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3 жыл бұрын

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@tylermaynard240
@tylermaynard240 3 жыл бұрын
Gonna miss this soo much 💔 thank you so much guys, the best reaction channel to Buffy to date. Please do ranking videos, we don’t want this to end 😟😟
@MackenzieRayneActress
@MackenzieRayneActress 3 жыл бұрын
🥰🥰🥰
@FANTHEORYTV
@FANTHEORYTV 2 жыл бұрын
😊.🥰.🤗. thank you so much!
@wendyheatherwood
@wendyheatherwood 3 жыл бұрын
Spike knocked down the Sunnydale sign when he first showed up in town and he knocks it down again on the way out, just a little more dramatically.
@MrDWinter
@MrDWinter 3 жыл бұрын
Third time’s the charm, right? “School Hard”, “Lover’s Walk”, and now this. :)
@stevenalexander6713
@stevenalexander6713 3 жыл бұрын
In School Hard he did a little bit of damage to the old school. Now he's completely demolished the new school.
@zemoxian
@zemoxian 3 жыл бұрын
@@stevenalexander6713 Buffy did a bit of damage to Hemery HS and the old Sunnydale HS. I think this is a continuation of her pattern as well. Hopefully Cleveland survives its Hellmouth.
@jamiesoltes3938
@jamiesoltes3938 2 жыл бұрын
I think logically.. When he reappears in "angel verse". A sunnydale sign should pop up somewhere? Right? 🤔😉 Lol
@FANTHEORYTV
@FANTHEORYTV 2 жыл бұрын
😂.🤣
@Jontor11
@Jontor11 3 жыл бұрын
That 'I love you' was also a callback to earlier this season when Cassie said to Spike "someday she'll tell you". It has been wonderful to follow you through this journey. Love you guys. See you in Angel s5.
@Sam-mi9wi
@Sam-mi9wi 3 жыл бұрын
That's the thing. Buffy did love Spike. Maybe not in the way she loved Angel but she did. That's how Whedon instructed SMG to act in that scene.
@1nelsondj
@1nelsondj 3 жыл бұрын
She loved him but was not IN LOVE with him, I get it.
@spikesecho724
@spikesecho724 3 жыл бұрын
She's not in love with either Spike or Angel at this point, but she definitely loves them both. They were different loves for different "Buffy's". We're always different people as years go by, and we also always love differently. I think she's incredibly more connected to Spike though, and there's always been more potential/better matching there for them as partners.
@Shadowman4710
@Shadowman4710 3 жыл бұрын
@@spikesecho724 Spoilers for the comics.... See: Seasons 9-11
@spikesecho724
@spikesecho724 3 жыл бұрын
@@Shadowman4710 I have! 💓💓
@sfer1
@sfer1 3 жыл бұрын
@@1nelsondj "Why does everybody in this house think I'm STILL in love with Spike?", she asked Willow in 'First Date'. It shows she was in love with him even when he didn"t have a soul. She just didn't want to admit it, because she felt it was wrong.
@carpelibrarium8522
@carpelibrarium8522 3 жыл бұрын
"Who can stand up *will* stand up" gives me chills every single time.
@jayfreitas9152
@jayfreitas9152 3 жыл бұрын
You don’t hear more about it because we’ve protected you from it for years lol. Spike and Buffys ending is widely talked about within the fandom. The way it’s written kind of changes the way you feel about spike. It’s his final act of redemption. He did this because it’s the right thing to do. Not to get anything from Buffy.
@BalletBullet1
@BalletBullet1 3 жыл бұрын
It’s funny that Giles says that there is a hell mouth in Cleveland and in The Wish, If Buffy never came to Sunnydale, she would have been in Cleveland lol
@hardybryan
@hardybryan 3 жыл бұрын
It's also where Faith gets sent in the comics to guard the Hellmouth. Sorry if that's a spoiler for anyone, but it's revealed very early in the comics.
@DavidWright1138
@DavidWright1138 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamie7398 I assume the plan would've been to send her to Cleveland (or wherever) once she got a new Watcher. I never got why they only sent one when they fired Giles.
@DavidWright1138
@DavidWright1138 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamie7398 I assumed there was 1 watcher "on deck" for the next slayer, Wesley. Then they had to scramble to find a second when they decided to can the G-man, but Faith turned to the Mayor so they didn't bother... Ooh... I wonder if one of the three sent to retrieve her (when she body swapped) was supposed to be her Watcher. I guess we'll never know (though there's some interesting Watcher stuff in the "Welcome to the Hellmouth" reboot comic).
@TheLoos3Goos33
@TheLoos3Goos33 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamie7398 Was she really sent to Sunnydale by the council? Or did she go there after Kakistos killed her watcher because she'd heard about Buffy? Could have sworn it was the latter but it might not be stated directly.
@danwiesdamageinc
@danwiesdamageinc 3 жыл бұрын
24:45 Xander's wording was a defense mechanism for dealing with his grief. It was also an insult to Andrew. Andrew nods in agreement that Anya dying to save his life was a stupid thing to do. It also tells Xander that Andrew understands Xander's grief.
@user-do2ev2hr7h
@user-do2ev2hr7h 3 жыл бұрын
It's also worth noting that it's a specific callback to something that passed between the two of them earlier (where Xander considered himself to be "the stupid thing" Anya kept coming back to), which IMHO significantly changes the meaning from what it otherwise would have been.
@DrawingPicture
@DrawingPicture 3 жыл бұрын
I get that we would want all of our characters to get grand acknowledged deaths but that's not how wars are. I feel like there is something beautiful but also tragic about Anya's death. It was so human. In the end Anya ended up becoming one of those "stupid" humans she was always so exasperated with - always trying to make the world better. I'm glad we got that little talk with her and Andrew last episode to emphasize that.
@CJ77777
@CJ77777 3 жыл бұрын
"How we go through this? I mean, I knew her, and then she's...there's just a body, and I don't understand why she just can't get back in it and not be dead anymore. It's stupid. It's mortal and stupid."
