Steam Engine Gear 3: Cutting Keyways and Dowel Pinning the Bevel Gear

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Keith Rucker - VintageMachinery.org

Keith Rucker - VintageMachinery.org

11 ай бұрын

Steam Engine Gear 3: Cutting Keyways and Dowel Pinning the Bevel Gear
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@BillB23
@BillB23 11 ай бұрын
My dad started his career as an apprentice machinist. I appreciate the opportunity to get a clue as to what he did before the war. He retired as Director of Manufacturing Engineering at Lithonia Lighting, so the Georgia connection is icing on the cake. Thanks for tripling your work load to make these videos.
@thirzapeevey2395
@thirzapeevey2395 11 ай бұрын
Not only do I like your videos every time, I frequently share them in homeschool groups to get kids interested.
@monkeyboy4746
@monkeyboy4746 11 ай бұрын
I wonder if the key was supposed to be the "weak" part, someone adding the cut-off drill bits later took that away, so instead of the key shearing, the drill bits allowed the gear teeth to be sheared away instead.
@RobertBrown-lf8yq
@RobertBrown-lf8yq 11 ай бұрын
Hmmmmm….. Although I can’t see a .400” (steel ?) key shearing before a cast iron gear tooth… Robert
@paulsilva3346
@paulsilva3346 11 ай бұрын
I agree completely, with my experience with Machinery I went straight to that as the source and the root of the problem
@noelhenderson7337
@noelhenderson7337 11 ай бұрын
I would think that the pins would be better for, well, shear pins, than a cast in key. They can be replaced whereas the key would need to be milled off and another key way cut into the bevel gear. I am suspecting a field modification of some sort though. I grew up in farm country.
@douglasrogers3918
@douglasrogers3918 11 ай бұрын
Sounds right and the 400 thou sounds like it was a 10mm key!
@ellieprice363
@ellieprice363 11 ай бұрын
I would bet it was a double guarantee that the two gears would stay together. The cast gear teeth proved to be the weak points in this assembly.
@migueltorres6073
@migueltorres6073 11 ай бұрын
Thank You Keith for detailed account of keeping “old iron” running
@normsweet1710
@normsweet1710 11 ай бұрын
Thank You Keith for detailed account of keeping “old iron” running 👍❤️
@terminalpsychosis8022
@terminalpsychosis8022 11 ай бұрын
Thing of beauty. That's going to last far longer that trying to piece the old part together. It's just so satisfying too. For sure peace of mind knowing that piece is new and precision made by Mr. Rucker. As always, lovin these projects, large to small, and inbetween.
@LanceMcGrew
@LanceMcGrew 11 ай бұрын
46+ years in machining and first time seeing a co-axial indicator. Good grief why so late to the game. That is slick !!!
@CameronMcCreary
@CameronMcCreary 11 ай бұрын
Keith that is a beautiful job you've done making the gear. Those coaxial indicators are great to work with for bore location. It basically turns your milling machine into a precision boring machine.
@stuartschaffner9744
@stuartschaffner9744 11 ай бұрын
That was really fun to watch, Keith. It's fun to speculate why the biggest gear sheared rather than the smaller, and whether that was designed to be that way. All I can add is to speculate that the smaller gear, having a bevel geometry, takes more setup time to grind. Hence it is the more valuable part.
@oldfister7460
@oldfister7460 11 ай бұрын
I used to work for Cincinnati Gilbert for a couple of years, my wifes uncle worked there also as a foreman, I really appreciate your and all the other's creaters content of your video's.
@tropifiori
@tropifiori 11 ай бұрын
The finished part is very pretty really. If it were stainless you could use it as a machinists hood ornament .
@MickHealey
@MickHealey 11 ай бұрын
Really nice job Keith. Your customer should be really happy with that.
@dickdaley9059
@dickdaley9059 11 ай бұрын
Keith, your knowledge and skill along with your patience and instruction are remarkable. My greatest wish is to see young assistants who aspire to becoming machinists standing along with you. What a fabulous opportunity for learning a critical trade that will never go away. 🇺🇸⚓️ St Marys, GA
@Sagacity61
@Sagacity61 11 ай бұрын
Unless CNC is allowed to kill it off, which has to be prevented.
@dickdaley9059
@dickdaley9059 11 ай бұрын
I have the opinion that it is crucial to learn this trade from the basic metallurgy and tools before advancing to electromechanical and software controls. CNC is necessary and sensible in large production shops which can be attractive to young folks once they gain experience. I can attest that no one would have put me in the cockpit on a Boing 747 before I became fully certified piloting a little Cessna 172 Skyhawk. What we see Keith produce or fabricate takes much thought and planning to succeed. It would be a wonderful foundation for the right student.
