Lloyd, I have a 2014 Browning 725 Sporting, 32” barrel, adjustable stock. I bought it new. I’ve shot many guns over the years, and for the price this shotgun is outstanding. And mine is way better looking than the one your shooting. You get everything you need right in the box. I’ve shot everything from 3/4 oz-1-1/8 oz lead shot, speeds from 1145-1350 fps. Never had a hitch. I use it for Trap, Skeet and sporting clays. The guys at my club use to shoot just about everything but Browning, Ludic, Perazzi, Krieghoff, Beretta, Winchester, Remington’s, etc. After I started shooting again and showed off my new purchase, after awhile they all started buying the Browning’s. Even are top shooter that loves Beretta’s bought a Browning 725. VERY RELIABLE, EASY SHOOTING. Who gives you all those accessories, adjust-ability's in the box. Thanks for your reviews.
@dankruger2890 Жыл бұрын
Interesting, Brownings seem to smash clay quite nice. i have a 2000 Citori 30inch that really does great hitting them clay. Feel like i tend to break clays that might be a miss with another gun
@tajzikria53073 ай бұрын
725 Sporting is an outstanding gun. I even use it for hunting.
@colinmatthews36135 жыл бұрын
Just bought one Lloyd ,only been out once on Wednesday, cant wait for the weekend, beautiful gun and a pleasure to shoot
@lloydyp3 жыл бұрын
How are you getting on with it after a year?
@colinmatthews36133 жыл бұрын
@@lloydyp have now sold it and bought a perazzi ,,now thats the gun I always wanted Lloyd shoots like a dream
@lloydyp3 жыл бұрын
Lol I can empathize 👌
@avocado97634 жыл бұрын
Great assessment. Too heavy for me. Thanks Lloyd.
@Plainsimple673 жыл бұрын
LIOYD, YOUR CHANNEL HAS EXPANDED MY SHOTGUN COLLECTION IN AN INSANE WAY, I mainly buy all my guns used hardly used, I have the MX8 pigeon GRADE with a $4000.00 custom wood, in a high tech case with custom Briley chokes and an extra bunker barrel set. I went and found another used Krieghoff sporting excellent condition also Extrême chokes and everything both for $11k!! Both fit me great.😉👉💥🥏💨
@lloydyp3 жыл бұрын
I assume your wife has a contract out on me at this point?
@Plainsimple673 жыл бұрын
@@lloydyp IN MY CULTURE, WIVES DON'T HAVE MUCH TO SAY, I AM ARMENIAN!!😉 GOOD FRIENDS SUCH AS YOU ARE ALWAYS SAFE LIOYD!👍😂
@lloydyp3 жыл бұрын
@@Plainsimple67 😂
@priscott19634 жыл бұрын
great review Lloyd. I've been and bought the Browning cenergy 28 inch was a good starting gun, after a year i traded for the 725 sporter one witch was a harder gun to follow through fast clay's so went and got a Browning prostort 725 30 inch and my score went up like from 59 out of 100 to 88 out of a 100 so i did the right thing really. this video help me, so thanks for the reveiw.
@lloydyp4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback, glad you like the gun 😉
@michaelheffernan42832 жыл бұрын
Hi Lloyd, great honest review 👍🏻
@lloydyp2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@spenman406 жыл бұрын
Yes that seems to be the magical weight. I feel that whatever brand of gun I shoot and am using regular loads for clay shooting. I cross over to the 8 lb. from a lighter 7 lb gun it handles so much different. Good on you for pointing that out.
@lloydyp3 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@Fendermanpaul2 жыл бұрын
"Oh another Browning " ? Puzzled by this statement. No doubting their quality, as for the stock, years ago you took it to a gunsmith to get it altered. I've used many different makes and types and never had preconceptions, I noticed that probably 70% of the guns are now Browning at the shoots I attend. They're certainly drawing ahead of their competition on quality and price.
@lloydyp2 жыл бұрын
You would need to watch the videos in order to get the context.
@Richard1966ize8 күн бұрын
Hello, Lloyd just watched your review of the Browning 725 Prosport, I currently have a Blaser F16 Sporter and was wondering how you see them compare? Thankyou
@lloydyp7 күн бұрын
Completely different guns, The f16 is a light, fast field gun in essence. The ProSport is a great big meaty, heavy sporter for bashing clays.