@NoThankUBeQuiet
@NoThankUBeQuiet 2 жыл бұрын
@@CJ77777 And yet 2 seasons later "They all know it's coming and yet are surprised when it happens"
@ericaschaefer8486
@ericaschaefer8486 3 жыл бұрын
And now we finally get to the moment with the emotional connection that *truly* gets the Spike/Buffy relationship to a place that makes so many fans love them and their connection... It's funny when new people come into the series knowing that Spuffy is a ship that people root for, because it is so toxic and terrible for such a long time that it leaves them going "This? Really? You're rooting for *this*?" and only now does it all make sense narratively and emotionally. In hindsight, it's easy to love Spuffy earlier because you know where it's going. The first time around, if you've only heard vague things about them getting together, I think it leaves people confused for, like, most of the series.
@jasonmiller3543
@jasonmiller3543 3 жыл бұрын
Xander's whole "that's my girl, always doing the stupid thing" was in response to Andrew saying "she died saving my life." It's another Xander using humor to cope with loss as in his opinion saving Andrew was a stupid thing for Anya to do. It's in character for him to say but the humor is so subtle in this context that it is easy to miss.
@jspettifer
@jspettifer 3 жыл бұрын
And Andrew again making up a story but this time for a good reason
@donsample1002
@donsample1002 3 жыл бұрын
jspettifer And not really a story. Anya had just taken out a Bringer that was going after Andrew when she got slashed from behind.
@bradbecker8212
@bradbecker8212 3 жыл бұрын
Angel cursed with a soul Spike fought and earned his soul…
@fenixjpb
@fenixjpb 3 жыл бұрын
AMEN BROTHER!
@seanthomas3091
@seanthomas3091 2 жыл бұрын
because Spike thought it was the only way to get a woman, not because he wanted to atone for his sins*. There, I fixed your comment for you.
@NachoTaco207
@NachoTaco207 2 жыл бұрын
@@seanthomas3091 he only thought that would work when he was still soulless though. Once he finally did get his soul, that wasn't his goal anymore, just a distant hope. Even till the end he knew deep down that she would never love him. But he at least got to redeem himself in her eyes.
@energymaven7537
@energymaven7537 Жыл бұрын
@@NachoTaco207 Exactly. Ensouled Spike didn't want to tell Buffy about his soul right away, didn't go looking for a pat on the head or to get the prize - even when he was crazy at first. After she knew, and he told her he loved her, he made it clear that his love was for who she is, not about what he might get in return. He fully expected to stay in the comfy chair, and happily would have. I don't blame him for accepting the subsequent cuddles, or for hoping for more when Buffy said she was right there with him in all those feelings during their closeness.
@ToShanshuinFiction
@ToShanshuinFiction 3 жыл бұрын
Here's some food for thought: Spike wore the amulet, making him the big hero and completing his journey, but... Who gave Angel that amulet again? Oh yeah. The bad guys. Wolfram and Hart played Angel, Buffy, and Spike in order to eliminate Sunnydale [a huge center of mystical energy], destroy the First's army [possibly to make themselves the only major power player...the word monopoly comes to mind], and kill the prophesied vampire with a soul [despite possibly not knowing there was more than one]. So, in retrospect, Wolfram and Hart is the ultimate Buffyverse big bad...on both shows.
@seanthomas3091
@seanthomas3091 2 жыл бұрын
Yet The First is the reason they even exist. Remember, Buffy won in the end ("The First is scrunched ...") but she didn't kill the First Evil. It's not something you can ever truly get rid of. It's in the hearts of men and the thoughts of children. Pure evil. The evil that even motivates Wolfram & Hart. It's older than the Old Ones. They simply can't compare.
@Grimium
@Grimium 3 жыл бұрын
Spike finally won against that sign
@patriciahess8994
@patriciahess8994 3 жыл бұрын
I love how Buffy's last words for the entire series was "I love you. Spike."
@spikesecho724
@spikesecho724 3 жыл бұрын
💓💓💓
@arc7375
@arc7375 6 ай бұрын
No. Her last word in the series is “Spike”.
@eduardofilippi7698
@eduardofilippi7698 2 ай бұрын
Yeah. I love you... wait for... wait... Spike.
@roadrunnerbeepbeep7482
@roadrunnerbeepbeep7482 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, Buffy did love Spike. It's been confirmed by Whedon. "Love him when you say you love him. And love her when you say she doesn't". That was his advice for SMG and James Marsters. Don't think she was in love with him but she finally accepted that she did love him. That's why she smiles right before she says it, and then tears up as she realises she's accepted it too late.
@spikejr3113jr
@spikejr3113jr 3 жыл бұрын
True and in the comics that continues the story also confirm that they are in love.
@Shadowman4710
@Shadowman4710 3 жыл бұрын
I took that line as Spike refusing to believe what he had been desperately wishing for for over 2 seasons. I also think that Buffy pretty much came to that conclusion at the end of S7.
@gjjijji
@gjjijji 3 жыл бұрын
@@spikejr3113jr that’s a spoiler
@holi117
@holi117 2 жыл бұрын
@@Shadowman4710 and also, if he believed she loved him in that moment, it might have made him run with her, or her stay too long with him and die. To me, its partly his disbelief and acceptance and love for her, partly to save her, partly to save the world. Its a call back to him telling her he loves her and her saying ‘no you dont’, and the look she gives his pride, live, understanding, gratitude… its just so bitter sweet for me
@painlord2k
@painlord2k 2 жыл бұрын
Loving and falling in love are two different concepts.
@TheHalloweenKing
@TheHalloweenKing 3 жыл бұрын
Love the fact he laughs in the Face of the Evil at the end
@carpelibrarium8522
@carpelibrarium8522 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of people feel like Anya was done dirty. I appreciated Andrew's tribute to Anya, spinning a positive story about her heroically saving his life, rather than the truth of her being cut down unprepared from behind.
