Having had both, I sold the 20. It's not that it's slow to focus, the real trouble is it's unpredictable. It can start to hunt for no reason while your image is gone. The 25 is not only a bit faster, but it nails the shot every single time. And the 20 cost about thrice as much...
@johnupper52253 жыл бұрын
Fantastic review. I particularly liked the way you showed the differences in focus speed and in focus shifting (excellent idea to use a sheet of paper with the word "focus" printed in multiple rows).
@Luigiz286 жыл бұрын
Great video! I love my Panasonic 20mm lens! It's lives on my Em10 camera and it's so versatile. Plus it's sharp! I've shot everything from landscapes, cityscapes, flowers, and portraits. Anything that's stationary, this lens is perfect 👌
@FKfilmphotography6 жыл бұрын
If you look at my 20mm review and see the quality you can achieve from it. I love the 20mm as it's close to 35mm full frame amazing for environmental portraits and narrative head shots. No focus by wire either or focus shift. The focus is only slower that's it.
@b3naqua6 жыл бұрын
Nice review!! I loooove both of these lenses, especially the 20mm. It’s so small and easy to use, even though its focus is slow and loud.
@yunggripmsp22113 жыл бұрын
I thought this was the version 2 20mm
@maeveofthelongbows95523 жыл бұрын
@Benicio Victor Hope your girlfriend finds out your true character quickly and dumps you with no mercy.
@stevewhiteley92493 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t live with the slow and noisy focus on the 20mm even though I wanted to like it. The 25mm is much snappier and I prefer using it. It’s also useful with extension tubes as a macro option. It’s worth pointing out that although bigger than the 20mm it is still small and light. Thanks for the review.
@joseespadin2742 жыл бұрын
Where can I find those extension tubes for macro?
@stevewhiteley92492 жыл бұрын
@@joseespadin274 Amazon
@cristibaluta Жыл бұрын
I wish i read your comment last week when i bought one, the reviewers don't make it sound so bad like it really is, and none talks about the noise it makes.
@nathanmalaker28656 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this kind of video for a long time, thank you!
@lucascorreia99164 жыл бұрын
What a great review, man! I wish I had discovered your channel before: great work! (it’s truly refreshing to watch a straightforward review) PERFECT! Congrats!
@Camerahoarders4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! :)
@buildingsheriff6 жыл бұрын
Dude, your reviews are EXCELLENT. Your English is incredible - "take one for the team"!! Keep it up.
@TerenceKearns4 жыл бұрын
LOL. I fuckin LOVE the accent. I want to learn it...
@sylvainpaquette61326 жыл бұрын
I had both for a year and would almost never used the 25mm since the 20mm produced better pictures and it's small and light.
@TerenceKearns4 жыл бұрын
Seriously best review on these lenses. Keep up the good work.
@DerVagabundli4 жыл бұрын
I've never really had focus shift problems with the 25. But then again, I usually use it more or less wide open most of the time..
@christianschreier49903 жыл бұрын
Excellent review! Straight to the point, comprehensive and the examples are easy to follow. Had the 20mm coupled with a small GM5 trying to keep everything compact and was quite happy with it. It got stolen and now I can get both used for a decent price and was wondering witch was a better investment. I think I'll get the 20mm again first and the 25mm in the future. Thanks for the review.
@artistjoh3 жыл бұрын
Making a choice... I chose the 20 1.7 plus Sigma 30mm f1.4. I have owned the 20 1.7 since it was first introduced. Sharpness plus smallness makes it a no-brainer.
@chirsd6666 жыл бұрын
Nicely done comparison. Your camera gear reviews are among the most informative and witty on KZfaq. Keep them coming please!
@Leptospirosi4 жыл бұрын
Good review: the 20mm is sadly quite slow to focus, but otherwise is a tremendous lens with a fantastic all around focal lenght. The 25mm is cheap, but IMO Olympus makes overall a better lens, with slightly better build quality, no chromatic aberration (Olympus camera don't CA automatically) no focus shift and no focus breath in video. It costs a bit more through.
@loft4me4 жыл бұрын
I like pancake, but I seem to waffle between the two. ; -)
@datalaforge4 жыл бұрын
This is an under-celebrated youtube comment. Just perfect.
@loft4me4 жыл бұрын
@@datalaforge Lol
@dcxdanny3 жыл бұрын
LOL
@evocati65233 жыл бұрын
They're both good, I wouldn't say either one is a piece of crepe
@leemartin91563 жыл бұрын
@@evocati6523 😂
@TheophilusCarlos3 жыл бұрын
Very good video. Thank you. I have the 20mm and my brother has the 25mm. This review is very accurate. Great pacing and attention to detail.
