Buying An ANTIQUE CABOVER Ford And Getting It RUNNING The Hard Way

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Buying An ANTIQUE CABOVER Ford And Getting It RUNNING The Hard Way

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Күн бұрын

I did it again, it's time to drag home another old Ford truck. This is a 1972 Ford cabover or C-series truck. It's a C600 that used to belong to a John Deere dealership. I bought it cheap but once we got it back to the shop we found a lot of major issues with it. It started up with a tow, but we're a long way from it running and driving on it's own.
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@chadkolman4135 Жыл бұрын

My buddy owned this for years it had a roll back bed on it and we used it to haul in scrap cars. Also the frame was bent from hauling lots of heavy stuff on the rollback. Last time I drove it was about 7 years ago and the brakes were junk then. Also it eats starters bad it never had an ignition we use to start it with a screw driver. My buddy put that rigged up push button in. That push button was from a door popper kit. Rear end was unhooked cause it would get stuck one way or another in hi or low. Brings back memories seeing it again.

@dazasc3994 Жыл бұрын

you got any pics of it from back then?

@Brycereigle2000 Жыл бұрын

What year is it?

@Bumblebee4788 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info on the old girl....

@jeesmith99 Жыл бұрын

Your dad is like the real world mister wizard. What a cool dude.

@Cartier_specialist Жыл бұрын

Yeah I'm pretty sure he's the real deal MacGyver, not the fictional one as seen on TV.

@chrispy3866 Жыл бұрын

I doubt jr remembers Mr. Wizard. That’s a GenX’er thing (me).

@jbeatty811 Жыл бұрын

Couldn't agree more

@willpoteat8503 Жыл бұрын

@@jbeatty811 He's the smartest guy we all know. :D

@repairupdaterepeat5815 Жыл бұрын

You know it's a good video when Ross senior arrives with a screwdriver

@thedelcodave Жыл бұрын

Your content has been on fire since the warehouse sold! Just like the old days I am loving it.

@hojnikb Жыл бұрын

Yeah, this channel needs more cheap flips and builds :D

@Rolexor Жыл бұрын

Your dad is awesome. He’s throwing out insane knowledge.

@rpmrallysport7071 Жыл бұрын

What a fun episode JR- it's running Dad- the frame is a waste Had me laughing - love when your dad is on - he must be thinking.... what did that boy bring home now.

@Shauma_llama Жыл бұрын

Wonder what JR brought home when he was kid?

@TwoDollarGararge Жыл бұрын

that's how my dad reacted when I went to a swap meet in PA for cleaning stuff in bulk and came home with a Porshe 944 lol

@htownblue11 Жыл бұрын

Always great to see your pops and him sharing his knowledge.

@BrickBastard Жыл бұрын

How bad is the frame forward of the badly damaged spots? Have you considered chopping and shortening it, ala Stubby Bob from Roadkill? Maybe build a little utility bed on the back with space for all the tools you'd need for doing field revivals, then weld on a sturdy tow hitch and use it to pull a trailer for bringing new hoopties home. Or hotrod it into a really fun short wheelbase tonka toy.

@phenomanII Жыл бұрын

Now that sounds awesome! Cabovers are already rare in the US, I'd love to see you embrace the stubby look with a shorter frame as well.

@christianmartinez-gm2zx Жыл бұрын

Exactly what I was thinking as soon as he showed the frame damage. A cab over pickup would be awesome!

@Mechanicalasshole Жыл бұрын

Literally what I came here to post. Shorten the length JR

@Hard_Right Жыл бұрын

that's not enough good to make it all work ... it needs a whole new frame or you can just add frame to the good part and replace the bad part but you couldn't shorten that enough to get all the bad frame gone and still have enough room to put the trans and rear back under it

@dangraf4410 Жыл бұрын

Remember, in most States once you change a Truck Frame or alter it you have to have get it re-certified by the State DOT or State Police. Just thought I’d give you a Heads Up. 😊

@Rose.Of.Hizaki Жыл бұрын

Love your dad! The man is a whole wealth of knowledge and he's got an eye for detail. Spotted that the frame was bent after having a quick look at it.

