Camelback Drill Press Gears 2: Cutting Gear Teeth on the First Gear

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Keith Rucker - VintageMachinery.org

Keith Rucker - VintageMachinery.org

Жыл бұрын

Camelback Drill Press Gears 2: Cutting Gear Teeth on the First Gear
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@Hoaxer51
@Hoaxer51 Жыл бұрын
Something satisfying about seeing a gear cutting video, I guess it’s just the precision of the whole part.
@Cavemannspace
@Cavemannspace Жыл бұрын
I can see runout in the arbor shaft, like watching a jumping rope. You might want to set that shaft between centers and check the runout in the center. Fine video as always!
@VoidedWarranty
@VoidedWarranty Жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing. Worth checking, but it might just be the spacers running out
@ellieprice363
@ellieprice363 Жыл бұрын
This type of setup always runs out due to the accumulation of clearances. The long shaft has some runout. The cutter bore is slightly larger than the shaft. The cutter OD is not perfectly true with the bore, and the bushing the shaft runs in has some running clearance. All of these tolerances cause cutters on horizontal shafts to run slightly eccentric.
@brand-x7049
@brand-x7049 Жыл бұрын
@@ellieprice363 Along with all the spacers that may not be square and parallel - I've seen perfectly straight arbors pulled into a bow from one bad spacer.
@paulcopeland9035
@paulcopeland9035 Жыл бұрын
@@ellieprice363 Ellie, thank you for taking the time to explain the process. Very patient of you! Every damn time Keith or a number of other machinists on KZfaq use a horizontal mill, there are the "experts" that have to be reminded of how things work in the real world.
@Cavemannspace
@Cavemannspace Жыл бұрын
@@ellieprice363 Thanks.
@petegraham1458
@petegraham1458 Жыл бұрын
Nice work as usual, I enjoy following along it’s nice to see old equipment being kept in repair and in service still functional!
@artszabo1015
@artszabo1015 Жыл бұрын
Yes Sir, very well spoken.
@ChristianHunt-qw2ki
@ChristianHunt-qw2ki Жыл бұрын
I think that your arbour is slightly out of true, hence perhaps the uneven cutting? You can see the out of true in the video. Try rolling it across a flat surface to check and you could apply the Keith Fenner straightening method?
@edsmachine93
@edsmachine93 Жыл бұрын
Good morning Keith. I am having coffee watching this. Cheers ☕️, everyone watching. Very nice work, outstanding. Very interesting series. Thanks for sharing. Take care, Ed.
@UKDrew
@UKDrew Жыл бұрын
This was so cool... Would really love to see you machine a Herringbone gearset.
@llapmsp
@llapmsp Жыл бұрын
Always like to see gear cutting. Thanks for sharing.
@StevenEverett7
@StevenEverett7 Жыл бұрын
I truly enjoyed watching you create these beautiful pieces of art.
@timziegler9358
@timziegler9358 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely wonderful job on making that gear! Best wishes.
@tomnorman5461
@tomnorman5461 Жыл бұрын
22:12 Your Arbor Press looks like it needs to be leveled Keith, the gear looks great...you the man!
@GeorgeWMays
@GeorgeWMays Жыл бұрын
Super video. You have turned a Good Friday into a really good Friday. Thanks. It's appreciated.
@alt-w7130
@alt-w7130 Жыл бұрын
Love how you explain and show the procedures.
@williamgamache2882
@williamgamache2882 Жыл бұрын
Thanx for the video ! Always a pleasure to learn from you. Please keep up the good work and I am looking forward to the next.
@paulkinzer7661
@paulkinzer7661 Жыл бұрын
Another great video, showing the use of tools and tooling I can only wish I had!
@joewhitney4097
@joewhitney4097 Жыл бұрын
Turned out great for the first gear. Thanks for sharing.
@mdlanor5414
@mdlanor5414 Жыл бұрын
As always, excellent machining job making this gear
@jackpledger8118
@jackpledger8118 Жыл бұрын
Very nice work Keith.
