
@Todd4512
@Todd4512 Жыл бұрын
Wow, this guy is BS. I’m sure the guy who “assaulted “ him was unattractive because if the guy were hot, this would be an entirely different story. This guy acts like a weak violated woman.
@Chipperoo45
@Chipperoo45 6 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but there is something a little off about his whole story.
@heinrichmorand4260
@heinrichmorand4260 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Andrew, experienced that as a child and twice as an adult. people need to know that it is not ok, not for anybody, not anytime
@hawaathuman9986
@hawaathuman9986 3 жыл бұрын
It's so strong of you to share this with us .. sorry you had to go through that.
@user-cg1qq2er8x
@user-cg1qq2er8x Жыл бұрын
He went through nothing. He agreed to have sex in a bathroom stall and walked in of his own free will. Why do you feel he is strong? The dude is a jerk for ever doing this and more of a jerk for reporting it.
@alistairandersonsg1
@alistairandersonsg1 2 жыл бұрын
I was 14 when I was raped I am now 61 and have carried it all these years,constantly coming to the front of my mind it’s like a ghost haunting me.this is the first time I have put anything down in black and white.
@ronhilton9614
@ronhilton9614 2 жыл бұрын
I admire you and respect you. One day I will be able to come out about some things too....
@zrp8y23
@zrp8y23 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully this action will bring you some peace and relief.
@ADG.Est.1988
@ADG.Est.1988 5 жыл бұрын
I don't believe these gentlemen even exchanged words. I think made eye contact and the guy proceeded to follow him and the man groped him.
@Isabelleagirlwhoeatswalls
@Isabelleagirlwhoeatswalls 2 жыл бұрын
We need more man opening up about this.
@jedeye5284
@jedeye5284 2 жыл бұрын
Frustrating to see mostly men giving him crap for opening up
@Oliver-jj4ow
@Oliver-jj4ow Жыл бұрын
You saved me. Your courage is tremendous. Sorry for my bad English ( I am not a native speaker). I was raped as a little kid from a "teacher" and then later again at a "Christmas party" where I work. 95% of all men who have been sexually assaulted don't report the crime. I will seek help. Thanks
@iristhehooman
@iristhehooman 4 жыл бұрын
Wow. It's so sad that so many men are afraid to report because of the ideal that they should be "strong or fight back". Same for the people blaming and discounting Andrew's experience because he did not fight back. In the full article, it was published: "He came up behind Andrew, grabbed his crotch and moved him into the bathroom stall. Frozen, Andrew protested but did not fight back, scared of what would happen if he did. For 15 minutes the stranger assaulted him. Andrew has a hard time articulating what he felt during the assault. All he remembers is being unable to speak or act. “I just remember focusing on the stall door, knowing that he was between me and my escape.”"
@spypengen
@spypengen 3 жыл бұрын
not only because they have to "be strong" Terry Crews came out about how he was sexually assaulted and everyone laughed at him.
@christopherricardo5001
@christopherricardo5001 4 жыл бұрын
I am truly sorry that happened to you, thank you for sharing for you’re story. The courage to speak up !
@Phineas_Huckleberry
@Phineas_Huckleberry Жыл бұрын
I was sexually assaulted in 2011 at my community college, in a bathroom, 500 feet away from the campus substation of the Los Angeles Sheriff's department. When I got away and got to the Sheriff's desk they did nothing...."But, you're a guy". They made no report. The next day I saw my attacker again on campus, he was a student. I went to my departments chair and told her what happened and that I was going to drop out. She took me to the sheriff office and demanded action, it was only then that they did a report. For 3 semesters I suffered seeing my attacker on campus and the Sheriff's nor the college did anything. I graduated but suffer from PTSD, and survived 4 suicide attempts. After I graduated, the college dropped my assault statistic from the catalog.
@bluckgoes4405
@bluckgoes4405 8 жыл бұрын
I feel so sorry for what you had to go through. And thank you for sharing this with us. Just so you know, there are numerous people out there being supportive of you and we sincerely hope that things will get better for you.
@BrendenFP
@BrendenFP 6 жыл бұрын
He should seek psychological help. Catastrophizing isn't good for one's mental health.
@Michael-te7fj
@Michael-te7fj 6 жыл бұрын
Respectfully, I think you are crazy. I feel sorry for the guy who came onto him because he wanted sex, is not a mind reader, and had a dude follow him into a stall who would later destroy his life.
@Michael-te7fj
@Michael-te7fj 6 жыл бұрын
Brenden, I missed your comment earlier today. These crazy kids are doing exactly the opposite of what CBT theory works on. You are exactly right.
@tony4012
@tony4012 3 жыл бұрын
@@Michael-te7fj he literally told him he wasn’t interested dumbass
@peaceful_chaos14
@peaceful_chaos14 6 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry this was not a sexual assault, it was a regret for a sex act "in a bathroom" for which he was not forced. This is a disrespect to the actual sexual assault victims' stories.
@josewmeldondo
@josewmeldondo 4 жыл бұрын
Even if a person withdraws consent during the act and the other person ignores that, it's sexual assault, and therefore that person is a victim.
@thalmanm
@thalmanm 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your story, and for having the courage to go after your assaulter so that others may hopefully be saved. I hope you are able to heal from this experience.
@Michael-te7fj
@Michael-te7fj 4 жыл бұрын
Courage? This dude Andrew got off, regretted it, and destroyed the life of the guy he got off with.
@hindsightpov4218
@hindsightpov4218 3 жыл бұрын
@@Michael-te7fj You’re blaming the victim and standing up for the assailant. This assailant did the same thing to others. He’s a sexual predator.
@lennardusyoutube8505
@lennardusyoutube8505 3 жыл бұрын
@@Michael-te7fj and there you are again
@Michael-te7fj
@Michael-te7fj 3 жыл бұрын
@@lennardusyoutube8505 Can we start with admitting that Andrew would never be fit for the military! Men that freeze up when asked to go into a stall are not men that could fight a hostile enemy. If we extrapolate from there, we can see Andrew should not be in an adult envir.