@MrDWinter
@MrDWinter 3 жыл бұрын
I am SO going to miss watching you guys react to Buffy! Your videos are one of the highlights of my week. I totally get what you’re saying about Anya: I think the writers had in mind for someone to just die senselessly (because that’s how these things play out IRL), and Anya kind of drew the short straw. It sucks - it would have been nice, for example, if she used her magic knowledge to help Willow do the spell - but I can understand the writing choice. And I also agree with the beauty of that moment between Buffy and Spike. The whole season, and especially the last few episodes, have really brought a lot of depth and subtlety to their relationship, and big props to the writers and actors for that.
@geraintthatcher3076
@geraintthatcher3076 3 жыл бұрын
There's still Angel Season 5 to do
@JordiVanderwaal
@JordiVanderwaal 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't Emma Caulfield ask to be killed like this though?
@MrDWinter
@MrDWinter 3 жыл бұрын
@@JordiVanderwaal come to think of it, I think you’re right.
@koreygeren2677
@koreygeren2677 3 жыл бұрын
@@JordiVanderwaal Yes,, because she didn't want to be in any possible future projects or something. Not that death in this universe is final.
@JordiVanderwaal
@JordiVanderwaal 3 жыл бұрын
@@koreygeren2677 oh yes, I remember reading she wanted out, even if they did more seasons or spin offs.
@anomalykru8552
@anomalykru8552 2 жыл бұрын
I think Spike saying “No you don’t, but thanks for saying it” was more about Spikes own insecurities about Buffy not loving him, rather than Buffy’s actual feelings. She definitely loved Spike, that was her finally accepting how she felt and being honest.
@zebritah1
@zebritah1 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@maxandra1955
@maxandra1955 Жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you.
@arc7375
@arc7375 6 ай бұрын
No. I think while Buffy genuinely had some feelings for Spike, it certainly wasn’t love.
@King-Vis
@King-Vis 5 ай бұрын
@@arc7375 She definitely loved him. It would be out of Buffy's character to say "I love you" and *not* mean it.
@Eniril1
@Eniril1 3 ай бұрын
@@King-Vis Then she would have corrected him and not left it in suspense. It's even more uncharacteristic and nonsensical of her to leave him with that if she did love him. She had affection and respect for him though. She had love for him while not being in love with him.
@BlahBlahWoofWoof12
@BlahBlahWoofWoof12 3 жыл бұрын
Everytime I see someone get to the end of this series it always bring back those old feelings of my first time experiencing it. After everything they all went through, all the pain, all the teard, all the laughs, all the smiles all led up to this moment where they can choose what they want to do. They aren't carrying the burden of the responsibility of the world anymore. Whatever happens next is whatever they want.
@buffsummers
@buffsummers 3 жыл бұрын
"I thought this was a sort of romantic image, the two of them. We actually did it with real fire, but their hands were all gelled up and you could tell, so this was added in CGI and it looks beautiful. I thought it was a nice comment on their relationship. But what I basically told [Sarah and James] was: “Play the romance. Be proud of him. Love him when you say you love him. Love her when you say she doesn’t love you. Forget about the crumbling world. For that period of time, it doesn’t exist.” It’s a cinematic trick, but it’s a necessary emotional one." - JW
@trophyeyes1989
@trophyeyes1989 3 жыл бұрын
That smile at the end. She’s cookies ❤️
@LittleMissDivine
@LittleMissDivine 3 жыл бұрын
she sure is omg I´m getting tear eyed again
@Maca494
@Maca494 3 жыл бұрын
what i love about the spike buffy moment is, she could have been telling the truth and told him she loved him because he was gonna die and she wanted to finally admit it and he simply didnt believe her, but thanks her for trying to give him a happy death, or the way mackenzie described it. Just saying it to make him happy and him knowing its a lie, but thanking her for it anyways the fact that she got teared up in a Spike scene...omg xdd
@IslandpferdeHaukagil
@IslandpferdeHaukagil 3 жыл бұрын
Even though Anya would hav deserved a more heroic death, it is more realistic this way. In a war you don't get the proper send off. I would have liked to see a better reaction from Giles when Buffy answers his question "What did this?" with "Spike".If Giles' plan to kill Spike in Lies my Parents Told Me had succeeded, maybe everybody would be dead by now... I also feel like they brushed over the whole "throw Buffy out of the house"-thing too fast. They never even talked about it. Buffy came back and they were all acting like it never happened and all was good.
@nataliej54
@nataliej54 3 жыл бұрын
Can't believe this is the series finale, it's been a great journey, roller-coaster, MacKenzie and Kyle, I still get the same feeling when it aired 18 years ago, soo many amazing/sad, every potential slayer becomes a slayer is still awesome and shocking, soo cool that Buffy came up with this decision, Spike, Anya and Amanda dying soo sad 😥😥 may they all RIP, the Angel/Buffy reunion was soo sweet, but I still love Spike, and Buffy telling Spike she loves him, while holding his burning hand, is still one of the most iconic moments for me, Joss confirmed that she meant it, that she loves him, also I heard that Spike's drawing of Angel on the punching bag was drawn by Joss Whedon, also seeing Angel again is amazing, seeing Angel and Spike soo jealous of each other is funny and awesome, David and James are both incredible actors.
@JordiVanderwaal
@JordiVanderwaal 3 жыл бұрын
The last one, the end of a journey. T-T I cried so much during the Buffy finale. That speech at the end is still one of the best ever given on television. Are you ready to be strong? Not me crying during this reaction. xD
@FANTHEORYTV
@FANTHEORYTV 2 жыл бұрын
Jordi! It's been awhile! Thank you as always and sending you warm hugs!
@Shadowman4710
@Shadowman4710 3 жыл бұрын
"There could be oil of some kind involved..." Look out. Buffy been into the Spangel fanfic again... "Oh please, I'm so much prettier than you are..." He ain't wrong.
@1nelsondj
@1nelsondj 3 жыл бұрын
Andrew Wells: Picture happy things. A lake. Candy canes. Bunnies. Anya: [enraged] Bunnies! Floppy, hoppy... bunnies!
