I’m money deficient so I’ll have to wait 😭

i dont think wood was faking the death i think he was really unconscious ad angel being jealous - i dont think he would be (as much) jealous if it was someone else than spike "the earth is definitely doomed!"

So what's next for reactions, Battlestar Galatica 🤔

Of all there was to unpack here, do you see now why I kept sticking up for Buffy’s army? Never once called the “Potentials”, they’re slayerettes now. Slayer-lights, Diet Slayers. A lot fell, and yeah, the cute one died (she was my favourite to) but she needed all of them. But I could only say so much with letting the cat out of the bag! And that one scene, where all the potentials activate; young girls around the world, finding within themselves that they had real strength (real power) hidden deep inside themselves the whole time.. Whether to it’s to step up to the plate to knock one out of the park, or stand up for themselves & never face abuse ever again; to overcome every fear, every doubt, to become literal goddesses that walk this earth... That scene taught me everything I needed to know about the very best of what feminism can be. It did kinda sting to come to learn it was all so much “lies (my) parents told me” all these years later. But that moment holds true just the same. I promised you bud, “I’m going to see how this ends”. There’s no words for goodbye in the Cree Native Canadian Culture, no such thing in my culture. “Safe Travels” you’ll see me around again. Even if you notice I’ve completely disappeared some day (it’s not like any of us are getting any younger, right?), mysteriously so in fact.. I’m sure you’ll see me around, this world or the next, ya? Hey.. there was a reason it was nice taking this tour again for the first time meant so much to me. Don’t make a big deal of it okay? Going anywhere any time soon isn’t exactly Plan A. Just saying, you made this old man laugh & smile & even cry at times. You even kept me sane when going crazy just seemed like the logical thing to do. And all I could do is say thank you. Maybe this will explain a little more as to why. Again, don’t worry about it; happens to the best of us eventually. Until next time.

@Liam Duke Oh no!I had a big unforeseen event and I missed the live... :( Liam, during the live on Monday, you told us that someone had revealed the death of a character. Now I can ask you: which character was it? (maybe you say it in this video, but I still don't understand enough spoken English) Thank you so much for everything you gave us during these 7 seasons!!!

Three times the charm. 🙃

..Because slayers have the gift of prophecy yes; and most of us watched Passion of the Nerd too.. 😁😉😎

@@locomadman Cassie wasn't a potential.

@@locomadman It's very clear foreshadowing. She wasn't a slayer; she was just somehow clairvoyant.

Cassy wasn't a slayer, was she? She was just clairvoyant. And PotN has nothing to do with anything.

@@Naly7Angel I might have gotten his review confused. Names I’ve never been good with. But PotN mentions all the things; like the Sunnydale sign getting killed by Spike one last time (posthumously, even), Buffy getting “touched by the fire” finally. But I think I remember now, Cassie was the one played by.. Azure Sky, right? Can’t forget the actor’s name, a unique as it is. But I forget my own age from time to time. You’ll have to forgive me.

And how rewatchable it is!

Both. Do both

A thing isn't beautiful because it lasts.

I grew to love Andrew so much!

@@bridie1824 me too which is an amazing testament to the writers' abilities because just a season ago we hated him for all the evil he did. So if a human can redeem himself and be accepted by the Scoobies then why not Spike?

Funny how we didn't mind him lying this time.

@@Oxmustube What do you mean lying? Last I remember he was about to be killed and she stopped the one that tried to kill him and then ended up getting killed as a result.

@@Heldemon I don't think so but if you saw it that way, I won't argue.

You are the absolute shit, clam; truly brilliant observation, outstanding!! 10/10, top marks! I can’t believe that flew under my radar all these years. That 100% one of the most clever comments I’ve read so far (and I’ve read them all up to here, up to now). Well done, I cannot stress that enough.

Just kill me

Thanks, I missed that! Liam was right. There is Cookie-dough icecream. To be reasonable, I think this scene is part of the writers wanting to make that reference. To be more unreasonable maybe Buffy makes that far fetched analogy because she does, to some extent, remember.