@AntonisK6 жыл бұрын
I had a front focus problem with my first copy of 25 1.7 and changed it and the second copy is perfect so its a lens copy variation and not a model problem
@BestmobilesInUa5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this great review! I search long time review like this.
@SergiMedina5 жыл бұрын
Very thorough but not long, straight to the point and complete. Amazing, thanks!
@ellenbritto5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review! Love the sense of humor in the end :)
@ghangj3 жыл бұрын
Best review i have seen so far. Thanks for making my decision easy.
@nore81414 жыл бұрын
Great video and commentary as always. Just got my g85 with the kit lens. Should one of these lens be part of my gear?
@let0703 жыл бұрын
20mm for photo, 25mm for video
@ulfjonsson21226 жыл бұрын
A very nice review! I have used my 20mm for close to 9 years (mkI). Love the quality - sometimes (seldom) hate the focusing speed! Keep up the good work - Regards Ulf (do have Olympus and Fuji 25mm lenses).
@BennyLindroth3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! I have the 25mm but get strange results. I will check your other video on this. Fantastic review!
@Advertisingvideos6 жыл бұрын
What kind of lenses you will suggest , for shooting in low light (for exaple restaurants.) Focal Length ? Angle of View ? Max Aperture f/ ?? Min Aperture f/?? Stabilised I use body panasonic G6
@SteveHartmanVideosАй бұрын
thank you for this, exactly what I was looking for.
@paulplus38306 жыл бұрын
I love my 20mm. I have it always on my GX80. I know it's most likely the slowest focussing mft lens, but I'm not shooting sports with it. ;)
@noorur5 жыл бұрын
Is the image quality inferior ?
@TheophilusCarlos3 жыл бұрын
noorur image quality is better on the 20mm by a very small margin
@ericdelrio46144 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your great video. Concise and useful information organization
@rep3e43 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@matthewblake22586 жыл бұрын
Had both. Sold the 25mm. Colours are better on the 20mm
@ranirupeiris3 жыл бұрын
Me too
@MrArchieTechАй бұрын
What was the camera?
@matthewblake2258Ай бұрын
@@MrArchieTech Panasonic G6 & G7
@dorini59456 жыл бұрын
You an also get the zuiko 17mm 1.8, which is probably better than both.
@IttePerkele6 жыл бұрын
Just bought the 25mm and 42.5mm 1.7 as a second-hand for 370€ :) Is it possible to save a profile (aply it to one of the FN-buttons) into G9 for the 25mm focus shift adjustment?
@smalltalk.productions99776 жыл бұрын
a thoughtful analysis, as always. thank you for the effort and the sharing. thumbs up. i am now a subscriber.
@AdventureTravelandScuba4 жыл бұрын
excellent comparison video im happy with my 25mm lot of work went in to this review do you have any video on settings with g85 for video and photo i have seen a lot of video but yours is very clear great work
@kevinlui86012 жыл бұрын
Regarding minimum focusing distance.. was there a mistake? The info online indicate 20mm is 0.2m vs 25mm’s 0.25m. So, isn’t the 20mm supposed to be closer?!
@ericpersoff41064 жыл бұрын
Very useful! Thank you for posting! So if I will use the lens mainly for portraits, you would recommend the 25mm, correct?
@Camerahoarders4 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@nicolaslachance50576 жыл бұрын
lolll playing darts on your face in Panasonic's office
@AmadoWildlifeVideos5 жыл бұрын
Very thorough comparison, beautifully presented, thank you.
@ChocoLater16 жыл бұрын
Autofocus on 25 mm lens is better handled if tracking focus is applied so it doesn't focus back and forth every time you or subject move
@seanmangan27693 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a very thorough review!
@OutRAjious Жыл бұрын
25 seems to have a touch more contrast which is the most important quality to me .. but a pancake is a pancake ie so portable
@MichaelWTurner6 жыл бұрын
Very thorough. Thank you. I have the 25mm. It's a nice lens!
@AlexEF216 жыл бұрын
great Video! Thank you so much! Be a owner of the 20mm and love it on my GX80
@ybyap5 жыл бұрын
Very detail comparison!!! Good job!!!!Thank you.
@jpcreativeimagery5 жыл бұрын
great comparison video, nice and thorough!
