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man the girl meets world plot of maya just "acting like riley" was the DUMBEST thing I'd ever heard

The fact that Mason wouldn't leave her alone while she lives with Harper was weird! The old Mason would've respected her feelings and stayed friends with her. They made Mason super pushy and overly possessive and I never understood why. The Wizard of the Year episode was completely out of character for him.

Riley was like the biggest disappointed for me because I used to related so much to her when I was in middle school; being the bright kid who's actually very insecure and stuff. But then they made her be this toxic person who dislikes seeing her friend becoming a better person??? what??? and the whole love triangle thing still gives me nightmares. Girl Meets World could've been a lot better :(

There was a "Shake It Up" episode near the end where CeCe is accidentally put into an honors class and surprises everyone (including herself) with her intelligence. They even had her go on a really cute date with a smart guy. I liked how that showed some real development in her character, but then they let the whole thing drop.

I hate that these DCOMS have the bad person be good at the end, and then they go back to being the "bad" person in the next movie

the whole "maya becomes riley" plot was actually so stupid. like they took away who maya was because she was "morphing into riley" and that she only liked lucas because of that? it made absolutely no sense. they took the maya OUT of maya, and it was really disappointing.

Honestly I forget that Cece talking to Rocky about her dyslexia was actually a pretty well done scene.

Disney just has this bad trope of making characters dumber over time

The boys of Descendants in general needed more attention. I'm also including Ben in there as well. He was the soon to be King and he was barely there in the second and third movie.

I feel with the sharpay argument, there is one thing going on. Yes, she was the alpha in high school, but as soon as she enters the real world, it makes sense that she has to learn the value of hard work and there will always be someone bigger and more powerful than you. Sharpay learns and experiences this in the film. At least she found herself again in the end.

Maya was *actually, extremely* gaslighted in the back end of GMW and I want to write a full essay on it someday

I felt there was somewhat gaslighting towards Maya. She herself knew she was growing and becoming mature but the people around tried to convince her that she was turning into Riley. She knew she was herself.

You should do "Top 10 Disney Characters Everyone Love That I Hate"

I feel like the worst thing disney has ever done was the love triangle

For me at least I truly feel like Emma from Jessie was ruined since on Jessie she started out as a really sweet, girly and a very fashionable teenage girl who strives to do her best with everything she does, despite being a bit of an airhead. She was shown to be somewhat ditzy at times, but was actually extremely intelligent and has displayed the intellectual edge over many people. Yet as shown on Bunk'd she just became a stereotypical dumb blonde girl which was really disappointing to see because I always loved Emma and they ruined her character.

In Lab Rats, I feel like the whole main cast just became more of stereotypical archetypes by the end of the series. They were interesting early on, but by the time it reached the Bionic Island, Adam was the strong, dumb mentor; Bree was the pretty girl; and Chase was the nerd. Only Leo felt a bit more natural. The rest of them were just stereotypes so that there could be a larger focus on the bionic side cast.

ok am I the only one who didn’t even know Mac from Teen Beach had a last name?🤣

I honestly think that Zack and Cody ruined Maddy/ie she started off as a hard working smart girl who's trying to prove herself because she doesn't have as much money. But then she became kind of bratty and was always trying to prove that even though she doesn't have as much money as London she was better

Honorable mention should be London Tipton who got somehow dumber and dumber throughout the show and had so many plot holes in the basis for her stupidity that I started to feel sorry for Brenda Song through watching Suite Life on Deck. Like London was always dumb, and yet she had touching moments where she could actually make smart observations about the people around her and she was compassionate and had instances where you saw how lonely she was. By the time she was on the SS Tipton, she got less compassionate, more stupid, like dangerously stupid, and her backstory became thinner and thinner. Really disappointing. She made a lot of progress on the first show, and they completely washed her out in the second show.

I always thought, that Riley & Maya didn't wanted to let Lucas chose. They wanted to make this decision themselves to save their friendship. It always felt, that they didn't allow Lucas to have an opinion on the whole triangle. He needed to shut up & let them figure it out. I kinda hated that he didn't had a say (at least it felt like that to me).