@jritechnology Жыл бұрын

"I'VE GOT NO BRAKES!!!!!...... Can you unhook me so I can drive it?!" Indeed!

@WatchJRGo Жыл бұрын

As long as there are no hills you don't need brakes 😂

@clevelandmaker386 Жыл бұрын

@@WatchJRGo now we talkin'

@clevelandmaker386 Жыл бұрын

@@WatchJRGo aluminum Alcoas...Holley sniper....and you can get the rest from Truck Pro

@joequixotic3039 Жыл бұрын

@@WatchJRGo you need to see if John Deer PTO attachments fit on the back of the chassis.

@DirceuCorsetti Жыл бұрын

Love it when your old man makes an appearance. The enthusiasm he shows for the garbage stuff you come up to him from time to time is the thing only dads can do. This truck could make an awesome backup trailer to pickup new projects. Would it be so hard chop and rebuild the frame with a torch and welder? I know it wouldn't be as good as to have it all in one piece, but it can be done I think!

@ryanenglehart7247 Жыл бұрын

Hey I'm watching from Charlotte, Mi!! Pronounced Shar-Lot. D.e. wertz was a local farm machinery dealer that sold to another company a handful of years ago. Been watching you for a few years now, pretty crazy coincidence to see something, especially that, from my hometown on here haha

@mikec3071 Жыл бұрын

I’m in Lansing. I had the urge to correct him every time he said it like the nascar track😆

@mikemontgomery7337 Жыл бұрын

I'm surprised you didn't drop that off in front of ur house to impress your neighbors !!!! 🤣

@rossk4167 Жыл бұрын

JR's dad is such a dad! Love that guy

@marlinmr7 Жыл бұрын

In adding to this - I suggest figuring out how much of the frame is good and then shortening the frame possibly. We used to do this all the time with my Dad's delivery trucks. The biggest thing is the drive shaft will need to be shortened to match and that you really need someone doing it who knows what they are doing. Rest of the truck is so cool - it is worth the frame shortening and the rest of what needs to be done.

@VanisleNSX Жыл бұрын

John Ross' dad is always so knowledgeable.

@truthteller9743 Жыл бұрын

Please tell pops to start a KZfaq channel I can listen to him teach things or at least talk about things all day such a smart man.

@sgttombailes3380 Жыл бұрын

Years ago, in the early "70's I drove a old cab Over Ford Truck. It was awesome ! The view was great while driving !! 2 years in the N. GA. MTNS. Switch backs and all !! I was able to see everything !! Including my trailer ! I loved it !!! When they got rid of it, I was unhappy. However, they gave me a brand new International cab.. W/ air conditioning !! That was a plus~~!

@briantayler1230 Жыл бұрын

G'day from OZ, my late father was a truck driver in the '60s - '70s, and his truck was petrol and was parked at night outside our house. People down the street would sneak up at night and steal (milk) the petrol from the truck. He then got a new Ford diesel truck, similar to this one, and they only milked it once. Years later we talked to the thieves and they said that the car never ran again.

@glassvial Жыл бұрын

I love how WatchJRSenior just gets after it and glad you got this old beast running. You have a way of making people excited about whatever crazy project you're doing, unless you find a cheap frame though, this thing is probably too far gone.

@Tele_gram_me_Young_Static Жыл бұрын

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@P.Galore Жыл бұрын

Mr. JRGO: " What are you going to do with this thing?".....EXACTLY Mr. JRGO, Exactly the right question.

@69Dartman Жыл бұрын

The tire shops here used to have the big tire cages so they could service split rims safely. Most older pickups had them, my 41 Power Wagon had 16 inch bud split rims and I had a friend into the military trucks that would change them out in his driveway. The ones meant for combat areas had what we called combat rims that had a outer cover over the split with about 12 or more bolts keeping the split rim from ever blowing off no matter what happened to the wheel. Finding a decent 4bbl intake manifold for those engines isn't that easy but they run great with a spread bore carb.