@dwiawijanarko53004 жыл бұрын
Hallo, thankyou so much for this review! It is simple but covering what i need to know :) I want to ask something, between the 25mm and 12-32mm kit (on the same aperture), how about the image quality and focusing speed? Thankyou in advance Sorry for my bad english
@TheRoadrunner112 жыл бұрын
Focusing speed is far better on the kit lens. Image quality in good light is comparable between the the two (except for bokeh, which doesn't exist on the 12-32mm). At night or indoors the 20mm f1.7 is an amazing lens. You just need to deal with the slow and unreliable autofocus.
@nutella_drifter6 жыл бұрын
I am planning to buy a normal prime lens so this video is heaven sent:) I wish they made a pancake size 25mm just for sake of compactness.
@EdStarkey5 жыл бұрын
Excellent review! I have both lenses, and I thought the 20mm was sharper, but I may be running into the focus shift issue!
@MasterOfBasses6 жыл бұрын
The 20mm caught my eye since it will make my GH2 almost as portable as a LX100
@rolfen5 жыл бұрын
The 20mm IS speed sensitive on my Olympus body and it is annoying. You can notice it when you turn it slowly. The difference is that it does not jump very fast when you turn it quickly.
@pounceonyou19582 жыл бұрын
Excellent review! thanks.
@sneen37076 жыл бұрын
Hi, can you compare the 12mm 1.4 (Summilux), 17mm and/or the 25mm on MFT cam with a 24mm f1.4, 35mm f1.4 and a 50mm f1.4 on a fullframe cam, please? Many greatings from germany.
@photokingofcool19474 жыл бұрын
Excellent test. Do you recommend using 20mm on Olympus camera body? I have GX7, and friend uses OMD5 Mk111.
@GlennAki6 жыл бұрын
I think the 20mm f1.7ii is not made of all plastic, I dropped mine once and noticed that it's made some sort of metal. And I used to have the silver one, so I definitely think it's metal combined with the plastic focus ring.
@Camerahoarders6 жыл бұрын
Might be.. I am still not entirely sure. Metal is usually significantly colder to the touch than plastic and pancake doesn't feel particularly cold.
@richardnolet77376 жыл бұрын
Hi guys. If I'm not wrong, there is two versions of the pana 20 mm pancake. Version i is plastic. Version ii is metal.
@808islandlife_HI6 жыл бұрын
Another very thorough review. Thanks .
@RotterStudios4 жыл бұрын
I have a GH5 and the 25mm F1.7. i'm looking for a little more width. is it worth getting the 20mm for the little more width i need for shots?
@FullTekAuto3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. It's wide enough to vlog with or get a lot in frame in close spaces. I've had the Panasonic 25mm and sold it because it was just too much range for me. I could barely get myself in frame in my room. I got the Panasonic 14mm 2.5 and that was okay but too wide and I missed the compressed cinematic/portait shots from my 25mm. To If you can only have 1 prime lens. This would be it. Especially at 1.7 it is ridiculous.
@desy6663 жыл бұрын
Really really nice review. Thanks alot 🙂👍🏻
@RomiesStudio6 жыл бұрын
Hi, very good video very detailed and lined out. Thank you
@georgiosvasilopoulos46505 жыл бұрын
Exemplary video comparison! Amazing work!
@cristibaluta Жыл бұрын
I wish i did my research before buying the 20mm, the focus is very slow and noisy, slower than kit lenses. I bought it for street where you need speed but can't think of any subject that will not benefit extra speed
@seitanicgoat3194 Жыл бұрын
Hello, I have the 42.5 1.7 and I am looking for a wider lens for video from panasonic. Size kinda matters also as I want to carry it everyday with me. Any suggestion? Thank you
@JerikoFoxTrail5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this review! Very helpful for deciding which one to choose.
@DaXin36 жыл бұрын
Really nice review, and reaaallly accurate... =) i own the 20mm and.. Yay. Its wonderfull ans you describe. Really good results and sharpness, with de boundaries os Panasonic systms. I'm usint it on a GM1 and i guess it will work good on a bigger camera like ghe g9 in a few years
@martincarran42943 жыл бұрын
Thank you, great review. Cheers
@NeilNTR6 жыл бұрын
Which will be better for video or maybe another inexpensive lens? Camera: GX85, Subject: Indoor food videos.
@Camerahoarders6 жыл бұрын
25mm focuses better in video mode - no sudden jumps and is quieter.
@DaXin36 жыл бұрын
Look for stabilized lenses if you are going to move arround handmade and search that speciffic lenses for video works. For example i recorded a lot of zoom in sceens in my 14-140 with very good results by hand holding it! Anyway, for static videos or close ones, this kind of lenses look great too. At the end it depends on the point of view you are going to prefeere
@WolfStreetFilms3 жыл бұрын
love the flare
@Christophe-Cochez2 жыл бұрын
Good I Hope WE have a compare, 20 mm and 12/30 f 2,8 .
