Butterfly Keyed Mitre

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Mitch Peacock • Designer Woodworker

Mitch Peacock • Designer Woodworker

Күн бұрын

Butterfly Keyed Mitre
This is an elegant way to reinforce a simple mitre joint. The butterfly can be hidden from view, or used as a feature.
Watch me cut a butterfly key, chop the butterfly socket, install the key, and flush the surface.

Пікірлер: 91
@NicBellamy
@NicBellamy 2 жыл бұрын
As much as I enjoy my modern power tools, watching you do this purely with hand tools was great - thank you!
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. For sure a power router and template would make sense if there were many to do, but I wouldn't enjoy it as much.
@arnold7156
@arnold7156 9 жыл бұрын
himitch, its me arnold. great job will try, Ive been a plumber for 57 years, and missed my calling. but watching you and paul sellrs got me fired up. baught a worh bench an old stanley #3 and new #4 bunch of other tools and im on my way. thanks for the insperation im loving it , having fun with my planes and tools,. thanks again mitch. arnold.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 9 жыл бұрын
Arnold Espenberg that's great to hear Arnold. Always here if you have any questions. Happy woodworking, Mitch
@beaufighter245
@beaufighter245 7 жыл бұрын
Good carpentry skills. How on earth could anyone give this a thumbs down!
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Haha, I can't please everyone
@kgrafphoto
@kgrafphoto 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the short and effective video. Very clear and useful.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks Karl, much appreciated
@capt.paulsavoy1942
@capt.paulsavoy1942 7 жыл бұрын
It would be a sin to do such a beautiful job and then hide it on the back side of the work! masterfully done.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@sajidullah
@sajidullah 7 жыл бұрын
If displayed in the front , it will indeed look nice.
@markbaldwin2912
@markbaldwin2912 7 жыл бұрын
setting the depth gauge on bosch mrc23evs
@robertbrunston5406
@robertbrunston5406 6 жыл бұрын
Very nice! Thanks Mitch.
@rickhickman2730
@rickhickman2730 4 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how tight that mitre is, nicely done!
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers Rick
@jamesnorris2611
@jamesnorris2611 8 жыл бұрын
great video. personally I would use this as a design and have it facing forward. they look fantastic. i love your handy work.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 8 жыл бұрын
Cheers James! Yep, that's a nice idea.
@Sebastopolmark
@Sebastopolmark 7 жыл бұрын
GREAT tip to outline your your cut with pencil. Good timing for me to watch this as I just ordered a router plane blade and will be making one in a week or so. Thanks
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 7 жыл бұрын
Sebastopolmark Thanks. Good luck with the router plane, they're great
@marcusm.8374
@marcusm.8374 7 жыл бұрын
Amazing job, strong and beautiful ! Congrats. I'd personally leave the butterflies a a decoration feature. Thanks
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Yes, done carefully it could make a nice decoration.
@pissantsseemore7095
@pissantsseemore7095 7 жыл бұрын
I first thought it was to be a through-dovetail to pull the joint. Even so, much impressed with techniques and execution. I will copy to move myself up the hill. Will search for more of your craftsmanship. ron
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 7 жыл бұрын
Cheers Ron
@karlpopewoodcraft
@karlpopewoodcraft 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful work, I wish I found your channel a year ago. Thank you for such clear instructions. Kind regards Karl Karlpopewoodcraft
@johmin2
@johmin2 8 жыл бұрын
Very meticulous work...Properly explained...beauty and strength made easy...
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 8 жыл бұрын
+John Mckell Thank you very much John
@kennyc388
@kennyc388 6 жыл бұрын
Pretty hard to beat the sound of a razor sharp plane on wood!
@RLNTEX
@RLNTEX 7 жыл бұрын
You have a lot of patience my man. Most of the time my router isn't fast enough for me.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 7 жыл бұрын
Cheers Robert. Slow is the new fast - in my book anyway 😉
@ThePatrickjon
@ThePatrickjon 9 жыл бұрын
Very nice tutorial. Pay no attention to the non constructive criticisms. It will be fun to try out on some scraps and get some practice with my limited supply of hand tools.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 9 жыл бұрын
Patrick Monaghan Thanks Patrick. This technique can make for nice little photo frames, and the 'butterfly' can be substituted with other shapes too. Happy woodworking, Mitch
@Offshoreorganbuilder
@Offshoreorganbuilder 9 жыл бұрын
Very neat. Thanks!
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 9 жыл бұрын
Offshoreorganbuilder Cheers
@raysmith1992
@raysmith1992 5 жыл бұрын
I would have it showing as it adds character, good video and another joint I must try 👍 thanks!
@Threeheadsrk
@Threeheadsrk 8 жыл бұрын
i think im going to attempt to make a mirror frame with one of these in each corner. looks great
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 8 жыл бұрын