They ruined Maya. I loved Maya. They changed Maya then said she was pretending then changed her back. Like no. Edit: It was like they realized rucas is a bad idea and went with lucaya so the could do riarkle but then wanted farlke and smackle together so they backed up from the idea of lucaya so riley could have a love interest

I would add London Tipton from her change between The Suite Life of Zack and Cody to On Deck. She had so much potential in z&c, which we saw in episode where she was poor or when her stepmom came. Her relationship with Maddie also played a major part in what made her character so good and feel more realistic. I feel like On Deck should have allowed us to see her relationship with Bailey get better. But instead of taking the good qualities that her and Maddie had, they instead chose to just have London say all these negative things about Bailey. Also I feel like her character got even more dumb than she was in the first season of Zack & Cody. However I am not too upset by that, because Brenda Song made like every dumb line hilarious (she doesn’t get the credit she deserves)

I’ve never heard anyone talk about mason like this, and I completely agree. I always felt like he was being unfair in those episodes but most people brush past his behaviour. You’re the voice of the people

Finally! Someone else realises that Mason was ruined by Disney trying to make a jealous bf storyline.

Honestly, I really didn’t like the Girl Meets World love triangle. I think the show would have been better with out it, or a smaller version of it.

Mal and Audrey from Descendants should be included on this list in my opinion for the way they drastically changed in Descendants 3. Mal went from living in the isle of the lost and wanting to help them in d1, then wanting to go back to it in d2, and then wanting to permanently close the barrier in d3 forgetting about all the people who don’t deserve to be there. While Audrey seemed like she was going to be nice based on the end of the first movie, but then went back to being all jealous and stuff in D3

My number one ruined character is Ryan Evans. In HSM2, he realized how selfish Sharpay was and that she was only holding him back, stepped away and had such great character development. We saw that he was kind, sensitive and a great friend. Then in HSM3 (which I know isn't a DCOM, so maybe he doesn't count haha), he just went back to scheming and such. He isn't awful in HSM3, but I definitely feel like they threw half of his character development out the window and made him a slightly nicer Sharpay instead of his own character like they did in the second movie.

going off of the cece character development, I feel nick did the same thing with cat from victorious. she was a normal teen that just was a little more giggly, bubbly and a little air headed, but she wasn't really stupid. after the first season they made her this really dumb girl who couldn't have even passed 6th grade, like you said "stereotypical dumb character", changing her voice from more teen like to more babyish, changed her entire wardrobe from fashionable dresses and heels to jeans and flats with her hair the exact same way everytime. Got even worse I feel in the sam and cat spinoff. and it made me sad to see. not Disney, but just needed to vent because the cece one reminded me of it

Caitlin: This is basically the opposite of that video, but I do what I want Caitlin: (talking about braids) I’m living my best life I LOVE THIS CONFIDENCE!!

Audrey from Descendants is the worst one. They made it seem like she and Jay were going to become a thing. Same with Sharpay. They made it seem like she was going to date, Zeke. I thought Cassandra in Tangled the Series gets pretty extreme.

How Soy Luna started : Monica just cooked lobster correct and that’s how they made up a whole story (edit thank you so much for the likes😄)

I always thought that Ben from decendents went downhill after the first movie

Watching those two Cece clips actually made me sad. Watching her vent about her dyslexia to then be the "dumb character" seems possibly cruel

I completely agreed with Carlos and Jay!!!! I mean they have this cute scene in D2 when Carlos is tired of Eve and Mal letting them out of important talks because all of them are family and in D3 they COMPLETELY FORGOT ABOUT THAT

in the second CeCe clip, you'd think *her mom, brother and best friend* would remember she has dyslexia, and take the precedent to help with organizing the trip, etc, but instead she gets antagonized. it's like the writers forgot that aspect of her character, which makes her development look even worse

I almost had to skip through the Maya rant because it still makes me so angry to this day

Towards the end of the show CeCe was a terrible friend. No sane person tricks their best friend into flying to LA against their will.

