Busting The MYTH About Messi & Ronaldo

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HITC Sevens

HITC Sevens

4 жыл бұрын

Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo are the two greatest footballers of their generation, and among the finest players of all time.
Between them, they have won the Ballon d'Or 11 times, and still they go on for Barcelona and Juventus as arguably the two best players on Earth at the ages of 32 and 35 respectively.
Many of the discussions regarding Messi and Ronaldo frame the Argentine as some kind of born genius, and Ronaldo as a manufactured machine and athlete whose prowess is born out of a sheer willingness and desire.
I think that's a bit misleading, so in this video, HITC Sevens busts the myth surrounding Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo and their routes to football / soccer greatness.

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@bjehulk
@bjehulk 4 жыл бұрын
My dad who left to get milk 19 years ago, Where Are They Now?
@capa1575
@capa1575 4 жыл бұрын
Dear son, I am in Guatemala working as a drug trafficker for a cartel. I have been named El Cheetah. For my tattoo on my arm resembling a cheetah print and how fast I am at exporting drugs. But son I will not come back. As my life is too successful and I have many beautiful South American women around me. Sorry for the inconvenience. Sincerely, your dad.
@bjehulk
@bjehulk 4 жыл бұрын
CAPA Te extraño mucho Papa. Please come home. Or at least let me join the drug trade with you
@anthonycraciun5768
@anthonycraciun5768 4 жыл бұрын
Wtf is going on here 🤣🤣🤣
@gabrielwhite3890
@gabrielwhite3890 4 жыл бұрын
@@anthonycraciun5768 father son bonding
@tjseries3057
@tjseries3057 4 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@bjehulk
@bjehulk 4 жыл бұрын
Top 7 players most likely to start a military coup and overthrow the standing government
@minnumseerrund
@minnumseerrund 4 жыл бұрын
@mastertime 432 Zlatan is a god, why would he bother to throw a military coup when he could just throw a damn lightning bolt?
@rassingh8185
@rassingh8185 4 жыл бұрын
Giorgos Katidis will start the new Greek Reich and the National Socialist Party of Greece 😂
@justjames391
@justjames391 4 жыл бұрын
7. Felipe Melo 6. Gattuso 5. Somali 7th tier top scorer 4. Ashley Cole(for the money) 3. Sergio Ramos 2. Hakan Balka 1. Pepe(that sheer aggression and animosity)
@nevermind8063
@nevermind8063 4 жыл бұрын
Tu padre es mising?
@ronidoka1581
@ronidoka1581 4 жыл бұрын
pique lol
@AndyisAverage
@AndyisAverage 4 жыл бұрын
Best player to retire at every age
@jesusrebolledo5713
@jesusrebolledo5713 4 жыл бұрын
18:hugo chavez frias
@mexicanmapper5064
@mexicanmapper5064 4 жыл бұрын
Andys unite💪
@rallygozzy9206
@rallygozzy9206 4 жыл бұрын
Abdelhak Nouri. 😢
@aliaelbanna1580
@aliaelbanna1580 4 жыл бұрын
best players to retire at every age
@sietsedegroot5198
@sietsedegroot5198 4 жыл бұрын
Van Basten
@robnixon8832
@robnixon8832 4 жыл бұрын
I’m down for that
@ndalamonthambeleni8098
@ndalamonthambeleni8098 4 жыл бұрын
@@robnixon8832 Me too
@Bi-derPig
@Bi-derPig 4 жыл бұрын
Zlatan should be in that list
@drunkgholloris4199
@drunkgholloris4199 4 жыл бұрын
@@Bi-derPig he still hasn't retired
@hellowalkman4506
@hellowalkman4506 4 жыл бұрын
Pelé said it best. "Success is no accident. It is hard work, perseverance, learning, studying, sacrifice and most of all, love of what you are doing or learning to do."
@billmartin4093
@billmartin4093 8 ай бұрын
And talent.
@bjehulk
@bjehulk 4 жыл бұрын
Top 7 players most likely to be featured on Playboi Carti’s upcoming album
@justjames391
@justjames391 4 жыл бұрын
1. Jesse lingard
@lungilegwala7445
@lungilegwala7445 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@unknown-zr6ef
@unknown-zr6ef 4 жыл бұрын
Depay
@saintroddy
@saintroddy 4 жыл бұрын
Jese Rodriguez
@canarycatchup
@canarycatchup 4 жыл бұрын
Memphis Depay
@EugenesBackpack
@EugenesBackpack 4 жыл бұрын
I've had these points for years. The only downside to this video is that by educating people I no longer feel smarter lol
@JoshuaWring
@JoshuaWring 4 жыл бұрын
Backpack so true haha
@tjseries3057
@tjseries3057 4 жыл бұрын
Yup
@saintroddy
@saintroddy 4 жыл бұрын
That particular case of single-minded determination which Ronaldo possesses _is_ a God-given talent. How many people are born with that kind of drive and willpower?
@tomasgouveia2277
@tomasgouveia2277 4 жыл бұрын
Vedade
@zafrehman988
@zafrehman988 4 жыл бұрын
Most boxers
@fls128
@fls128 4 жыл бұрын
It's definitely unique. I remember when Messi won the 2012 ballon d'or and made the score 4-1 between him and Ronaldo. Ronaldo had a game only hours later and scored a hat trick, his will is unbreakable
@berbafan67
@berbafan67 4 жыл бұрын
Determination is something which can definitely be drastically improved upon
@Hsijbsghsj
@Hsijbsghsj 4 жыл бұрын
you are just a bit exgargginngrr. Idk how its spelled
@oliverrichardson5485
@oliverrichardson5485 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone else hear ‘Eddie Howe’ every time Alfie says anyhow? No, just me then
@rallygozzy9206
@rallygozzy9206 4 жыл бұрын
Me always..
