Christensen vs. Seekins Precision | Bolt-Action Rifle Comparison

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5 ай бұрын

In this video we compare the Christensen Ridgeline against the Seekins Precision Havak PH2 Bolt Action Rifle.
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@Matt-zn4zp 5 ай бұрын

I had a Christensen Arms…now I have a Seekins Precision PH Gen 2 and it blows out the Christensen arms out of the water in every category. Absolutely tack driver and I’m not just talking 2-3 shot groups…. 5-7 shot groups! For instance…300 yards 5 shot group with a little bit of wind was 1.2” group with factory Hornady ammo. Not bad for a hunting rifle. I consistently group .24-.40 at 100.

@edwardabrams4972 5 ай бұрын

I have found the same being a collector and having both as well! Save your money and buy a real quality gun the Seekin!

@josh14yo 5 ай бұрын

Same here. Christensen got one opportunity when the gun got sent back due to accuracy and pressure issues. When it came back accuracy was still unacceptable so down the road and replaced with a PH2. Zero regrets.

@tboysen00 5 ай бұрын

Have both. My opinion Seekins PH2 no questions asked. Action is nicer, integrated recoil lug, more ergonomic stock, new ones come with TT trigger also. Better customer service. Etc etc etc.

@Bullets4Bucks 5 ай бұрын

Agreed

@edwardabrams4972 5 ай бұрын

You have Chosen wisely! You will now be able to hunt without crying on your decision😳😂

@chrisb9478 5 ай бұрын

I’d pick the Seekins, no contest. I hear to many complaints about CA.

@TheTimetraveler322 Ай бұрын

Seekins PH2 in .300 WinMag owner here. Bought the rifle ready to Elk hunt, and back then it was $1750. Went out with a couple buddies that had a $6000 MOA Rifle, and a $4000+ Fierce, both in 300 PRC. Now I know that the Seekins is about one pound heavier, and WinMag and PRC are different animals, but I have been doing nothing but shooting .40-.60 groups with factory Federal 185 Bergers, while they still try to just keep it under an inch. Seekins all the way. 10/10 Would buy again, and they would never say it, but my buddies are super jealous. Very impressive rifles.

@Bullets4Bucks Ай бұрын

Awesomeness

@nebraskaman8247 4 ай бұрын

Great video! It’s videos like this online that have actually started challenging firearm manufacturers. They finally see that we will not buy crap, and that everyone knows about their flaws. Then it forces them to fix the known issues/design a better product.

@derekmcmurry 5 ай бұрын

By the way, I commented before I watched the video based on the title. I had a BAD experience with CA when I bought their bottom metal kit from Brownells to build a 7PRC. I won't go into details but Brownells told me it's a CA issue and to contact them, so I did. Naturally CA passed it back like a hot potato and told me to have Brownells take care of it. CA customer service is the worst I've experienced in the entire shooting and hunting environment. And I've been doing this for 40 years. I had a LH CA Ridgeline on my watch list on gun broker. I called the seller and asked how they were selling a new one at the price which was $1849, where all the other sellers had the same model at least $2250. They told me they just needed to part with it. We also had a long discussion about CA customer service. That's when he told me they stopped carrying CA for nearly 2-3 years. He told me CA begged them to stock their rifles again and had improved their customer service. He also told me that there were a number of sellers who all ditched CA because they literally had NO customer service for a long time and multiple issues with their firearms.

@edwardabrams4972 5 ай бұрын

Don’t be the ind to learn the hard way🤔😳 just say No to drugs and Christensen Arms rifles😳😂

@landonboomsma2594 4 ай бұрын

What was wrong with the bottom metal? I have one for a 280 build I’m working on and the action will be here this week. Bout to call a gun smith for the build.

@derekmcmurry 4 ай бұрын

@@landonboomsma2594 Actually nothing. The product is solid. The problem is the guy at CA told me I HAD TO BUY their "ultramag" bottom metal kit for a 7PRC build. So I did even though I already had a long action kit. Got the 2nd one. Took it out of the packaging and it was IDENTICAL to the first kit but they had different labels. I was concerned I'd send the wrong kit to my gun builder, or that I never received an actual "ultramag" kit. I thought maybe they packaged it wrong. Anyway, CA's solution was NO solution. They wouldn't even allow me to mail them one of the kits and trade it for an ultramag kit they had in stock. Thus, my opinion of anything CA moving forward will never be considered. Their customer service is simply non-existent. What gun builder you using?

