But Can Cutting Out Some Foods Help My Disordered Eating? Life After Diets Episode 83

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BUT CAN CUTTING OUT SOME FOODS HELP MY DISORDERED EATING? LIFE AFTER DIETS PODCAST EPISODE 83
#disorderedeating #processedfoods #bingeeating
Many of us have tried to reduce or eliminate white sugar, flour, carbohydrates, and/or processed foods in order to improve our relationship with food, reduce overeating, and lose weight. Does this approach make sense? Does it help? Is it a problem with the approach or a problem with us? In this episode, we explore:
Stef’s experience of feeling good on keto, and it’s unraveling
Is it a psychological or a physiological issue?
Bright Line Eating and the science of insulin and leptin
Stef’s “close-to-the-bathroom” analogy
How community impacts this process
The rebel spirit
Can we separate abstinence from morality? Does anyone?
Personal responsibility when consuming content around these concepts
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@lorriredmon8212 Жыл бұрын

"But Can Cutting Out Some Foods Help My Disordered Eating?" In short for me, NO. I would last for months sometimes cutting out certain foods but that mental craving (even chemically I think) I NEEDED those foods. And a whole lot of rebellion is in that. Since allowing all foods, I honestly have not had the need/craving towards any foods because nothing is demonized through banning them. Stef, I've experienced that very same urinary thing! To the point of almost not making it. I shared an apartment with a woman who went to OA meetings with me. She is anorexic, me a binge eater. We were immersed in that community, 3 meetings a week, working the steps, talking with our sponsors and still for me I went back to binging on sugar because the "rule" of no sugar was not sustainable for me. I failed in OA. Until I heard Sarah speak of her experience in OA too, I thought I was the failure. The system was not set up for my needs and it failed me. Maybe it does for a majority, but not me.

@monikaurb2758 Жыл бұрын

BLE sadly made my binges the worst ever. That was one of my turning points. Thank you for covering this question it is a very important one. You guys rock xx

@EDrecoveryhowmuchmore630 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for another thoughtful episode ❤️. I think for me, restriction/Abstinence was two sided during different seasons of my life. Restriction/Abstinence brought a sense of 'control' which brought 'peace' for a long while (like 15+ years) but didn't last and then on the other side in a different season (before the 15 years) it brought chaos in lack of control that would lead to frequent binge eating. It was like the same coin but using different sides but neither leading to true freedom if that makes sense. I think this is where intuitive eating with gentle nutrition is the stabilizer, it meshes freedom and Grace with wisdom. This wisdom can lead to appropriate boundaries that enforce true freedom. An example of this for me personally is that I know that too much sugar in a sitting makes me sleepy. If I want to feel energetic and present for what's ahead I will choose less sugar in that moment so that I can be more present (sometimes I leave my sugar for before bed when I can sleep after☺️). I know that I can have more if I want it but this gentle boundary comes from a loving conviction towards what feels best. It's kind of like being passionate about your work vs. It just being work. It's a lot more motivating to care for yourself through love that can produce appropriate boundaries than through rules that stand alone apart from true care and therefore bring shame, guilt and condemnation.

@claireeliza4126 4 ай бұрын

Really insightful discussion about abstinence based communities such as Keto (which is one which really attracted me for a while). To add to this, what can also make those ‘paradigms’ so compelling is the potential health benefits, such as reducing insulin resistance, or lowering high blood pressure or reducing the risk of heart disease (as proponents of fasting often highlight). The lure of the scientifically ‘promised’ health benefits can be incredibly seductive and then the binge-eating can feel like even more of a failure, particularly when health is a core value!

@darlenecrotts2102 20 күн бұрын

I am a diabetic who binges, over 20 years. I am on keto to keep my sugar from spiking (so often) and to lower insulin resistance. and in turn lose weight. I still binge some but with exercise and getting back on the wagon it is not as often. The diabetes is the reason for trying to stay away from sugar. However, I am still not able to get off sugar substitutes.

@Thalestin 5 ай бұрын

Abstinence reminds me of the buddhist story where two monks come upon a naked women who wants help crossing the river. The one monk picks up the women and helps her cross. Miles later the one monk grabs the monk that helped the women and tells him how he was not allowed to touch a naked women and how he wrecked his vows as a buddhist. The monk simply responds: I let go of the women after helping her across the river while you held onto her for all these miles. I think this story applies with food as well-our abstinence makes the food a problem and we think we are in control but it is the food thoughts that continue to drag on and on. What monk has more peace?

@iamstefaniemichele 5 ай бұрын

WOW! what a metaphor! I love this.

@kathrynaston6841 4 ай бұрын

Here’s my take away: Maybe there are complex and layered triggers for binge eating, and depending on your own bodies history, repercussions from past interventions, body chemistry, gut chemistry, mental state, environment, culture, support system, current mental and/or physical health, it is possible that different eating regimes, medications, therapies, and exercise etc CAN work for some people. And maybe some things can work for years, then fail. And maybe something’s can work for months, then fail. And that it is important to NOT beat yourself up, KNOW that it can be caused OR reoccur for a host of reasons,. Recognize that there is help in bringing PEACE back into your life, and to not totally discard, nor totally embrace every system that is out there as good or bad, Take a deep , breath, clear your mind of self hate, and reach out to others for support. Ultimately, embrace what works for you without moralizing or judging what works for others.