@@erikohman2294 wow.. that is a very beautiful thought.. I'll take that one with me 😘

Yes!!! My thought exactly! He definitely thoughts of that in that moment...

Deep man. Deep. I got nothing else to say about that, there’s no words. I forgot about that. Quite frankly, I wouldn’t have got it back then.

Are you kidding? He just couldn’t resist getting in one last dig at her, that was their dynamic. He was just using her words against her as if to say, “he kid, you’re stealing me line!” But there’s no way in hell he didn’t believe it. She didn’t even need to say it, and he’d have died with just as big of a smile on his face. It was undoubtedly nice to hear though.

That's nice to hear. I have my doubt. She loves him but...there was always a question. Their relationship was amazing and reminded me of girls I've loved far more than they loved me in return.

"She'll tell you...one day she will tell you"

@@Nepthu ahhh! Totally get you. She loved him. And at the end, she knew he actually loved her too, she wasn’t prepared to even accept that. But at the end, she was surprised to find he truly did, even finally accept she did too. Just not that way. I’m not unfamiliar with unrequited love. There is always going to be the one that got away. Worse, I I actually got her; had to let her go even knowing she’ll always be the love of my life. She knows that too. In time, she came to understand I wasn’t what she needed me to be, not when she needed me to be it. Unlike spike, there was no one I can go to to make bargains with. Eventually, she came to forgive me. She’s still my closest friend. But I got luckier than most in that regard. I imagine you’ll get your opportunity, if not with your “her”, than with another. I have hope, for everyone in fact. Here’s hoping that time comes soon enough for you to enjoy it as much as the short time I spent with mine. But I gotcha bud. At least, I figure I do, you’ll have to correct me otherwise.

@@locomadman That just goes against what their whole s7 dynamic has been, though. He never believed that Buffy could truly love him, because he never felt he deserved it, especially after he got his soul. He thought she was just saying it because he was dying, to be kind and comfort him as he sacrificed himself. It's a moment where he's being genuinely sincere. Remember everything he said in Touched?

That's beautiful. Same.

Absolutely!

His reactions and commentary on The Walking Dead has also been enjoyable for me.

blood loss is a bitka in that way 🤣

Yeah he’s beat up

And then they all just left him there alone and bleeding in that bus to go stare at a big hole in the ground.

I agree! She got a really raw deal here. I don’t know if I buy the writing choice of Xander not crying, and then just cracking jokes two seconds later? That feels very out of character, and kind of like they didn't give Anya the weight she deserved. 🙃

I have never been able to be sad about immortals dying. Honestly, death is ac releif after all those years.

TBH that's the one part that feels like a plot hole to me. I know it's supposed to be empowering (and it is!), but nobody questions whether it's a good idea to just randomly give people super powers.

@@user-do2ev2hr7h we saw some ramifications of it in Angel

@@user-do2ev2hr7h This gets picked up in the comics

@@kimberlyjeanne9456Yes, but I thought it might be considered a spoiler to mention that here.

@@user-do2ev2hr7h that’s the price of magic, you mess with reality via magic, magic messes back three fold. Joss himself later admitted he learned hard to appreciate the limitations of tv kept him grounded, because once he went off reservation in season 8, the show too a hard left..

Liam got it right away; “What we going to do now, Buffy?” Anything she wants to. She’s saved the world, yet again. She set things up so the world should have been able to save himself. And in that... there was the one thing she didn’t have in a very long time, since coming back from the grave in fact; Hope.