Oh don’t worry, Eugene was DEFINITELY ruined. He was third-wheeled in favor of Cassandra, demoted to comic relief, barely taken seriously by anybody in Corona even though he SAVED THE PRINCESS, and painted in the wrong when he told Rapunzel to let go of her abusive friendship with Cass. Tangled the Series did Tangled so dirty and everyone in that show (except King Frederic and Cass because they SUCK) deserved way better, especially Eugene.

I’m just kinda mad at the whole world of zombies. They tried so hard to get people to accept zombies in the first movie and then the second movie rolls around with the werewolves and everyone immediately does the same thing they did to the zombies. Including the zombies themselves. Almost all the characters were back to where they were in the beginning of the first movie.

Justin from Wizards...somewhere during the end of season 3 and throughout season 4 Justin became ruder? and more cynical? idk maybe it’s just me but he was so sweet and all of a sudden he was making all the worst decisions like his video message to Alex during her banquet, it’s understandable that he would be upset that Alex got that award but I feel as though Justin wouldn’t have gone to the full extent of filming himself ranting off on her like how it happened on the show

Another great example of the dumb comic relief character that started off pretty good from the first episode but then fell into that type is Chelsea from That's So Raven.

I’m sure there was once a Descendants theory that Jay actually is Aladdin’s son but Jafar kidnapped him or something? But I’m not sure how that works out with the timing, but it’s a pretty neat theory

Chelsea should have made it for the original that's so raven. She got dumber overtime

I feel like at least half of the descendants cast could be used for this. Carlos, Jay, Ben, Audrey, Mal, Dizzy, the twins, etc. You get the idea, they just really didn’t do solid, long lasting character development on a lot of them.

i agree with the descendants boys being underdeveloped, and it's like, part of me gets it bc, a lot of the times, girls are the ones getting less storylines so the fact that they flipped it is nice, and there is the whole thing of marketing to young girls, but the other, bigger part of is like, while i understand that having 4 main characters can make each of them having a developed storyline hard, the core four are a group and they are the CORE FOUR and so i was very much looking forward to having them ALL get storylines. but as you said, in the second movie, jay's individual story was literally 3 scenes in total and carlos had maybe 4 dedicated to him. and in the 3rd movie, it was even less there, like in my head, he and gil have a whole happily ever after but it is in my head, so pretty useless. there was that deleted scene of carlos being sad that jay was leaving for a different college, and i feel like that could've been their storyline, the college thing, like carlos mentioning he got into a vet program, and maybe his sadness at their friend group being apart for the first time since they got to auradon, and having their whle adventure make him realize that they'll always be a part of each other's lives. maybe we could even set up the gil thing by having jay say something at the start of like im cool being the only single person in our group, i would need someone able to keep up with me, and so when gil and him start bonding, we'd know in a more direct manner that gil might be the one for him. it would still be not a lot, but at least it would be something. i think about this a bit too much for my liking

the wizard of the year episode was my absolute LEAST favorite bc of how horrible mason was

Tbh, I didn't really like Mason and my main reason was everything that he did in the wizard of the year episode.

Another character they did dirty has to be Ally Dawson from Austin and Ally just saying

And Cece’s “dumb” moments were usually just mistakes CAUSED BY HER DYSLEXIA!! Her misreading the email, not comprehending the scale on the map. So it’s even more upsetting to see her family and best friend basically call her stupid for something she can’t control. It’s really disturbing honestly

The stuff with CeCe is so sad and frustrating! Especially when you think about that a lot of the mistakes she made in the season three clip are likely a result of her dyslexia. I'm dyslexic, and struggle a lot with maps and can totally see myself misreading that email. To see all the characters berating CeCe for something she has no control over and having zero empathy for her is so hard to watch. The show really shouldn't have turned CeCe into dizzy comic relief, but the least they could have done was provide the actual context to why she sometimes gets in binds like the France trip. Not that it would have been easy to do that in a non-ableist way. The fact that the show just forgot she was dyslexic or didn't care enough to do anything with it is so frustrating. I'm glad Disney channel has made strides with characters like TJ from Andi Mack who has dyscalculia. They have a long way to go with representing disability, but at least they've grown since Shake It Up.