+Keegs R That would work really well. Send me a photo for my viewers gallery when it's done. Cheers, Mitch
@mikeadrover5173
@mikeadrover5173 9 жыл бұрын
As always, thanks’ for taking the time to make this video! ~M~
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 9 жыл бұрын
Mike A Drover Cheers Mike
@charliecampbell9212
@charliecampbell9212 7 жыл бұрын
That would be nice to be on the front of a picture frame it would add a bit of character. Well done nice work
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 7 жыл бұрын
Cheers Charlie! Yes, nice idea.
@niclasjohansson3337
@niclasjohansson3337 9 жыл бұрын
It's Beautiful to look at so one can have It in veiw.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 9 жыл бұрын
niclas johansson Thanks
@Mr_Rick
@Mr_Rick 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent!
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Cheers Rick!
@nwiegman
@nwiegman 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I am inspired.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 9 жыл бұрын
Nelson Wiegman Cheers Nelson, hope you enjoy the whole series, which is still growing.Happy woodworking, Mitch
@borthewolf3376
@borthewolf3376 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a lovely video and a good explanation, but wouldn't it be more accurate if the butterfly was marked to avoid turning it accidentally up side down or 180 degrees?
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 8 жыл бұрын
+Bor the Wolf That's not a bad idea - although there is usually sufficient figure in the wood to not get the orientation confused. Of course if it's symmetrical and accurate, then it will fit perfectly either way round - that's what to aim for 😉
@ghostzart
@ghostzart 8 жыл бұрын
Can more than one of these be extended to any arbitrary length mitre or is there a limit? I've mostly only seen butterfly keys like this in small picture frame dimensions, or to prevent checking in tabletops and reclaimed wood. I'm tempted to "force" a mitered L-shaped shelf to stay together in the drier months by making several butterflies, but is there a point where wood movement along the mitre line (which usually causes the interior corner to separate much earlier than the rest of the joint because the angle of the mitre changes) "overpowers" the keys, so to say? Or would the movement be restricted at the mitre and simply redirected further down the shelf? I could live with a few months of slightly less shelf space, but the gap between the mitred edges in the corner is quite an eyesore. The answer I've found online is almost always a variant of "drown both ends in epoxy and steel brackets and cross your fingers," but it was typically given by people who never learned traditional joinery to begin with and may not be familiar with a solution that doesn't involve hitting a power button on something.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 8 жыл бұрын
+ghostzart That's a great question, and I have to say I don't have experience coping with this problem. My initial thoughts would be to use a splined mitre or secret mitre dovetail, but experimentation is the best way to find out. Mock up a similar corner with a butterfly in relatively moist timber, and then dry it out a bit. The unsupported area will most likely open a little, but the supported joint line may hold up. If you try it, then please let me know how it goes.
@VikingRaider
@VikingRaider 8 жыл бұрын
Outstanding work: Thank you. There are some fascinating clamps shown at 10:10: where can they be purchased from?
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I think you must be referring to the plastic headed ones? They are by Wolf, and were bought in Germany. The metal F-clamps were also a German buy. The MDF clamping arrangement was home made! Cheers, Mitch
@lambert1987mb
@lambert1987mb 9 жыл бұрын
Nicely done but I agree dont hide that butterfly key make it the front!
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 9 жыл бұрын
Lambert Russell Thanks. Happy woodworking, Mitch
@19Photographer76
@19Photographer76 9 жыл бұрын
WOmadeOD - Made in Wood with Mitch Peacock yes, what a waste of a key visual accent if it were placed to the back. I know, it could diminish the artwork in the frame:)
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 9 жыл бұрын
I agree that it could make a nice accent on the front. Sadly it would be tricky to install in other than a flat faced frame.
@MySetDancer1
@MySetDancer1 8 жыл бұрын
Don't you end-up with a gap around the butterfly the width of the scribe line? I slightly taper the butterfly so that the butterfly is slightly wedge-like. Thanks.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 8 жыл бұрын
+MySetDancer1 Hi, I guess there is a minute gap, but the knife line is so narrow that I've never been able to notice the gap. Don't remember trying a taper on the butterfly, but if it works for you then why not :-) Happy woodworking, Mitch
@MarkleZephire
@MarkleZephire 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. I've made some hardwood picture frames up and have been wondering how to reinforce the mitre joint. 24 butterfly keys & sockets to do so I'll have to allocate a fair amount of time for this :)
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 9 жыл бұрын