@Michael-te7fj
@Michael-te7fj 3 жыл бұрын
@@lennardusyoutube8505 cont. If your goal is to have a generation of weak men that cannot speak up for the dignity of their own body when asked to go into a stall, you are pro-infantilizing adults. We must, imo, make sure young adults are fit for adult situations. You are doing Andrew no favors in that indulging his histrionics is not good.
@nanasue234
@nanasue234 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your story...you are so brave....I'm sorry that happened to you. ❤💜💚
@Michael-te7fj
@Michael-te7fj 3 жыл бұрын
Brave, this guy is a histrionic weakling that destroyed another man's life after having sex in bathroom stall.
@bingchilling1782
@bingchilling1782 3 жыл бұрын
@@Michael-te7fj It's honestly sad that people like you actually exist in this shit of a world. Your ignorance has brought you to the point where you can't understand what some people are going through. If you have nothing good to say then you might as well shut the f*ck up. Edit: Also I'm not being the sick/rude guy here, instead you're the sick, foolish, stupid, ignorant human being that doesn't understand what people are going through on a daily basis.
@camykircher141
@camykircher141 Жыл бұрын
I was sexually assaulted by my dad i was 8 years old even today I still struggle I have trust issues that's probably why I never got married the pain never goes away but it does get better I've been going to therapy for 6 years and it has helped me out so much so my prayers are with anybody that had to go to this horrible experience but please don't let it hold you back in life get some help don't let that person ruin your life you can make it I did God bless everyone out there that ever got hurt my prayers are with you God bless you all
@Michael-te7fj
@Michael-te7fj 9 ай бұрын
For God's sake, you were a helpless child. This Andrew was an adult and he followed the other dude into a bathroom stall. He deserves no mercy and our deep condemnation for calling what happened sexual assault.
@singingswiss
@singingswiss 2 жыл бұрын
So courageous to talk, I am sorry for Andrew, stuff like that should never happen!! Shame on the people who do these things and healing to the victims is all I can with for.
@Michael-te7fj
@Michael-te7fj 2 жыл бұрын
Are you kidding? Andrew had sex with another dude in a public bathroom. Both students should have been reprimanded. Andrew should not be supported in his narcissism imo. A man that cannot say no when another man wants to have sex is not a man. Any male can and should be taught this as a child. No man that lives in a dorm should be there if he doesn't know how to say no. Respectfully, I think what you are saying is terrible and will scare the wrong people. The guy, if we are to believe Andrew, came onto him in the middle of the night and Andrew was tired and said no. Andrew changed his mind and walked into a bathroom stall with the guy and in Andrew's own words, it was the fifth time he DID SOMETHING with a guy. Let him grow up and take responsibility for his own will and his own body. What was the other guy supposed to be a mind reader. From Andrew's story, the other guy asked him to go into the stall with him and he did. If Andrew is asked to jump off a bridge, is he not supposed to know how to not jump. Come on, Andrew is clearly narcissistic and playing the victim card and he's not even bothering to tell a convincing story.
@austinballard6815
@austinballard6815 2 жыл бұрын
@@Michael-te7fj one thing is for sure...Andrew is a bigger man than you'll ever be. He shows his face and is honest. You do neither. You're a creep, a predatory creep.
@Earth098
@Earth098 3 жыл бұрын
This guy is a strong and courageous man, because it must be difficult to speak out
@Michael-te7fj
@Michael-te7fj 2 жыл бұрын
He is a man in age but a child in mentality. He got off in a bathroom stall with another guy and ruined the guys life later. Both young men should have been reprimanded for having sex in the school's public bathroom. I would not want to use a bathroom wherein people are having sex in a stall. The school took an action under Title Nine to protect themselves from lunatics like Andrew. Older people know this is insane. You should to. There is no there-there with this story.
@tracedial6216
@tracedial6216 4 ай бұрын
Thanks, strong,n courageous wow thanks, not sure if I fit that mold but thanks. The rape was a piece of a huge section of my life that if I did not talk about it I was going to go insane, not kidding. I had finally found the love that I never thought would come, well he found me. Orlando was my absolute, complete, my all. He was a captain in the AirForce. I was in the hospital for a pretty bad car accident, which led to a situation even worse when was given medication I was allergic. This lead to both lungs collapsing, liver doubling, eye lids attaching to the eye ball, spinal collumn shifting. After a surgery where I was not given any pain meds & was completely awake during the surgery. I saw the scalpel slice my cornea then the doctor used tweezers to pull the cut cornea off my eye, did the same to the other then left. I was put back in a room where I remember looking down seeing myself with tubes going in & coming out everywhere. As I leaned back it was like a window that I was looking down at myself. Then everything was so bright, blinding but it did not blind my eyes. I could feel the warmth welcoming with this great joy. Then a man's voice said it was not my time & in a flash I was back. 6 weeks I was in that hospital fighting to be released. Later I found out that that mixup was never checked to see in my medical records because it does say about my allergies. That I had a less than 10% chance to LIVE. That the doctor after finding about my allergies put me back on the medication after he had known what it had done. After forcing the doctor my release I went home hoping to see Orlando had returned from fighting at war but he was no where. So I called this government agency to locate troops during active duty. It takes about a month, so I waited & still nothing. So after those very long waiting period I called him. Such a great kind man explained that Orlando had died. I kept hearing this screaming coming somewhere, but I was home alone, & in a flash I realized that painful scream was coming deep within me. There is so much more that I went thru. Years & years of depression that kept getting worse. So hard OMG no idea how bad all it was all happening at the same time. It is getting late, or rather early here. Maybe we can talk again.. Trace
@Hopeandpeaceinjesus
@Hopeandpeaceinjesus 3 жыл бұрын
My brother survivors finally getting to be part of our collective voice. Speak, you’re valid and deserve to be heard. You did NOTHING wrong, it was and is all on them- NOT YOU.
@transgoddess31
@transgoddess31 6 жыл бұрын
So he never said no, or made a sign that said no... Meh this dont sound like rape.
@benawesomebw1197
@benawesomebw1197 6 жыл бұрын
More like molestation.