@mudnducs
@mudnducs 11 ай бұрын
THAT, is a satisfying thing of beauty.
@andrewgill4390
@andrewgill4390 11 ай бұрын
That,s a thumbs from me I appreciate the time you put into the videos thank you Keith
@andrewrussellmalcolm
@andrewrussellmalcolm 11 ай бұрын
Fantastic work, as always, and very well explained
@SciPunk215
@SciPunk215 11 ай бұрын
Awesome!! Scratch this one off the list! I hope we can see some video of this steam engine somewhere down the line.
@scrivyscriv
@scrivyscriv 11 ай бұрын
I've been looking forward to seeing this part!
@michaelkoch2109
@michaelkoch2109 11 ай бұрын
Good job! Best regards from Dresden! 👍👏❤🛠😎
@ramshackle9876
@ramshackle9876 11 ай бұрын
Thanks Keith. Great content as usual .
@roylucas1027
@roylucas1027 11 ай бұрын
Great job! Enjoyed each and every step.
@geraldharkness8830
@geraldharkness8830 11 ай бұрын
fantastic keith love to see you make gears!
@recycokid
@recycokid 11 ай бұрын
Really nice work Keith. Thanks for sharing.
@waynephillips2777
@waynephillips2777 11 ай бұрын
Awesome job! I learn something every time I watch.
@lecnac855
@lecnac855 11 ай бұрын
Well done as usual.
@craykewindsor2634
@craykewindsor2634 10 ай бұрын
Enjoyed watching this. Perhaps cutting a helical gear in another vid. Thanks very much.
@marksigmon8388
@marksigmon8388 11 ай бұрын
Beautiful work!
@edsmachine93
@edsmachine93 11 ай бұрын
Nice work Keith. Excellent job. Thanks for sharing. 👍
@johncloar1692
@johncloar1692 11 ай бұрын
Nice job Keith, it look like a work of are. Thanks for sharing the video.
@DynamicSeq
@DynamicSeq 11 ай бұрын
Very satisfying to watch. Thanks for sharing..
@bcbloc02
@bcbloc02 11 ай бұрын
Turned out great!
@LM-sc8lu
@LM-sc8lu 11 ай бұрын
I’m always impressed with your work!
@csnelling4
@csnelling4 11 ай бұрын
Thank you Keith , brilliant job 👌🥇😊
@joopterwijn
@joopterwijn 11 ай бұрын
Nice job Keith! It looks so simple, but that’s because you have a ton of experience!
@michaelsimpson9779
@michaelsimpson9779 10 ай бұрын
Nice work as always
@AlmostMachining
@AlmostMachining 11 ай бұрын
Great job Keith!
@walterplummer3808
@walterplummer3808 11 ай бұрын
Good morning Keith. Nice job. thanks for the videos.
@MrRogsmart
@MrRogsmart 11 ай бұрын
Another good one Keith. Thanks
@TheUncleRuckus
@TheUncleRuckus 11 ай бұрын
Great video as always Keith! 👍👍
@rc166honda
@rc166honda 11 ай бұрын
Great work, thoroughly enjoyed this.
@melshea2519
@melshea2519 11 ай бұрын
Happy Friday 😊
@davidpainter4437
@davidpainter4437 11 ай бұрын
Another great video. Thank You!!
@tonyjones9715
@tonyjones9715 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for another great job and video.
@oleran4569
@oleran4569 11 ай бұрын
Nice job!
@williamdavis7094
@williamdavis7094 11 ай бұрын
thank you I really appreciate what you do
@rexmyers991
@rexmyers991 11 ай бұрын
Most impressive work. Thank you, Sir
@P61guy61
@P61guy61 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing this
@geckoproductions4128
@geckoproductions4128 11 ай бұрын
Very interesting, well done.
@shortribslongbow5312
@shortribslongbow5312 11 ай бұрын
Beautiful work, thanks for sharing. :o)
@elsdp-4560
@elsdp-4560 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing👍
@Sagacity61
@Sagacity61 11 ай бұрын
Brilliant. Thanks.
@thewarlordscalling6537
@thewarlordscalling6537 9 ай бұрын
Thank you
@scrotiemcboogerballs1981
@scrotiemcboogerballs1981 11 ай бұрын
Great video thanks for sharing
@scottthomas5999
@scottthomas5999 11 ай бұрын
Nice job on the gear!!
@Rog_Ramjet
@Rog_Ramjet 11 ай бұрын
I love to watch your work as an apprenticed engineering designer so I ask the question why it appears that the dowels are proud after being pressed home.