@harveykilgarriff7304
@harveykilgarriff7304 4 жыл бұрын
Well I do now
@davidaylott550
@davidaylott550 4 жыл бұрын
Apparently Ronaldo’s decline in free kicks had something to do with his tendonitis in his standing knee that he suffered in 2014, interestingly his decline in his ability with free kicks did start to happen from 2014 onwards I feel. Not sure if this is the reason but it’s a possibility.
@Ladesh17
@Ladesh17 4 жыл бұрын
But can score long ranged shots without a problem?
@kmdunruly
@kmdunruly 4 жыл бұрын
David Aylott nah it’s just that he tries too hard replying on strength and power as he gets older. Instead of using technique and finesse shot. Which uses less power and more placement.
@badman1275
@badman1275 4 жыл бұрын
I love how you suggested an idea and theres no one even relating to what you've said just comments from people that seem upset. That's an interesting theory on his free kicks though
@davidaylott550
@davidaylott550 4 жыл бұрын
Siyabonga B. Mlambo there’s a wall with free kicks, most of his free kicks hit the wall now, doesn’t tend to be a wall with long range shots...
@davidaylott550
@davidaylott550 4 жыл бұрын
kadmiel martin He was famed for his knuckleball type freekicks though when he was younger which use as much power than technique if not more?
@LegitSarchie
@LegitSarchie 4 жыл бұрын
2:15 nah that painting is a crime
@tanishqrahuja987
@tanishqrahuja987 4 жыл бұрын
Loving the latest content Alfie. You're more charismatic than ever.
@Daniel-gp6sd
@Daniel-gp6sd 4 жыл бұрын
Disprove the myth that messi is bad for argentina
@Patrick-lw2fi
@Patrick-lw2fi 4 жыл бұрын
You can’t disprove something that is true my friend
@amanshaju4674
@amanshaju4674 4 жыл бұрын
Explain to me then why he is the top scorer in their history?
@waytun9608
@waytun9608 4 жыл бұрын
Daniel Cooper I think it’s the system and coach and their awful defense
@BourneIdentity45
@BourneIdentity45 4 жыл бұрын
Messi isn't bad but you can't say there isn't a difference between his form for Barcelona and his form for Argentina, say what you want about the players the coaches the system of playing, he hasn't done much in terms of national team achievement they were a joke in copa America last summer, I feel sorry for Messi truly because no matter what he does unless he wins a world Cup he'll always be looked down on as inferior to Maradona. That's the truth of it in my opinion and from what I've seen that's the perspective of most Argentinians
@nz_dingo
@nz_dingo 4 жыл бұрын
@@Patrick-lw2fi Explain to me then why he carried his country to a world cup final and winning the golden ball?
@l7dco
@l7dco 4 жыл бұрын
2:26 That phone tho👀
@ajayzone79
@ajayzone79 4 жыл бұрын
Omg
@JayTechZM
@JayTechZM 4 жыл бұрын
Nokia N95
@mcorriette1
@mcorriette1 4 жыл бұрын
Alfie, you really have the most informative, interesting, well thought out succinct content out there. There is never any agenda or hyperbole in your videos. I really appreciate you don’t make controversial statements or videos just to get views and that you focus on very good interesting content for true football fans
@ollieoleary
@ollieoleary 4 жыл бұрын
I like the 7s vids but these video essays are really superb and your best content imo. MotD debate last weekend was pushing the myth being examined here. You've made a forensic mockery of the very notion! Looking forward to more of these reasoned, intelligent, well presented pieces.
@connord0679
@connord0679 4 жыл бұрын
Best 7 players who’s fathers are legends of the game
@mjenius
@mjenius 4 жыл бұрын
7 National heroes who failed either in Europe in Top 5 Leagues
@fjrocks367
@fjrocks367 4 жыл бұрын
MJenius MJ Landon Donovan #1 👏🏾👏🏾
@adamkhan2194
@adamkhan2194 4 жыл бұрын
Quaresma #2
@TheRedBossGaming
@TheRedBossGaming 4 жыл бұрын
Joel Campbell could be a shout but idk if he’s generally considered a massive flop or a national hero, I just assume he is because of how many caps he’s got 😂
@rajinhossain5742
@rajinhossain5742 4 жыл бұрын
Klose
@Raku21
@Raku21 4 жыл бұрын
@@rajinhossain5742 I thought Klose was good in Bundesliga?
@philjonessmemes4224
@philjonessmemes4224 4 жыл бұрын
XI of the players who have assisted the most in each position in the top 5 leagues this season.
@user-fy1eg2mf8h
@user-fy1eg2mf8h 4 жыл бұрын
@@jamiegrimes6681 Ter stegen got 2
@olivergraham5948
@olivergraham5948 4 жыл бұрын
Just make your own channel, you seem to come up with half his ideas
@heichan8657
@heichan8657 4 жыл бұрын
Hey you steal my idea but nevermind you can get it
@philjonessmemes4224
@philjonessmemes4224 4 жыл бұрын
Oliver Graham no I won’t
@philjonessmemes4224
@philjonessmemes4224 4 жыл бұрын
Hei Chan I didn’t know ok?
@ThFncThnd
@ThFncThnd 3 жыл бұрын
Nicely summed up there in the end: it´s the combination of talent and determination to succeed that has elevated these two to the heights we probably aren´t gonna see again. Next Ballon D´Or winners will surely be below standards players unfortunately
@jcxkzhgco3050
@jcxkzhgco3050 4 жыл бұрын
I'm neither a Messi nor a Ronaldo fan. I just watch and enjoy both and you should too
@1ksubswithnovideochallenge43
@1ksubswithnovideochallenge43 4 жыл бұрын
Who else just smiles whenever he praises Messi🙂...