@jackasmaryan1776 Жыл бұрын

Always Awsome Seeing Senior 👍👍

@gerbearadventures5574 Жыл бұрын

I love these old trucks. Thanks for bringing us along!

@Therehabanddocumentationguru Жыл бұрын

Please bring back Dad to more videos. Your relationship is awesome to see, the 2 of you working together.

@user-rk5db6ss6k 17 күн бұрын

I've always liked the C-600. I drove a flatbed lumber truck in the 70s and a 4 yard cement mixer in the 80s. They both had the 2 speed rear end. The mixer had a really sweet Detroit V8 and it had plenty of get-up-and-go. Lots of fun to drive. I do happen to have an F-600 frame that I've had plans to use it for an overlander. It has a single speed with 8x22.5 six lugs. No motor or trans.

@karaayers2867 Жыл бұрын

They are not split rims. They are locking ring rims. Actual split rims have a seam down the middle. Locking ring rims are safe, you can change the tires and tubes out yourself fairly easily. Just clean the rings and grooved well as rust can keep them from locking in place easily

@fixinggrace Жыл бұрын

The Red Cross used to have these in the 1970s before they switched to GM Top Kicks for their box trucks. They were all gasoline powered. Brings back memories.

@In_memory_of_Dad Жыл бұрын

John Ross you are on fire buddy, please keep the excellent content coming dude...🔥👍🙂👍🇺🇲🇬🇧🇺🇲🇬🇧

@emeyer6963 Жыл бұрын

These were mad from the late 50's through the mid 80's.Real workhorses.

@isaacsoderlund9677 Жыл бұрын

As soon as your dad started talking about rebuilding the carb, I knew you were going to drop a Holy Sniper reference!

@AutoAuctionRebuilds Жыл бұрын

I really love those old COEs

@xr75k1 Жыл бұрын

I admire JR Senior enormously. What a talented Mr fix-anything.

@paulstevens95 Жыл бұрын

I work at a camp in Alaska most summers that uses one of these to haul AvGas and Diesel from the Yukon River up to the camp. It's a lot of fun to drive through muddy tundra in western Alaska with 3000 gallons of fuel. Often use a 1960's Cat D5 dozer as a pusher when needed. One of my favorite styles ever from Ford

@smokecannabispresentions Жыл бұрын

I live in Grand Ledge Mi just down the road and used to live in Charlotte. D.E. Wertz is still around on Lincoln St.

@05milmachine90 Жыл бұрын

We had these Ford cabovers in the Air Force as De-ice trucks. They were used a handful of times a year and were like time capsules. Love the design. I remember a lot of them going dirt cheap at gov auctions

@buttwaggen4201 7 ай бұрын

When I was a little boy in the late 60s? I could ride with my dad on Saturday. He drove a garbage truck that had the cab over back before there was osha. And tattle tales and it was just cool to be in that big truck like that. Hanging out with him getting ice cream and running his calls with him

@born_again_torinos Жыл бұрын

I really appreciate how often you put out a video JR. Thanks.

@jeesmith99 Жыл бұрын

Took my first commercial drivers license exam in something like this that was ex Air Force. Connected to a low boy trailer to haul a helicopter. What a rig.

@jeremylynn8631 Жыл бұрын

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@mccrackenphillip Жыл бұрын

Rare truck man real keeper Road Way Expresses used those in the late 90s when I was a kid Orange & Dark Blue. & and without the blue Ford oval tells me this truck is older like 1980

@darrylroederer2680 Жыл бұрын

I've been doing a little thinking on your frame issue. Basically, that frame is unobtainium at this point. But you might be able to find something similar enough to get you through underneath an old Ford School bus. If that doesn't work out, and you have to Frankenstein the thing together, I think it would be really cool to Bob it out, make a short wheelbase pickup truck hauling a gooseneck car hauler. That would be very cool in my opinion. Also worth noting, the engine in that maybe the heavy duty Fe block. Check for cross bolted main caps, bolts in the side of the block down near the oil pan. If you do have the heavy duty block, even if it's only a 352, that thing is golden. Super heavy duty and worth hanging on to. Worst case scenario, you could put a 428 crank in that, along with some good heads and make killer torque

@dustar14 Жыл бұрын

Awesome find, used to buy all of our tractors, parts and toys from Wertz’s. Would’ve loved to have found this.