@sanposurustu64585 жыл бұрын
Great video, very helpful, thanks.
@puledressdesigns6 жыл бұрын
Waiting for this video! Thank you!
@rjkral5 жыл бұрын
Great comparison well done!
@LOTUSARTSTUDIO-gx8yf4 жыл бұрын
Wonderful review 😊, Thank you
@user-vi3oq5yy8x5 жыл бұрын
thank you for your clear and nice video
@joakimtollerud21725 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Thanks!
@MinimalWave19823 жыл бұрын
i idint get that problem with the focus shift can someone explain?
@Quantumphotographic6 жыл бұрын
Good review, thank you... Did you notice any loss of definition on the 20mm when stopping down to f8 - f22? I've only had mine for a few weeks and was really disappointed in the image quality when trying to get a large depth of field on some landscape images. I did some tests afterwards and found that the optimum aperture for me was f5.6 - it was a very noticeable difference...
@Camerahoarders6 жыл бұрын
That is due to diffraction (too small of an aperture) and happens on all lenses ever made. I rarely use more than f/11 on micro 43 cameras. F/16 can be really soft while f/22 becomes a pudding.
@DesignSPN7 ай бұрын
Is there any distortion effect on the 25mm lens?
@CaptainRon856 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review!
@ninofanuko78126 жыл бұрын
Pozdrav super review :)
@scottfineshriber5051 Жыл бұрын
I haven’t used the 25/1.7, but I know I love the look of my 20/1.7. Close focusing wide open gives really beautiful blur in the background. Maybe the vignetting is part of its magic.
@OpenFilmmaker5 жыл бұрын
Nice review!
@androidgameplays4every132 жыл бұрын
Which one would you recommend?
@Pertamax7-HD5 жыл бұрын
Ok sir
@GiacomoArdesi6 жыл бұрын
Great review as usual Ivan. You talk about a possible 25mm Mark II but don't you think shift focus issues could be fixed via lens/camera firmware updates?
@Camerahoarders6 жыл бұрын
It probably could be solved that way, but Panasonic most likely won't bother updating older cameras or this lens. Many users might not even know there is an update. It is probably easier for them to make Mark II with better optical design.
@michelmichel-go5yg5 жыл бұрын
merci pour la video
@FabrizioBalliano4 жыл бұрын
this is just a great, great video!
@MrArchieTechАй бұрын
Ivan, did you try to put lens hood from 25mm to 20mm?
@CamerahoardersАй бұрын
No, I don't think so...
@mo_-wd3rc5 жыл бұрын
Hi, are these lenses capable of shooting the northern lights? Which one is better for it?
@Camerahoarders5 жыл бұрын
Auroras usually look best shot with ultra wides like Laowa 7.5mm. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ebClfNKXudjSf30.html
@theurbanartist7754 жыл бұрын
Hey guys which one of these are the best? I just got my g7 a few day’s ago & im ready to buy my first lens. Goodbye t3i & hello g7😁🎥
@baronvonmaximillionsnell27574 жыл бұрын
I have the gx7....25 mm is very good.
@Advertisingvideos6 жыл бұрын
What kind of lenses should i use for video shooting in low light, for example video in restaurant. Automatic lenses or with manual exposure/focus (prime lens) What mm focal lenght should be ? I use panasonic G6 body
@rascalhusky81294 жыл бұрын
Good video , first class . Great accent.
@baronvonmaximillionsnell27574 жыл бұрын
I have the 25mm.. Its very good & sharp.
@njvr75406 жыл бұрын
Can someone tell me what is a good lens for product photos on a Panasonic G7?
@godofhope5 жыл бұрын
On a Olympus body purple fringing is excessive on the 20mm!
@chevypowertogo-90703 жыл бұрын
in Other Words the Panasonic 15mm F/1.7 Defaults Imagine Quality as a Pile of Crap? Yes if its hit & miss where Your Really having to work at it to get a Keep Worthy SHOT then i Agree with You 100% Well Then 15mm F1.7 I'v Desided Not To BUY & Taking off my List, (( Thanks for the Heads UP Warning, Otherwise Yes About This Little 20mm F/1.7 You Are Exactly Correct IT IS INDEED a Great Little Lens For The Price & KEEPS everything Small & Compact :-) Thank You For Sharing In Your GREAT VIDEO My Friend C,P,