@markdoherty2291
@markdoherty2291 4 жыл бұрын
Unrelated to this video, but there’s a school of thought out there among younger fans that great players from years gone by wouldn’t make it in the modern game, and that for this reason they shouldn’t be included in all time ranking lists. If there’s a video you could make on this topic and how silly it is to include as an argument in the all time debate, that would be fantastic. For example, saying Johan Cruyff wouldn’t make it today so he shouldn’t be in the top 10 of all time is ludicrous, yet I have heard this on more than one occasion, so I feel it needs to be addressed. Great video once again though Alfie.
@ojooluwatosin3682
@ojooluwatosin3682 4 жыл бұрын
My doctor!, this guy is just smart Lmao
@soulfulcabbage7616
@soulfulcabbage7616 4 жыл бұрын
I get it if it was someone like George Best, who had a terrible lifestyle but other than that, Cryuff, zico, sokrates etc would definitely be the best in this era
@fearxlesstristan3245
@fearxlesstristan3245 3 жыл бұрын
I agree and disagree with this. If they were raised and trained in the modern day they would easily be in the best players of all time. However, the level of football at the time was just lower in general even if they were revolutionary
@hax-agonal2594
@hax-agonal2594 4 жыл бұрын
2:20 God that is cursed
@grinchoi1
@grinchoi1 3 жыл бұрын
I always thought it was insanely stupid when people would say Cristiano worked hard and Messi relied on natural talent and they equalled each other out as a result of that. You need both talent and hard work to be a top footballer especially with the level of consistency that these two have shown. That being said Messi possesses certain qualities that you cannot train for no matter how hard you train. Its just innate and with his hard work its been enhanced.
@C.J.80
@C.J.80 4 жыл бұрын
Love One & Respect Both! They've changed football in a way none had before, inspiring generations to come.
@philjonessmemes4224
@philjonessmemes4224 4 жыл бұрын
7 players who haven’t scored as many goals as you thought.
@ndalamonthambeleni8098
@ndalamonthambeleni8098 4 жыл бұрын
Griezmann and maybe. Suarez and Lacazete
@justjames391
@justjames391 4 жыл бұрын
@@ndalamonthambeleni8098 we don't talk about French Darren Bent
@safwan754
@safwan754 4 жыл бұрын
DROGBA
@jamiesalter2987
@jamiesalter2987 4 жыл бұрын
Suarez has over 400 career goals
@africanexpert6682
@africanexpert6682 3 жыл бұрын
Drogba, Mandzukic
@lv15ballistol
@lv15ballistol 4 жыл бұрын
Just speculation of course, but considering how energetic CR has been even now, he might have better physical longgevity (particularly 35y onwards) Messi didn't seem as explosive to me this season, however of course considering all factors (that you can use to improve your team) I think Messi is the best of at least all generations Ive seen
@lxfj2128
@lxfj2128 4 жыл бұрын
LV 16 messi has been injured a lot this season and didn’t have a preseason but Igy
@nunorb83
@nunorb83 4 жыл бұрын
There are stories about CRonaldo going to the gym at the middle of the night when he was 16. At that he was working hard on his body. If you check pics of him around 2004 he was already a beast.
@jeffthackston9572
@jeffthackston9572 2 жыл бұрын
I have just recently subscribed, so I missed this video the first time around. I want to first compliment you on an excellent channel and then say I totally agree with your assessment. Being a 60 year old American who was raised in Austria for much of his formative years, I have had the privilege of watching some of the great generational talents. From Pele, at the end of his career, to Messi and Ronaldo. For half of my life I had the immature attitude that one needed to choose a favorite player. As crazy as it sounds, I was unable to appreciate Johan Cruyff at the time because I believed Franz Beckenbauer to be superior. As I grew older, I realized that watching a gifted footballer was such a treat that I could appreciate artistry and respect skill while still preferring (for whatever reason) a particular player. While discussions about Mueller v. Lewandowski, Kahn v. Neuer (can you tell I’m a Bayern fan), R9 v R7, and the like may be great Pub argument fodder, it does not take away from the fact that we, in the last 50 years have seen some amazing football talent. I also want to commend you on pointing out at the end of the video why I believe Messi and R7 can be singled out as all time greats. That is the fact that both adapted to team needs and still thrived. Ronaldo’s increase focus on goal scoring was, in my opinion, a team based decision. The same can be said for Messi’s move back is due to the team’s need for playmaking. Thanks for advocating a cessation of the insane argument over who is better and encourage everyone to simply enjoy the gift that is Lionel Messi and Christiano Renaldo. Keep up the good work.
@amanandrew8860
@amanandrew8860 4 жыл бұрын
You get my sub for this dude! Loved it!!
@fynnkrausefootball
@fynnkrausefootball 4 жыл бұрын
We are so lucky to have witness both of them in our life time.Btw huge fan of the channel and i hooe my channel grows like urs some day
@richard-bt1lq
@richard-bt1lq 4 жыл бұрын
I always enjoy your vidz! 👍
@mjenius
@mjenius 4 жыл бұрын
2:16 Bruh that photo tho
@Gurtaopr145
@Gurtaopr145 4 жыл бұрын
Yep
@private339
@private339 4 жыл бұрын
Graffiti fan art
@lesliekay2097
@lesliekay2097 4 жыл бұрын
Im sorry but Cristiano Ronaldo could have turned out like Nani if he didnt build himself up.He may have be talented but i dont think he is rare its just that he crafted his abilities beyond. They are literally several superstar players who have the same playing profile as him - Kylian, Perisic, Son, Rashford and Aubameyang just to name a few. Sure Messi works hard but lets all just admit that his ball control is just a natural talent, it cannot be replicated hence that out right gave him a great advantage from the get go. If Jadon Sancho had his touch id say he's the closest thing to a Messi, Phillip Coutinho too but they just dont come in anyway close, Neymar hate him or love him is the only one we can make a case for.