@CarterOutdoorsman 5 ай бұрын

I’ve had issues with a CA ridgeline ejecting into the scope and awful groups. I will be packing the extra few ounces of the Seekins into the backcountry this year.

@BigTimberLodge 4 ай бұрын

Oh wow, I did not see it going that way when I first started watching this. Thank you for being you and being honest with us viewers!

@Bullets4Bucks 4 ай бұрын

You are so welcome

@208SledHead Ай бұрын

Seekins is absolutely KILLING it. I have a PH2 in 6.5 PRC and can't wait to invest into their SP10 in 6 Creedmoor. Absolute tack drivers. Handled a HIT the other day and wow are those things built well. I imagine the new Slam is gonna be the same. AND they're made in the USA where Christensen has shipped their manufacturing to China.

@jimedick9496 3 ай бұрын

I’ve got the Christiansen Ridgline FFT in 6.8 Western, and I absolutely love mine. It did require a break-in period for the barrel, I think it was 50 rounds required. I noticed the action had become much smoother the more I shot it. Accuracy also improved over time as well. My rifle only weighs 5.3 pounds, so I don’t even know it’s on my shoulder. I’m very pleased with my CA.

@peterhoma6385 5 ай бұрын

I own a CA ridgeline in a 22-250 from my experience it’s been a spectacular rifle shoots, factory ammo .075 inch group @ 200yds and under 3inch groups at 650yds , It’s a pleasure to shoot and never had any ejection problems at all, having said this I hear a lot of complaints about CA and I can attest to their customers service being bad , but the rifle it self is outstanding as I am very pleased with it ……

@derekmcmurry 5 ай бұрын

I've read a LOT of feedback and reviews that the CA Ridgeline, and their carbon barrels in general have a plethora of problems, namely delaminating at both ends but mostly at the muzzle. My gunbuilder stated to me last week he's rebarreled a ton of CA Ridgelines with Proof, Helix 6, and Fierce CF barrels. Any thoughts?

@briansmith2616 5 ай бұрын

Can you point me to the information on the Ridgeline barrel delamination problem? I searched for it and couldn't find much. Found a Proof barrel failure, but the rest was more speculative. I'd like to see what the issue is.

@derekmcmurry 5 ай бұрын

If I recall correctly, snipers hide, hunt talk, rockslide, both rifle builders I use, and an employee at sportsman’s warehouse who is part time there and a gunsmith. This is in addition to comments I’ve seen on KZfaq. The gunsmith at sportsman’s warehouse showed me about 14 pics on his phone.

@briansmith2616 5 ай бұрын

@@derekmcmurry Thanks for the response. I have three rifles with carbon fiber wrapped barrels, two Ridgelines and a Semi-custom Weatherby with a Carbon Six barrel. I personally haven't had any issues but am wondering about future problems. I was able to find some info regarding very early carbon barrels from Christensen, but nothing with the newer production barrels. Seems that the problems you mention may have been addressed. Tough to sort out what's truth and internet myth if you get my drift. I haven't found "the guy" with the issue, it's always secondhand accounts. The rifles shoot better than I can so I will not worry about it. Thanks again for the reply.

@derekmcmurry 5 ай бұрын

@@briansmith2616 I replied earlier today but apparently KZfaq deleted it because it lists a bunch of websites. I've tried this before and they delete them. So, what I can hopefully do is tell you that the gunsmith that first told me about it showed me a bunch of pics on his phone

@leewoiteshek4192 5 ай бұрын

What is the LOP on the Seekins?

@tylervolentine1286 5 ай бұрын

Seekins customer service is the best I have ever experienced and the rifles themselves are SOLID. They shoot right out of the box and are HIGH quality.

@stewarthoy7357 5 ай бұрын

I bought my Christensen when the ridgeline first came out. It’s a little different than the one you have. Came with a limbsaver recoil pad. Fit and finish is very nice! Shouts key holes! My buddy bought one two years ago and it’s crap! I hear the new ones with the FFT stocks are nice and that Christensen has stepped up on quality control.

@mammothammo7357 5 ай бұрын

The “match” chamber of my Christensen is so tight that it won’t even chamber certain factory rounds. For instance hornady 6.5 PRC 143 grain ELDX. About the only factory ammo that it will reliably chamber is Barnes 127 grain LRX. It groups them around MOA or slightly less so at least it shoots them ok. I’m thinking about trading it.

@rontakayama6379 5 ай бұрын

Case didn’t eject in the intro. That’s all I needed to see

@dylanschannel6275 4 ай бұрын

Would rather get a tikka t3x for a fraction of the price. Better action and extremely accurate with factory ammos.