I love Eugene Fitzherbert with my whole heart but I do agree that he feels different in the show in comparison to the movie version. I feel like the writers blurred the lines between his confidence and flirty personality to having a big ego, and it makes his character come off as annoying and a nuisance. They never let him develop as his own character and he just becomes Rapunzel's boyfriend, even though his past and trauma are just as complex as Rapunzel's. His sole purpose in the show is being comic relief, which falls flat most of the time considering most of it centers around him being arrogant.

Honestly I 100% AGREE with the whole Mason thing!! That's the reason why I can't decide if I like Alex better with Dean or Mason Edit: I do absolutely LOVE Alex and Mason at first and they are so cute and funny! But when he gets really annoying is when they get annoying. And I think Alex and Dean's first kiss episode is sooo cute and sweet

Disney: We want to make a sequel to this movie, who should we have as the antagonist? Employee: Remember that mean girl in the first film that turned nice at the end? Disney: ... yeah? Employee: her. Moral of the story, Disney channel can not do character development Also the love triangle ruined their characters and the show :(

Bob from Suite Life of Zack and Cody was dyslexic! There was the episode when Zack faked having dyslexia to get accomodations in school

Feel like CeCe is definitely on here

I definitely agree about the Eugene point. He got slightly relegated to comic relief. While I adore what they did with Cassandra, she kinda just took Eugene's place.

No one really talks about Max russo. I hated how they would give him depth and actual emotions but then make him the “dumb character” again, I liked how they gave him a girlfriend but they just quickly went over that and I don’t even know what happened with her. I wish Max had more character development

With Sharpay, I feel like her change of character makes sense at least. She was such a headstrong and bossy character who always got what she wanted in HSM. But the real world of theater will humble you fairly quick. You can't expect to land all the lead roles as a newcomer. She is incredibly talented there's no denying that. But her accomplishments in high school don't hold much weight compared to that of the others who have been doing theater on broadway for years. There's always going to be someone above you. She got humbled and learned to work hard and eventually found herself at the end of the film.

Now all I see is Jay as Aladdins son who Jafar stole..... I really don’t know what to think anymore

Totally agree with Eugene in Tangled the series. Can't place it, but something was off

London Tipton! Like she was always the dumb comic relief character even the original Suite Life, but at least she had some depth and was actually friends with the other characters. In Suite Life on deck, her dumbness was just so exaggerated, she wasn't really friends with anyone, and it seemed like her whole personality revolved around how much she didn't like living with Bailey. The moment with Mosby at the end of the show was like her only deep moment

I agree with your point about Eugene. I love him so much in the movie but in the show he was just not himself in a way. I might just like him less in the show cause I keep comparing him to Cass but like idk he seemed less iconic in the show

It's so sad what they did to Cece. They did it to Chelsea on That's So Raven too - she started out as silly and a little random, but by the end of the show they'd written her to have the IQ of an empty plastic bag. She was even one of the best singers on that show (she's on Broadway now for Pete's sake). Especially given the first clip you picked of Cece, it looks like this type of "character development" has gotten even worse.

Forget “ruin character of Mack Fox” THAT ENTIRE MOVIE WAS RUINED

GMW, they said it's a story about friendship, then make the love triangle, and then, they say AGAIN that it's about friendship. You know what I think? It's about Rilaya, it's a love story about Riley and Maya, with a bit of their friendships and family, just like BMW, but not as good. I love the show, but it just doesn't compare to BMW

How hard is it to make new and interesting plotlines for characters instead of just scrapping it and doing it again, but worse

Have you noticed that how in many recent disney channel shows they always make the first couple the endgame ship??? Like in wizards of Waverly place and hannah Montana they get to have multiple relationships and their endgame relationships are not the ones they started the show with,, but in good luck Charlie, girl meets world etc they make the s1 ships the final ship???