@fenixjpb
@fenixjpb 3 жыл бұрын
I looooveeeee Spike 😢 seeing him to dust was the worse for me. I cry..everytime. still today
@wobaguk
@wobaguk 3 жыл бұрын
Buffy was funadmentally important to my introduction to the internet. One of the earlier things I did on the internet was end up being a mod on the UK Buffy forums, Ive certainly not talked about any other show as much.
@mlkj13
@mlkj13 3 жыл бұрын
Same for me, that Buffy was so important to my involvement in the internet and fan forums back in the day.
@simom931
@simom931 3 жыл бұрын
The last word Buffy says in the series is "Spike"
@SybillT
@SybillT 3 жыл бұрын
Last 4 words... I love you. Spike.
@BlackGirlMarvel
@BlackGirlMarvel 2 жыл бұрын
If you think about it, if Connor was never born, he would've never banged Cordy, to have Jasmine, so she'd be defeated, so Angel and Co would take over Wolfram and Hart, so that Angel would have the resources to get the amulet, so Buffy could give it to Spike to bring down the First Evil.
@davidabercrombie5427
@davidabercrombie5427 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best episode in all of the Slayerverse....and one guaranteed to make me cry. And if Kyle reads this....you're cookie dough 💗
@FANTHEORYTV
@FANTHEORYTV 3 жыл бұрын
Awww… I love that…
@davidabercrombie5427
@davidabercrombie5427 3 жыл бұрын
@@FANTHEORYTV I thought it might help with some of the stuff you mentioned in your recent video. This episode seems to have come along at the right time
@hardybryan
@hardybryan 3 жыл бұрын
I also love that final moment with Buffy and Spike. She actually does love Spike after all he's done for her and what he's become, but yeah not in the way he loves her. But I don't think it's a lie to tell him she loves him. Just as it wouldn't be a lie for her to say that to Xander if he were in that position (I understand how different the dynamics are, but still she has love for Spike). Anya is my favorite character after Buffy and I know a lot of fans are disappointed with how she was killed. My only beef is with her dying at all. I never expected an actual heroic demise for her, but I'm glad Andrew was able to use his storytelling skills to give her that for Xander. The metaphor of Buffy sharing her power with the world in such a triumphant manner is amazing. I'll always say that 5x22 was actually a better series finale (that episode is beyond amazing), but I'm so, so glad we got to get to this moment after getting that one.
@phoenixgrrrl
@phoenixgrrrl 3 жыл бұрын
I agree the music in this episode is fantastic. The song during the final battle *chills* every time. All of the Buffy soundtracks are amazing including Christophe Beck's instrumental soundtrack.
@spikejr3113jr
@spikejr3113jr 3 жыл бұрын
Spike saved the day. now any girl who might be a slayer is a slayer. Now there is only Angel season 5. you have now seen my favourite spike moment of “I love you” “no you don’t, but thanks for saying it”
@rotru4977
@rotru4977 3 жыл бұрын
I'm already crying just like I have been for the past almost 2 decades of watching this show! Thank goodness for one more season of Angel.. dulls the pain momentarily
@em8066
@em8066 Жыл бұрын
It's been so fun re-watching this series with you two. I enjoyed your insights and I felt the feels with you. I read that Sarah and James had a hard time getting the right tone for their final scene and Joss really had to coach them to show a loving moment. Joss thought he got the right expression from Sarah finally, but she said she wasn't feeling it. Which is perfect because it allows various interpretations from the audience - even differing between repeat viewings. Some are steadfast that Buffy loves Spike then, especially since that's how Joss intended it, and that can be beautiful. Others believe it was more like an expression of forgiveness and that Spike had the wisdom to see it wasn't love, but he was fully reciprocating the acceptance of Buffy and loved her regardless. Which is so poignant. If they'd had more time together, after a few years of Buffy getting baked (lol) and Spike continuing to mature/find himself independently of Buffy's shadow, then I could wholeheartedly believe in them loving each other. Not a fan of the regressive direction Angel season 5 took Spike's character, but eh, I never really watched that show anyway. ;)
@michelledion8847
@michelledion8847 2 жыл бұрын
I was in 7 th grade when this show premiered and I was obsessed from the beginning. I love watching other people watch this series with the same passion and sense of humor 🤘🏻 You guys rock. Seriously;)
@seanthomas3091
@seanthomas3091 3 жыл бұрын
Buffy jumped off the bus without the Scythe. Did she leave it on the roof of the bus? lol. I made this comment elsewhere, but from during the end scene, Faith walks from left to right in the background as if metaphorically trying to find her place among the Scoobies, only to eventually find her place at Buffy's right hand; Buffy's only equal and second-in-command. Buffy finally found her peace and Faith finally found the validation and the position she's always wanted - to be close to Buffy.
@FANTHEORYTV
@FANTHEORYTV 2 жыл бұрын
I just assumed she tossed it down a window somehow, haha!
@willE84
@willE84 3 жыл бұрын
In "Showtime", when Buffy said "I always find a way"...that's when it it really hit me what an icon she was. Such a truly inspiring character and it was a an amazing experience watching her evolve over the years. I want to say thanks to Kyle and McKenzie. The last couple of years have been shit for all of us. Losing myself in my favorite youtube accounts has honestly been like therapy for me, and Fan Theory has DEFINITELY been among my favorite channels! Looking forward to watching you grow.
@FANTHEORYTV
@FANTHEORYTV 2 жыл бұрын
DJ... thanks man. Really. I'm so happy that we could provide a form of community and comfort to you all this time. :-)
@m8walsh
@m8walsh 2 жыл бұрын
I know its only a little thing but the throwback to the four of them in the corridor wasnt actually the end of the 1st episode because that ended on the cliffhanger of Buffy in the crypt with Luke - it's actually at the end of The Harvest which is episode 2
@ernesthakey3396
@ernesthakey3396 Жыл бұрын
As a "to be continued" two-parter, some folks think of it as a single long series premier. :) But yeah...
@toml2354
@toml2354 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome show guys! Thank you for giving us the best reactions on KZfaq and something to look forward to during these lockdowns!