@devinngeorge
@devinngeorge 6 жыл бұрын
Benawesome BW not even
@transgoddess31
@transgoddess31 6 жыл бұрын
Sadie Lemarr i disagree. Unless he was drunk. Which he wasnt because he recanted the whole scene. And a man tries to go into the bathroom and I FOLLOW HIM. THATS not rape. As a victim of rape....this belittles the real rape survivors
@transgoddess31
@transgoddess31 6 жыл бұрын
Sadie Lemarr rape and an inappropriate touch because of not saying anything is two different things. Gays are very sexual. I really dont think it was like im gonna take it. Im gonna violate him. "He mention me into the third bathroom stall". He took him following him into the stall as oh ok he wants it.
@blep4667
@blep4667 5 жыл бұрын
Well he didn't say yes either.
@juliethalman7702
@juliethalman7702 4 жыл бұрын
I can't believe the negative comments on here and that people are still so uneducated when it comes to understanding sexual assault. This is exactly why so many men that are victims of sexual abuse remain silent and suffer terribly, and why it is so easy for the perpetrators to get away with it. And by the way it is very common for a victim to have forced physical arousal by an abuser which is why it is so emotionally damaging. Some victims fight back, some flee and some freeze. All are common reactions. The abusers know how to take advantage of their victims psychologically. Please quit being such hateful people, educate yourselves and learn some compassion.
@SurvivorRevive
@SurvivorRevive 3 жыл бұрын
THIS! All of this. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@MandM-tb3lv
@MandM-tb3lv 3 жыл бұрын
With all due respect, you have no idea what goes on in gay male culture. If a man willingly accepts an invitation into a stall, it sure isn't to discuss the upcoming football game.
@Michael-te7fj
@Michael-te7fj 3 жыл бұрын
No Julie, you educate yourself and stop following feminist talking points. Freezing up is exceptionally rare and doesn't apply to young men following other young men into bathroom stalls. ...and it is you that should stop being hateful assuming women (or men) don't lie.
@cloroxistoxic2077
@cloroxistoxic2077 2 жыл бұрын
Bull
@Michael-te7fj
@Michael-te7fj 2 жыл бұрын
It is not hateful to disagree with your premises. Freezing is somewhere between rare and nonexistent. Stop reading feminist nonsense which today has no peer reviewed studies to prove what it claims. Women fought hard for the rights to have sexual agency, not to be the wallflowers that can't speak for themselves that you seem to endorse. You education yourself and you stop being hateful because throwing out nonsense can cause people to be misinformed. Sexual assault is a horrible crime; not everything is sexual assault including walking into a bathroom stall. If one is stupid enough to do so, then they should reflect on it and grow from it and look inward into what the hell is wrong with them. Stop protecting a grown man that wants to act like a child and live in an adult world.
@diegovillalobos5364
@diegovillalobos5364 Жыл бұрын
I wish I knew more as a kid....I was sexually assaulted by my brother, my cousin, my town's priest and I had to believe all that was normal so I could survive. Believe it or not all those memories stayed with me my whole life, I am a marked person
@tommythompson4127
@tommythompson4127 Жыл бұрын
So happy you spoke out, continued success 💕
@user-cg1qq2er8x
@user-cg1qq2er8x Жыл бұрын
Why are you happy that this Creep that followed another dude into a Public bathroom stall and had sex spoke out and blamed his partner.
@MrLadyGaGaLovr
@MrLadyGaGaLovr 4 жыл бұрын
I just want to hug him! I am a survivor as well!
@user-cg1qq2er8x
@user-cg1qq2er8x Жыл бұрын
Hug him? Why? This guy got laid in a bathroom stall after of his own free will having walked in there. These two with their homosexual copulation or whatever they were doing would expose other students to witnessing or hearing a sex act or at the very least see four legs in a stall when they walked into the bathroom. It's grotesque, albeit not the end of the world. Both these dudes should have received a warning from the school to stay out of sexual relations in the school's public areas.
@patriciacaldwell6317
@patriciacaldwell6317 5 жыл бұрын
The guy motioned him into the cubicle ? So did he walk in by himself I didn't hear him say he was pushed in ? This doesn't sound right I wouldn't explain a sexual assault as doing things
@RamKumar-yi6wn
@RamKumar-yi6wn 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah like all the women coming out in the MeToo movement were "pushed in". Drop your filthy double standards.
@Jinxyoutoheaven
@Jinxyoutoheaven 4 жыл бұрын
That is pretty much a very weak and vulnerable area for a guy. So if someone grabs us there we are pretty much at their mercy. The pain can be intense easily inflicted. So he was sorta but not really held at gun point and was motioned to the stall. Plus the dude is in obvious fear. When fear has a grip on someone if the don’t run then they feel powerless.
@Straumnes
@Straumnes 4 жыл бұрын
@@RamKumar-yi6wn men are stronger than women though, they can fight back. There's no excuse for what happened to him
@RamKumar-yi6wn
@RamKumar-yi6wn 4 жыл бұрын
@@Straumnes Rape is not about imposing one's physical power on another but power play,there's a difference between the first being physical and the second psychological. You think not even a single young female Hollywood star coming out in MeToo was "physically" stronger than a washed up wrinkled geezer like Weinstein they are accusing ? Rape is not about physical strength always. If you think he cannot be a victim because it's a HE,then, putting it kindly, you're rather petty and ignorant.
@nicolesaylor4027
@nicolesaylor4027 4 жыл бұрын
This is his story to tell, not yours!
@psychedelicrainbows1689
@psychedelicrainbows1689 4 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad u shared your story. I used to avoid my abusers on the corridors in school and I could never talk about it cuz anyone who do tell gets blamed more than comforted. Especially as a guy cuz somehow I'm not supposed to defend myself even if the abuser is twice as strong and your physically weaker. But even in silence it's so great to know your not alone and this isn't just me or my fault somehow which I know it isn't. So thank you
@rachelbrown3766
@rachelbrown3766 3 жыл бұрын
Psalm 34:18 *"The LORD is near to those who have a broken heart, And saves such as have a contrite spirit."* Matthew 11:27 *"Jesus said, “Come to me, all of you who are weary and carry heavy burdens, and I will give you rest."* John 6:37 Jesus says *"Everyone the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will NEVER drive away."* 🌱🙏🏽🤍
@vrodguysweden
@vrodguysweden 5 жыл бұрын
You opend the door, you said nothing, you did nothing. Whatever happend to just say NO?