@christimarie4298 4 ай бұрын

BLE worked for me 6 years ago. I lost 50 pounds and believed I found the answer I had been looking for all my life. Just avoiding the danger foods and viewing sugar and flour as a drug really helped. Until it didn’t. I was out to dinner with my husband for our anniversary and decided to have a glass of wine - my first venture outside of the lines. That led to more experimenting and then…….well I’m sure you can guess the weight is back. BUT IT WORKED! I must be the problem. For years I thought if I could just “rezoom” (BLE term). But I never seemed to be able to. I recently started noticing the part of me that vehemently protests the idea of cutting out certain foods even though it “worked” when I followed the program. I was quite surprised to hear this voice. I never knew I had an inner rebel that wanted to be heard and when I didn’t listen I ended up bingeing. This revelation occurred a few weeks ago right before I found your channel and started listening to your book. Imagine my surprise when you talked about the inner rebel.I now understand there are different parts of me that need to be allowed to have a voice. That’s where I’m at now. I was hoping to hear you speak about BLE. Thanks for all you are doing.

@marionlamb8573 4 ай бұрын

I just quit BLE for them same reason after listening to many of these podcasts over the past couple of weeks. We are not failures. Now searching for a new food freedom.

@suzycue9087 9 күн бұрын

So, you are going to just live with the extra 50?

@michaelajoseph6856 Жыл бұрын

No method fits all! I tried keto because I thought it’s healthier. After some months I got horrendous cramps 24/7 in spite of taking elektrolytes. I started also to crave starches during the day and in my dreams. Keto wasn’t working for me at all. I have to eat from all the food groups to feel satisfied. Thank you for the insites in this podcast.

@Od.3056 7 ай бұрын

Bright Line Eating has made me sick! More binges, more weight gain, more food obsession, less self worth. I have tried it for almost ten years. They are so convinced about there own succes that i believed them!?

@iamstefaniemichele 7 ай бұрын

I’ve had so many clients talk about this.

@roseanne1234 Жыл бұрын

A good discussion! I appreciate both of you turning over every rock. I have to admit, parts made me a little squeamish because of my past experiences with the intuitive eating community (both personal and professional) being very judgmental and moralizing if you didn't follow their way. I am now at a place where I really feel like there is no one way for everyone and that each person has to figure out what works for them. And, this can change! Because we change as people. What may work for someone 5, 10, 15 years may stop working because of age, health concerns, etc. You both may have addressed this topic in another video, but I would love a discussion on people who are older and have serious health concerns that may be solved or dramatically improved by diet restrictions. How are things changed when the whole game is changed? All of a sudden, one is in a totally different arena. Also, how does a practice like meditation effect the psychological aspects that you were talking about? Thanks so much. Hope you consider these questions for topics, if you haven't already.

@iamstefaniemichele Жыл бұрын

Good questions. I think, when health is a concern, that's a place where Gentle Nutrition comes into play. I think there is more nuance to Intuitive Eating than mainstream talks about, and it can definitely come across as black and white or "my way or the highway" out there!

@trip8263 Ай бұрын

It's bladder spasms. The brain sends signals.

@pixie3458 5 ай бұрын

Brilliant how you cover the latest food fads 😊

@rachelj7085 Жыл бұрын

Some people compare "addiction" to sugar/flour to addiction to alcohol. What are your thoughts?

@lifeafterdietspodcast4229 Жыл бұрын

We have an episode on this! Number 23 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/d8x1dbSd08yliKM.html

@scienceforlife89 Жыл бұрын

Why I binge on "healthy food"? I have strong craving for meat, chees, sour vegetables, eggs, dark chocolate or cacao? Like I am deficient, but my blood tests for hormones (t3, t4, tsh) vitamins (folate, B12) and Mg, Fe are in "normal range" ? Around mouth i have for months angular chellitis and "unknown allergy on hand". Its just so weird becouse i eat "satisfying food" in such big amounts. :(((

@iamstefaniemichele Жыл бұрын

HI there, Stef here. I used to crave these things too, and only binged on "healthy" food. For me, this was related to my beliefs about good/bad foods; I simply didn't eat anything I didn't consider healthy. But the body, in restriction, will crave calories and "healthy" foods can be calorie dense as well.

@scienceforlife89 Жыл бұрын

@@iamstefaniemichele Thanks a lot for informations and your experiences. I don't think, consciously, that I restrict myself, I just have weird cravings, and than binge with whole package of plain butter, or more than one pound (ib) of chees, meat, bread, eggs, dryed frut like cranberries or sesam seeds. "Processed food" that I sometimes binge on is sour gummy candies (Trolli worms) and pretzel sticks. I really appreciate your work, watch a lot of your yt podcasts and thinking about "coping mechanism" like you talked-about... When i'm stressed out and anxious, I eat huge amount of food, not because i am starving, really physically hungry or restricted, but I think that feeling of fullness "ground me down". With really full stomach, when you can bearley breathe, I can just sit still and can't furiously be "on the go" anymore... It makes me sad that only when I am physically overly full, I can calm down (body & mind) and sit still...

@iamstefaniemichele Жыл бұрын

@@scienceforlife89 Without knowing more, it's hard to say what might be going on there, but I wonder if somatic therapy might be able to help as it addresses felt senses in the body (like the gravity, the groundedness of being full)...just a thought.

@scienceforlife89 Жыл бұрын

@@iamstefaniemichele Thank you, never heard before of somatic therapy, I will definitely try it.