@chettterbob
@chettterbob 3 жыл бұрын
there were two spin offs that almost happened. 1. spike and faith. thats why we get a few good scenes between them towards the end, the producers were testing the waters and seeing how they got along, but Eliza decided to say no to it and focus on a movie career so it didn't happen. 2. the Giles spin off 'Ripper' was going to be old man Giles talking about his young life as Ripper and would focus on that... don't know why it didn't end up happening but as far as I know nothing was ever shot. for both it's a shame they never happen, would have been awesome to see :(
@anthony3557
@anthony3557 3 жыл бұрын
I’d read that the Giles spin-off was to have been centred on him investigating hauntings and the like in England. It sounded like it could have been incredibly atmospheric - more creepy than necessarily scary - but apparently Mutant Enemy couldn’t reach an agreement with the BBC, so the idea was dropped.
@FANTHEORYTV
@FANTHEORYTV 3 жыл бұрын
There was definitely supposed to be a “Slayer Academy” (or something to that effect) that Fox intended to make, but it never got much traction due to the lack of interest from Alyson Hannigan.
@chettterbob
@chettterbob 3 жыл бұрын
@@FANTHEORYTV oh interesting! hadn't even heard of that one! huh
@Buffy8Fan
@Buffy8Fan 3 жыл бұрын
Last episode of BtVS 😢 I think Buffy asking Angel outright what was so great about their relationship is her putting a stop to any issues they have always had in the past because she is realizing it wasn't great. I think Willow being validated would be dangerous because as of her nifty line and Kennedy praising her as a goddess, that is the first time Willow has been trustworthy with magic. The First exists as long as evil is somewhere in the universe. That is how I see it. Unkillable. Looking at Spuffy from S2x03-S7x22, I believe Buffy does love Spike at this point, but it is too new on her side to be believed by Spike. She started realizing it in S5 (and he was also soulless at that point), but then she became depressed over her death/resurrection before Spike received a soul and she, during S7, realized her feelings all over again for Spike with a soul instead of without one. Buffy did love him, but only said it because there wouldn't be another chance to do so. Actions scream louder than words when it comes to that emotion. And her actions say that, for her, it is true, but new, as well as something she herself is still processing because it is no longer that of a teenager who just assumes being horny and in a relationship means so, thus back to why she asks Angel what was so great about the Bangel romance. She spares Angel the truth in outright saying she loves Spike, but then tells Angel the truth in that "[Spike's] in her heart." Which is further along and more healthy than Buffy has ever been in terms of romance. Not to mention Spike doesn't want Buffy to die and she is the type of person who might have stayed if he didn't tell her she didn't love him. Xander and Anya's romance never felt like he cared about her the way he always claimed to. Watching Anya over the seasons I believe she learned to love him despite his issues, where as he never seemed invested in anything other than being in a relationship. Which is why I think his words to Andrew weren't as sweet as they would have been if he did care the way he claimed. I've never heard that Anthony Stewart Head shot episodes of Ripper before. Faith was supposed to get one also, but Eliza Dushku chose to do _Tru Calling_ instead. Most of the plotlines that were going to be in those failed to greenlight shows were put into the comics.
@FANTHEORYTV
@FANTHEORYTV 2 жыл бұрын
I'm going to miss you so much Buffy8Fan! You always say what I think deep down. ❤️
@Buffy8Fan
@Buffy8Fan 2 жыл бұрын
@@FANTHEORYTV Still have AtS S5. 😁😉
@rodolfoceballos6278
@rodolfoceballos6278 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you both for an amazing journey! I came to this channel late, but it was incredible watching this show through your eyes and falling in love with it again! Thank you for the time, effort, and love you put into it! I got my Slayerverse hoodie!
@MackenzieRayneActress
@MackenzieRayneActress 3 жыл бұрын
🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰😁🥰🥰😁🥰 Thank you!!!
@FANTHEORYTV
@FANTHEORYTV 3 жыл бұрын
What??!! Yay!! That warms our hearts more than you know! 😊❤️❤️❤️
@ML-gc9lh
@ML-gc9lh 3 жыл бұрын
@@MackenzieRayneActress I love watching first-timers watching my fav TV show! ❤️ It's been such an amazing ride, I can't wait for you to start season 5 of Angel, it's the best one imo (thanks to Spike returning from the grave lol). Are you going to read and react to the comics too? You'll love Spuffy there, I promise. They're in a real, healthy, loving relationship and all that.
@Figgy5119
@Figgy5119 3 жыл бұрын
I know Buffy had a plan, but these übervamps are tough even against slayers. I can't believe they didn't wear any kind of protective gear and deck themselves out in an arsinol of weapons. Especially for the non-slayer folks fighting the monks with sharp weaponry.
@melissaramato2237
@melissaramato2237 2 жыл бұрын
End of an Era. Wow, McKenzie & Kile! Thank you so much for Reacting to Buffy Verse. See you with Angel Reactions. Exciting, & Sad moments... Sunnydale sign, falls Spike is the last thing Buffy sez. Then the Sunnydale sign falls, last act from our dear Spikey... 🥀💀🥀🤘🏻🕯️ I believe Buffy really did love Spike but both didn't have time to face feelings over it. He really needed to get her to let go, 🔥👏🏻🔥& run. R.I.P, Spike's song, now the meaning is present before us. Cassy's last words to Spikey, "ONE DAY SHE'LL TELL YOU." IS IN THE NOW, Where Buffy tells Spike finally that she loves him. It is a too late for this, situation. Spike relieved to hear the sentiment, but can't respond, properly, tries to ignore Buffy's realization. In the only way possible, that will make her leave, before she too is passionately all consumed, by the flames, that burn thru him, & finally take him. Buffy doesn't want to leave him, but she shakes it off, & heads out of the Hell mouth, & jumps to the already driving away school bus... Kile & McKenzie, Now Once more with feeling has come full cycle. Circle & for all the Characters, now we realize, each songs true fatalistic messages, we can go back to those moments, & catch the down fall of each Character's sad arcs, & meaning, up to Chosen's Finally. Way back then, the Writers knew, how they planned out the end of the show... Buffy now has the revaluation that she is no longer the 2nd to only Slayer anymore, & leave it to the First, to have given her the idea on how to remedy the One in every Generation, Slayer line. Spike too, tells Buffy she's the One. Buffy states to him, I don't want to be the One...🤦🏼‍♀️🙍🏼‍♂️💗 Spike also knows what he is willing to do, to help for his past, Evilles, he's done, & for the young woman he has truly grown to respect, admire & care about, after getting his Soul. & Finally get's to Destroy Sunnydale, in the process, & make one last attempt, to make the Sunnydale sign fall, into the Crater, before everyone. Buffy's erry grin, as the sun set approaches the Scoobies, Wood, & An & the lasting Slayer's on the bus... We bid a sad, sad fare well¿ To all of them. & Buffy Reactions from Fan Theory. Thank you guy's. The Buffy Vid games, are old school tricky, but Soo much fun!! 🌙🌙🙋🏼‍♀️🧛🏽‍♀️🧛🏻‍♂️ 🧟‍♂️GRRURGH I DEFINITELY NEED A HUG, NOW!!" 👩🏼🧑🏼🥀🕯️💀🕯️💗 😢😵😞🐶💗🤘🏻NIGHT, friends, & All the Fangdom. 🤘🏻🔥💗🔥🌙🌙 💗🌎💗✨🕯️✨🎭🤘🏻
@dakota7314
@dakota7314 3 жыл бұрын
I wasn't reaadyyy!! How have I fallen "in love" with you two after only discorvering you a while ago??! Def will have to check out your other work. Thank you!!