@Iconickhalif
@Iconickhalif 5 жыл бұрын
Stfu
@littledragon4451
@littledragon4451 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think this was a case of sexual assault
@Tonytrekdax
@Tonytrekdax 4 жыл бұрын
... Did you read the ending disclaimer at the end of the video. The same guy that assaulted him had assaulted two other people. He had a history of that behavior. If this guy hadn’t stepped forward and expose him he would have continued to assault other people in that school.
@edwarmakhoul3345
@edwarmakhoul3345 7 жыл бұрын
I have this story as well as I'm also a victim of Sexual assault like him at Einstein Dorms the Tel Aviv University Dorms in 2008 - 2009 as I seek a Psychiatric medicine and went to Psychological help from Tel Aviv University for 3 years - this Maniac was Sohel Awad from Tamrah Room E 44-43
@mr-yy8sd
@mr-yy8sd 4 жыл бұрын
Hey I was molested also you live in israel?
@rachelbrown3766
@rachelbrown3766 3 жыл бұрын
Psalm 34:18 *"The LORD is near to those who have a broken heart, And saves such as have a contrite spirit."* Matthew 11:27 *"Jesus said, “Come to me, all of you who are weary and carry heavy burdens, and I will give you rest."* John 6:37 Jesus says *"Everyone the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will NEVER drive away."* 🌱🙏🏽🤍
@austinballard6815
@austinballard6815 2 жыл бұрын
I feel so much for Andrew. I was not much older than him when an assault happened to me in Cambridge (Mass.) many years ago. All too often police, other relevant authorities do little, if anything.
@arianalushtaku4329
@arianalushtaku4329 2 жыл бұрын
Keep your head up and God bless you I hope you're Okay ❤
@austinballard6815
@austinballard6815 2 жыл бұрын
@@arianalushtaku4329 thank you; your thoughts are very much appreciated!
@Michael-te7fj
@Michael-te7fj 2 жыл бұрын
What happened to him? Did you willingly walk into a bathroom stall when a freshman at college? I am sorry for what happened to you but what Andrew did was imo done with consent.
@austinballard6815
@austinballard6815 2 жыл бұрын
@@Michael-te7fj you know, it migtht seem that way but we do not know the exact circumstances entirely...but there is such a thing as, recognized legally, as duress or coercion that play into consent...a tricky issue legally but I does sound more like he, Andrew "went along" out of fear...that's coercion and not true consent, is it?
@Michael-te7fj
@Michael-te7fj 2 жыл бұрын
@@austinballard6815 Yes, it sounds like consent. Although it sounds cold to say that consent can include fear, it has to in instances like these or things will become even more chaotic. If we are to use fear as a reason to why Andrew could claim a lack of consent, we get into having the other student responsible for reading Andrew's mind. Reading minds in sexual situations is the worst of all worlds. Words as in "no," which doesn't preclude one asking a second time, and the need to say "no" a second time are a far better way to get points across than reading minds. Additionally, making consent simple is also best. No means no is just fine. Sometimes a no may switch to a yes, and that's a fact. At some point, for example, a grown man not walking into a bathroom stall with another man must be expected if he first says no, in other words, nothing says to me one has changed their mind much more than walking into a bathroom stall. We must not give into insanity for the sake of histrionics like Andrew, in order that all of the other sane students can if they are so inclined, change their minds in such situations which they often do. Human seduction is part of sex. Often one party has to entice or woo another one into the mood. Because Andrew is a hysteric and destroyed another human being's life as a result, the rest of humanity need not protect him. He was not fit to be an adult situation yet most other adults are. We don't protect those that drive just because they are of age if they can't see the road and demand to drive. The rest of us want to drive and incur the risk that being behind the wheel is. That said, if a blind man insists he has the right to drive and he insists we should support him when he causes a car crash and in addition, he wants to be paid damages, we should not indulge this madness. We should Not support this type of childish inability to make reasonable decisions. We could stop all driving because a blind man "should have the right to drive," but we don't, at least not yet. We can and sadly have extended sexual assault to mean a young adult man that cannot say no to walking into a bathroom stall? No, I say, let's make sure our adult men act like adults. Andrew was an adult and acting like a disturbed narcissist debasing the horrors that actual victims endure.
@bicuriousdirtbikeboi2594
@bicuriousdirtbikeboi2594 Жыл бұрын
I can't even imagine how horrible that would feel to have to go to a conference about assault right after what happened to me
@user-cg1qq2er8x
@user-cg1qq2er8x Жыл бұрын
After what happened to him? He followd another dude into a bathroom stall and got off. He called it sex. So probably you wouldn't mind walking into the stal to use it after these two came all over the floor? The school should have given them both warnings about using the public bathroom for sex. What the hell is wrong with you for feeling sorry for this creep?
@steemdup
@steemdup Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad the university didn't try to hide behind "your word against his word" crap, and expelled this creep. So sorry this happened to you - you handled it with bravery and a lot of strength.
@anthonycoca2202
@anthonycoca2202 6 жыл бұрын
There’s something about this story that doesn’t feel right to me. I’ve experienced sexual abuse as a child and was raped as a young adult. I volunteer my time in counseling/mentoring sexually exploited teens and rape survivors. I’ve heard the stories told by the victims themselves and yet somehow, I don’t feel as if this guy was actually raped or if he’s just trying to turn what he ultimately felt was an unsavory encounter into a story of rape. In telling it, he’s almost dead pan and the descriptions come across as studied. As if he read about how one might react after a sexual assault. Particularly when he talks about the auditorium filled with 5000 other students and how he felt “alone”and spoke of “tunnel vision” and his “throat clenching”. It didn’t come off as genuine, but instead rather cliché. When he talks about only having had five previous encounters with guys and then mentions with an air of disgust that this incident took place in a bathroom, you can almost see a very slight smirk cross his face when he begins telling it and then again at the very end. I watched a couple times just to see if I was merely projecting, but there’s no emotion in his eyes. No feeling conveyed, nor projected. There’s almost a disconnect to the recanting of the story itself as if told by someone who didn’t actually experience it. It seems strange that he seemed more mortified by where it happened rather then it happening at all. In all my experiences I’ve never heard someone speak in the way of location as a matter of importance. I also question his saying that “it all ended” when he read the letter in the Dean’s office. Trauma Isn’t something that suddenly disappears overnight. Over time you learn ways to deal with it and move beyond it, but it’s always there and forever will remain a part of you. It doesn’t just suddenly end. I know of people who have tried to turn sexual encounters into stories of sexual assault and I know of people who have flat out lied. I’m not saying that this guy is completely falsifying the incident, I’m just finding it hard to believe that he’s been entirely truthful.