“So you all face a choice. These are the rules, as set by men, a very long time ago, and this woman here-“, (Points to a very nervous looking Willow) “...had more power than all of them combined. So, are we finishing this right here, right now, are are we going to let the bad guys win?” She realized the ultimate decision was up to them, that they didn’t have to wait to be chosen or not chosen. They had to make that choice for themselves, because changing their minds after wasn’t an option, they were either all in or they were out.. ...But she realized she needed every one of them to make things work... ....then later when she’s willing to pass on the torch to faith when she’s near fatally wounded.... ...and finally, when she prepared to let others make the final sacrifice instead of taking it for herself.... That’s the moment when she completed her character arch, going from scared, insecure 16-year old girl child, to Major General of an army, leader amongst mankind... It was perhaps 100% pure fan service. And this was two years after we got the arguably better season 5 ending in “The Gift”. Were you there for that brief period when we know season 5 was wrapping up for series finale, but before it had been picked up on UPN? That was absolutely the worst, my heart literally skipped whole beats when I found out more Buffy was coming, that it wasn’t the end. It gave me time to be prepared when it was time to actually let it go. I loved & cherished 6 seasons of Buffy. And I even tolerate Season 1! But I would have missed a moment of it for the world. Or maybe I would, if that was what was required: Buffy taught me that too! It was everything I needed it to be any exactly the right time. Obviously, I still love this show.

same episodes I cry while watching every time

I’ve never watched ^ those episodes again. My heart can’t take it. But they were amazing.

The Body is pure, weaponized grief.

That’s a beautiful image. I’m not going to spoil it, would dare try. In fact, I’d prefer it to be true now too. Thank you.

This is the oldest show I can remember exactly where and when I was for the final episode. And it was the first that I specifically made sure I was able to watch the finale as it aired.

I have vivid memories of watching this episode when it was new my senior year of high school. As corny as it may sound, this show helped get me through some emotionally turbulent times as a adolescent and is one of the few things I liked back then that still holds up for me today.

Every hardcore fan feels like this. I had a break and for a long time I didn't think about Buffy but I'm back to it again! I remember I used to watch it so much as a child my dad nicknames me Buffy as a joke lol

You’re breaking my heart here! From one as a 22-yr old just getting out of a 5 year, relationship my first live in one, at that. Buffy got me through that hard time in my life. But to find so many rabid fans after all these years (in addition to having this having been organisms by someone just having watch this for the first time)... Puts a smile on this old man’s face. Thank you.

I saw the original movie in the theatre opening night. I never liked the movie, the show is what I thought the movie should have been. I love the show and have not stopped talking about it since it ended. I've watched Buffy and Angel 4X through. I got 6 people(2 Men,4 Women)to watch both series. I made my daughter watch the DVDs, she was to young 10, shame on me, but I wanted Buffy to be her role model, and she was. Buffy's the perfect woman. I always loved Angel, because being an older male, living a long hard road with some regrets, can make a person brood. One Halloween I had us dress up as Buffy and Giles, we both were the same body type and hair styles as the actors, I even wore the same glasses.I would walk behind her and in a very good english accent say "Buffy you've not completed your training." I've read and watched every Vampire story out there. The Darla/Angel/Drusillia/Spike story is my favorite vampire story.The Buffyverse is the best!

From scared teenaged girl to the Major General of an army, and leader amongst mankind... anything less is a tragic understatement. 😉

Agreed. I love that this season opens with, "It's about power." And what Buffy does with her power is share it. It's a beautiful message and she's such an inspiring character. I've never found a show I love as much as Buffy so yeah, same.

@@luciddreams7540 it’s funny, but believe it or not there’s actually some debate going on about that; whether it’s “sharing a gift that is their birthright” or “forcing burden & responsibility on others”. Now I know what side of the debate I lean towards, but I can’t out-right dismiss the other side of the debate either. It’s a compelling argument. Yet the Buffy had to make that hard call . And she asked the potentials she had following her what they thought. It was a “white elephant”; both a great gift & terrible burden simultaneously. But that’s why she’s major general making decisions for her army for the betterment of the world. I’ll have to get back to her. One question I have that never was answered; why aren’t there 3 slayers considering she died 2 times???

@@locomadman Wow. I haven't read the comics so I don't feel informed enough to say anything definitive on that debate. I do feel the finale's message is meant to be uncomplicated in the show, though. We've seen fellow heroes be corrupted by power (Willow) and use it to destroy (Faith), so it's inspiring that Buffy chooses to share hers. But it definitely can complicate lives. On the 3 slayers thing, think everyone just assumed the slayer line logic considers Buffy deceased, and only Faith's death could activate the next one.