@FANTHEORYTV
@FANTHEORYTV 3 жыл бұрын
Aww, thank YOU. ❤️❤️
@blacktronlego
@blacktronlego 2 жыл бұрын
Anya's death was rather understated, when it actually happened was over really quickly and even the shot of her corpse was not there for long. 19:34 Well, he did say he would surprise her! I've not read the comics, so have no idea what happens in canon. In my head Faith and Wood go to Africa to find slayers, Xander becomes a watcher and starts a slayer training school in Cleveland.
@therocpd
@therocpd 3 жыл бұрын
I think all the viewers just wanna give you both a great big hug after that reaction
@FANTHEORYTV
@FANTHEORYTV 2 жыл бұрын
We want to give you several great big hugs in return! thank you...
@davidedwards1705
@davidedwards1705 2 жыл бұрын
12:12 He questioned Faith's "skills" She can't let that go. I love it. She certainly is Not Buffy. 16:16 Let s close our eyes for an unsung hero Anya Christina Emmanuella Jenkins; An, The Parton Saint of Scorned Women, Anyanka, Aud, may she rest in peace.
@xenosaga8436
@xenosaga8436 3 жыл бұрын
It's hard to believe this show is over. It makes me even more excited to see the end of Angel. I've loved every minute of these reactions. Mackenzie's theories are entertaining and more times than not surprisingly accurate and Kyle gives just enough of a hint of what's going on to help her make those theories. Keep up the great work and I'll see you when the Angel reactions return!
@MackenzieRayneActress
@MackenzieRayneActress 3 жыл бұрын
💕💕
@Oxmustube
@Oxmustube 3 жыл бұрын
Xander saying it was stupid was a shot at Andrew. Also Andrew lying about Anya being courageous and Xander not calling him out on it said a lot.
@DrawingPicture
@DrawingPicture 3 жыл бұрын
I love the cookie monologue. It tells that it might be the ending of this show but she is still so early in her life. Still finding out who she is and that's okay. I don't know if I know any other show with a better ending - I just love it!
@MackenzieRayneActress
@MackenzieRayneActress 3 жыл бұрын
It's beautiful!! I go on a huge love tangent for this monologue on Patreon!
@jrewing1512
@jrewing1512 2 жыл бұрын
Watching them touch hands was amazing.
@cameronlapp9306
@cameronlapp9306 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the show! This helped me get though 4 months of pandemic unemployment :)
@FANTHEORYTV
@FANTHEORYTV 2 жыл бұрын
Yay! We LOVE hearing that we helped people out through anything--especially that!
@alexh8613
@alexh8613 3 жыл бұрын
One thing that I always hated about the finale, was that there wasn't any build up to Willow casting the spell that made all potentials into slayers. Buffy just said to do it and Willow did. It literally comes out of nowhere. Now compare that to season two's finale, where Willow casts the spell to reensoul Angel. It's a 5 month process. First Buffy says to Jenny to curse him again, but before Jenny can bring Buffy to her uncle, Angelus has killed him. Then Jenny creates a whole computer algorithm to translate the text and using the Orb of Thesula. This gets the shopkeeper killed by Drusilla and then Angelus kills Jenny right after she translates the curse but before she could tell anyone. When the gang finally does find the translation, Kendra is killed and the gang gets their butts kicked. Then Willow tries again and it finally works but Buffy still has to kill him. Now compare that to the season 7 finale. Buffy out of nowhere just says this is going to happen and it does.
@menachemsalomon
@menachemsalomon 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Kyle and Mackenzie, for allowing us to share your experience watching _Buffy the Vampire Slayer._ It has been, to quote Faith, "quite a ride."
@colecrouse754
@colecrouse754 3 жыл бұрын
Anya has said several times throughout the show that staying and fighting evil instead of running is "stupid." She even did so in the penultimate episode.
@user-mc9gy1ue5n
@user-mc9gy1ue5n 2 жыл бұрын
Buffy really loved Spike and was proud of him in the final scene.
@seanthomas3091
@seanthomas3091 2 жыл бұрын
Spike is in Buffy's heart. That doesn't mean she's in love with him. She's not. She said it more than once, and he acknowledged it. Fan theories don't count lol.
@user-mc9gy1ue5n
@user-mc9gy1ue5n 2 жыл бұрын
@@seanthomas3091 In their hearts, people always keep those they love.