@billcordell9797
@billcordell9797 6 жыл бұрын
Anthony Coca it seems rehearsed, but that could come from him having to tell the story so many times that he’s just speaking lines from a script.
@AnaG0326
@AnaG0326 4 жыл бұрын
Don’t base his story off of other stories you have heard. Everyone heals differently. Everyone tells their story crying, angry, or just plain out calm and “normal”.
@MandM-tb3lv
@MandM-tb3lv 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. Something seems off here.
@georgeyeck-ozark8714
@georgeyeck-ozark8714 3 жыл бұрын
I tend to agree that something in this story is off....being touched repeatedly against your will is technically "assault", however, saying he "motioned me into one of the stalls"??? after being groped?.....unless physically "dragged" leave.
@anthonycoca2202
@anthonycoca2202 3 жыл бұрын
George Yeck-Ozark Exactly. He had two choices. Either walk in one direction towards the exit, or the other direction, towards the stalls. Freely. Perhaps maybe with some slight reservation, but nonetheless willingly. The other guy wasn’t behind him shoving him in. Apparently he was already in the stall and non-threateningly motioned him over. He was bothered that it happened in a public bathroom, but gives absolutely no indication of any of it being forced.
@kakent1
@kakent1 4 жыл бұрын
I’m so sorry 😢
@mrlover4310
@mrlover4310 6 жыл бұрын
He never said No He never pushed him a side And he walked in to the cubicle and wanted it and then latter he did not. Makes no sense.
@matthowland1770
@matthowland1770 6 жыл бұрын
onkar phall he never wanted he went into shock the guy took him into the stall listen to the guys story
@mrlover4310
@mrlover4310 6 жыл бұрын
Matt Howland went into shock really that sounds like if I did not like it latter on then I all ways can say "I went into shock" standing in court of law. Think about it?
@mrlover4310
@mrlover4310 6 жыл бұрын
RunnerEye that's exactly what happened no one forced him in there. Maybe the dick wasn't big enough so now he's screaming rape. Imagine that you sleep with a woman or a man it's all consensual the next day she screams or he screams rape all because she/ he regrets it! what a joke.
@matthowland1770
@matthowland1770 6 жыл бұрын
No he said directed he was drunk and he said he wasn't interested
@matthowland1770
@matthowland1770 6 жыл бұрын
It wasn't a case of buyers guilt he didn't consent he didn't want it he was violated rather it was miscommunication or a guy that just thought it was ok to force the issue and aggressively take what he wanted then say well he didn't fight back if this had been a girl they would have easily been called sexual assault
@happyglock3426
@happyglock3426 6 жыл бұрын
So you regret tricking in the bathroom drunk.......the ruin someone’s college career? Because they came on to you and you didn’t say no........special word for you.....
@Michael-te7fj
@Michael-te7fj 4 жыл бұрын
What this dude Andrew did is disgraceful and that the Huff Post gives him credibility is sad.
@pauladam8918
@pauladam8918 3 жыл бұрын
Happened to me too nobody knows how it destroys you inside I went from a happy go lucky loving human being until it happened it changed me forever it brings you to a really dark dark place and you never recover even 30 years later.
@Michael-te7fj
@Michael-te7fj 3 жыл бұрын
You want to tell me that he can't recover from Willingly walking into a bathroom stall and having sex? I don't know what was done to you, but if you were an adult college student and followed a guy into a stall, had sex, and 30 years later couldn't get over it, you are off your rocker. Sexual assault is a very serious thing. This was not that.
@sharksport01
@sharksport01 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to hear the other dudes side. Since this IS a huffpo piece, the entire story is probably fabricated.
@stephenjean-baptiste8757
@stephenjean-baptiste8757 6 жыл бұрын
How does this qualify as sexual assault?
@Michael-te7fj
@Michael-te7fj 4 жыл бұрын
It doesn't.
@CescoCDN
@CescoCDN Жыл бұрын
Just seeing this now. Andrew, wherever you are, hoping you are well and your soul at peace.
@josephrego2527
@josephrego2527 2 жыл бұрын
A sensitive and courageous individual. May you be showered with blessings.
@user-cg1qq2er8x
@user-cg1qq2er8x Жыл бұрын
No, a creep that must have regretted bad sex which he willingly walked into a bathroom stall to have. Yech.
@JKimrana369
@JKimrana369 4 жыл бұрын
His face expressions telling the pain he has gone through. N it's painful
@Michael-te7fj
@Michael-te7fj 3 жыл бұрын
One's experience of pain is subjective. It doesn't tell you what really transpired.
@JT-ok6re
@JT-ok6re 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry that you were assaulted! But you said something that triggered me. You said he motioned you to go into the stall. Why did you go and not out of the bathroom?
@MandM-tb3lv
@MandM-tb3lv 3 жыл бұрын
I wondered the same thing.
@hindsightpov4218
@hindsightpov4218 3 жыл бұрын
Not everyone has a fight or flight response. Some people surprise themselves by mentally and physically freeze up. Unless you’re in the exact same situation yourself, you really don’t know how you would react, even if you think you would automatically run.
@JT-ok6re
@JT-ok6re 3 жыл бұрын
@@hindsightpov4218 No! I know what I would do. In a court of law this would not hold up as rape. This would hold up as something else, sexual harassment maybe. In courtroom trail that statement alone would change everything.