@yaredkahssai1295
@yaredkahssai1295 4 жыл бұрын
Idk why but your first minute always is 🔥🔥
@tamikahonde5386
@tamikahonde5386 4 жыл бұрын
Top 7 national team captains, that don't captain thier team at club level
@philjonessmemes4224
@philjonessmemes4224 4 жыл бұрын
Their
@tamikahonde5386
@tamikahonde5386 4 жыл бұрын
@@philjonessmemes4224 sorry mate
@pautiotangco7440
@pautiotangco7440 4 жыл бұрын
Yes or the other way around
@johnnikoloudis6576
@johnnikoloudis6576 4 жыл бұрын
Ronaldo, Messi, lewandowsi, neymar, Hazard, Kane and modric
@philjonessmemes4224
@philjonessmemes4224 4 жыл бұрын
The Mama Slayer are you dumb? Messi captains Barca.
@alun1038
@alun1038 4 жыл бұрын
Ronaldo’s regression in terms of free kick taking is a genuine mystery, he just simply couldn’t regress that much in just a couple of years
@tjseries3057
@tjseries3057 4 жыл бұрын
You're right
@matthewkilcoyne7217
@matthewkilcoyne7217 4 жыл бұрын
Alun keepers have figured them out
@James_Byron
@James_Byron 4 жыл бұрын
Just bad luck
@internetexplorer8234
@internetexplorer8234 4 жыл бұрын
Can you do best team from every country (Europe) of all time.
@darylayertey6925
@darylayertey6925 4 жыл бұрын
Can you please do a Bundesliga fantasy tips video
@diboymashesha
@diboymashesha 4 жыл бұрын
Video about Vicente Del Bosque his legacy in despite not being a headliner but being one of the most successful coaches and what could've been if he stayed at the Bernabeu not forgetting how he took over from Luis Aragones and tweaked his side and keeping all the superstar players happy
@mateuszcwalinajr.2643
@mateuszcwalinajr.2643 4 жыл бұрын
Do seven best 1 man national teams( for ex. Armenia, Egypt, etc.)
@Hiigara85
@Hiigara85 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the great video. While i prefer Ronaldo over Messi i would never go with a simple machine over natural talent argument or say one is simply better than the other. I would argue that they are two completely different footballers. Messi is much shorter than Ronaldo (20cm), that gives him a much lower centre of gravity, and also encourages a style of play that favours close control of the ball, and make no mistake his touch is godlike! While Ronaldo was more of a flying winger, with plenty of flare and tricks. Just look at how they run with the ball, Messi will have many shorter touches and Ronaldo will take fewer but longer touches. Also Ronaldos decline in form compared to Messi is natural given he is (at the time of writing) 35 years old and Messi is 32 (there is an about 2.3 years difference). No matter how well you train, you cant defeat time and aging. You can only delay the inevitable. There is no doubt both work hard and have insane ethics to how they approach there craft. Just be happy we got to enjoy the most incredible professional rivalry in football history! odds are it wont hapen again, atleast in our lifetime anyway...
@bcbitchkkv
@bcbitchkkv 4 жыл бұрын
This has to be one of your better videos! Not that it required as extensive research and dedications as your TOP 100 PLAYERS or TOP XI of all time videos or research into Hungary's fall from grace. But comparing CR7 to his peers in the Portuguese youth sector in the early 00's, and finding data on Messi's training and eating habits, that was not something I saw coming. Good job, HITC Sevens!!
@ZacheryAlgaze
@ZacheryAlgaze 4 жыл бұрын
Busting the myth behind Modric winning the ballon d'or being the first player to break the CR7 and Messi "stronghold"
@diegotobaski9801
@diegotobaski9801 4 жыл бұрын
How is that a myth?
@correlgamers7518
@correlgamers7518 3 жыл бұрын
How is that a myth?
@ilosealotilosealot9094
@ilosealotilosealot9094 4 жыл бұрын
Since football is down could you do a series where you choose your all time 11 for the big national teams and make a tournament out of it and see the best national team of all time
@christianrippl747
@christianrippl747 4 жыл бұрын
Best XI with just substitute Players
@white_will_smith
@white_will_smith 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video alfie I love these discussion videos
@tamikahonde5386
@tamikahonde5386 4 жыл бұрын
The video has only been out for 2 minutes mate
@white_will_smith
@white_will_smith 4 жыл бұрын
@@tamikahonde5386 I said it 20 seconds after mate
@tamikahonde5386
@tamikahonde5386 4 жыл бұрын
The point is how did you watch a 12 minute video in 20 seconds
@JoshuaWring
@JoshuaWring 4 жыл бұрын
@Y T who do you prefer?!