I rewatched WOWP recently and I forgot how dirty they did Mason. It felt like they were forcing toxic traits on him to make stakes and drama

Jay & Carlos were done SO dirty!!! They deserved more focus and plotlines. Also the Jay as Aladdin's kid theory I think actually has a ton of fanfic behind it and it's not bad

The girl meets world plot made me so mad. All of maya’s friends basically said “ We don’t like that your happy now, that you have moved past your dad leaving, that you realize school is important, and that your dressing like an adult. Please turn back into an angry hurt child so that you can be ‘real’ again.” Like that is not how growing up works, and if your “friends” treat you like it is? There not your friends.

The thing I hate about the Delfi story arc is that she broke Pedro’s heart and that breaks my heart. 💔

They did Maya dirty, Riley became such an abusive friend

oh god your comment about Aladdin being Jay's dad just made me remember a 2015 tumblr theory/headcanon/maybe fanfic? that basically said the same thing, I think the theory was that Jafar kidnapped Jay as a baby

I just want to say with the whole “Maya becoming Riley” thing I think Maya actually had feelings for Riley and that’s why she started dressing similar to her (it’s common for girls who aren’t straight to mistake crushes for “I just want to be like them”) even still that whole plot line is a mess and they did not need to give Maya an intervention for dressing different

Eugene in the series lost his danger, he felt off to me

They really did Maya so dirty in GMW, Maya finally became herself, who she wanted to be and everyone just said “Oh no, you’re just turning into Riley!” When she had actually had character development! She seemed fine the way she was but everyone was trying to convince her that it wasn’t her?! They shouldn’t have controlled her like that. They really ruined Maya.

I’m glad someone is talking about the Mason thing. He started out really sweet and great. Then, after he comes back, his character is kind of whiny and he constantly begs Alex. He always calls her lazy or selfish and doubts her abilities. He also seems self-centered and vain, like when he gets captured by the fake authorities because he was admiring himself in a mirror. So, he doesn’t respect Alex’s wishes in the WOTY episode and the apartment episodes. Then, in the final episode, though he is cheering for her, he keeps bringing up how he had no faith in her and how he’s a little embarrassed rooting for her. That just really bothered me. Less awful, 8n my opinion, is his behavior in Alex vs Alex. He picks the wrong Alex specifically because he doesn’t think she would possibly do something nice for Harper. Alex even acknowledges this in the end, when she says Harper is the only person who is happy with who Alex is. It was very disappointing and jarring, because, at his best, Mason is great. At his worst, he’s downright horrid.

I think the worst part about Cece is that when they establish she has dyslexia and then go on to make her the "dumb character" it gives a bad rep to people with Dyslexia.

not disney but tina from glee!!! i really liked her in s1 - 3, but then they made her mean and bossy :/

if Maya or lucas arent on this list, im out

I’m in the boat that svtfoe was ruined bc the crew didn’t know how to write the overarching plot they wanted + were too focused on fanservice and shipping :/ I was never a starco fan but starco shippers deserved better than what they got BY FAR

I completely agree about Mason! I was always so confused why people love him when he left such a bad taste in my mouth from those episodes. I get the earlier season love for him but I’m glad you said it!

