Buffalo Bore 10MM Blackhawk Gel Test: Service Advisory Warning

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Ай бұрын

I may be kicked out of the group after making this video and this statement. With the rise of the 10MM over the last few years. I have seen a lot of content discuss watered down or lawyered 10MM loads. Though true about some factory loads, this has caused me great concern. I see many reloading and going above book max trying to tun 10MM into a 41 or 44 Magnum.
With the right components especially slow burning powder. Will enable you to achieve full power 10MM loads.
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Don't try to make 10MM something it is NOT always put safety over velocity.
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@mtower235 Ай бұрын

That 10mm Blackhawk is a thing of beauty

@Dayattherange Ай бұрын

It sure is there is even a 4in model. I decided to get the maximum out of the 10mm with the 6in

@notsure653 Ай бұрын

i was unaware of your load data base. I will use that weekly now! Thanks for the work and info.

@Dayattherange Ай бұрын

Always double check, but again with the right components I think people would be surprised of what this wonderful round is capable of.

@cw2a Ай бұрын

Yup 10mm is the BEST MM!!! ❤❤❤❤

@ThecrazyScotsman Ай бұрын

O yeah two of the best things around, revolvers and 10mm

@realtruth4259 Ай бұрын

GR8 VIDEO THNX

@kipkaniper4679 Ай бұрын

Jelly time💪👍

@Able-Man Ай бұрын

Is that a STAINLESS Blackhawk? ... (The last I was aware, was that the "Super Redhawk" was my only option for a stainless steel Ruger!)

@Dayattherange Ай бұрын

Yes sir it is a stainless

@Able-Man Ай бұрын

@@DayattherangeSWEET!!!

@steven3379 Ай бұрын

I recently purchased a P220 Legion 10mm SAO, I love it. I don't load my own, so nothing but factory fuel for her. Good video, thanks for sharing!

@Dayattherange Ай бұрын

You have one that will last forever. The 220's are nice.

@guardianminifarm8005 Ай бұрын

Good stuff. Many thanks.

@Indiana424 Ай бұрын

Awesome!

@ericnichols9275 Ай бұрын

Was A 10MM guy back in early 90s my dad new a SOUTHERN guy from work that did reloading and i would give my dad my Brass every week for him to reload and told him push the pressure to the LIMIT or just give me some easy loads this week to me 10mm is right in-between 38 +p and 41'MAG had 2 guns one S&W D/A SEMI-AUTO and the one i realy mis is my COLT DELTA ELEAT should have never sold that gun 33 years ago

@johnknouse8846 Ай бұрын

Love me some 10mm. I’d have to go back and look at my data, but I believe using the 180 XTP and Blue Dot powder I’m running about 1400 fps in my Glock 20. Tell you what, this video put a fire under me to get that Glock back out to the range. I’ve definitely been neglecting it. Don’t think I’ve shot it since I was deer hunting in December, and pulled it out to take a pot-shot at a coyote that ran about 40 yards from my stand. Of course I missed, but I may have taken some fur off his under carriage!

@davidjernigan8161 Ай бұрын

In my experience the book loads are not watered down at least with speer. Speer book velocities tend to be lower than what is achieved with the listed bullet and powder charge combination as compared to what is seen in real life, and what hand loader magazine achieves with the same bullet and powder by a significant margin.

@876mpr Ай бұрын

Definitely no need to hot rod the 10mm. Even if you do, it’s still just a mid-range .41 magnum power level at higher pressure.

@glendavis9663 Ай бұрын

👍👍

@CplSkiUSMC Ай бұрын

I was 10mm when 10mm wasn't cool. You can exceed book load, but you have to do so VERY CAREFULLY. I have a 200gr XTP hunting load that gave me Glock smile with the stock barrel at max, but at .2gr over max in my 6" Lone Wolf barrel performed safely with no pressure sign.

@Dayattherange Ай бұрын

Again I do not recommend brother because in my humble opinion some these loads with fast burning powder in 10MM is spiky and peak pressure can happen with just .2 over. Though you are a seasoned reloader and like I said probably know what components to choose. That even means the freedom pill they are not all created equal. I have seen some drive 10MM really hard and when I tested their rounds in gel in front of them they were blown away. Where my loads though some hot but very safe was slower than theirs by 75fps had better penetration. They were stunned I was not. Because of the components they were using were not up to the task. The projectile they were using could not handle the speed they were pushing and it forced the hollow point to open very fast which slowed it down and traveled only 8inches into the gel. Where my slower round opened up as it should retained it's weight and traveled 19inches.

@CplSkiUSMC Ай бұрын

@@Dayattherange Roger that Top. I do it very carefully and sneak up on it like a cat sneaks up on a bird. Blue Dot is my favorite 10mm powder and I needed to hit 1200fps with that 200gr XTP to have the velocity needed to make legal limit for a handgun hunting in Wyoming. Wyoming's requirement is very high, the expanding projectile must retain 500 ft/lbs of energy at 100 yards to be legal. 1200 fps in the ballistic app still retained 500 ft/lbs at a hundred yards with that 200gr XTP but the stock barrel wouldn't cut the mustard, but the match chamber in the Lone Wolf is a tighter and more supporting chamber and held the load very safely. You're right in that if you're not an experienced hand loader you probably shouldn't play around with those +P loadings.