@cruzinbosco
@cruzinbosco 3 жыл бұрын
God, the "double Buffy" just flashed me back to Ringer. lmao
@mandyhuey5810
@mandyhuey5810 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao that show was ridiculous but I couldnt help but like it for SMG
@cruzinbosco
@cruzinbosco 2 жыл бұрын
@@mandyhuey5810 Not gonna lie. I watch it like once a year. I know the entire cast so well and I love crazy soapiness, so it's a guilty pleasure. :D
@mandyhuey5810
@mandyhuey5810 2 жыл бұрын
@@cruzinbosco hahah no shame in that! I definitely didnt hate it. I haven't watched it since it came out though. I'll have to find it and revisit it sometime.
@desarae9778
@desarae9778 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Kyle, Mackenzie and Lauren for taking us on this journey with you! Buffy is my favorite series and I love watching others fall in love with the story and characters that inhabit this world. Your reactions have been wonderful and I cannot wait to see Mackenzie's reactions to Angel season 5.
@FANTHEORYTV
@FANTHEORYTV 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! 😊❤️
@mlkj13
@mlkj13 3 жыл бұрын
Loved your Buffy commentary. Thanks for letting us go on this journey with you both.
@FANTHEORYTV
@FANTHEORYTV 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for joining us on it!
@Isacius
@Isacius 3 жыл бұрын
Love your reactions and the serie you made, always looked forward to it as in «oooh what would she think about this?». I always found the send of of Spike was one of the best and the way he says is so good acting too. Cause you can feel it at least in my opinion. I also found the finding of the axe (at least for me) and so on a bit like a deus ex machina.
@DegrassiInstantStar
@DegrassiInstantStar 3 жыл бұрын
We were NOT ready for this day to come... for the CHOSEN day to come!
@jasminerodriguez3245
@jasminerodriguez3245 3 жыл бұрын
Lovely reaction! This still makes me cry 😭 Congratulations! You did it!!
@nagillim7915
@nagillim7915 2 жыл бұрын
And now, 20 years later, it's time for Andrew to learn why he survived by becoming the Watcher of Faith and Robin's daughter Buffy, the Last Vampire Slayer... I wish...
@xenbuff
@xenbuff 3 жыл бұрын
Ok...watching you guys watching the last episode, hurt. I want to keep seeing you both!!! It's enough that we won't get to see Buffy, Willow, Xander and Giles anymore.
@FANTHEORYTV
@FANTHEORYTV 2 жыл бұрын
Sending hugs... care of two blubbering appreciative fans of you.
@phoenixgrrrl
@phoenixgrrrl 3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on your journey watching and reacting to Buffy!
@NoThankUBeQuiet
@NoThankUBeQuiet 2 жыл бұрын
I think at the end everyone is just kind of regrouping. More mourning/processing will happen as they move on. They still have to find a hospital ect. But they at this point take a second to look and see if they completed their goal. This is their counting the ducks and being sure that they succeed. Like I can't imagine they (especially Xanxer and Giles) don't mourn Anya more but they just got out of near certain death.
@matthewleonmartin
@matthewleonmartin 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you both so much for this. I've followed these videos going all the way back to the days of Kyle and Lauren. Been a Buffy fan for over twenty years and I've loved revisiting the show along side you. Looking forward to finishing Angel with you next. Now if we can only get Passion of the Nerd to work faster!
@FANTHEORYTV
@FANTHEORYTV 2 жыл бұрын
Haha! Thanks so very much!
@FANTHEORYTV
@FANTHEORYTV 2 жыл бұрын
And thank you for being a support to us since the Lauren days!
@erincairns1587
@erincairns1587 3 жыл бұрын
Aaww man last ep of buffy, you guys are the saving grace of my monday nights at work xxx looking forward to reactions of angel season 5, but damnit its upsetting that you've finished xxx thank you for your reactions xxx
@davidhope1
@davidhope1 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the reactions, they’ve been fantastic. Can’t wait for Angel season 5
@lexlarae8466
@lexlarae8466 2 жыл бұрын
I am going to miss this. I love you guys together.
@FANTHEORYTV
@FANTHEORYTV 2 жыл бұрын
Sending hugs your way. I might cry a little.
@afry6400
@afry6400 3 жыл бұрын
Good gods y'all... watched this series a dozen times and I'm as soppy as that lot of you... Hope you all enjoyed the show.
@cameronlapp9306
@cameronlapp9306 Жыл бұрын
I think this rewatch is the first time I really clocked Spike's "It's really there" and what that means.
@sheltondaal6425
@sheltondaal6425 3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations to you both! Especially considering the recent update on how hard managing this channel has been you guys should definitely take the time to pat yourselves on the back. I only found this channel while I was looking for Buffy reacts in the peak of pandemic boredom and ended up watching the vast majority of your reactions and having a thoroughly great time. You guys should definitely do a Buffy series reflection/ review or perhaps even a Buffyverse reflection/ review after you're done with Angel Season 5 cause we all love hearing your takes on these characters and stories.
@FANTHEORYTV
@FANTHEORYTV 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, we intend to do just that, actually. 😊
@FANTHEORYTV
@FANTHEORYTV 3 жыл бұрын
Also, thank you so very much for the kindest of words. 😊
@Danteurus
@Danteurus Жыл бұрын
17:02 Spike Becomes Effulgent
@lazarusalastair
@lazarusalastair 3 жыл бұрын
Buffy has been and always will be my favorite TV show ever. It’s been fun watching you guys react to the show, hear your thoughts and opinions. Of course there is Angel as well. Still one more season left and then the Slayerverse is officially over. P.S. Don’t let Mackenzie watch the opening credits for the first episode of Angel season 5. Let THAT moment be a surprise
@FANTHEORYTV
@FANTHEORYTV 2 жыл бұрын
You'll see... I did not.
@XNSever
@XNSever 3 жыл бұрын
1:11 when Kyle quotes the show without realizing it
@billielith
@billielith Жыл бұрын
Great series, possibly the best of all times, and yours is one of the best reaction series too. Thanks for it all! ❤️
@danilopapais1464
@danilopapais1464 3 жыл бұрын
Yay, I can't wait to see Lauren again. BTW, i had a deck once for the Buffy trading card game ("Wish Deck" named after the episode with first lasting appearance of Anya) and was said I never found a group playing the Buffy RPG.