@denzelwenzel
@denzelwenzel 4 жыл бұрын
@@tamikahonde5386 He is incinuating, that he only needed to watch 20 seconds, since the video was so great
@Ennis007
@Ennis007 4 жыл бұрын
• The Difference between the two Completely different yet Best Players of this Era . On Record, Ronaldo is Better Performer than Messi Due to his Individual , Club and Country Trophies and his Career Figures Achievements with Performing on Big Stage as a Descisive Player . But Messi is Better Footballer and a Game Changer who can almost play at Any position and Still can Influence the Team and Control the tempo of the Game.. and if Messi Could have Played for only Records then his Overall Career Statistics and Numbers Would have been Much Higher than He already has now . Ronaldo is better Performer and Messi is Better Footballer . Both are Legends. But Messi Holds More Watchable Credibility and did some things on pitch which we have never seen before and probably never will be, and that's what gave Messi an edge over Ronaldo, because football is not only about Goals or Winning Matches but Football is Beyond Statistics and Numbers, which something can't be Describe by words because it's a Joy and Emotions, which Messi Gave More Jaw Dropping Magical Moments than any footballer of his Generation . Ronaldo's Game is Limited towards Goals and his personal Mile stones with not Holding Much Excitement or Watchable Credibilities where Messi's Game Play is About Joy , Happiness and Emotions and Can't Be Expressed by Words and Something which can't be Measured by Statistics or Trophies because Whenever he does Something impossible stuff on the pitch then you just Spellbound by his Magic and You Completely in Awe of him . Ronaldo has Never Did This kind of impossible stuff on pitch and He has No Beauty in his Game and Ronaldo has Passion and Winning Mentality but his Lack Sportsmanship on pitch Combined Cheating , Diving , Punching and Acting has Heavily Ruin his Image and Respect of as a Sports Person Because only Ronaldo fans Claimed him as a Leader but Leader Never Dive and Fake Cry. So Ronaldo is only Limited Towards a Football Where Messi is The Football . Ronaldo is More Successful and Scores Lots of Goals with Having More Impact on Big Match Situations. But everything is Can't be Judge by Just Goals or Winning and Loosing, because Football is Beyond Statistics and Numbers and it also About Joy , Emotions and Entertainment.. Which no other footballer has Given and Produce BreathTaking Magic and Jaw Dropping Moments in this Generation than Lionel Messi.. and in Simple Words.. Messi Plays Better Football than Ronaldo. Messi is About Natural , All Round , Beautiful and Complete Football with having Great Career Statistics and Individual Achivements by his side too, and that what makes Messi a Better Than Ronaldo . And Hard work , Determination and Winning Attitude is very Important Ingredients which Ronaldo has, but it's not the Higher Priorities While Judging him with Messi's Gifted and Talented Attributes because Ronaldo has to Work on his Craft in order to reaching towards Messi's Level where Messi is Born Genius. So In Ranking List, as a Overall Footballer.. Both Messi and Ronaldo are Equally Deserving At Same Spot while Debating on who is the Best. But Messi is More Suitable for as to Put him Higher in an All Time Great List ahead of Ronaldo because Something can't be Explain by Maths or Theories , and for that You have to Go by Your instincts or you just have to watch both of them play and Figure it out Yourself by Simply Observation, and then judge & Rate them as per Your Level of Perception and Understanding about Football .
@Sohrab901
@Sohrab901 4 жыл бұрын
Ronaldo isn't a cheater, I love them both but Messi dives as much if not more as Ronaldo
@matthofmann7517
@matthofmann7517 4 жыл бұрын
I understand your arguments and I agree with them, however I give the edge to Ronaldo as there’s no true substitute for his match winning ability.
@val-zod1284
@val-zod1284 4 жыл бұрын
I like both, but messi will undoubtedly go down as one of the 2 best players in history, along with Pele.
@wack1275
@wack1275 4 жыл бұрын
Mister Miracle nah pele isn’t 1 or 2 he has world records that are impossible to break but he’s overrated back then football wasn’t the same as today and Messi definitely takes number 1 spot
@val-zod1284
@val-zod1284 4 жыл бұрын
@@wack1275 what's your top 3 then?
@rasmusmhh764
@rasmusmhh764 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video! Very well done. I prefer Ronaldo and has done since his very early United days. He's is the most complete player ever during all the things he has shown from start to finish. His versatility is outstanding.
@SlimClipper
@SlimClipper 4 жыл бұрын
There’s no such thing as natural football talent, it’s an accumulation of hard work/time spent practising. Messi’s the best because he’s spent the most time with a ball at his feet.
@wack1275
@wack1275 4 жыл бұрын
Robert Moore nah Ronaldo is a try hard he trains too hard
@boyblunder1521
@boyblunder1521 4 жыл бұрын
@Robert Moore Cap that bro, there are kids who still can't spell hard work with better control and skill than some Sunday league players
@SlimClipper
@SlimClipper 4 жыл бұрын
Big Nigga Too hard?
@SlimClipper
@SlimClipper 4 жыл бұрын
Boy Blunder Genetics can help you with certain things (low centre of gravity gives you better balance). You can’t be born with football skills because it’s not a natural human practice.
@toyosioyejobi309
@toyosioyejobi309 4 жыл бұрын
I can see where you are coming from but you have to realize that they are generic factors that affect body growth and development and stature. Messi body shape and stature helps him a lot as well. Same as ronaldos height and stamina even though they still had to work on certain things
@tonywilliams5804
@tonywilliams5804 4 жыл бұрын
7 reasons why you should get into Non-League football
@MANUTD4LIFE171
@MANUTD4LIFE171 3 жыл бұрын
Completely agree with everything you say. All you have to do is look at the careers of Ronaldinho and Kaka to see where amazing talent alone gets you. Both over the hill by 26-27. It’s impossible to be a top player as you approach and pass 30, if you don’t do the right things off the field.
@matthewreid2107
@matthewreid2107 4 жыл бұрын
Very well-balanced, as expected. Whoever you think is best, there's a strong case to say that by the by the time they retire they'll be the best two players to ever have played the game.
@alphabetadams1024
@alphabetadams1024 4 жыл бұрын
Which eleven would win if they were each made of one player from the team of the year EG 11 Allisons VS 11 Messis?