@Tele_gram_me_Young_Static Жыл бұрын

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@Maxzillian Жыл бұрын

I'm honestly a bit disappointed I didn't come across this one. That truck is awesome!

@KeithZim Жыл бұрын

Lucky 4 u most of Johns content goes up for sale again :)

@Maxzillian Жыл бұрын

@@KeithZim yeah, but then most of the fun is done and over with. There's something really satisfying about getting a dead vehicle going again.

@nostric4237 Жыл бұрын

I have watched JRGo every day for the last three years.

@victus57 Жыл бұрын

I love these cabovers! I hope y'all are able to save it and make an awesome truck out of it. I've always wanted one, so I'm happy to see y'all may have a project out of one!

@FeloniousSavage Жыл бұрын

Jr gets good deals because he's the only one of us willing to meet the shady dude off of Craigslist to purchase the car that seems too good to be true because it's $4,000 below Blue book value and you have to meet the dude in a dark alley... An absolutely legend...

@jritechnology Жыл бұрын

Nice find! One of the first C-Series! That big knob might be choke? And you can see where they tried to reinforce the bend in the frame.

@jonkwin9620 Жыл бұрын

Split rims are not dangerous if handled properly, get tires changed by a truck tire company. Those spoke wheels could look so great with the right paint colors. The brake booster in the rear is probably a trailer brake set up.

@thatcadillacguy1961 Жыл бұрын

As soon as I saw Sr. I knew that rig was gonna run.

@jasong3652 Жыл бұрын

JR’s dad should have a channel too! I would subscribe and watch every day!

@nathancoye Жыл бұрын

I always enjoy the videos with your dad and brother getting stuff running.

@tincansailor9437 Жыл бұрын

When you pay less than scrap value, you can't lose!

@T.S.T2014 Жыл бұрын

Good old school JR, keep it up Lad we are all interested again.

@JimFlanagan4206 Жыл бұрын

Put a roll back on it and you won't need a trailer again.

@bradklingensmith Жыл бұрын

Runs and drives. Nothing said about stopping. Lol. Love the truck.

@johnstabler4543 Жыл бұрын

JR, I’d love to see a full tune-up/build series on this truck!

@MrAPCProductions Жыл бұрын

C61 = C600 2WD (gas). D = 330 2V Heavy Duty FT engine. V = Kentucky Truck Assembly Plant. AG7348 = 1978 / 1978 was the first year Ford used a double letter code in the serial number. 175 " Wheelbase. Color NT = No listing given. C617 = C600 gas, 21,200 lbs GVWR A2 = Light Gray Crush Vinyl & Gray Twill Stripe Woven Plastic / 8 = 91B Custom Cab. A = New Process 435 4 Speed Manual Transmission. F2 = Eaton model 15201 Two Speed Rear Axle / 5.83/8.12 / 15,000 lbs. Rear Axle Capacity. M = Ford 7,000 lbs. Capacity Front Axle with Power Steering. 21,200 lbs. Gross Vehicle Weight Rating.

@the.porter.productions 7 ай бұрын

O-H-I-O Porter greetings 🇺🇸 Happy New Year…2024!😎 I’m so glad that you found & bought this fine old Ford truck! I drove a 65 C800 & really loved it. The cabs are very easy to access & work on. Your truck has the typical rust spots. That ledge behind the seats is only big enough for some speakers, lights & maybe some small bags or toolboxes. Keep in mind that you want things to be tied down up there as well. Anything loose can fly through the window or bounce around. They sure had it rigged up poorly. I hope it’s a 391 engine. That’s what mine had & with a 4 barrel carb. I bet yours was a rollback in the day. Tis a shame that they bent the frame! Some budd wheels would look super sharp on that truck. Mine had Dayton wheels as well. You will have a fine truck to represent your hobby. Good stuff. Blessings my friend.🤩🥰✌️

@tkskagen Жыл бұрын

If you where able to move the Rear Axle forward 2-3', upgrade to Full Air Suspension and obtain a Deck, this would be a "KILLER RAMP TRUCK"! OH YEAH, and get it to start & run...