MarkleZephire You could alternatively use veneer keys ( kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bLmBrM-Tm5m4aac.html ) although they're less challenging and less attractive.
@captainheinie6355
@captainheinie6355 8 жыл бұрын
VERY NICE.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@billsutherland2128
@billsutherland2128 8 жыл бұрын
Hello Mitch. You did a beautiful job on the butterfly. I have a question for you and people like Paul Sellers: how did the woodworker in ancient times end up with a flat bottomed mortise or bowl without a calibrated cutter like a router plane? Inquiring minds have to put a fly in the ointment. Thanks, Bill from Minnesota, USA.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 8 жыл бұрын
+Bill Sutherland hi Bill. I feel sure that the equivalent of the router plane, a scraper attached to a beam or similar, would have been invented very early on, however assuming we go back before that: a straight line from top edge to opposite to edge could be found by a taught string, and depth gauged from this line with a stick touching the bottom. They could work away the high spots until the bottom was flat. As far as mortises go, if they weren't going to be seen then I doubt they would do any more than eyeball it.
@alexjschneider
@alexjschneider 9 жыл бұрын
What kind of hand saw is that at 1:00? Anything specific or just a basic saw?
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 9 жыл бұрын
Alex Schneider Hi Alex. That is my little Japanese dovetail saw. I find it real sweet to use on small work of all kinds. No reason not to use a western dovetail or tenon saw.
@STEVEBLACKA
@STEVEBLACKA 10 жыл бұрын
Nice work as usual Mitch...that thumb looks sore..lol Where in the uk are you roughly? Steve
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 10 жыл бұрын
The result of a poor quick release clamp - one reason I don't have any like them in my workshop! I'm currently based in East Sussex.
@STEVEBLACKA
@STEVEBLACKA 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@edgeofeternity101
@edgeofeternity101 8 жыл бұрын
What is the name of the scoring knife that you used? I'd like to get one of those.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 8 жыл бұрын
+edgeofeternity101 Hi. This was a Japanese vee point marking knife, which I think I bought from Axminster Tools & Machinery. They currently sell them anyway, www.axminster.co.uk/japanese-vee-point-marking-knife-384008
@carlitros97
@carlitros97 8 жыл бұрын
How it is called the tool used in 7:11 minutes ?
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 8 жыл бұрын
Hi! That is a router plane. Take a look at my video about them, kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a9uEaLGn17jMYGw.html they're great, although sharpening is a bit of a trick - of course I have a video on that too!
@stevepolychronopoulis
@stevepolychronopoulis 8 жыл бұрын
Great video, but that joint is way too attractive to hide in the back. I'd display it on the front of a frame, personally.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 8 жыл бұрын
+Steve Polychronopolous Thanks Steve. Happy woodworking, Mitch
@EnergeticWaves
@EnergeticWaves 9 жыл бұрын
What material was the butterfly?
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 9 жыл бұрын
EnergeticWaves Now that's testing my memory! I think sapele, as I've had plenty of of cuts for the past few years. Do you like the contrast?
@EnergeticWaves
@EnergeticWaves 9 жыл бұрын
Yeah, its cute!
@WarBerJr02
@WarBerJr02 8 жыл бұрын
Would you consider doing a video on how to do a hidden - mitered dovetail joint?
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 8 жыл бұрын
Hi. I've done one - called the secret mitre dovetail. I don't have the link right now, but it should be towards the end off the hand cut joints playlist. if you have problems finding it, let me know.
@WarBerJr02
@WarBerJr02 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks - I am searching for it now.
@hasmukhvpatel4539
@hasmukhvpatel4539 8 жыл бұрын
In side Biscuit Is Better And Faster,,,What you Think ???
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 8 жыл бұрын
Undoubtedly faster to install a biscuit. Depends on alignment and accuracy of biscuit joiner as to whether it goes together square and flush.One draw back is limit to minimum mitre length, since a '0' biscuit is as short as it gets. If the mitre is shorter, then the biscuit slot will cut through the corners.
@hasmukhvpatel4539
@hasmukhvpatel4539 8 жыл бұрын
yes ,very good answer.
@edmacfarlane9483
@edmacfarlane9483 10 жыл бұрын
lovely joint shame its on the back of a picture frame though.
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 9 жыл бұрын
Ed Macfarlane Cheers. I guess you could always pop one on the front - dry fit before running the moulding, glue up, then cut the butterfly's moulding into the mitre with carving gouges
@unityroad
@unityroad 9 жыл бұрын
WHY?
@mitchwoodwork
@mitchwoodwork 9 жыл бұрын
sack wacker it will stop the mitre failing, simple
@frankenstein6621
@frankenstein6621 10 жыл бұрын
Too much work.. much time wasted.
@filmsoundno
@filmsoundno 10 жыл бұрын
If you got the time and the interest, it is not to much, and certainly not wasted. Idiot.
@straffevlaarhoven
@straffevlaarhoven 9 жыл бұрын
You just pointed out the difference of working with wood and woodworking..
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