@Richard1966ize7 күн бұрын
@@lloydyp thanks for the reply, I’ve arranged a trial of the 725 Sporter S3 (only one they have at my local shooting grounds) for next week see if the heavier gun gives me a bit better stability.
@jpuignau5 жыл бұрын
Well I just bought a 725 Trap Golden Clays and I love it. However, I am shocked that it does not come with a case!!! only a carton box! You would think a shotgun in that price range will come with a nice case!!
@lloydyp3 жыл бұрын
what country?
@jpuignau3 жыл бұрын
@@lloydyp USA. Btw I have shot over 10k rounds since I bought and have won some tournaments with it and I am now at the 24.5 yard in handicap. Just want to tell you I really enjoy your videos!
@lloydyp3 жыл бұрын
@@jpuignau thank you sir 😀
@cfcbeanz11223 жыл бұрын
Where are you between this & an invictus? Both adjustable, 8 chokes etc. The Prosport has the balancing system but the invictus does look absolutely solid.
@lloydyp3 жыл бұрын
The invictus is in a different price bracket but I think it shows in terms of the quality of the gun. The prosport is great value, but it's not built like an invictus.
@EmilMouritsen4 жыл бұрын
Hi Lloyd, Loved your review! I pick this up and it suited me perfect. How would you choose if it was between the pro sport or Zoli Kronos?
@lloydyp4 жыл бұрын
Sorry Emil, I don't know as I have never tested a Kronos.
@EmilMouritsen4 жыл бұрын
Lloyd Pattison No problem. Thanks for coming back to me Looking forward to the next review
@cohland6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, another very informative review, I'm glad to see that you liked this one. Having some experience with the 725 Sporting in a High Rib Adjustable model, I'm deciding between the ProSport and the Blaser F16 for my next shotgun purchase, the main obstacle to the Blaser being the $1,000 price difference between the two. Happily, one of my local ranges has a Blaser F16 demo gun available, so I'll get a chance to shoot it before making the choice. My options are always constrained because I'm left-handed, and finding a left-handed shotgun on the shelf can be difficult: I expect to have to order and wait for the next one. Getting a new Citori 725 ProSport with a left-hand stock will be a challenge (I don't know if they exist...), while the left-hand stock is clearly available for order with the Blaser F16. Both the 725 ProSport and the Blaser F16 are similarly plain-looking, very much a "function over form" approach. Some of us like it, some don't: I'm in the former camp. Again, thanks, your reviews have offered some informed encouragement about the Blaser F16 and the ProSport 725. Well done!
@lloydyp6 жыл бұрын
Chris Ohland I think you get more bang for your buck with the pro sport, but getting a proper left handed F16 would be a big plus. They handle very very differently too. As I always advise, try both and buy the one you love.
@lloydyp6 жыл бұрын
Hey Chris, what did you buy in the end?
@cohland6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking back, Lloyd. Browning's new USA product lineup for 2018 lists no left-handed 725s, although I think I could probably have a left-handed stock (from replacement parts) fitted to a new 725, I'm inclined to get the Blaser F16. I tried one for fit, and it was fine, but I'll rent and shoot one before committing.
@lloydyp6 жыл бұрын
Chris Ohland I think the big difference is that Blaser and Krieghoff actually make properly Left handed guns. E.g the top lever, not just the cast of the stock.
@cohland6 жыл бұрын
Well, I had the opportunity to shoot a right-handed Blaser F16, and the results were "mixed". A 30" standard F16 slapped me around a bit. With short barrels, the wrong stock cast, no adjustable comb, and no extra weights it wasn't a great experience, although in spite of those factors I did hit fairly well with the gun. The dealer has ordered his new Blaser inventory, one of which will be a 32" left-hand F16 with adjustable comb and both sets of weights, which should feel better. I expect to be able to shoot this one within a few weeks, so I'll report back. In the meantime, I've learned that the Browning 725 Pro is not available in left-hand, so that door seems to be closed. I was kind of hoping for the Browning because I have ten aftermarket choke tubes, a mix of Briley and Müller, and if I get a new Blaser I'll need to order about six.
