The HorsePower guys use a Summit catalog to source all the parts they need for a budget-friendly, high performance smallblock engine build. We'll see what kind of dyno numbers they get from their little mail order monster.
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@youdig36913 жыл бұрын
I won that engine.. it's great too, still going after 12 years.. she's a beast on the street, it's awesome.. I never won ANYTHING before but now I have.. then I woke up
@modacare45463 жыл бұрын
They told me I won. Guess we’ll have to rock, paper, scissors for it.
@thomasstrawick9975 Жыл бұрын
@@modacare4546 mmmmm
@atularikamalsolomon2324 Жыл бұрын
Lol
@atularikamalsolomon2324 Жыл бұрын
I’ve got to win one too someday😊
@200horsepower Жыл бұрын
You really won that engine? That's the same engine need to build foe my 78 corvette lol
@albertgaspar6273 жыл бұрын
boy, y'know you're old in the game when this many folks watch this show and don't know these guys aren't on anymore and want to know when the contest is going on...:)
@modacare45463 жыл бұрын
Damnit I've been waiting 11 yrs for that motor...I was told I won.
@albertgaspar6273 жыл бұрын
@@modacare4546 send in your credit card information so they'll know your address, and they'll be sure to ship that right out to you :)
@zorlacrogue90322 жыл бұрын
Yeah dude one thing I do miss is not getting sent summit parts catalog, jegs and Doug Herbert😂✌️
@albertgaspar6272 жыл бұрын
@@zorlacrogue9032 I'm old enough we got JC Whitney...the WalMart of car parts :)
@kagesendo19992 жыл бұрын
Y'all don't know do you, oh dear, these guys are still on tv. It is not Powerblock tv any more, it is Powernation tv, and Joe Elmore (the older one) is the host of Detroit muscle. the Powernation youtube channel has most of their content, more up-to-date stuff on their website, and you can still watch on satellite or cable on NBCSN or Paramount, and stream through those two as well.
@jordandeangelo11183 жыл бұрын
I grew up watching these guys on shows in the morning as a kid and that’s what influenced my passion for cars. I learned more watching these shows then we did at school lmfao
@TheGuitarman19682 жыл бұрын
I can still remember back before the 90's (and public access to internet) when Summit Racing would not even ship to California due to the strict CARB smog laws in the state. We had to buy speed parts at the closest SUPER SHOP, or get them mail order from MIDWEST AUTO SPECIALTIES. I built quite a few motors and cars, with parts from both of those stores, back in the day. Does anybody else remember those places?🤔
@rosskrause3926 Жыл бұрын
Yes I do..I spent a lot at Super Shops in River Oaks Texas in the early to mid 80's before they closed up..I loved going there !
@ekitching Жыл бұрын
Yes I do. How about PAW? They were awesome, loved that warehouse in Chatsworth with that pretty C2 corvette on display along with some dragsters.
@themaintguy93662 жыл бұрын
I miss the days of watching these shows every Sunday morning. Even the days when it seemed like they played the same 5 shows every weekend. 😂
@ShannonpdpHammond-yy7yh2 ай бұрын
they are still on every weekend, i watch on freevee. powernation and motortrend show lots of stuff
@lawrencefoster21202 жыл бұрын
That was great that you showed the value of doing things ourselves. Thanks.
@LionWithTheLamb Жыл бұрын
Always check your clearances, even on pre packaged kits such as the one that they used.
@ringodog49759 ай бұрын
Do these kits come with a list of all the proper clearances?
@JONMEREDITH2 жыл бұрын
WHAT A KICK-ASS VIDEO!! Thank you very much. I just loved the engine work and the oil filter plant!
@marx7692 жыл бұрын
I've been watching these guys for years. They're great!
@baby-sharkgto49022 жыл бұрын
Anyone remember P.A.W.? Man I cherished those catalogs like they were the bible. Built some fantastic engines from those guys.
@jjsbluz60812 жыл бұрын
30 years before PAW, we used Speed-O-Motive. I built some nice $300 solid Manley Cam'd 289's went low 12's with their "Superstock" kits!