@hindsightpov4218
@hindsightpov4218 3 жыл бұрын
@@JT-ok6re You think you know what you would do. But you were never sexually assaulted so you don’t know with absolute certainty. People who did freeze instead of doing fight or flight surprised themselves that they froze when they thought they would run if they found themselves in this situation. People don’t always respond the way they think they would. It’s called being human. We’re all imperfect. Not everything we do makes perfect sense, despite our best intentions. Grabbing a person’s genitals isn’t harassment. That’s assault. This assailant clearly didn’t like that Andrew rejected him and escalated the situation by making it about power by doing sexual acts onto Andrew that Andrew did not want. That’s rape.
@Michael-te7fj
@Michael-te7fj 3 жыл бұрын
@@hindsightpov4218 Feminist lies. He went in willingly. There was nothing to freeze up about. The guy did not have a knife to him. He followed the guy. Stop making excuses for Andrew. He is not mentally fit to be an adult situations.therefore he should not be there and stop getting other people expelled for awkward advances.
@debmontalvo3049
@debmontalvo3049 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for having the bravery to speak out, darling. I’m so glad you are healing and the perp was expelled. Best of Luck to you! ❤
@nicoleschrettl7985
@nicoleschrettl7985 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your story AND for taking some action. I hope it deters the guy from pulling that again
@katya.g524
@katya.g524 2 жыл бұрын
the fact that he continued in his education despite this. very strong.
@alfiyahatika6986
@alfiyahatika6986 4 жыл бұрын
We are up against a system that’s not designed to help us. I wanna cry.
@SurvivorRevive
@SurvivorRevive 3 жыл бұрын
THIS. 👏🏼 The systems were definitely built to protect predators and definitely not to help victims get some justice. There are people out there who are working diligently to try to change this. I promise...💚
@pythios8982
@pythios8982 3 жыл бұрын
Wow what a brave person 🤧 I’m so glad that he was able to get the help that he needed.
@Michael-te7fj
@Michael-te7fj 3 жыл бұрын
Brave, he destroyed the other guy's life because the other dude made a successful pass. Andrew is a terrible person for doing this to that guy. He followed him and didn't say no after following him.
@assassindancer914
@assassindancer914 Жыл бұрын
​@@Michael-te7fjlol troll
@quartzalicious1012
@quartzalicious1012 3 жыл бұрын
Most young people are vulnerable especially if your shy...
@Phanonyoutube
@Phanonyoutube 2 жыл бұрын
That’s so sad. Horrible way to start a new school year.
@aydinberk69
@aydinberk69 Жыл бұрын
I felt so small. I've couldn't fight back and just frozen. After the assault I've thought maybe I been wanted to be disrespected like that since I didn't fight back as I should have been. I know it sounds somehow stupid but that's how I felt. It's been only 3 days from that trauma and I still struggle to get that thing out of my mind. Everytime I look to my feet I feel the most nauseation a human can possible feel. Everytime I change my sock or shoe, the feeling of disgust acquires every part of me. I've stared to hate myself. Especially the parts where he used my body as a fleshlight. At first I've thought I could fight back -mentally- but I've failed miserable. I wanna ask someone who experienced similar hardship; Will my self respect ever fully recover? Will I ever be the same?
@sharksport01
@sharksport01 Жыл бұрын
Are you better now?
@PeterPan-qb3tb
@PeterPan-qb3tb 6 жыл бұрын
a grown men had sex then changed his mind and claimed its rape if you didn't protest or say no then its consensual
@Michael-te7fj
@Michael-te7fj 4 жыл бұрын
Not only did he not say no, by his own admission the other dude motioned him to the bathroom stall and he complied.
@joed1162
@joed1162 6 жыл бұрын
It is simple...if you do not consent then it is assault.
@Michael-te7fj
@Michael-te7fj 4 жыл бұрын
Oh please. If you're a grown man, heterosexual or homosexual, and another man motions to you to go into a stall or for that matter to jump off a bridge, if you do, your a moron and should not be in an adult environment. The school should have thrown Andrew out for daring to make this complaint and the grounds to expel Andrew could have been for getting off in a bathroom and potentially exposing other students to having to hear or see it.
@hindsightpov4218
@hindsightpov4218 3 жыл бұрын
@@Michael-te7fj “Oh please” yourself. You are being so judgmental and ignorant. Some people mentally and physically freeze when sexual assault is happening. Not everyone has a fight or flight response and you don’t know if you’ll freeze or flight until you’re in that situation yourself. People who did freeze surprised themselves that they didn’t run when they thought their instincts would tell them to do that. When people freeze, their brain goes into autopilot and they space out as they follow the orders of the assailant out of fear. You’re very keen on blaming and punishing the victim, saying he should have been the one expelled from the university and not the assailant. Your comment also comes across as homophobic with the disgust you expressed about any sexual activity happening in the men’s restroom. It’s apparent where your judgement is coming from.
@hindsightpov4218
@hindsightpov4218 3 жыл бұрын
@@Michael-te7fj I looked into you and I see now why you are particularly angry about this case. I am sorry for what happened to you. I really am. But what happened to you does not mean that Andrew was making false accusations. Do false accusations happen? Yes, tragically they do. But they are rare. Most accusations of rape are true and most rapes are never reported. Not all rapes happen the same way. Different people react differently. If you did not want it, it is rape. Being rejected does not excuse escalating the situation by grabbing the person’s genitals and doing sexual acts onto this person who already said no. It doesn’t matter after Andrew mentally froze when his genitals were grabbed that in his shocked state that he complied when the assailant motioned him into the stall. Andrew already said no. The assailant knew that. He didn’t care and then physically assaulted him. The assailant is guilty.