@normesmonde5332
@normesmonde5332 Жыл бұрын
Great stuff Keith Monday’s experts abound
@walterplummer3808
@walterplummer3808 Жыл бұрын
Good morning Keith. Looking good. Thanks.
@paulcooper2897
@paulcooper2897 Жыл бұрын
Looks great! Thanks for sharing 🇨🇦
@scrotiemcboogerballs1981
@scrotiemcboogerballs1981 Жыл бұрын
Great video thanks for sharing
@OldIronMachineWorks
@OldIronMachineWorks Жыл бұрын
Very nice Keith
@elsdp-4560
@elsdp-4560 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing. FAN-tastic job.👍
@roylucas1027
@roylucas1027 Жыл бұрын
Interesting video. Thank you.
@TheAyrCaveShop
@TheAyrCaveShop Жыл бұрын
Good looking gear Keith....Enjoyed !
@eastcoastwatch672
@eastcoastwatch672 Жыл бұрын
As a former jet engine mechanic, like you, we didn’t reuse bolts or cap screws as they were already stressed and stretched from original torquing.
@johngreatorex1234
@johngreatorex1234 Жыл бұрын
Hello Keith. I live in the UK so I will probably never be able to get to any of the meets you go to so it is unlikely that we will ever meet which I feel is a shame for me. I just want to say that I have been watching your channel for a long time now and I enjoy them very much but, also I have noticed how well you look at the moment. It’s good to see. I wish you well and I will continue to enjoy your posts. Best regards. John Greatorex. Derbyshire, England.
@wizrom3046
@wizrom3046 Жыл бұрын
At 9:27 when the lathe slows to a stop, it looks like the hub is very off centre compared to the lathe setup? Looks like about 40 thou off? Wasn't it important to get the gear concentric to the bolted hub?
@donteeple6124
@donteeple6124 Жыл бұрын
Excellent job Keith. After watching the vid numerous times, my eye picks up what I believe..... is that its NOT the cutter itself that has the run out, but the cross bar instead that appears to show a 3/4 thou to 1.5 thou runout/oscillation.....its clearly visible in many of the longer full frame sequences......its just enough to show a rhythmic up and down oscillation of the bar. Excellent excellent job as usual despite this minor problem....... Don
@s.m.aggies7220
@s.m.aggies7220 Жыл бұрын
Great work of making a gear, fun to view and learn, a thank you..... :)
@CraigLYoung
@CraigLYoung Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing 👍
@johnb6763
@johnb6763 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@Tammy-un3ql
@Tammy-un3ql Жыл бұрын
Nice work
@kimber1958
@kimber1958 Жыл бұрын
thanks Keit
@TonyHammitt
@TonyHammitt Жыл бұрын
Thoughts going back and forth between "geez, that seems like overkill" and "somehow those gears got chewed up". I hope the future of the drill press is better than its past...
@samhendrix378
@samhendrix378 Жыл бұрын
Good job
@johnkey1682
@johnkey1682 Жыл бұрын
Looks nice!
@catfishgray3696
@catfishgray3696 Жыл бұрын
KEITH, GREAT JOB AND GREAT VIDEO...LET'S GO TO WORK...
@grantnichols6765
@grantnichols6765 Жыл бұрын
Great content as always. I know video can cause optical illusions such as wheels moving the wrong direction, and color differences on a rotating object can make it look like it is wobbling even if it is not. That said it does look like your arbor is bent which would explain the excessive amount of runout you were experiencing from that cutter.
@chrisstephens6673
@chrisstephens6673 Жыл бұрын
Not criticising him but moving everything closer to the body of the mill and taking out some spacers and shortening the arbour would make things stiffer.
@LeonardRoberts
@LeonardRoberts Жыл бұрын
​@Chris Stephens was thinking somewhat the same idea, seems there is a potential for an error with each small spacer, even if had larger spacers might reduce error possibilties and stiffen the arbor shaft.
@chrisstephens6673
@chrisstephens6673 Жыл бұрын
@@LeonardRoberts I was thinking of fewer spacers and moving the end bearing and support arm inwards. Also move the dividing head over a T slot, providing there is room.