@jjsbluz60812 жыл бұрын
I guess Crate motors, Summit & Jeg's have used up all the "Oxygen" in the backyard motor builders domain!
@baby-sharkgto49022 жыл бұрын
@@jjsbluz6081 that's cool! I think speed o motive was long before my time
@dalebender772614 күн бұрын
Yup! Got a 351c from PAW... Good thing, they went outta business soon after. Still got some stickers to this day!!
@YellowBoy3053 жыл бұрын
I want that motor...& the mechanics 😂. Great build 👍🏾
@chefmike44143 жыл бұрын
Where was the part about the 383 giveaway, did I miss it? I wanna win that beast. Oh wait I just realized the video credits at the end said 2009 Damn!!
@RyanSteele923 жыл бұрын
Yeah I know this show is old when he said five grand for a zz 383 prices have increased drastically it's not worth building this motor for the price might as well go LS ..power for less money and work
@handyman33202 жыл бұрын
@@RyanSteele92 Why LS, Tesla motor now.
@easyeasely2 жыл бұрын
Joe was one of professors in college. Awesome professor!
@larrysouthern50982 жыл бұрын
This should be required veiwing and study by all basic highschool shop classes... Great video!!!! I loved those old. Haynes auto books I learned a lot from them!!!!
@saidufofanah22102 жыл бұрын
Man I wish I knew how to work on cars.
@stevenmetz53632 жыл бұрын
I still buy them books at 31 y/o. My dad was always recommending I get them for my cars.
@BK-wy4uj3 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial and parts info through summit.
@bradpetersen921263 жыл бұрын
My Plastiguage was frowning not seeing it used on the bottom end... 😜
@johnbehneman15463 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!! JUST WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR!!!!!MUST WATCH!!!! GREAT EDUCATION!!!!
@whirlwindcochran83613 жыл бұрын
That engine build is exactly the same as what I am looking to do to my 84 chevy Scottsdale that I got from my grandfather. One part at time right..it will get done.
@BuzzLOLOL3 жыл бұрын
Get more than 443 HP from that 500 HP cam...
@Hawkers022 жыл бұрын
Once my 305 goes, 350 or 383 inbound
@GreatLakesLogger2 жыл бұрын
@@BuzzLOLOL always that one guy
@BuzzLOLOL2 жыл бұрын
@@GreatLakesLogger - Mismatched parts don't produce the best engine...
@quienvega1542 Жыл бұрын
@@BuzzLOLOL always that one guy
@GT-432 жыл бұрын
Hmm, I'm intrigued with this exotic process of ordering parts to build an engine.
@nathanrice17962 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the oil filter part of the video too.
@robertclymer69482 жыл бұрын
Hi Guys! Very Impressive. Nice build and I love the cost factor. Would love to have that motor in a little Chevy Nova!
@stevenbohannon9563 жыл бұрын
Nice going guys always enjoy n get a lot of great info n tech from the videos yu both star in Great Show👍 later Rev
@michaelhill28443 жыл бұрын
I was hoping that "from scratch" would have started with you mining Iron and Aluminum ore. :(
@myownidenity49552 жыл бұрын
Aluminum ore is commonly called Bauxite. js
@flinch6222 жыл бұрын
Well... go whole hog: watch the bamboo grow thats needed to build the huts that will house the miners of said ore. Dedicate an entire channel, and put it next to c-span: the maximum boredom zone.
@katuhtonik Жыл бұрын
i have no idea what i just witnessed but it was great thanks guys i learned some things i'll never use
@ufcwescodmobile11993 жыл бұрын
i love this channel ! guys are beasts
@humancattoy77673 жыл бұрын
Sweet music to my ears.
@ramonrivera54672 жыл бұрын
It ran fairly good I like the power it through out
@lawrencefoster21202 жыл бұрын
That's nice that you give the answers to the why's.
@cheechnchong43472 жыл бұрын
Woohoo ....that would be a perfect fit in my '50 Chevy!!