@goncaloalves1756
@goncaloalves1756 4 жыл бұрын
To be honest, in the way i see it, Messi has had it easy during his entire career, never left Barça so he always had the very best team-mates, never left la liga so he never really had to adapt to a league with a diffrent football style, never had to change his own playing style either, because most managers adapted their tactics to him, and not the other way around, at international level, he played at one of the best national teams in the world, with players like Aguero, Dybala, Higuain, Di Maria, and yet, failed to win any relevant competetition for his national team. Those are basically the only reasons why i think Messi cant really be the GOAT, sure he might have crazy stats and god-given talent, but you really have to take into account other things, like a player's career path, if you legit want to pick the one and only GOAT.
@ricardocorreia2542
@ricardocorreia2542 4 жыл бұрын
That is just picky conversation
@thomasanderson2384
@thomasanderson2384 4 жыл бұрын
What a ass logic as always CR7 played with Modric Kroos Marcelo Ozil Ramos Raul at RMA and Played with Giggs Scholes Rooney Tevez Ferdinand at MAN U What's ur point? Why do use baseless excuses? Messi never had it easy Had to adapt in multiple positions and played under coaches who weren't well know or were average In Argentina He has won a WC Golden Ball Multiple Copa America player of the year tournaments If u really think Di Maria Higuain are WC players then u need a doctor Stop using excuses to defame Messi Edit: Messi made Argentina best or else they are shit
@slslskspslba2407
@slslskspslba2407 4 жыл бұрын
This comment is just pathetic lmao, Messi was the TOP scorer and TOP assist provider while having a midfield with Paulinho and Andre Gomes. He has succeeded and beat everyone on pretty much every stat there is to look for no matter what Barca's starting 11 has been. He has made it work from Henry and Eto'o to Braithwaite and Fati. He has destroyed almost every team he has ever faced across the continent, so you are saying that they all play the game similarly? What Argentina one of the best national teams in the world? nah, their starting eleven in WC18 had players like acuna, perez, meza etc.
@goncaloalves1756
@goncaloalves1756 4 жыл бұрын
Y'all clearly missed the whole point of the comment, but ok 👍🏿
@thegoodgunner
@thegoodgunner 4 жыл бұрын
CR7 move to the best team (AND RICHEST) in england, then spain,then Italy,its not like he join some decent team and help them winning the league vs the best, and people call player mercenary when they want to move away but he decide to play his all carreer in one club , its call easy...Maldini,Giggs,Baresi,Totti, scholes few of some the best player who stay in one club, they must be overrated as they stay he one club and got it easy, Maldini cannot be the goat of defender then, your argument is terrible as for argentina, yes for all the great attacking player (and very few of them actually are playing good for argentina) , the rest of the team is terrible, the defence is shit (the GK not bad ) and the midfield not much better,last world cup argentina without messi wouldnt qualified, aguero,dybala,huigain were terrible and could score, and semi fit messi have to play last 3 match score in all 3 to qualified them
@lugold8766
@lugold8766 4 жыл бұрын
pls do a video about the Antarctic cup
@adamrichley6878
@adamrichley6878 4 жыл бұрын
Players with the most underrated careers. Eg Lewandowski
@99humz
@99humz 4 жыл бұрын
People also forget Ronaldo broke the British transfer record for a teenager when he signed for man utd. They think as if he was a nobody but in reality he had incredible potential and man utd were willing to splash a lot on him, in relative terms
@BC-zk3qb
@BC-zk3qb 4 жыл бұрын
Most hyped players of the 2010s were are they now
@aksharnarayanan
@aksharnarayanan 4 жыл бұрын
Asking for the twenty-sixth time; an all time greatest XI of one club men ?
@Summer-rj9ms
@Summer-rj9ms 4 жыл бұрын
The Messi/Ronaldo Wars have been amazin'. I love that Ronaldo competes with Messi's god given angelhood with raw numbers and trophies
@philjonessmemes4224
@philjonessmemes4224 4 жыл бұрын
The teams when the bundlesliga was created where are they now?
@BelieveMunashe
@BelieveMunashe 4 жыл бұрын
RONALDO = BRAND MESSI = PURE TALENT
@unstoppableExodia
@unstoppableExodia 4 жыл бұрын
This video is a clear reminder that in every generation and every age group there are many young talents that could honestly be described as possessing potential to be special. But not all get to carry that through into the professional stage as a senior player. Fewer still at elite clubs in the strongest leagues. And then amongst those only a select few get to be among the ballon dor top 5 and then to be one of the two that dominates the best footballer of the year award for a decade is a further step above that. Both Messi and cr7naldo were football prodigies in their youth days and they both kept working hard and improving and shone brighter than the rest of their generation. Messi had the good starting his professional at an elite club that was being reformed to make proper use of its academy's burgeoning golden generation of which Messi became the undisputed jewel in the crown when Pep Guardiola elevated the club's stature into the stratosphere. cr7naldo worked his way up rapidly from sporting to mufc to real mad.rid. An impressive rise even though mufc and real are rivals of teams I am fans of which made it alll the more easier to be a fan of Messi over cr7naldo. I'm not blind to cr7naldo's ability and achievements but Messi has always impressed me more with his overall play.
@hanklesacks
@hanklesacks 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve learned to appreciate both
@diboymashesha
@diboymashesha 4 жыл бұрын
Can someone also mention that Ronaldo comes from an island that is kilometres away from the mainland
@TheFPSHOLLAND
@TheFPSHOLLAND 3 жыл бұрын
Once again, great and true content!