@nunoduclasoares81535 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your videos Lloyd Pattison After 2 yers of experience with the B725 ProSport what is your opinion? Thank you.
@lloydyp5 жыл бұрын
I still think it's one of the best value guns around for the money.
@nunoduclasoares81535 жыл бұрын
B725 Pro Sport vs Beretta 692 Black Edition, what is your opinion Lloyd Pattison? Are they similar?
@lloydyp5 жыл бұрын
@@nunoduclasoares8153 nope, very very different guns. 692 black is very light and fast, the 725 is a much more deliberate gun to move around. They are both black, there the similarities end.
@nunoduclasoares81535 жыл бұрын
@@lloydyp , sorry but when i said 692 black Edition i mean 692 Sporting Black Edition. Thanks
@lloydyp5 жыл бұрын
@@nunoduclasoares8153 that was my assumption.
@johncashmore64883 жыл бұрын
Hi Lloyd great review on the pro sport but would you say it’s a good upgrade from the 725 S3 Black edition,or should I be looking at other brands for a competition gun.
@lloydyp3 жыл бұрын
Yeah id say it's a good upgrade for the money.
@martynissitt26936 жыл бұрын
Lloyd I know the balance is adjustable but would you favour the 30 or 32 barrel length ?
@lloydyp6 жыл бұрын
personal preference Martyn, this particular gun felt good with 30" but I suspect it would balance well with the 32s on too, it is of course adjustable so as ever I would recommend trying before you buy.
@philbarbera14713 жыл бұрын
Hi Lloyd. Great content. Would you use the pro sport as a hybrid for trap/sport if only able to have (afford) one gun? I like the idea of the B725 Pro Master but not yet avail in the US.
@lloydyp3 жыл бұрын
Definitely yes. You can shoot anything with any gun, you don't need a trap gun for trap.
@spenman406 жыл бұрын
Hey Lloyd do you feel the invictus by Caesar guerini a step up from this?
@lloydyp6 жыл бұрын
Michael Musgrave no, I would say they are on par.
@alexandrospezikis3469 Жыл бұрын
Great review Lloyd. XS pro vs Pro Sport, which one would you choose?
@lloydyp Жыл бұрын
XS PRO, on balance I prefer the 525 based action and trigger Vs the 725.
@user-oi8gp3bf9y2 ай бұрын
Obě super
@brucealabaster29453 жыл бұрын
Hi Lloyd, great review as always. I,m currently shooting a 525 SL and getting on well with it, If I wanted to upgrade would you recommend an Ultra XS Pro or a 725 Pro sport?, ( I shoot sporting clays), cheers, Bruce.
@lloydyp3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I'd stick with the SL if I were you. The other 2 come with more chokes and accessories but if the SL fits you, keep it. If you want a gun with a palm swell then there is an argument for the 725, but unless you have a burning desire spend your money on clays and cartridges and not more guns.
@brucealabaster29453 жыл бұрын
@@lloydyp Thanks for replying so quickly Lloyd, You,ve convinced me- I,ll stick with the SL (Just purchased another 1000 shells!), really appreciate your opinion, the SL goes bang and breaks clays, what more do I need, Thanks again, cheers, Bruce.
@dankruger2890 Жыл бұрын
I will say the 725 in my club seem to smash clays
@danielenoiu2 жыл бұрын
Very nice review! Browning prosport vs zoli (second hand)? Thank you!
@lloydyp2 жыл бұрын
Which Zoli?
@danielenoiu2 жыл бұрын
Zoli Z Sport the one you reviewed! Thank you very much!
@lloydyp2 жыл бұрын
@@danielenoiu I would probably go for the Zoli.
@danielenoiu2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I really appreciate 👍
@panayiotishadjipavlis15945 жыл бұрын
Heyy Lloyd.. What is your opinion between pro sport and Dt11?? I am thinking to sell my pro sport for a dt11 silver sporter and i would like to have your opinion. Thanks
@lloydyp5 жыл бұрын
Not really a fair comparison, the DT11 is 5k more than a pro sport. I wouldnt hesitate to recommend the DT11 to anyone.
@Lethal_Intent3 жыл бұрын
Hi Lloyd, Any experience or thoughts on the Pro Master variant of this?