@RozsaAmplificationLLC Жыл бұрын
I was gonna ask cost, but see it's called out at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="679">11:19</a> in and difference between ZZ383 + parts OR horsepower summit and difference = $5,840 v. $4,637 diff $1,202. WOW, have times changed as you could get this for about $800-1000 back in 1990 (32 years ago) and produce 400HP v. 440HP for this!!
@Schlipperschlopper Жыл бұрын
From 2030 on in USA and EU all gas engines will be banned due to Babvvo laws!
@peterchichitano9667 Жыл бұрын
Great build, did you degree the cam according to the manufacturer recommended install? Thanks
@lewisdeclouette63423 жыл бұрын
Man I love this show
@tuitonga78733 жыл бұрын
Great build!
@28tpi Жыл бұрын
That is a good little combo for the street.
@sixx6sixx1072 жыл бұрын
All its missing now is 14lbs of boost & a 1ton Pickup 😁
@yzScott Жыл бұрын
Time for the "How much power can we make with a catalog parts LS" episode.
@osoblizz79373 жыл бұрын
That's wild, the 331 and 347 sbf made mo powa baby.
@honeyridgehomestead3197 Жыл бұрын
A complete parts list would be nice. Is there a link?
@craigstewart15323 жыл бұрын
I built that engine for my 78 Blazer. The cam was a little milder and I stayed with a 600 cfm carb. It makes 400hp and about 450 torque.
@kyleolin35663 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a great setup. How well did it work for you.
@craigstewart15323 жыл бұрын
@@kyleolin3566 It's a strong engine. I put a 4l60 tranny behind it and 4:56 gears with 35" tires. It's really torquey. It's got an old Brodix aluminum head.
@kyleolin35663 жыл бұрын
With the cost of machining up here in Canada, I am thinking of taking thie route these guys used for an engine build. Just boring the cylinders here is $150 a hole! That’s not including a hot tank, and there is not equipment for a proper line bore, etc...
@craigstewart15323 жыл бұрын
@@kyleolin3566 Wow, 1200 just for the bore? Then you need all of the other stuff like decking and hot tank. I agree, you are better off buying a new engine.
@jasonveto23202 жыл бұрын
@@kyleolin3566 that's insane... what area of canada are you in? You should consider shipping down to Washington or Montana? When I got my straight 6 done a couple years ago it was less than half of that. I dont remember exact price, but I want to say it was about 80 bucks a hole.
@johnbehneman15463 жыл бұрын
I can build the complete engine myself. I just need help in understanding the piston rings. Getting the right gap before you attach them to the pistons. I need to learn more in this area, then I am ready to save my money. So I may buy and build in the future. Thank you so much!!!! I learned so much.
@Themothership902 жыл бұрын
I would love for you to work on my car. I want to learn from you guys so badly. Marvelous video
@jryer13 жыл бұрын
Awesome build. Love me some 383 stroker engine!
@BuzzLOLOL3 жыл бұрын
Start with a used SBC 350 and can prolly build a similar engine under $2000.00
@tomrose62923 жыл бұрын
@@BuzzLOLOL yea I went with forged internals but .040 over (385) 13.7 pistons solid roller cam 615/620 bump stick.its lots of fun . But i have that old problem with having to run race fuel ...don't get to drive it as much but it lets me appreciate it more when I do..about $3500 +or -check it out if ya want @ old ridge runner race truck on the tube
@BuzzLOLOL3 жыл бұрын
@@tomrose6292 - You were brave running that much compression with a .040" overbore... I checked it out, didn't think there was any sound at first but then things started happening... nice truck... reminded me of when I rowed my '65 GTO through all 4 gears with tires spinning and then it started shaking violently from side to side and I was afraid I wouldn't get it back under control and there were ditches on both sides of the road...
@tomrose62923 жыл бұрын
@@BuzzLOLOL well comp test says 210 psi.and it's a 1993 block made in mexico. My 68 block had 12.5 to 1s 185 psi it lifted the deck loose from the valley..both sides.a old friend of mine said looks like the jiggling pin come loose from the wobbling shaft.after a long laugh we just got another block of the shelf and started over.lol
@BuzzLOLOL3 жыл бұрын
@@tomrose6292 - Mexico blocks all 4 bolt, right?