@thom3124
@thom3124 11 ай бұрын
Good morning. Very nice project.
@theoroma6883
@theoroma6883 11 ай бұрын
I would like to say how healthy you look with your weight loss. Thanks for your interesting videos.
@CraigLYoung
@CraigLYoung 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing 👍
@bjdiss
@bjdiss 11 ай бұрын
You might consider Loctite 609 or 620 for this application. These are retaining compounds as opposed to thread lockers.
@waynekeeler1442
@waynekeeler1442 10 ай бұрын
Nice job
@Skizziks_MAD
@Skizziks_MAD 11 ай бұрын
I worked in a teaching shop and we lost a lot of those center indicators to novice users trying them under power. You can get the coaxial indicator pretty close without running the spindle, with less chance of disaster. Line the probe up visually at "BDC" (close to you), run the X-axis back & forth 'til you get a maximum reading. You'll be on-center-ish in the X direction; set the dial at zero. put the spindle in neutral and turn it 180 so the probe is at "TDC" (far side) and see what's on the dial. Move your Y-axis half that difference. If the Y is close, you can put it in LOW gear and run the spindle under power to fine tune.
@ellieprice363
@ellieprice363 11 ай бұрын
I usually put the spindle in neutral and dial it in slowly by hand.
@dcobel60
@dcobel60 11 ай бұрын
As a young child i enjoyed watching "Mr. Rodgers" of the famous "Mr. Rodgers Neighborhood",,,,,,,,, it has just hit me that Keith is the embodiment of that show only in Metal! LMAO!!!
@RobertFay
@RobertFay 11 ай бұрын
*- Keith, at **18:49** I am sure the pin is below the bottom of the gear's cut, but it sure does not look like it is on the video.*
@williamsquires3070
@williamsquires3070 11 ай бұрын
I’d say those gear teeth are lined up dead nuts. 😊
@grandpaseed
@grandpaseed 11 ай бұрын
I saw a video of some people still manufacturing band saws like the jimmy you are working on. interesting to see. can not put the link directly in comments but if you search for the term (Largest Cutter Machine Making Process | How Unusal Big Cutter Machine Are Made ) you will find it . thanks!
@fireantsarestrange
@fireantsarestrange 11 ай бұрын
Nice work bud.
@billsmith8739
@billsmith8739 11 ай бұрын
Looks good!! Also liking your weight lost !!
@stancloyd
@stancloyd 11 ай бұрын
good job.
@scottkarjala
@scottkarjala 11 ай бұрын
now that's a arbor press!
@carlbyington5185
@carlbyington5185 11 ай бұрын
That little puny press..... Haha... I know somebody that has a bigger one, just not quite finished yet, LOL
@mrkevinp70
@mrkevinp70 11 ай бұрын
((BOOM)) Crushed it 👍
@keithroper7056
@keithroper7056 11 ай бұрын
Impressive.
@kennethstandley3178
@kennethstandley3178 11 ай бұрын
I often wish I could see the parts you build reinstalled, and the repaired device then returned to operation.
@tomford372
@tomford372 11 ай бұрын
Hi Keith! Enjoy your work! Thank you! Was wondering about the status of the digital drive project for the Monarch lathe....did I miss something on it??
@frankinpattaya
@frankinpattaya 11 ай бұрын
Keith,, nice job on the gear cutting,,, any news on the steam stoker rebuild,,or has it been finished and I missed it. ?? Regards Frank
@joepeanut6827
@joepeanut6827 11 ай бұрын
Been wondering about that also, and the Metal planer, there was supposed to be a job to do when the planer was finished, but never seen any videos.
@RobertKohut
@RobertKohut 11 ай бұрын
Nice!! 🙂
@WobblycogsUk
@WobblycogsUk 11 ай бұрын
Great work, I wonder why it wasn't made as a single piece though.
@stevejones9788
@stevejones9788 11 ай бұрын
Funny the difference between the American language and English. Chips are called swarf here in the UK
@GrahamY1970
@GrahamY1970 11 ай бұрын
Thnks for your videos, I really enjoy them. In this case with the coax indicator, I was under the impression that you can't use the actual divisions to mean anything due to the various lengths and angles you can set the pointer to (different lever lengths and cosine errors etc). Basically you are just after the least movement. I guess that if you DO want to know how far off you are in absolute numbers then you would have to rest the pointer on an edge and then move the table by a known amount to see what that know amount means on the dial with the angle used and the length of the pointer. Or am I misunderstanding how they work?
@ellieprice363
@ellieprice363 11 ай бұрын
It would work just as well without numbers on the dial. All you’re looking for is the needle not moving.