@VoidedWarranty
@VoidedWarranty Жыл бұрын
​@@chrisstephens6673on mine the whole shaft doesn't fit though the support bearing, only the end. Still for a little cutter like that I suspect it's fine. Sounded like it was cutting nice on the last pass.
@chrisstephens6673
@chrisstephens6673 Жыл бұрын
@@VoidedWarranty the over arm is adjustable for length surely.
@SciPunk215
@SciPunk215 Жыл бұрын
You would think by now Keith would have every single size of every single drill bit... but there's always another.
@melshea2276
@melshea2276 Жыл бұрын
Good Morning Georgia!😊
@51ubetcha
@51ubetcha Жыл бұрын
Keith, how did the helical cut timing gear for that engine work out? Did it work ok on the engine rebuild?
@Rorschach1024
@Rorschach1024 Жыл бұрын
Is there a timing component between the two gears? Does it matter where the teeth start?
@ruben_balea
@ruben_balea Жыл бұрын
I imagine these gears are from the feed mechanism, if so the worst that can happen is that the lever/wheel/crank used for manual feeding ends up resting at a slightly different angle...
@SPDLTD
@SPDLTD Жыл бұрын
Tisk Tisk Keith, 10-32 is a #21 drill. Just giving you a hard time ☺ Great video as usual!
@buckinthetree1233
@buckinthetree1233 Жыл бұрын
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe too slow of feed rate can cause a cutter to sound non concentric because the cutting teeth don't maintain contact throughout the cut.
@douglaslodge8580
@douglaslodge8580 Жыл бұрын
Nice job Keith.
@tacticalrabbit308
@tacticalrabbit308 Жыл бұрын
Question that heavy cut one side could that be so you have a relief cut for chips to clear out? And how do you cut internal splines to make a coupler for two shafts?
@tsirron
@tsirron Жыл бұрын
Good morning
@georgeescaped6035
@georgeescaped6035 Жыл бұрын
looks to me that the arbor that the cutter is on might be a little bent to make the cutter seem to be off center. looks like no problem with all the other work!!
@davidapp3730
@davidapp3730 Жыл бұрын
The clearance holes should have been all the way through the steel gear blank with the threaded section in the cast iron. It sounded like you only did the clearance deep enough for the counter bore. You could use an end mill bit to do the counterbore.
@sleepib
@sleepib Жыл бұрын
37 is prime, so aside from that the next hole patterns you could use would be 74 or 111 holes.
@arimadx
@arimadx 11 ай бұрын
Its funny how many people quote tom lipton. Hes an intelligent fella!
@MHolt3573
@MHolt3573 Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if he has said before but once he is do e with cutting a new gear does it have to be heat treated.
@greeceuranusputin
@greeceuranusputin Жыл бұрын
Should also oil the back side of the broach where it rubs the shims. I expect there's a lot of friction there.
@WilliamTMusil
@WilliamTMusil Жыл бұрын
Hiya Keith
@RobertKohut
@RobertKohut Жыл бұрын
Nice!! 🙂
@seancollins9745
@seancollins9745 Жыл бұрын
I need some splines cut on some transmission parts, this something you would be interested in ?
@stumccabe
@stumccabe Жыл бұрын
It looks like there's excessive runout on that arbor - is it straight?
@thepagan5432
@thepagan5432 Жыл бұрын
I was surprised to see you cutting the gear while locating on the outside diameter. The gear does not have to run concentric with the outside diameter, but with the bore. I spent 50 years working in the gear and gearbox industry. However if noise and vibration is not an issue then what has been made is adequate.
@davesublette7447
@davesublette7447 Жыл бұрын
I noticed you used cutting oil to cut the gear teeth, but not when drilling and tapping the holes. How do you decide when to use oil? Also, do you recycle the cuttings from the various metals and machines? Thanks....
@lukemeisenbach1964
@lukemeisenbach1964 Жыл бұрын
When in doubt, make it stout out of things you know about.