@patriciolatorre8246 5 ай бұрын

Muy buen canal pero sin subtitulos en español 😢

@DevinAwe 5 ай бұрын

If you had to hunt with only one cartridge would you take 300 prc?

@Bullets4Bucks 5 ай бұрын

@HazardousRob 3 ай бұрын

@tommcqueen3145 5 ай бұрын

👍

@hedgeapplehomestead2816 2 ай бұрын

Kinda hoping for a 2020 in 7prc

@hedgeapplehomestead2816 2 ай бұрын

Same issue with the ejection pattern on my ca Ridgeline

@johnkaraphillis754 5 ай бұрын

As a CA Ridgeline owner, I will never buy another rifle from their company. It took nearly 200 rounds to start shooting decent groups. The action is sloppy and must be careful cleaning around action or will get cut. Very disappointed considering price. Purchased 5 years ago. I was looking for .280AI and at the time waited on Weatherby backcountry in that cartridge but could never locate. In good conscience I cannot recommend CA rifles.

@derekmcmurry 5 ай бұрын

If you want a nice 280AI replacement, I've seen Porter's Pawn in Mountain Home, Arkansas selling nice Fierce Carbon Rogues on gun broker $2199 but cheaper if you call direct

@johnkaraphillis754 5 ай бұрын

@@derekmcmurry thanks for the tip. About a year and a half ago, I bit the bullet and had a .280AI custom built around a Defiance action, Bartlein barrel, McMillan stock, Trigger Tech trigger, and Remington bottom metal. Turned out very nice and shoots as advertised. I definitely would purchase a Fierce. BTW I still have the Ridgeline. I don’t want to sell anyone a lemon. Thanks again

@derekmcmurry 5 ай бұрын

@@johnkaraphillis754 Small world. I just started handloads today in 1 of my 2 new 280AIs. I may still get a McMillan or AG Composite stock but decided to stick with a factory Remington BDL wood stock because I've never done it. Defiance action, 24" #3 Bartlein barrel, Trigger tech diamond trigger, RHR 700 bottom metal. The stock is pillar and skim bedded. I fireformed Norma brand Remington 280 160 tipstrike ammo. Fed210M primers, 168 Berger VLDs. Just did pressure testing today with H4831SC and got to 60.5 grains no pressure signs. Just finished loading 3 more at 60.7, 60.9, and 61.2 grains. Bullet is seated 0.010 off lands and I'm off to a good start with 60 and 60.5 grains in the same hole. My other new 280AI is a trued Rem 700 action, HS Precision stock re-pillar and skim bedded, #3 Brux barrel @24", RHR bottom metal, Trigger Tech trigger. I also fireformed the Norma factory ammo, 160 tipstrike in it but that ammo is shooting so well, I may just leave it. Yes, I know, not getting the AI benefit but at the end of the day when you punch four groups, 5 shots each, 1/2" at 100 yards, AND kill 2 deer with it 2 months ago, what the heck. Handloads can wait. I actually built it for my son but he doesn't know yet.

@derekmcmurry 5 ай бұрын

@@johnkaraphillis754 It costs money but since you still have that Ridgeline, I'd recommend just taking it to your favorite rifle builder (or ship it), have them true that action and bolt face like they would any Rem 700 action, rebarrel it, and re-bed it. Fierce carbon barrels are really good and decent price on red hawk rifles site, unless you wanna spend the money on a Proof. You're essentially staring fresh with the Ridgeline but you can convert it to a much improved rifle. Nothing wrong with the stock, trigger, or action so long as it's blueprinted properly - unlike it comes from Christensen Arms

@landonboomsma2594 4 ай бұрын

@@derekmcmurrywhat velocity are you getting with the VLDs out of your 280

@ARES11784 4 ай бұрын

Both are good versions of the r700. But boil them down and that's all they are. Id buy a seekins in 308, but I mostly shoot magnum calibers, and dont trust 1 little recoil lig ring, over other actions with multiple recoil lugs built into the action, so its all one piece of steel

@DevilsDitchOutdoors 5 ай бұрын

Never had an issue with Christensen Arms owned a dozen from 243 to 300 win mag and if you actually hunting walking 7-10 miles a day no one is going to lug that seekins around and it looks like it weighs 9 lbs as fitted. Always bad and good products with everything from guns to automobiles. But if your a Chevy man all chevys are good and if your a Ford man all fords are good. With guns 75% of the time it’s the shooter, most any gun will shoot good groups This day and time.