@nickmoba3059
@nickmoba3059 4 жыл бұрын
Do 7 underachieving National teams
@phathokuhlebuthelezi7078
@phathokuhlebuthelezi7078 4 жыл бұрын
Please do every Manchester United player to wear number seven after Cristiano Ronaldo and where are they now
@Ivan18584
@Ivan18584 4 жыл бұрын
7 best players who changed position mid career
@zahrulharon4510
@zahrulharon4510 4 жыл бұрын
7 player that should quit football
@momotheone9700
@momotheone9700 2 жыл бұрын
The injury to ronaldo knee and ankle was the reason for cr7's drop in freekick conversion rate and accuracy and its also the reason for his lack of beating players as often as he used to do in his early to late 20s, its part of the reason he look kinda off on the 2014 world cup as well, its not ronaldo alone who had horrendous knee injuries and see part of his game fall flat where he has to work to bring them back up, after roberto baggio won his ballon d'or he suffered a ruptured knee and a torn acl, after which he stated that he had to dribble in a straight line for a long time because everytime he made a turn or change direction, he felt his career would end, he still manage to came back in 94 and carry italy to finals in USA only losing in penalty to brazil, or lets not forget fernando torres in 2009-10 getting a knee injury which took away his pace and explosiveness he once had, even though he was a bit slower after, he still went to euros and scored multiple times and played the world cuo winning with spain, point is knee injuries are some of the worst in all football and it generally slows down or wipes out an aspect of a players game depending on severity of it, now neymar got 2 wicked horrible ankle injury and a back one that set him out for like 6 months, but he was still brilliant and had everything he had before, yet neymar is fragile as a glass cup, meanwhile the machine physical specimen that Cr7 is, got one knee injury and had to ignore a whole aspect of his game to be more efficient, thats just how football is, ofcourse every now and then Cr7 provide breath taking dribbles and wicked skills and score great freekicks.
@philjonessmemes4224
@philjonessmemes4224 4 жыл бұрын
7 best two footed players ex. dembele
@white_will_smith
@white_will_smith 4 жыл бұрын
Haven't they already done this?
@sreenathasv5771
@sreenathasv5771 4 жыл бұрын
@L M 2020 Cristiano actually isn't two footed,
@sreenathasv5771
@sreenathasv5771 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe Greenwood, Jota or Hueng min, I think Neymar is two footed as well
@kevinhanandi
@kevinhanandi 4 жыл бұрын
They already done this, both best two footed and most one footed
@aaronbeck6701
@aaronbeck6701 4 жыл бұрын
Santi cazorla , Julian draxler
@mrsomeone846
@mrsomeone846 4 жыл бұрын
How many other eras like this have there been? Where we’ve had two this good playing at the same time? Pele and Di Stefano from the late 50’s to mid 60’s when Age caught up with Di stefano. Maybe Maradona and Platini in the 80’s, but Platini’s peak ended when Maradona’s began. What I’m saying is, Messi and Ronaldo being as good as they’ve for as long as they’ve been at the same time isn’t even once in a generation, for so many it’s once in a life time.
@abhaagrawal5780
@abhaagrawal5780 4 жыл бұрын
Do a video on the best football academies of all time or currently.
@SPQSpartacus
@SPQSpartacus 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, interesting viewpoints. In this debate I am a Messi Man, but it is easy to appreciate the greatness of both. Sadly, I have only seen CR7 live, hopefully I still have a few years to catch Leo in action. TV just is not the same.
@toyosioyejobi309
@toyosioyejobi309 4 жыл бұрын
I Love both, I respect both. Both are equally great. We can be biased with our opinions but they are the two greatest that has ever played the game 🐐🐐
@TheAsianProdigyHD
@TheAsianProdigyHD 4 жыл бұрын
Messi is a sensational player. His run from early 2009 till 2015 was crazy. Ronaldo was a showman and an excellent player at United from 2006 till 2009. Ronaldo however started changing his game in 2013 into the psychotic box player he’s become now. Ronaldo for me edges it simply down to the fact that he’s been able to change his game so significantly and with the change to a naturally defensive league in Serie A and an albeit hugely successful and dominant club in Juventus, he’s still putting out great numbers for someone who was deemed as ‘finished’ by unintelligent people in 2017. Ronaldo in the Champions League is monstrous all throughout and his performances have rarely dipped in that competition since 2013. Messi however has failed to replicate his earlier form in the latter stages in the UCL since 2015 and has looked especially hapless in 2018 and 2019 in the UCL. GOATs nonetheless and whether you feel Messi is the best or Ronaldo is the best, go for it. Ronaldo’s free kicks though, I’ll never be able to figure out what happened to his consistency...
@rumham4766
@rumham4766 4 жыл бұрын
People don't acknowledge that ronaldo has god given athleticism and one of if not the most naturally gifted athletes in football, you cant learn to run that fast be that tall or that agile
@domhuckle
@domhuckle 4 жыл бұрын
In 10 years, a new best of enemies show
@rheinhardtgrafvonthiesenha4869
@rheinhardtgrafvonthiesenha4869 4 жыл бұрын
“Ronaldo sucks” “No Messi sucks” “ cmon guys can’t we just enjoy them both” “no, Messi is better” no Ronaldo is” “why does everything have to end up like this” that should pretty much summarize all the comments below
@Ygshey
@Ygshey 4 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ i had a seizure reading that
@backmen9449
@backmen9449 4 жыл бұрын
7 players who impressed at club level but failed at international competitions
@lior995
@lior995 3 жыл бұрын
2:15 What did I just see on this wall?
@spd-kv6sd
@spd-kv6sd 4 жыл бұрын
One of the best videos about both. The much I seem like bashing them dominating football, I simply have watched their growing up. The question is that so many players just as talented and determined as them fell more off the radar. Who will remember Thomas Müller in 2040? Who will remember Franck Ribery? Who will remember Virgil van Dijk? Who will remember Gianluigi Buffon? I don't think Andrés Iniesta would face such a fate, he scored the winning goal in a world final, but still... I hoped their dominance ends as soon as possible because there are so many other players and teams. Oh, and fans of them always whine like it's been the end of the world once their teams are relegated! That's so pathetic and that's why I hate Barca in particular. And Real Madrid too. I just see them. I say "good game" once the team loses and the man answers "I don't wanna talk about it."