I feel like CeCe ended up like Eric Matthews but the writers of Shake It Up and Bella's comedic timing wasn't as well done as Will Friedle's timing and the writing on Boy Meets World

I feel like Moon from Star vs The Forces of Evil was also quite ruined aswell especially when Star started being this activist persona idk if that's just me though

I never got around to finishing Soy Luna but I definitely agree with Delfi, they completely ruined her character arc. I stopped watching at episode 13 of season 2. But yeah her character does a WHOLE 180. It made me really sad cuz she became one of my favorite characters :/

As a kid I used to LOVE mason and Alex together, but as an adult I realize he was actually really toxic because he told another girl he never stopped loving her, was so jealous of a friend of his girlfriend that he physically attacked her friend who was there for her when he wasn’t, then didn’t respect her boundaries. Like I miss the mason that painted Alex in chalk and truly loved Alex

3:16 I love when people refer to her as "Tess from camp rock" even in or out of context, cause it reminds me so fondly of Julia Cudney in her mean girls 2 video (mean girls 2 is a garbage movie)

I'm so glad you mentioned Eugene! I've always felt that his character was lackluster, and I think it's because Eugene has almost all of his character development happen in Tangled the movie. In the series, there really isn't much else done with his character (and sometimes he even reverts back to some of his egotistical ways, and I struggle to discern if that's really his character or if he's just being used as comedic relief in those contexts). Overall I don't think they ruined his character but I think there was just a lack of potential, and Tangled the series is so much more about Rapunzel and Cas than anyone else, who were REALLY great so I'm ok with it

The map clip for Cece is a huge pet peeve of mine, especially since I also have dyslexia. Like reading maps can be super difficult and everyone in that group know that she has the condition. Why not ask one of the others to navigate? Why not get her an electronic eReader that would audibly explain the text and symbols on the map and the phone? The writers either forgot or simply don't understand the disorder / accommodations that can be made for it

About Mason: In the special when they found out that he is a werewolf, Mason said that werewolf are very passionate (I didn't saw in english so i don't know his exact words) and thats why he said out of nowhere that he never forget Juliet. I think they use that excuse and the fact that Alex save him of being a wolf forever to make him needy and jealousy. Storywise, I think at first he was playing cool boyfriend until Alex realize he was a werewolf and then the world went down (he became a wolf, she transform him back almost and then everyone looked at him diferently for one episode). And after that he starts to show that he is jealous and a bit possessive (and that was a type that Alex used to have and like). But, like Alex, he has to work out these traits, which is more difficult for him because of his werewolf side. But scriptwise I think his cool side was over and It was time to make him a comic relief (I didn't like this), and he became that way for writers make jokes about his antics. 🤷

The Nina and gaston points are so true and it just makes me so so sad.

🎶I'm mad at disney disney🎶

I also didn’t like Mason during those episodes and still to this day wish Chase (beast tamer) had more episodes with Alex before Mason and Alex got back together because I loved Alex and Chase’s chemistry

this is soooooo not relevant to the majority of the video but fun fact: Bob in zack and Cody is also dyslexic (zack hears that Bob is dyslexic and pretends he is too to get more time on his tests)

My ex has dyslexia and honestly thinking back to this made me so mad. In the Paris episode, they could've had Rocky stand up for her and say "You're her mom, you know about her condition! Why didn't you check her work?"

"Sharpay would never idolize someone, especially someone who doesnt deserve it" Ok but she had a huge crush on Troy Bolton for three films when he is just terrible (I know hot take, but I think Troy is trash and both Sharpay and Gabriella deserved better)

Disney soooo ruined almost every character in descendants during descendants 3. Before mal was edgy and fun and then she became just “girl power and friendship” all the characters became cringe and the only one that stayed the same pretty much was evie

I think Sharpay is more insecure ib her own movie bc she is not in East High anymore. I mean, she played the main character of all the spring musicals East High presented, so she was confident enough to act like the queen she is. However, when she is outside this bubble, and she discovers how Broadway really works, she becomes aware that she is not the one out there. So, maybe that's why Sharpay lets someone be over her, because she starts feeling insecurities after realizing that nobody, except East High students, will treat her like "the queen".

Ohmygosh the Delfi thing made me so mad!! The scene in season 1 where she was talking to Nina about choosing to be good and stuff made me smile so big! And we did get so many good Delfi scenes at the end of season 1!! And I'm glad she was good for more than a season after that but still it made me really sad that they did that to her character!