@blotcho84
@blotcho84 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats on reaching the finale! It's been a great ride! :D
@enasbassiony7676
@enasbassiony7676 2 жыл бұрын
I have no Idea how you missed all the signs on how Buffy was so in love with Spike since S6 but somehow you did I mean, I get some people not liking it, but not seeing it is a whole different thing 😄
@franksnow5165
@franksnow5165 3 жыл бұрын
Hit or miss episode, medium good as it has a lot to tie up. Of note, the cookie-dough speech; waiting for the right moment is the enemy of movement. Also, the Buffy character's self-destructive taste in men on full parade.
@ald7248
@ald7248 Жыл бұрын
Willow was an amazing character - but the handling of her spell was silly. It had been a prevailing theme for the past 2 seasons that magic extracted a heavy toll on the user and I think it should have been written that Willow needed to willingly sacrifice herself in order to cast a spell of that power. The emotional impact of that would have blown away the loss we felt for Spike & Anya.
@WSK9002
@WSK9002 2 жыл бұрын
Something I wanted to know for years, if I ever interact with any of the "Buffy The Vampire Slayer" producers, I want to ask them this question if the show never left The WB, would this finale, be exactly the same or would it have been different? Rumor and Innuendo: Sarah Michelle Gellar's contract was set to end in Season 7, regardless of what network "Buffy The Vampire Slayer" was on and SMG wasn't interested in extending her contract. I honestly think the majority of the cast were ready to move on as well, I believe the narrative over the years, SMG wanted the series to end, but really a lot of people were ready to call it a day. "Buffy The Vampire Slayer" was not a simple show to shoot.
@WSK9002
@WSK9002 2 жыл бұрын
The night of "Chosen" when Buffy got stabbed, my first thought, I will never forget this: "Not again!" :0)
@ActingHerReaction
@ActingHerReaction 3 жыл бұрын
I always felt anya should've died protecting an unknown potential because she called them cannon fodder. For her to risk her life for unknown human after spending seasons trying to understand what it means to be human...would've been great.♥️ Especially considering all the blood on her hands...she probably did need to die. Her and Spike. Getting their hero end would've been lovely
@painlord2k
@painlord2k 2 жыл бұрын
She died because the actress wanted out of the character
@charg1nmalaz0r51
@charg1nmalaz0r51 Жыл бұрын
@@painlord2k Well seeing as this was the last episode any of the characters would be in that theory doesn't make any sense whatsoever lol
@WinterOnTheWeb
@WinterOnTheWeb 3 жыл бұрын
Great finale. Nice to see a lovely reaction to a beautiful moment of TV from my past. You two have Slayed over the seasons together and I just wanted to say thanks. Anya's death, I think, is a callback to the comment earlier in this season that there are always casualties in war and they're almost always just an end to someone's story, there's no fanfare or poignant moment as someone cries walking away from the body - war is cold and un-heroic. That's the counterpoint to the heroic death of Spike: Anya's sacrifice is no less important and even more sad but it seems more real (and so makes us uncomfortable - which I think is super important in a show that always tried to show that war is not Glory (sic) but actually something harsh and thankless). *hugs* and thanks again!
@zenithquasar9623
@zenithquasar9623 3 жыл бұрын
I love the concept of this ending so much!
@pampukin
@pampukin 3 жыл бұрын
As for the Giles spin-off series, I don't know anything about a television series but if you keep reading the comic, Giles has something happen to him and that causes a Angel/Fate/Giles spin-off comic. There's a Buffy continuation after the last episode of Buffy and there's a continuation of Angel after its last episode. They mix and merge and eventually come to the Angel/Fate/Giles spin-off comic.
@9ansean
@9ansean 3 жыл бұрын
Okey I've already written a lot but just two more things. I think the fitting final summary of the impact of Buffy the Vampire Slayer came from Willow in the end. When Xander says we saved the world she adds: "We changed the world." Finally I what to thank you both for inspiring me to finally go back and watch the whole series in entirety, revisit the episodes I either had watch or only partially watched years before with fresh eyes, and watch all of Angel for the first time. It's been more than an amazing look back at my own youth to see what's changed and what's said the same both in genre fiction and the real world it springs from. You guys have been wonderful in getting me through some hard times and providing lots of cool ideas to geek out about. I'm enjoying a lot of other reaction filled youtube channels right now and if you guys really were one of the firsts, you should defiantly be proud.
@FANTHEORYTV
@FANTHEORYTV 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! We were, but I'm sure we just thought the same thing around the same time.
@bikertrash64babe
@bikertrash64babe 3 жыл бұрын
thank you even tho i have seen every episode i so enjoyed watching it again with you both
@randomlibra
@randomlibra 3 жыл бұрын
Noooooooooooooooo!!!! It had to come. Going in on the last one with you guys (Last Buffy anyway). I think I'll be joining patreon to watch the final season of Angel with yall :)
@koreygeren2677
@koreygeren2677 3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations Kyle, is this the first series of reactions you've completed? Congratulations Mackenzie - ONE OF US, ONE OF US, ONE OF US. Although I'm still a little sad you guys didn't dress in formal wear way back in "The Prom". Remember that? lol
@FANTHEORYTV
@FANTHEORYTV 2 жыл бұрын
We will never forget! We wore it actually for the final episode of Season 3!
@MartinGonzalez-ke9uy
@MartinGonzalez-ke9uy 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you guys for your reactions, i didnt follow you from start , but i think ill rewatch your reactions :)
@FANTHEORYTV
@FANTHEORYTV 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Martin! We appreciate that!
@Elisheval
@Elisheval 3 жыл бұрын
I was having a really bad day, this made me feel better.
@FANTHEORYTV
@FANTHEORYTV 2 жыл бұрын
😢. good.
@kendavis8046
@kendavis8046 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the ride, folks. You made me tear up with the shout-out!
@FANTHEORYTV
@FANTHEORYTV 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ken, we’ve been through this with you too and we’ve always felt your presence throughout the journey. It’s not going to be the same, but it’s definitely not over just yet.
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