@LTD347 Жыл бұрын

Should put a tilt slide on that old thing. Or shorten the frame and put an F350 dually long bed on it. I love the look of these trucks

@murraymadness4674 Жыл бұрын

I picked up a 1985 C700 that was a PG&E truck with the utility bed on it. It only has like 80k miles and I got it started up first try (once battery was fully charged), but it had a bad clutch slave cylinder, so could not drive it, and the right rear wheel has the brake locked up. It has air brakes, but they were not the problem. It has the Detroit Diesel 8.2L 4 stroke. It has modern 22.5 ten lug wheels is why I got it, since I also had a 72 C50 and it had the split rim tubed 20in wheels which are impossible to replace unless you remachine everything, which costs a fortune. You have dayton wheels, not split rims, those are ok. My cab is pretty rusted on the roof, but otherwise its ok. If you are interested in it, I'd sell it and you can swap your cab onto it. In California, commerical diesel trucks older than 2005 can't be registered anymore, but my plan was make it motorhome which is ok. Also, you need to check on the frame material as they used a hardened steel on big trucks that can't be welded on, not sure what year they started that, the older ones might still be mild steel, so you could try to fix your frame.

@jr42a1 7 ай бұрын

Had a 63 COE ...fair warning... If you put stuff on the back shelf behind the seat and tip the cab ,Everything on the shelf falls on the windshield and can break the window. Other than that? excellent truck.They were beasts

@InktronicsBlog Жыл бұрын

Wow! This brought back childhood memories. My dad used to drive one of these flatbeds all over the California Bay Area delivering carpet. He would take me along in the summers.

@donavontaylor6582 Жыл бұрын

I’m kinda glad you got out of that shop and started working on flips and cool trucks again originally why I watched your channel did it all without the fancy stuff

@ernieleithes6545 Жыл бұрын

Yeh great content in every episode and you can tell a great weight has been lifted of his shoulders.

@kevingreen1311 Жыл бұрын

Just love this old stuff. Good on ya.

@hackfabrication139 Жыл бұрын

I'm thinking the large knob is for a hand throttle, since there is a PTO driven hydraulic pump. The Dayton style wheels, can be swapped for the Budd style, but will take replacing the hubs, etc. Those aren't the 'killer' style split rims, but rather split ring type. Which have their own inherent dangers, especially when initially filling tires with air. Had those same style rims on my 1972 Peterbilt 352 COE.

@intrepid5684 Жыл бұрын

Your brother is a fantastic welder/fabricator, go to town on that frame.

@burtonbird5518 Жыл бұрын

On the fly your Dad has it all figured out. Need more like him. Time for a collaboration with KZfaqr "Adventures Made from Scratch". Every episode has Ford F600's brought in just he can scrap them. Good resource if nothing else. Or a collaboration with Morske n Duff. He knows what's hanging around in a tree row somewhere...Cheers 🥂

@daytonafuntim Жыл бұрын

Always especially love the videos with your dad and the old Fords 😍

@sylvainr.399 Жыл бұрын

Finally, dad is back!!!!

@danielmcbriar1672 Жыл бұрын

JR what about swapping the cab to a school bus. You'd get a strong frame with a cummins and then have a spare engine and drive train for something else. Would be great to have a flatbed and a project with Papa Ross 😁

@Tele_gram_me_Young_Static Жыл бұрын

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@tonytabacchi3772 Жыл бұрын

That has a 370 2V, which is the LIMA series engine family. (370 4V and 429 4V, similar to the 385 passenger and light truck 429/460). I believe these engines replaced the FT series (330, 361, 391) in 79. This truck is going to be a 79-84, based upon the engine and the lack of a front emblem. The lightning bolt emblem was used all the way up through 1974. Then no emblem until 85, when they started using the Ford oval. These trucks were produced from 1957-1990.