@pedroorozco51363 жыл бұрын
This would be great for the Cutlass.
@georgeberndsen6352 жыл бұрын
Would be cool to see you guys build a marine 350 SBC
@rogermontee82642 жыл бұрын
Nice engine build!!!!!
@Firetech4129 ай бұрын
I grew up watching the power block shows. Breaks my heart they’re not on anymore. Jessi combs was my first crush lol.
@jonathanlawson46673 жыл бұрын
This is my exact build except I went with dart heads but they're the same cc and flow as those edelbrock heads and I'm at 403hp and 421torque on the engine dyno at the crank
@romper44442 жыл бұрын
So what do u think the difference is?
@subiemon3 жыл бұрын
i like the rb oil filter till i saw the flat spring they use , i will only use filters that have a coil spring in them keeps the filter working better longer..
@marcuslimbaugh45923 жыл бұрын
Great video.
@canyncarvr2 жыл бұрын
With an out-of-the-box crank and a new set of rods, how was rod side-clearance set? What was the matching process for rods-to-crank journal clearance(s)?
@HerculesRockefellerESQ Жыл бұрын
Probably sold as a matched kit, and comes numbered. That being said though, there's more measurements than ring gap (the only one they showed) needed when assembling an engine.
@tlegay90613 жыл бұрын
Could you please give a list of all part you bought at summit
@averymackey29662 жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter how you place your rings as long as they're roughly 120° separated. Once that engine starts spinning they're gonna move so don't worry about it
@justinstewart25042 жыл бұрын
Glad I’m not the only one who said something..
@ShortArmOfGod Жыл бұрын
Alignment doesn't matter, as the gaps will be aligned at some point as they are free to rotate.
@fuffoon4 ай бұрын
Nice build. And in 17 minutes. Yeah!
@arcorob3 жыл бұрын
This is great and I think answers a question for me (I think ) can you buy the parts like this and NOT have a machine shop balance the crank using the bob weight and such ? How much would it be off ?
@GreatLakesLogger3 жыл бұрын
No you should ALWAYS balance your rotating assembly. That said, there are a few people that sell entire rotating assemblies, but they are kinda pricey and you have to use their rings, bearings, etc.
@hayden60563 жыл бұрын
@@GreatLakesLogger in all fairness you should always be balancing the ring pack to and then include them in the counter weight number. Yes Robert you can buy pre balanced assemblies. But they usually don't balance them to what a performance machine shop does. Most pre balanced assemblies are +-1 gram. Which is much better then factory. Can have anywhere between +-4 to +-9 depending manafacturer and the engine. Most machine shops balance to +- 0.1 gram.
@GreatLakesLogger3 жыл бұрын
@@hayden6056 exactly
@johnnywalker640 Жыл бұрын
This is a balanced assembly
@turboboy0 Жыл бұрын
i always set my ring gaps for nitrous applications to be safe because i know myself. even if i think im just going to do a naturally aspirated engine, somehow they always end up with nitrous. i also port match everything and do a little "clean-up" on the ports. it may not do very much but it is free horsepower.
@smillish3 жыл бұрын
I like that engine!
@xXdarkcloud47Xx10 ай бұрын
Man I miss these guy I always wanted to be like them
@robertlittle29513 жыл бұрын
I can not find this block on summit's website? And a list of parts would be awesome too
@figgiefigueroa73723 жыл бұрын
I really need that engine for a 1967 chevy chevelle.
@ppatel87742 жыл бұрын
Good old days man I miss this
@Slingersbullseye Жыл бұрын
Idk what I stumbled on but I seen your name is gunpowder and gasoline, yeah you're alright:) in my book subbed no questions. I was looking at LS 1 budget build by hand. Great job!
@av8tore71 Жыл бұрын
So what is better a chain timing set or a gear timing set?