@lloydyp3 жыл бұрын
Indeed, essentially the master has a sporting Monte Carlo (instead of the more parallel drop on the pro trap) and an improved version of the adjustable rib that doesn't require tools to adjust.
@Lethal_Intent3 жыл бұрын
@@lloydyp Thanks I'm umming and ahing between the sport and the master. I think i might just spend abit more and go for the master as i seem to shoot abit better with mid/higher rib guns.
@lloydyp3 жыл бұрын
No problem.
@1127kat6 жыл бұрын
Hello... just watched your review on the Pro Sport. Very good might I add. I'm shooting the 725 30in Black Edition Sport. And was thinking of swapping to the Pro Sport. The 725 sport feels light and a combination of a game/sporting gun. I'm very pleased with it however I would prefer a more Clay/Sporting gun. In your experienced opinion is there that much a difference to set each gun apart. Was there a noticeable difference. Many thanks in advance. Best wishes Mick.
@lloydyp6 жыл бұрын
I given a choice between the two I would have the Pro Sport any day, but if you already have a Black edition you might not feel enough difference to warrant the expense. You will gain a number of adjustable bits and a beavertail fore end but the your current gun fits, you dont need them if you know what I mean?
@1127kat6 жыл бұрын
Lloyd Pattison. Thanks for your reply it is very much appreciated. Well I took the hit and exchanged the 725 black sport for the Pro Sport and firstly found the recoil more manageable. The adjustable combe advantageous and the barrel weights handy to balance the gun (Central on the hinge pin...interested to know what your view on that would be ?) The contents in the gun case I would presume are a given ? What i mean is the same components for each and every Pro Sp supplied with the gun from the Browning factory. Because I haven't the spare butt pad and the choke range are from 1/4, full to extra full. More like a trap set up. I've spoken to the gun supplier and they are happy to help. I just thought I'd run it by you also. Many thanks in advance. Best wishes Mick.
@lloydyp6 жыл бұрын
1127kat hey man, good stuff glad you like it. Balance is quite personal depending on your build and shooting style, what you might like I might hate and vice versa. Start neutral and go from there. As to what’s in the box it should be standard but sometimes bits get borrowed when a gun is in stock if you know what I mean. The dealer should replace any missing parts. Choke wise it’s been a while and I would need to check for you what the standard load out is.
@1127kat6 жыл бұрын
Lloyd Pattison Quick reply.... nice. Yes personal preference is what I thought regarding the weights. Someone has mentioned that it's a good idea to weight the gun slightly forward of the hinge pin (help with muzzle flip) ? I've looked through the Browning Web sites to see if they had a spec list but haven't found any info and you confirmed my own thought with the supplier stock loan issue ☺ I've yet to pattern plate it but that's is on my list to do. Like you say it's a nice piece of kit.... so far so good. Let me know if you can find out the correct parts list. Many thanks again.
@lloydyp6 жыл бұрын
1127kat No don’t do that, set the gun up so it swings and feels right to you, muzzle flip is one of those things people talk about, and it sounds feasible, but is in fact utter rubbish. Go watch the high speed footage of me shooting the 828u, 6 lb gun, 32g cart and there is no “flip” the gun recoils straight back.
@Cuzzazbuzz7 жыл бұрын
As a newbie with my eye on this gun due to its adjustability, how do you decide on barrel length? What difference does it make?
@lloydyp7 жыл бұрын
Cuzzazbuzz gun speed essentially. Longer barrels move slower (32") and are in vogue at the moment. 30" is a "normal" length. And 28" is very fast and light. You need to try them and feel the difference.
@lloydyp7 жыл бұрын
There isn't a convenient way to decide what will suit your shooting style without trying one unfortunately. Handle both 30 and 32 inch guns, better still shoot them on a variety of presentations and you should feel the difference in inertia and balance. There isn't a global preference as different guns balance and handle differently, however the general idea is that 32" guns tend to have slightly more inertia in the swing than 30" guns, e.g. take a little more effort to get moving and tend to want to stay in motion resulting in a smoother swing and less twitchyness.
@Cuzzazbuzz7 жыл бұрын
Cheers Lloyd. Are you part of the Bywell gun shop? I might call up sometime...
@lloydyp7 жыл бұрын
Cuzzazbuzz I work with Bywell on these reviews and I'm up there most weekends but I don't work in the gun room.