@timf6916
@timf6916 11 ай бұрын
Nice. Just asking about the cost of something like that. I don’t have to do an exact number but a ballpark number would be nice just to get an idea.
@gagasmancave8859
@gagasmancave8859 11 ай бұрын
I learn something hew every vid yoh piston k7eth many thanks I am now foing to have to add a coax indicator to my wish list lol
@rickdenney5772
@rickdenney5772 11 ай бұрын
Just guessing: The pins were probably added after the fact when the maker of the machine decided that the keyway was a weak point. The key is stronger than the teeth, it seems to me, but it may be that the force on the keyway was causing gears to crack at the root of the keyway, and adding the pins was a production-run workaround. Or maybe it's the other way around--pins first and then the key. If it was a problem with the keyway, then machining the slot with a radius at the bottom should have relieved the stress riser at the root of the keyway.
@ccrider5398
@ccrider5398 11 ай бұрын
Do you know why the big teeth on the spur gear failed while the bevel gear teeth look fine? It didn't look like the key sheared off, but then again, they had to pin it with the drill bits. Nice job with the pressing operations - smooth and steady - always better than hammering the pieces and pins.
@markholmes2023
@markholmes2023 11 ай бұрын
Keith am I right in thinking that the key on the bevel gear was cast into it. If so that would maybe explain why the keyway slot in the gear you were replicating was an odd size. This may also explain the use of the towel line to prevent the failure of the key during use.
@joepeanut6827
@joepeanut6827 11 ай бұрын
Those pins look like they are sticking up in to the gearway. looks like the matching angel gear is going to hit the pins.
@sfeddie1
@sfeddie1 11 ай бұрын
A beautifully made piece. But I can’t help but wonder how this gear is used. Does it spin on a shaft (no bearing?) or is it attached to a driven shaft? If so, how? There is no set screw or hole for a through-pin, or key way. Am I missing something?
@damionparson247
@damionparson247 11 ай бұрын
Do you ever get tempted to completely take the movement out of the needle when indicating a bore?
@artszabo1015
@artszabo1015 11 ай бұрын
Another great job done Keith!! I would love to see the machine this is for. Any chance of that??? Art from Ohio
@MeltiahNye
@MeltiahNye 11 ай бұрын
I would like to see the engine, too.
@hoppercar
@hoppercar 11 ай бұрын
Why didnt you use threaded pull dowels in case they ever have to come out ?????
@billh308
@billh308 11 ай бұрын
So it's done? Done with part of the dowel sticking up in between the gear teeth?
@paulcopeland9035
@paulcopeland9035 11 ай бұрын
That was the camera angle. You can stop the critisizing anytime! Do you honestly think he would leave the pin up in gear path??
@billh308
@billh308 11 ай бұрын
@@paulcopeland9035 I don't have to stretch the imagination to see what the video shows
@mathewritchie
@mathewritchie 11 ай бұрын
Maybe on some earlier repair someone decided that a key was not enough and added the pins?
@markdavies9912
@markdavies9912 11 ай бұрын
What is the point of the dowels given that the key stops it rotating?
@bryanlatimer-davies1222
@bryanlatimer-davies1222 11 ай бұрын
Other people have said the key might have been snapping in use, hence the pins. It's a bit like putting a 30 amp fuse in when the 3 amp one blows !
@danielelse3914
@danielelse3914 11 ай бұрын
It is so strange to hear a machinist say, "Aw, it's close enough." 😂
@ianpendlebury3704
@ianpendlebury3704 11 ай бұрын
Nice to see someone running one of these co-ax indicators at a sensibly slow speed.
@grntitan1
@grntitan1 11 ай бұрын
I know right. I’ve seen guys run them really fast. Should be run on back gears on the slowest speed. They really don’t even need powered at all. Take it out of gear and spin the spindle by hand. Just like the good old test indicator.
@Tammy-un3ql
@Tammy-un3ql 11 ай бұрын
👍👍👍
@platipuss777
@platipuss777 11 ай бұрын
Why the heck does blue loctite come in red tubes?!
@danielnorman8595
@danielnorman8595 11 ай бұрын
Did anybody else notice those chips coming out of the Durabar don't really look like cast iron chips? LOL you know you're a machinist channel addict when you start judging chips.
@paulcopeland9035
@paulcopeland9035 11 ай бұрын
Durabar is an extrusion. 'Normal cast iron' has a much coarser grain. If you haven't worked with it, give it a try. Durabar is on the expensive side, but well worth it!
@scotthaddad563
@scotthaddad563 11 ай бұрын
I hope that you are doing well. You have really lost weight.
@johnb6763
@johnb6763 11 ай бұрын
What does this part do?
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