@markchambers2812 Ай бұрын

Love the Ruger , are you shooting stock out of the box 10mm SA Ruger ?? Have you done any modifications on the 6 inch revolver ? Luv watching for informative video. Ty Mark

@Dayattherange Ай бұрын

Ty Mark. That is right out of the box

@chrislang5659 Ай бұрын

Pistolero!😮❤❤❤

@beetlefang Ай бұрын

I load and carry six in my Blackhawks - 10mm included. I lack a 10mm 1911 and just have a Glock 20...both are nice shooters though.

@Dayattherange Ай бұрын

I bet they are. Almost embarrassing to say never fired a glock20. Glock29 I have.

@Dayattherange Ай бұрын

You can safely carry six in the new model blackhawk but I had 5 in it because thats what was being fired across the chronograph. Also even though pointed at the backstop I wanted people to know it was safe

@Tikka65 Ай бұрын

The 1cm does know how to toss it's brass out of harms way.

@Dayattherange Ай бұрын

And to think where they would be landing with the factory recoil spring from colt which is a double captures spring of 16/20 pounds. I put a 22 pound spring in this one.

@Tikka65 Ай бұрын

@@Dayattherange WOW!

@stevekiemele995 Ай бұрын

Loading shorter increases pressure.

@Dayattherange Ай бұрын

It sure does that's part of the service announcement in the writeup.

@davidjernigan8161 Ай бұрын

It's a new model. Unless it was modified the hammer doesn't rest on the firing pin.

@Dayattherange Ай бұрын

You are correct the only reason 5 rounds were in there is because that's what I was going to shoot across the chronograph 😉

@randysmith7040 Ай бұрын

You said it a few times, no need to push the 10mm beyond it's duty. The same thing with 45 LG. Colt wanting to push it to 44 mag levels just buy a 44 mag.

@876mpr Ай бұрын

I disagree. The .45 Colt at 30,000 psi is more powerful than .44 magnum at 36,000 psi and the revolvers have the same margin of safety.

@bisleyblackhawk1288 Ай бұрын

@@876mprI totally agree 👍👍👍…long time Ruger .45 Colt Blackhawk shooter and reloader 👍👍👍

@mtower235 Ай бұрын

If your book doesn’t get you to the original load specs then the book is wrong and using the wrong powders. It’s a 10mm not a 40SW. Stay safe

@Dayattherange Ай бұрын

When you say Original which original are you talking about lol. Col Cooper's vision was a 170gr pill at 1300fps. Normal came along to improve upon and magnamize the round which tore up 1911's.

@mtower235 Ай бұрын

@@DayattherangeI remember that and the 200 at 1200. It’s very doable as you just proved with your 180.

@WilliamAndrewPhilipBodie Ай бұрын

You take out a revolver and don't have a cowboy hat on !!! No No No !!! 😅😂🤣

@Dayattherange Ай бұрын

Yes sir I screwed up for sure.

@WilliamAndrewPhilipBodie Ай бұрын

@@Dayattherange 😅😂🤣

@kirkboswell2575 Ай бұрын

The 10mm was designed to shoot 200 to 220 grain bullets at an honest 1200 to 1250 fps. After the FBI adoption revealed that most members couldn't handle full power loadings, the FBI came up with their performance standards for a "10mm lite" loading. This tickled S&W to no end because they could meet that standard of (10mm lite) performance in their 9mm frame (no need to develop a large frame now). Thus, the 40 S&W was born. With the 40 now available and in a standard frame size, a bunch of LEO's adopted the 40. In the meantime, that adoption by the FBI saved the 10mm from joining the obsolete list (thank you, FBI). The complaints about "weak light factory loads" aren't actually valid. Actually, the light loadings are meeting the established FBI loading for a "10mm lite," which coincidentally is similar to the 40 S&W. Has nothing to do with lawyers - merely a decision to choose one set of parameters vs. another. So, label reading is, indeed, required now. Full power loadings will meet or exceed 1200 fps with 200 grain bullets. Anything less than that and you are getting 10mm lite."

@Dayattherange Ай бұрын

It originally visioned as 170gr to 200gr. This story has changed over the years it wasn't the recoil is was the large frames for a 10mm that small hands could not handle.

@kirkboswell2575 Ай бұрын

@Dayattherange - I was reading that it was recoil at the time. But I'd certainly believe there was an issue with large frames and small hands. The changing story over time probably means that both were a factor.

@Dayattherange Ай бұрын

@@kirkboswell2575 How and why the story changed I am not sure why. The most prevalent one is 10MM recoil and FEMALES not being able to handle it so higher drop out rate at the academy. I was lucky enough to be stationed at Quantico Va. Most people hear Quantico and think FBI not knowing it is a Marine Corps Facility that the FBI happens to be located on. Plenty of access to ranges and training materials and not far from DC being there right outside of Woodbridge VA. I was lucky enough to be stationed there and read some of the official reports that read large frame pistols and small hands were a factor in first pass qualifications. It mentioned nothing about male or female. Unfortunately I was to dumb and young to sit down and study the whole thing because there was a big world out there to explore so I was doing other things. Lost opportunity I wish I had back.

@kirkboswell2575 Ай бұрын

@@Dayattherange - 😊 👍