@clumhain5 жыл бұрын
Lloyd great channel! If you are free to say. what, in sporting clays terms, is the return on investment for you regarding guns. In other words if i give you a reasonably fitting AYA and a reasonably fitting Krieghoff Parcours what is the percentile difference in birds hit on a sporting clays course? I genuinely wonder as a C class shooter knowing no better?
@lloydyp3 жыл бұрын
Short answer: You cant buy points. If you have a gun that fits you, a more expensive gun that fits the same or worse isn't going to break more clays. However how much you enjoy the gun based on how nice it is to handle and look at are definitely enhanced.
@dankruger2890 Жыл бұрын
Personally i think some guns pattern better than other, the boring changes the kick back and pattern and can help your score. How do you feel when the clay breaks? I have an old 2000 Citori 30inch that just smashes clays and makes me feel great.
@ethanpham56247 жыл бұрын
I asked on the 725 vid, but can you do a more in depth video on the F16?
@lloydyp7 жыл бұрын
if I can get hold of another one I can certainly do something, perhaps a full comparison with the F3?
@ethanpham56247 жыл бұрын
That would be great. I'm trying to decide between that and a caesar guerini.
@lloydyp7 жыл бұрын
Which Guerini?
@ethanpham56247 жыл бұрын
The Summit impact.
@lloydyp7 жыл бұрын
ethan pham two very different guns.
@vastaiko5 жыл бұрын
Do you find it easier to track targets versus beretta 692 ?
@lloydyp5 жыл бұрын
Hmm. Personally, I find heavier guns have a more repeatable swing and are less likely to pull offline. I prefer the Prosport over the 692 for sure, but everyone is different.
@vastaiko5 жыл бұрын
@@lloydyp How it shoots fibre cardridges (if you tested any ) ? Or it can"t because it is backbore ?
@lloydyp5 жыл бұрын
@@vastaiko sorry I didnt test it, however I know plenty of peple that shoot fibre with one, doesnt seem to bother them
@hamzakhansial7 жыл бұрын
can you tell me brother which one is better BRAND in (OVER UNDER) category BERETTA VS BROWNING
@lloydyp7 жыл бұрын
lol, no way I am opening that can of worms.
@SMOKINSHOOZ605 жыл бұрын
Quality is subjective. We all have differing opinions on what represents "Quality". Therefore, what works for one person may not work for another. A local guy shoots DTL with a full/full side by side and clears 95/100 - aesthetically not a work of art, but mechanically it does the business. Find what works for you.
@richeh795 жыл бұрын
How does this stack up against a Blaser F16? On the lookout for a new gun and looking at thses two at the moment
@lloydyp5 жыл бұрын
Very different guns. The F16 is, IMO a good all rounder, light and fast enough for game, and great on clays if you like a lighter weight gun. The Pro Sport is more of a dedicated clay gun, half a pound heavier and loads of adjust-ability, with all the spares and doo-dads included. I would try both and see what you gel with.
@richeh795 жыл бұрын
@@lloydyp Thanks Lloyd, going to look at both on Monday. Will let you know which one I go for - FYI, I can get the 725 for £700 less than the F16 through my dealer, will try to not let that sway my opinion though!
@lloydyp5 жыл бұрын
Cool, send photos :)
@richeh795 жыл бұрын
@@lloydyp Ended up getting the Pro sport. The F16 was a lovely gun, and the grade 4 wood was real nice. It was a lot lighter than the pro sport, which I had mixed feelings on initially. I went and fetched my gun from the car and was surprised how similar in weight to the pro sport it was. Got offered a good price for mine (little more than what I paid) and got the pro sport. Couldn't argue with the price, got a good deal on it as it was "used". Overall the F16 was nice, little bit light to what I'm used to and also didn't feel it was £700 more gun than what I walked away with.
@lloydyp5 жыл бұрын
@@richeh79 nice one, I'm sure you will love it. Sounds like you got a good deal too.
@martynissitt26936 жыл бұрын
Hi I’m currently salivating over the Browning 725 ProSport, or the Caesar Guerini Summit Ascent, both in 12 gauge. Both are fantastic guns, but in your opinion which is the better built ? I hear people saying the Guerini is made of poor metal, and allegedly Brownings quality has dipped. Just value your opinion.