@neotheseattledj Жыл бұрын
im curious about the oil you use to break in the engine for the first run. what is special about it ?
@ralphvalkenhoff28873 жыл бұрын
Great to see the RP filter manufacturing
@peterhatch15832 жыл бұрын
My name is up and ready to put and pull my name out of that hat ! Why ! Just a great guy!!
@stevensanderson28179 ай бұрын
I miss looking through those old Summit and JEGS catalogs.
@superprettyko2 жыл бұрын
That small block would make my 69 NOVA move down the street just fine. Want it.
@milospuric90632 жыл бұрын
If I had enough money to go for such an expensive engine I don't I'd bother lowering the price from 6 to 5 grand Nice video btw
@markwoten6679 Жыл бұрын
What was the part number for the tool you used to set the valve lash?
@joshua6839 Жыл бұрын
I miss this show
@keithalbrecht47853 жыл бұрын
That motor be a perfect fit for my 92'Sonoma GT, That I have for 29yrs. Motor getting pretty tired, out with the 4.3V6 in with small block!!!!!!!!!!
@footz713 жыл бұрын
I would ls swap it.
@BuzzLOLOL3 жыл бұрын
Here you go: www.dailymotion.com/video/x3rfhrk
@xmo5523 жыл бұрын
I'd clone the Typhoon/Cyclone.
@infango3 жыл бұрын
heisenberg is now doing cars ?! cool ..
@graemetd463 жыл бұрын
Top build
@Supanova70 Жыл бұрын
well the felpro 1266 did not work i have deeper issues.. Great Vid. I have a fresh 355 with Dart heads that were from a circle track car. Heads were milled and i can see light on #8 intake through my victor Jr intake. My machine shop said to use washers on all 4 corners that equal gasket I'd. Then mold BB` model clay on all runners top and bottom. Slice in half and measure depth. Going to try tomorrow. Also china wall close but not hitting yet. Anything else i can try? Thanks. John
@robertcline9170 Жыл бұрын
Sure wish u guys were still on learned a lot from y'all
@mariocooldude9092 Жыл бұрын
Aaahhhhh the good old days 😂
@christianespinoza6594 Жыл бұрын
how would you know the value to tweak your timing without damaging anything?
@ollicron739711 ай бұрын
Man we flew through this stuff, lol.
@chriswest53602 жыл бұрын
What’s the rust inhibitor coating that they used for storage and shipping that they had to remove? I would like to get some for the engines, blocks, cranks, rods, heads (yes some people still use iron heads, whether it’s because the class doesn’t allow aluminum, or because there isn’t an aluminum head in your budget range that would outflow your current heads) and instead of coating them with lithium grease, or rust killer spray…
@michael931 Жыл бұрын
The classic is Cosmoline but there are plenty of others including Boshield and Fluid Film.
@carlmcdaniel56812 ай бұрын
Awesome video
@mgbchuck65273 жыл бұрын
SBC GOODNESS--like it
@galenyoung83492 жыл бұрын
Yea.... that little engine would be sweeeeeeet in my 96 4WD, S10 Blazer!! According to my research? Any oil filter is gonna be BETTER than a "FRAM", oil filter. If you've already given away my 383? Maybe yall have a 4.3 laying around thats; "ready, set, go?" Hook that up for me & I'll let you use the entire vehicle for a canvas. You can put whatever you like on the vehicle (paint/wrap), your choice,...... I will ROCK THAT stuff!
@roberthunter3734 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@grantellis30462 жыл бұрын
Pretty good numbers for 89 pump octane
@johnversluis3084 Жыл бұрын
wow how did you cast the blocks or heads ? That is from scratch
@SPEEDEMONR3 жыл бұрын
Hook me up that’s a damn good build guys
@davenevarez47383 жыл бұрын
Awesome.
@stevejohnson71323 жыл бұрын
It was an enjoyable video. One suggestion, when giving the cam specs it would be nice to know the lift.
@goBlue17763 жыл бұрын
Watch the video again, he did in fact state that it had 50 thousands lift
@stevejohnson71323 жыл бұрын
@@goBlue1776 that's not the lift, it's the beginning and ending of the lobe ramp.