@@locomadman Interesting - but this can be taken to its obvious conclusion that even having children is forcing burden & responsibility on others. Life is hard, deciding to give someone else life is therefore inflicting a burden without any type of consent. I can't agree. :) Being a slayer is like life - you still get to decide what you do with it for yourself. You are given the power, but no-one forces you to use it responsibly.

I actually watched Tangled yesterday and now I'm laughcrying! We all just need a hug 💙

😂😂😂

All evil needs to be beaten is any individual standing up & saying “No” one more time than evil can knock you down while saying “Yes”. That it, just one more time can save the world. Deep take, Kelly, deep take.

@@locomadman "If you can look at evil squarely in the face and say "You're evitable!" as Fred once said lol

When Jesus died on the cross he was stabbed in the side by a soldier, to make sure he was dead. Buffy gets stabbed in the side, and then passes the torch/scythe to Faith, the next in line. Then she rises again. I find it subtley Jesus-isch.

There is no Watcher's Council now!

The Council got all blowed up.💥🤣

The council all died

For the first time ever I noticed Xander went to the bathroom when he peeled off lol... Guess he followed his own advice before going to the Atrium

Giles represents the entirety of the council, he the last standing member. They even got it original records. This is why there’s there was nothing left to pull from in the future in the comic “Fray”.

Thank you! Can't wait to do a deep dive into your Angel reactions when I'm all done

The score always reminded me a little of Last of the Mohicans?

@@MrLorenzovanmatterho Wow that's a throwback! I barely remember that movie. But I do remember the feel of it, the sweeping music with the emotions of the action. hmmm, interesting

Yeah, that would have killed the pacing of those scenes and meant nothing to the people who watched Buffy but not Angel.

Like I said to the man, the big fella with his heart on his sleeve; it’s graduation day. I was almost proud of him, as much as I could be; he took takes this end of an era like a champ. Not going to lie, I had a box of tissues on standby in case he broke down, because if he got started, I’d get started; it’d get messy. I’ve had to crack into it while going through this comments section.

He just has to finish Angel s5 and that'll be enough.

Im just about to watch the finale! I hope he's as content with it as I was. Angel s5 will be a treat after this finale

@@shainatrotter7481 you just have to see, now won’t you? But if you need someone to geek over with it with you,46 hours later I’m still awake (over did it with tea)

Every time.

Oh shit I never thought of that! ):

At least their memories live on

It's actually a callback to S6 when Buffy want to go to the police for Katrina, Spike told her "I love you" Buffy said: "No, you don't" 🥺

Honestly same, when I'm having a really bad day I think of that speech and it gives me the strength to keep going.

Because they're arseholes? LOL Nah, I do like the fact he sacrificed himself for himself, in that he was doing it because he knew it was right and it wasn't all about Buffy anymore.

I think The Gift is a stronger episode but I love Chosen as the finale. I like that Buffy breaks the slayer cycle and instead shares the power. It's a more inspiring message.

@@MidnightBard That sums up my thoughts in the fewest words. Good comment.

5 was the better ending and would have been an acceptable way to put the touch stone on a great show. The next two seasons took the show to the next level, and gave us an ending that was perfectly pure fan service.

I feel like The Gift was better at plot closure and was a logical ending stopping point, whereas Chosen was better at thematic and character closure and was the better emotional ending.

@@abbynormal5913 like I said, pure fan service!😂 Seriously, you said it better. I had a slightly longer and more poetic version of this very same idea later on in the comments section, talking about how season 6 & seven were 100% necessary; to show us the worst evil doesn’t always come from monsters & to fully complete Buffy’s story arch. From scared teenaged girl to Major General of an army... I’m so glad it got picked up again.

Last 4 words... "I love you. Spike." ❤

I love it that Dawn has the last line

Or are you kidding? We'll wait and see!