@KG-yn9qi
@KG-yn9qi Жыл бұрын
Losing weight👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 hope health stays well for you ! Yes we can tell!
@brianroberts4349
@brianroberts4349 Жыл бұрын
Looks like the arbor is bent?
@PhilG999
@PhilG999 Жыл бұрын
@16:20 or so. Is it just me but does that arbor look a little bent? I know with the spacers that might be an illusion... 🤔
@terrywright3359
@terrywright3359 Жыл бұрын
I know you can always work around and get the depth you need but it looks like you arbor the bent on that gear cutter. May want to check it with a dial indicator if the runout bothers you.
@silasmarner7586
@silasmarner7586 Жыл бұрын
I can't understand the 2nd half of the first sentence. and on the 2nd one, WHO may want to check it.. blah blah.
@glennstasse5698
@glennstasse5698 Жыл бұрын
Sure looks easy when Keith does it!
@bobbyvance6622
@bobbyvance6622 Жыл бұрын
The new broach area looked to be narrow. Was that acceptable?
@paulcopeland9035
@paulcopeland9035 Жыл бұрын
He said in the video that the 3/8th key fit perfectly. What is your bitch?
@youmanskids
@youmanskids Жыл бұрын
@@paulcopeland9035 it looks off to me too. just an observation
@therealme613
@therealme613 Жыл бұрын
You ever gonna lag down that arbor press to the concrete?
@flyingmaniac3827
@flyingmaniac3827 Жыл бұрын
lost a few pounds Keith look good on you man.
@oldschool1993
@oldschool1993 Жыл бұрын
Looks like the OD and ID are not concentric.
@stefanobertelli2650
@stefanobertelli2650 Жыл бұрын
You've got quite a bit of runout in the IDs of that assembly, isn't the gear supposed to be running true with respect to the id?
@johanea
@johanea Жыл бұрын
Hm, you seem to be more skinny... Good stuff and right way forward!
@MortimerKadaver
@MortimerKadaver Жыл бұрын
Lathe chuck - MADE IN POLAND ☺
@isverque74
@isverque74 9 ай бұрын
01 volta 03 furos no crivo de 37 furos.
@garybrenner6236
@garybrenner6236 Жыл бұрын
What happened to the Stoker Engine?
@paulcopeland9035
@paulcopeland9035 Жыл бұрын
I knew you would ask about that!! Thank you, my week is complete!!
@charlesmiles9115
@charlesmiles9115 Жыл бұрын
😛😛😛😛❤❤❤🦾🦾🦴👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@craigulatorOne
@craigulatorOne Жыл бұрын
hub
@grntitan1
@grntitan1 Жыл бұрын
#20 for a 10-32 in steel? I would have went with a #18.
@paulcopeland9035
@paulcopeland9035 Жыл бұрын
Drill chart on my wall says #21, so where do you get #18???
@grntitan1
@grntitan1 Жыл бұрын
@@paulcopeland9035 I got it from the old Cleveland Twist Drill chart on my shop wall. For a 32 pitch #10 in cast iron and steel a #18 provides a 50% thread. That same thread in aluminum and brass, you’d use a #21 for a 75% thread.
@rusty1597
@rusty1597 Жыл бұрын
@@grntitan1 50% Thread ??? Who would want that? Throw that chart in the junk.
@paulterhaar4218
@paulterhaar4218 Жыл бұрын
The old part has al small key in it on both sides. Doesn't the new one need that also? EDIT: I was to quick with my comment. Awesome job Keith!
@1903A3shooter
@1903A3shooter Жыл бұрын
HOW did you ensure that the second key way was 180 from the first. ?Dave.
@ruben_balea
@ruben_balea Жыл бұрын
The keyways in the cast iron hub guided the broach for the slight cuts in the gear
@paulcopeland9035
@paulcopeland9035 Жыл бұрын
Did you even watch the video?
@premierd8988
@premierd8988 Жыл бұрын
The cutter is always true ... its the bent arbour that is the problem .....................
@premierd8988
@premierd8988 Жыл бұрын
The bore is a mile off Keith........ but 'good enough '............... 😉
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