@khrisyeet80223 жыл бұрын
They did. You just got to listen. They even show it in the catalog. 5:35 mark to be exact. If you need more help than that suck start a pistol and don't ever think about working on a car. I bet your a boomer.
@stevejohnson71323 жыл бұрын
@@khrisyeet8022 You must be miserable. But aside from that your post is nonsense.
@travisfisher28773 жыл бұрын
@@khrisyeet8022 lmao they never showed or said the valve lift. They said the duration is 234 at .050 lift. That’s not the lift!!! And the pic they showed of the same didn’t show the cam specs.
@nathanrice17962 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised they didn't use gapless piston rings. The leakage rate is 0-1% on those.
@bemhibbits41572 жыл бұрын
I want that Monte behind you in the opening shot.....
@isabellab6173 жыл бұрын
Which one would be cheaper to build and get around ±600hp and ±550lb/ft: SBC or LS?
@Santi240sxsti3 жыл бұрын
Imo it depends what it’s going in most guys in the import community use the ls because they don’t have to put a bunch of money into parts and make 400hp but if you do a sbc specifically the 350 you can make more than that
@antifreeze77893 жыл бұрын
LS is the cheapest bang for buck engine on the market today
@kellyjones334 Жыл бұрын
Some very good content
@logannaslund1057 Жыл бұрын
great power numbers for the price
@ckmoore1016 ай бұрын
This show has always been an enigma to me. Even after leaving out 99.999% of everything they do, what they do show, they show for about 2 seconds, then cut to someone talking about it for 10 more seconds. And then the writers feel that, even after considering their audience (gearheads), they feel its necessary to explain what pressfit means. Thats like Kardashians feeling it necessary to explain what eyeliner was to their audience. Plus, on top of all that, their projects are all sponsored with unlimited budgets.
@KingJT805 ай бұрын
The parts they're using on this engine is literally what most guys use in their backyard as blue collar working people I'd be using the same stuff on my 302 Ford so it's not very far-fetched
@ckmoore1015 ай бұрын
@@KingJT80 Who said anything about being far fetched? I only said they always have the high-end components, without regard to cost. If thats how you do your rebuilds, then you clearly are out of touch.
@KingJT805 ай бұрын
@@ckmoore101 there's literally no high end components in this video. Nothing was a custom CNC head or no custom cams. Literally a catalog build that you can find like 10000 videos on...
@ckmoore1015 ай бұрын
@@KingJT80 Fine buddy. This is a budget build. You got me. 🤪
@KingJT805 ай бұрын
@@ckmoore101 if you're hot rodding and want this HP level. Save up 5000.00 or just don't and use the stock engine.. whatever....
@MrHambone693 жыл бұрын
I wish I had it for my 93 Chevrolet blazer 4x4
@travisfisher28773 жыл бұрын
Am I hearing wrong or did joe say the block has a 4.00” diameter bore yet .030” over pistons? Obviously he spoke wrong on the bore size if it’s a true 383 lol
@BuzzLOLOL3 жыл бұрын
He's a musician/actor, not a mechanic...
@Ppk391 Жыл бұрын
Wonder what else those purple filters can do?
@aguitarhero0073 жыл бұрын
Why a 2000 rpm break in? It’s a roller cam. What’s the point?
@bertclayton6597 Жыл бұрын
It was said at one point a person could buy parts and build an engine/car much cheaper than buying assembled. I think it was said they changed the prices afterwards.
@jjmccloud3 жыл бұрын
Do these rotating assembly from summit come balanced already and can just build the short block
@afroman55313 жыл бұрын
I heard them say they where externally balanced, so yes. But im not sure about your other statement
@edwardojr28383 жыл бұрын
They do come somewhat balanced. I took mine to the machine shop and they said they were very close to fully balanced
@mjs12312 жыл бұрын
Rp trans fl in a 2004 350z auto ended in bad shifting. Had to be flushed and back to oem.