"I want to save the world" Spike season 2. lol

What you were feeling there was real, but it’s more a reflection of not just understanding her own capabilities, which she had, faced death itself to earn the right. Rather, it was the full weight of having to be truly responsible for others; not just the Scoobies, they were volunteers. The rest were drafted. Whole new ball game, next-next level, ya know?

Spike’s death... was necessary to complete Buffy’s character arch. Good soldiers fall in every war, but Generals are needed to be the leaders the truly are. She needed to learn to accept someone else making the final sacrifice so that others may live. And Spike, well... there was an objective to accomplish, and he felt that he needed to atone for all he’s done. (He wasn’t exactly wrong, was he?) Anya; Joss admitted he felt guilty, and would change it if he could. But I think the girl who was so afraid to get old & die after a broken heart, that she became demonic to begin with, ultimately gave his life after finally regaining that humanity? It was... poignant. Not strictly necessary, but it meant so much!

Her last 4 words: "I love you. Spike."

'Weird' is an understatement. lol

Buffy's speech is one of my favourite things in TV, ever.

Me too! I didn’t even think about reaction channels until seeing Liam and ASR recommended to me. It seems us Buffy fans just find each other. :)

No way! Has it already been a year since Once More With Feeling? This all makes me so sad!

still get goosebumps at this line even now

Don't know if this is true but I believe it. Joss is a sick bastard. Quite funny that we as buffy fans have always said joss is heartless and sick for the way his shows go but we used to mean it in a different way than now lol

Agreed 💯

Your love clearly shows! Awesome to find people so passionate still. So please don’t take this the wrong way; as much as Spike fought for what he so rightfully earned, he was a monster that went bump in the night that made a deal with a devil because he was butthurt like a rejected lover (and honestly, if you ever meet Marsters in real tread real lightly on this as it really f****d him up) because he went too far & could see they were toxic for each other at that time... And wasn’t clear what he was asking for. He didn’t know he was getting his soul. His heart’s desire was to be the sort of man she needed, (which incidentally was what she wanted & deserved). Ergo; soul. It doesn’t undermine how hard he fought for it. And it makes the struggle of dealing with the consequences after even more impressive. But balance that with the knowledge that he was a soulless creature willing to do anything to get back at the one who hurt him. (And really, met the man; hearing him share that with me... Christ, it almost tore my heart right out of my chest & screwed me up a little too.) From one fan to another, thanks for you tribute here however. Keep the fandom alive, respect.

Loco Madman I can definitely see what you’re saying! And, there is definitely no excusing what Spike attempted to do to Buffy, in Season 6. I’ve seen and read interviews with James, about he hard that scene was for him to film- which shows me, that he is not only an amazing actor but, just an amazing human! I mean- truly a wonderful man! So, I definitely respect and accept your response! Especially considering, you’re taking what the actor himself, had to say about his character. Thank you for sharing that with me! It definitely makes me think quite a bit harder, about how I’ve felt about the whole Angel/Spike situation! Thank you sooooooo much!

@@tiffanycoates431 well that went over better than I could have possibly hoped, whew! What’s amazing is that despite that he’s still a little haunted, he loves the character as much as we do. To think. He wasn’t supposed to see past the episode he first appeared in! That would have been tragic indeed.

@Danii H I met Marsters, talked with him about this at length. He wanted to be “someone that’d never hurt her, someone she’d respect, someone that’d love him. By no means did he think he was fighting for to get his soul back, that was a Monkey’s Paw kinda prize. He just wanted to be loved by her, didn’t know he was getting a soul out of the deal.

@UCrEYcokIbp4GYakAvrYAXpw who said anything about how it was written in the meta sense? The writers had a clear direction, Spike himself did not, as I’ve discussed with Marsters. Further more, that was just some demon he went to; that was African death god.

My god, you’re right! I came for once more with feeling, then stayed for the body! The strength Liam shows in wearing his heart in his sleeve, I admire Liam for it. Truly. Beautiful tribute man. Most fitting.

He also fed before fighting with Buffy whereas all the ubervamps in this episode hadn’t.

@@sarahxo2317 true they've been starving for probably hundreds of years

Love this. Makes more sense of it.