@Michael-te7fj
@Michael-te7fj 3 жыл бұрын
@@hindsightpov4218 When blacks and other minorities express opinions based on their experience, we do not discount their experience. The same should be permitted to the wrongly accused. That said, one's experience adds insight but can be challenged so you can challenge mine or anyone else's.. I would always thought Andrew is in the wrong. This is not complicated in my mind. He was not raped. He went into the stall and did not say no. He should not be an adult situation (a dorm) with such lacking maturity. Should I agree with your notion that he froze, which I don't buy, but should that be true, what kind of monster is Andrew to destroy the other person's life. The other person had reason to think Andrew was within the range of normal which would be someone that doesn't indicate "yes" when they mean "no." Where you are in error, is the notion that we must cater to the most disturbed people among us. We cannot, utopia is not a place. We cannot and must not cater to the hysterics among us. We can instead suggest that they get treatment and stay clear from adult situations they cannot manage.
@Michael-te7fj
@Michael-te7fj 2 жыл бұрын
Are you f==king kidding? If you walk into a bathroom stall in a dorm with another dude, have sex, you have consented. My God, the feminist talking points have got you hooked. You wrote this three years ago. I hope you have grown.
@evanflin6511
@evanflin6511 6 жыл бұрын
It didn't sound like he was forced
@tylerketchum3315
@tylerketchum3315 5 жыл бұрын
So what are you saying; it was invited? You're as big of a shitbag as the guy that assaulted him.
@UTRipleyxoxo
@UTRipleyxoxo 5 жыл бұрын
Moron
@happyhiker6937
@happyhiker6937 5 жыл бұрын
He did not describe how the assailant forced the assault and he does not have to. He told the guy no!! Anything beyond that is assault! How stupid of you.
@Brunette84
@Brunette84 4 жыл бұрын
You can say no afterwards too.
@mesa4592
@mesa4592 6 жыл бұрын
You can't rape the willing.
@Lylo-mj8ek
@Lylo-mj8ek 2 жыл бұрын
Good for you Andrew It was so nice to see your smile towards the end you are very beautiful and very brave. May all your days be blessed. Peace.
@Asterion67
@Asterion67 4 жыл бұрын
God bless you. Your soul is pure. I embrace you.
@TWalsh-ji7jh
@TWalsh-ji7jh 4 жыл бұрын
I find it strange that he was “motioned” to the stall, isn’t that where you say no? He was not dragged into it or forced to do anything by his own description. There are sexual assaults out there and I find it difficult to believe the huff post could only find this tepid story.
@aa-of3lp
@aa-of3lp 4 жыл бұрын
Your body shuts down too and you just freeze not every thing is explained as easily as black or white
@TWalsh-ji7jh
@TWalsh-ji7jh 4 жыл бұрын
a a I could see that if a weapon was involved but the guy just motioned to the stall. Instead of walking to the stall why did he not walk out the door?! He was under no obligation or duress to go to the stall. It’s all very strange.
@hindsightpov4218
@hindsightpov4218 3 жыл бұрын
@@TWalsh-ji7jh The assailant was rejected by Andrew. His response was to grab Andrew’s genitals which made Andrew go into shock and his mind froze. When you’re in that shocked state, your mind goes into autopilot and he complied when motioned into the stall when he otherwise would not have if he wasn’t in that shocked state. Not everyone has a fight or flight response. Some people physically and mentally freeze when they really do want to run. People’s minds and bodies don’t always react the way they want when in a threatening situation.
@fdavis1841
@fdavis1841 7 ай бұрын
So sorry you went through this. God bless you.
@footslave4asian
@footslave4asian Жыл бұрын
You can tell by the way he acts, if it wasn't "five in the morning," he might have been interested.
@haej8279
@haej8279 4 жыл бұрын
I hope he’s feeling better now
@Michael-te7fj
@Michael-te7fj 4 жыл бұрын
I don't hope he's feeling better. I hope Andrew is feeling remorse for having sex in a bathroom willingly and then destroying the other guy's life because he felt dirty afterward. ...and by the way, if I were the third student and walked into the bathroom and saw or heard these two going at it, I could have gone to the school authorities and had them both thrown the hell out for engaging in sexual behavior in a public place for students that made me uncomfortable. Because I am not a hysteric like this dude Andrew, if I walked in on two dudes engaged in sexual behavior forbidden by the rules of the college, I would politely walk out or pretend not to notice so I wouldn't embarrass the couple.
@hindsightpov4218
@hindsightpov4218 3 жыл бұрын
@@Michael-te7fj Your insistence to being apathetic speaks volumes to the kind of person you are.
@theodorewolf4351
@theodorewolf4351 5 жыл бұрын
if he motioned you into the center stall & you went ... you weren't forced than you sort of went along with it , told him it was OK, if you were not in the stall it would not have happened, I am so sorry but this sounds like every gay bathroom cruse ever. Now if you said no & he still forced or dragged you into the stall, or even if he befriended you then drugged you or took advantage of you while you were passed out that would be assault. I say this from a place of trying to understand, I myself was a sexually assaulted. This just comes off like regret for doing something in a bathroom with a random guy. I am sorry this happened to you but regret is different.
@netfun8087
@netfun8087 Жыл бұрын
My comment may be unpopular, and I don’t mean it as an attack on anyone except perhaps Andrew’s counselors. And I recognize there may be painful, personal details Andrew is omitting out of privacy, and those details (if I knew them) might change my opinion. On the basis of the information presented this is how I feel: I don’t think the actions he describes amount to an assault. The other student flirted with him, touched Andrew’s crotch over his clothes, said “nobody has to know” and motioned him into a bathroom stall, and Andrew followed. I’m missing any element of force, coercion, or intimidation. Andrew specifically said the other student “motioned” him into a stall-that means he was free to ignore the other student and walk away. Based on the actions described I feel bad for Andrew having to think he is a victim of anything, and it looks to me like his counselors failed him in a major way. They should’ve asked him to explore his feelings that motivated Andrew to follow that student into the stall, and make him feel ok about his sexual curiosity and exploration. It sounds like they did the opposite, and made him believe he was a victim of something. So his counselors really created a victim, and ultimately got another student expelled over this encounter. I’m generally a very sensitive person who would always stand up for a victim, it’s hard for me to even make this comment. I feel like this video should not have been made, or if there are other painful details (that should remain private) but really make the assault more clear, then the video should have shared those details but protected Andrew’s identity. As it currently stands, this video feels irresponsible to me, it lowers the bar of what sexual assault means.