@kencrouch668 Жыл бұрын

I just knew it! First your brother got involved then here comes your dad! I bet your dad had a really important business call and saw you and your brother working on the truck and said - I'll call you back later. I have to go! My favorite part was - JR - the frame is messed up! We can use the rear end for something and maybe the engine!

@stevesnvegas9040 Жыл бұрын

I fast forwarded most of this until I saw dad show up. Always good when he's on.

@instantwagner Жыл бұрын

John Lumbert is buying so many news toys he has so much money.

@commonsence1129 Жыл бұрын

Man I love watching these old semi trucks start up after being abandoned for so long. Hope your able to save her fingers crossed.

@BFVgnr Жыл бұрын

Back to the classic days, like back when I first started watching the channel. Your dad's awesome 'I know all about bending frames'

@Vegasoutlaw Жыл бұрын

You should make that truck the JR recover truck and pick it all your furniture projects. Keep it

@Tele_gram_me_Young_Static Жыл бұрын

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@christophergray4024 Жыл бұрын

The black nameless knob in the middle of the dash is probably for your idle. Once you get it running, you can pull it out to increase your idle then turn it to lock it in place. I used to drive trucks and alot of the older trucks had that. (Could also be used as a rudimentary cruise control but I wouldn't recommend it.) The 2 speed rear end isn't a splitter like in semi trucks. You should be either stopped or only going at a walking speed at most when you change rear end ratios. Try that at 10+ mph and you might find that beefy rear end all over the road.

@tn65s Жыл бұрын

Wrong it's a splitter,

@brucebelitz3451 Жыл бұрын

I love that truck, sure hope you can save it and put it to work.

@reggeckmann3993 Жыл бұрын

Tons of farm trucks in Kansas and Nebraska should be great to grab one off the farm. They are everywhere!! I am behind this project! Awesome JR!

@derekwells4201 Жыл бұрын

A friend of mines dad used to have one of those the hauled hay with it had a fifth wheel plate on the back. The big space between the seats and the back of the cab is for a sleeper his had a really narrow mattress back there

@69Dartman Жыл бұрын

Your gonna need a bigger garage... 🤣 Those are cool old trucks.

@BradColemanisHere Жыл бұрын

Fun! Hey, I know not every seller is up for it but whenever you get a chance to film the going-to-purchase trip and the purchase and getting it home, that's cool.

@SomeSkillStudio Жыл бұрын

I hope you find a frame, I want to see this one fully rebuilt

@bdpopeye Жыл бұрын

When I was stationed in the Philippines,1975-'77, my division had a cab over Ford . BUT ours was the semi version with a flatbed trailer. It was a gas engine. We hauled air-launched ammunition with it.

@welles28 Жыл бұрын

"Are we really here to do things the smart way?" - John Ross' mission statement.

@sdz9850 Жыл бұрын

I believe that Freshn'd Air fan has a GE motor. Should also have a pull chain with a little tag on the end. Cool fan.

@davidgreenwood8880 Жыл бұрын

Maybe cut the frame and make it a short wheel base. with a flat bed.

@peterwilliams3202 Жыл бұрын

Back in the day they called these trucks… Belly button trucks…every one has one!

@1SagaciousMage Жыл бұрын

That takes me back... I drove one of those into the neighbors house when I was a kid. That guy is probably still pissed.

@handbanana6843 Жыл бұрын

The truck reminds me of almost every CHiP's episode!

@jimdieseldawg3435 Жыл бұрын

Hi JR 🙂 I’ve seen a couple of rat trucks built using this classic cab and a more modern F-650 chassis converted to accept it. Might be easier/quicker than trying to find a better original chassis - particularly as it also offers the option of air-ride rear axle without further effort. So, cabover you have + ex-Penske (or a hundred other companies) air-ride box truck + sell the box and taillift = cool Ford truck for cheap 🙂🤟🏼