@dileum2015
@dileum2015 4 жыл бұрын
10 players ruined by injuries.
@kingcalv10
@kingcalv10 4 жыл бұрын
Top 7 earning players if they went with their second choice career.
@bjehulk
@bjehulk 4 жыл бұрын
KingCalv 10 Benzema - porn director
@allmediatv9814
@allmediatv9814 4 жыл бұрын
can also have news for players in BACKLAYS
@philjonessmemes4224
@philjonessmemes4224 4 жыл бұрын
Every players’ previous club of any team.
@KianMUFC
@KianMUFC 4 жыл бұрын
What is the music in the background
@schwarzfooty
@schwarzfooty 4 жыл бұрын
glad there are not too many kiddos in the comments with the "messi is better / no, no, ronaldo is better" bs, cheers for the video
@LoonaVanza
@LoonaVanza 4 жыл бұрын
*Don't be sad because they will Retire Be Happy because you were Fortunate enough to see them play. **#footballfan*
@cyberfutur5000
@cyberfutur5000 6 ай бұрын
Weirdly my most prominent memory of a Ronaldo goal (like literally the only one I can remember) is only because of Dimitar Berbatov. Actually I cant even remember the goal it self, just what Dimi did. THAT was the best piece of football I've ever seen and we even used the gif of Berbatovs move as the Logo for our band on our homepage. If you dojn't know the goal I'm talking about, google ManU berbatov Ronaldo goal or the greatest assist or something like that. It's like Pele, Maradonna, Michael Jordan, Jimi Hendrix, Michael Schumacher, Ayrton Senna, Beckenbauer, Beethoven, every single eagle, wolf and lion gave their spirit and power to Berbatov. It was magic. (On the other side the most prominent Messi goal I remember is that Maradonna goal he scored, but I could at least name some.)
@adam_.s
@adam_.s 4 жыл бұрын
Best XI to be banned from playing for their national team?
@bjehulk
@bjehulk 4 жыл бұрын
Top 7 players who support an independent Munich state
@amann1754
@amann1754 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with your views, it's ludicrous to suggest Messi is not disciplined or that Ronaldo wasn't born to score goals. However i think it must be said that while both were talented, you would definitely look at a 13 year old Messi and pick him over 13 year old Ronaldo. It must also be said that Messi has not worked on his physique the way Cristiano has, evolving from the skinny new boy in the Premier League to the 34 year old with a body that a 21 year old would dream of. I think that's just the way life is though, each we gifted in some areas but lacking in another, and both have worked to cover up their lack, which is why they are 2 of the greatest that will ever live.
@lindomthembu4017
@lindomthembu4017 4 жыл бұрын
Why would you say that as of its a given thing? 13 year old Messi vs 13 year old Cr7. Is there footage that one can compare to discern that or did you just completely ignore this video and buy into what Alfie aptly describes as a very "simplistic narrative". 13 year old was on his way to La Masia from Argentina. Ronaldo was going to Sporting at that age from Funchal. Not sure how one could really discern such a thing at an age like that. There's a lot that goes into how good a footballer is at that age and sometimes those things don't carry on into the future. Unless you had close first hand analysis of these players since they were young, then sure. But otherwise you're just being anachronistic in your assessment based on things we've seen of them when they're much older.
@amann1754
@amann1754 4 жыл бұрын
@@lindomthembu4017 Is there any footage of Ronaldo when he was that young? But there is of Messi right? There must be a reason for that? And also, when we can finally compare footage, just watch 17 year old Messi breaking into Barcelona with R10 and the likes, and 17 year old CR7 breaking into Sporting alongside Quaresma. At that point, I'm fairly confident arguing that Messi was the better player. Ronaldo has come on leaps and bounds since that young winger at Sporting, and I agree with whatever Aflies said in the video. I'm just trying to point out there's no smoke without fire, and every myth is based on a half truth.
@lindomthembu4017
@lindomthembu4017 4 жыл бұрын
@@amann1754 There's like a bit of footage of him that's like 5 seconds long. I'd imagine the reason for that is that Spain's a wealthier country with better and wealthier football academies than those in Portugal. La Masia vs Sporting's academy. Not much of a contest there between the 2. Or someone forgot to film the boys. Some mundane reason Has little to do with whose more talented at what age.
@lindomthembu4017
@lindomthembu4017 4 жыл бұрын
@@amann1754 Not sure how your logic goes there.Player A graduates from A club starts fighting for a first team spot at a bigger club than Player B. Doesn't make sense. I'm not of the opinion that Cr7 is more talented than Messi but there's a lot of nuance that you miss when you state that one was better at a certain age before either were close to senior team football. And you basically admitting you've never watched Cr7 at 13 just proves my point that you're going off anachronistic knowledge. There's a lot going into how good a footballer is at a young age especially 2 players of this calibre. One could have better at one age and worse at another. Its not a straightforward thing. The truth there is a lot greyer than it is black and white.
@ronaldaraujo4465
@ronaldaraujo4465 4 жыл бұрын
great video
@jevon39
@jevon39 4 жыл бұрын
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@JoshuaWring
@JoshuaWring 4 жыл бұрын
jevon39 love that
@jevon39
@jevon39 4 жыл бұрын
@@JoshuaWring me too lol
@mc0023
@mc0023 4 жыл бұрын
7 best players to retire at every age
@jimenogonzalez2030
@jimenogonzalez2030 4 жыл бұрын
7 best players who would be/would have been eligible to play for the Suriname national team like for example: Clarence Seedorf, Edgar Davids, Virgil van Dijk etc
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