@alesh2275
@alesh2275 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree.
@sirenwes7538
@sirenwes7538 10 ай бұрын
holy crap, I hope he's having a consensually good day.
@bonkerss2073
@bonkerss2073 Жыл бұрын
I politely refused a man who was following me that I was not interested. I was 18 at the time and was taking some evening classes. I decided to come to class early one evening and the teacher was not in class. So I was alone, waiting for my teacher when this same man showed up with a blade and got really close to me and said “I will kill you…don’t think you’re better than me” he grabbed my shoulder as to pull me close to him but thankfully he stop and left when when we heard the teacher approaching. I was scare that I couldn’t concentrate. This was in 1994 before cellphones so I couldn’t just call someone or Uber. I had to walk to the metro by myself (I didn’t tell anyone what had happened) scared but also vigilant in case he popped up. Needless to say I did not return the next day and transferred to a different school. What’s crazy is that I have never told anyone…this is the first time I’m “saying” it.
@Michael-te7fj
@Michael-te7fj 9 ай бұрын
...but Andrew followed the other dude in the bathroom Stall and had sex. Entirely different than what you went through.
@Humanbeing_editx
@Humanbeing_editx 2 жыл бұрын
I also suffered sexual assult when I was 5-6 yrs old , now I am 16 , I can't hug anyone , and when someone hugs me I can't hug him or her back the way they does ,I am scared to go places where more men comes it's like it's destroyed my life.
@user-cg1qq2er8x
@user-cg1qq2er8x Жыл бұрын
Andrew was a f--king adult and followed a guy into a bathroom stall. Stop identifying with him. You were a child and what you went through was therefore without consent and horrific whereas Andrew got off in a PUBLIC bathroom and is a creep for blaming the other dude.
@nairb2
@nairb2 6 жыл бұрын
I feel bad for him, but the key phrase here was "he motioned me into the third stall"
@julieta5376
@julieta5376 6 жыл бұрын
DoublexKeyz that is the most stupid thing I've heard. Would you say that to a "grown woman"? Man are assaulted too
@Michael-te7fj
@Michael-te7fj 6 жыл бұрын
Lila, women fought or the right to get raped in the early 1960s. They didn't want people like you keeping them safe. The man;s crotch was touched and he freaked out. He needs psychological help to empower himself. He is pathetic. He actually blames another guy for coming onto him. It's not the job of one who wants sex to be nice or read minds. The one who wants the sex need only understand the word No. The rest is your generation being puritanical sickos who are bored because you don't know what things like fighting a war are and you don't have any idea what oppression truly is as you parents have treated you like babies and did not let you grow up. This young man could have said No. He could have said F--k off. He could have run. He could have called out for someone to help. He could have taken out his fist. A man must learn to protect his body if he is going to freak out so easily. A man must learn to fight if he's going to be such a feckless human being. I would add to that, this young man is a heartless jerk for having the other guy expelled.
@sleepymylf2342
@sleepymylf2342 6 жыл бұрын
brian fidel he was afraid. When someone's afraid, they don't know what to do. It happens!
@Michael-te7fj
@Michael-te7fj 6 жыл бұрын
Tina: Give me a break. This freeze thing is made up nonsense. Perhaps one freezes when they are pinned down and feel their life is endanger. How are we going to send our young men to war if God forbid we are attacked? This young man is not fit to be away from home. It's not the guy who grabbed his crotch that is most problematic. It's Andrew. How do parents raise a boy who cannot say no once another man has grabbed toward his penis? This is as basic as tying one's shoelace. I don't think Andrew should be defended. I think he is right questioning his own masculinity as he did not act like a man--any kind of man. He acted like a child. I'm not saying guys should go around grabbing other guys crotches. That said, it's not the end of the world and resident assistant could have handled the entire matter. The grabber was probably drunk and probably Andrew not being able to say, "leave me alone" or "get the f out of here," was not clear. That said, once Andrew went into the stall with him, he became a willing partner. Andrew and the expelled young man were in a bathroom stall having sexual relations. Surely this is in the current handbook as improper sex. If another student had walked into the bathroom, that student would be innocent and perhaps feel humiliated. In normal times, none of this would be a big deal and the boys having sex in a bathroom stall would merely be met with shame as in the other students later saying this was not cool for the guys to be doing this in the bathroom. Given that these are not normal times, Andrew should have been thrown out of Brown for creating a hostile sexually intimidating atmosphere.
@Michael-te7fj
@Michael-te7fj 6 жыл бұрын
Rick, why do you even feel bad for him? I feel bad for the guy who was expelled. Perhaps he was a drinker and he was gay and many in their culture are sexually aggressive that way. It the times have called for a change in this way, then adjusting to this change rather than expulsion is called for. But forgetting about the accused, Andrew should not be coddled. If the other guy motioned Andrew to jump out the window would Andrew have done it?
@NonBinaryGayEmo2349
@NonBinaryGayEmo2349 2 ай бұрын
Undoubtedly; this story is undeniably tragic; on, a numerous amount of levels; which, leave me with an endless amount of empathy; for, you having to had, went; through, this concerning traumatic experiences. In specification; I, similarly had gone through, a period of being sexually harassed and assaulted, by my own father; specifically; when, I was five years old; and, I truthfully didn’t know any more better; than, I had known; within , this traumatic moment. So, for me; when; I had been assaulted; I, had a similar freeze response; to, the entire incident; which provided me with; an overwhelming amount of emotional turmoil; which, had taken me an long period of time to process; for my own realistic perceptive comprehension; of, the traumatic experience. All and All; thank you, for having the bravery; to, share; your sad story; and, I hope, in which; your healing, becomes most beneficial; within the context of your emotional processing; throughout your cognitive functioning. ✌️
@enchanted376
@enchanted376 2 жыл бұрын
Wait I thought he didn't know his name or anything about him, so when he reported how did he tell who did it? How did the school know who to punish??
@slimetime1169
@slimetime1169 6 жыл бұрын
When did he say no I don't want to do this?or please stop?or anything of that nature?
@princeothello4153
@princeothello4153 3 жыл бұрын
Or grab his stuff and exit the Restroom?
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