@lloydyp6 жыл бұрын
MARTYN ISSITT oooff that’s a question Martin. I don’t think there is a vast gulf between them but if it were my money, I would look at a second hand invictus as a safer buy. Either gun bought new will lose 20% as soon as you pull the trigger. A second hand invictus will hold its value and is a hell of a lot of gun for the money. I haven’t tested the summit yet, but I would always say buy a well cared for second hand belter vs a new gun unless you specifically want a particular new gun.
@martynissitt26936 жыл бұрын
Lloyd Pattison many thanks ,I am in the hard saving phase at the moment, so I will keep my fingers crossed that a Summit crosses your path for a review before I am ready. Really enjoy your reviews, keep up the good work
@VinCent-xy5lg4 жыл бұрын
Watch what your doing with your wedding ring, you tapped the blueing in the beginning of the video
@lloydyp4 жыл бұрын
I have responded to this point many times Vin, suffice to say; no, I will not take my wedding ring off.
@rramramirez93236 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video and acknowledgment at the end. I almost stopped watching during the critique in the beginning.
@lloydyp6 жыл бұрын
Rram why so?
@rramramirez93236 жыл бұрын
The reason, I knew you were comparing shotguns with different specifications and options when you were comparing it to the lighter 725. Weight indeed affects recoil. Again thank you for your videos I do enjoy them. I purchased my first Citori over 30 years ago and had never had to have a Browning serviced other than stock adjustments when new.
@henrybaillie-hamilton94535 жыл бұрын
Have had a lot of probes with triggers. Browning have lied not a totally mechanical triggers , some parts rely on recoil to set. If you have a 725 you owe it to yourself to Google 725 trigger problems. Shocking how dangerous. How the heck could Browning get it so wrong.
@lloydyp3 жыл бұрын
Not heard of a lot of issues with these coming back for work.
@nmhvactech54745 жыл бұрын
I recently purchased a USA Browning Citori 725 “Pro” Sporting and I feel ripped off, with major buyers remorse!!! The only difference between the “Pro” and the regular adjustable 725 sporting is the lockable case, stock ONLY balancing weights, supposedly high grade 3-4 wood, and the laser engraving on the receiver, ( which is no where near as defined as the representation on Browning’s website.) Which are not worth the extra $400+ over the regular adjustable 725 sporting. 1st the lockable case is okay, but really it’s a large generic fit ( $150 at most ). 2nd my gun weighs 8lbs 2.5oz ( nice ) But it back heavy and balanced about and 1” behind the hinge. Adding more weight to the stock and not having the barrel balancing weights to counter will throw the balance off even more. 3rd the wood isn’t better than the regular adjustable versions I have seen. Also the wood has lots of pits and need to be filled with oil or something. 4th Like most things, the pictures of receiver on Browning’s website shows clear a defined definition of textures where mine, ( and the other 2 at the store ) have an almost completely silver receiver with light grey Letters of Pro on the side. No definition!!! Also the gun comes wrapped in plastic, Not nice socks. The accessories, spare chokes, and parts only comes a cardboard box, not a descent plastic case!!! My package didn’t even have the stock counter balances. Definitely not worth $3500 or the extra $750 over the regular adjustable stock version. I wish we could get the EU version of the ProSport in the US. It seems like a better package than what we’re getting. Here Browning doesn’t even know about barrel weights or what the specs are for most version being made!!! Disappointed!!!
@lloydyp3 жыл бұрын
Thats a shame, but I cant really comment on the US Citori guns as I have never even seen one.
@AliShooting7 жыл бұрын
Lioyd please remove that ring from your finger.. you make me nervous every time you scratch the gun 😡🚬😵
@lloydyp7 жыл бұрын
Ali Alzaabi my wedding ring is Palladium, the barrel is steel. Even mild steel is harder than Palladium and just like using a bronze brush cannot harm the barrels.
@AliShooting7 жыл бұрын
Lloyd Pattison how about the wood 😂😁 man I am joking
@Jolly56Roger6 жыл бұрын
take your ring of !
@lloydyp3 жыл бұрын
No.
@cfcbeanz11223 жыл бұрын
@@lloydyp 2 years later the man still stands his ground 👏🏼👏🏼😂