Camille Saint Saëns - 6 Études, Op. 111 (1892)

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Charles-Camille Saint-Saëns (9 October 1835 - 16 December 1921) was a French composer, organist, conductor and pianist of the Romantic era. Saint-Saëns was a musical prodigy, making his concert debut at the age of ten. After studying at the Paris Conservatoire he followed a conventional career as a church organist, first at Saint-Merri, Paris and, from 1858, La Madeleine, the official church of the French Empire. After leaving the post twenty years later, he was a successful freelance pianist and composer, in demand in France, mainland Europe, Britain, and the Americas.
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6 Études, Op. 111 (1892)
1. Tierces majeures et mineures (0:00)
2. Traits chromatiques (1:55)
3. Prélude et Fugue (4:09)
4. Les Cloches de Las Palmas (9:15)
5. Tierces majeures chromatiques (12:59)
6. Toccata d'après le cinquième concerto (14:56)
François-René Duchâble , piano
Dedication:
1. Arthur de Greef (1862-1940)
2. Louis Livon (d. 1913)
3. Charles Malherbe (1853-1911)
4. Clotilde Kleeberg (1866-1909)
5. Edouard Risler (1873-1929)
6. Stéphane-Raoul Pugno (1852-1914)

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@danielgloverpiano7693 3 жыл бұрын

What I find particularly nasty in the first one is that, even though this is clearly modeled after Chopin’s Etude in Thirds, Saint-Saëns prevents us from using our thumbs in the thirds by engaging the thumb in a lower voice. Chopin at least allows this, and it creates an easier weight management/distribution for our fingers, Saint-Saëns knew exactly what he was doing, and thus this is actually perhaps technically slightly more difficult than Chopin’s. It mercifully doesn’t last too long, but still demands endurance. To top it off the left hand has to also do the thirds in the middle section, and Chopin avoided that. It’s as if Saint-Saëns is respectfully pointing out what Chopin forgot to do! This recording is stunning!

@bartjebartmans 3 жыл бұрын

Chopin's hands had a physique which allowed his thumbs to do things most can't do. That mobility is showcased in his studies especially. I think Saint Saens was more into writing a study for the individual use of the fingers, which gives it less of a fluid feel then Chopin. Just thinking out loud, not really thought this through. lol.

@danielgloverpiano7693 3 жыл бұрын

@@bartjebartmans I think it is interesting that these etudes were written for students at the Paris Conservatory as exam pieces. Saint-Saëns included Preludes and Fugues in all of his three sets of etudes, thus recognizing that contrapuntal playing was a technical challenge that every pianist must master. The balancing of different voices is something he addressed beautifully. Also, the second Etude of Opus 52 relates to finger independence and the ability to bring out each finger separately in a melody. He was a monster pianist. I am attempting to learn all 18 etudes this year to honor the 100th anniversary of Saint-Saëns' death.

@zswu31416 2 жыл бұрын

"s l i g h t l y harder" Do you have any idea how hard 24-35 thirds are than 13-25 or 14-25 or even 13-24 thirds?

@danielgloverpiano7693 2 жыл бұрын

@@zswu31416 indeed I do understand the difficulties, as I recorded this whole set myself at home, after making that comment. I went on to complete all 18 of his Etudes. They are on my channel: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mtWfqdpiq6rFeIk.html

@danielgloverpiano7693 2 жыл бұрын

@@zswu31416 here is my playlist of the complete Saint-Saëns Etudes video recorded at home in my humble piano studio in 2021: kzfaq.info/sun/PLiWOSyW1nKgbzv44eIr4dxnSO-DpjkJQb

@chutdigadut 6 жыл бұрын

Pianist is a freaking beast

@franco21295 7 жыл бұрын

Etude op 111 no 1: 0:05 Etude op 111 no 2: 1:55 Etude op 111 no 3: 4:09 Etude op 111 no 4: 9:15 Etude op 111 no 5: 12:59 Etude op 111 no 6: 14:56

@cormaclevinthal3496 6 жыл бұрын

Franco Ochi I

@SugarJesus 5 жыл бұрын

thank you!

@tristangutierrezmolina 4 жыл бұрын

Etude n. 3: Prelude and Fugue. 4:09 Prelude 5:38 Fugue

@terryss95 4 жыл бұрын

@@tristangutierrezmolina Why did the pianist end the fugue in the minor key though...

@10mimu 5 жыл бұрын

Cloches des Las Palmas (The fourth) is sooo expressive... loneliness... nostalgia and yearning... a sense of grandeur... nuff to tear me up :(

@thebatman6991 2 жыл бұрын

Excellente cette toccata..Merci pour l interprétation

@marksmith3947 2 жыл бұрын

Wow. So charming and elegant.

@szymanowski7 2 жыл бұрын

I swear to god it's my first time hearing this etude of Camile and i amazed and open my mouth like many times wondering how is it possible for human to create such complicated and beautiful song??????

@Randyed 7 жыл бұрын

No.1 and No.6.. They are truly astounding compositions, in my opinion. Melodically and technically. One day..

@lylecohen1638 5 жыл бұрын

I enjoy them both greatly as well, but melodically speaking, No. 1 is really nothing to write home about.

@Pogouldangeliwitz 3 жыл бұрын

N. 1 is nothing remarkable at all. Anyone can compose such an etude any day.

@iluvthewolfpack 3 жыл бұрын

Yes! I feel like no one ever talks about #6; meanwhile, it's one of my absolute favorites across the board! I was finally able to start working on it and it has truly exceeded my expectations. The feeling that runs through you on those arpeggiated motifs is indescribable. Wish more people were getting on board the 6 train cause it's truly a hidden gem. You can do it, girl!

@huangfrancis8717 4 жыл бұрын

Saint-Saëns: You should be able to play 5th Concerto before you learn the 6th Etude.

@DianAmini 3 жыл бұрын

I saw this comment a year ago and didn’t know it’s significance until about a week ago - I heard the concerto

@emrahkorkmaz87 Жыл бұрын

Prachtig, bedankt.

@Pogouldangeliwitz 3 жыл бұрын

Very idiomatic interpretation. Saint-Saëns is said to have had fingers of steel, cold as ice, but the most neat, balanced scales one could dream of. One can hear the same French clarté and finger work here. On top of that it's quite fiery and there's a nice variety of colours. Well done, Duchâble!

@nicholasfox966 5 жыл бұрын

Saint-Saëns was such a wonderful composer. So surprising, charming, delightful, unpredictable, masterful. Capable of lyrical depth, grandeur, and one of the few composers who were able to express genuine musical humor.

@chezbe 3 жыл бұрын

100 times greater then overrated Chopin!!!

@brunopianodude9938 3 жыл бұрын

@@chezbe Both are great, I don't know why people say Chopin is overrated, I would more say overplayed.

@chezbe 3 жыл бұрын

@@brunopianodude9938 you're right his music very static or boring, for example, almost all of his works are sad and similar to each other, but take the same Rachmaninov - all the plays are completely different, and the question is - whom will you love, monotonous melancholy or diversity?

@brunopianodude9938 3 жыл бұрын

@@chezbe I really like Chopin's style, cause his melodies sounds very familiar to me. But Saint Säen is just wow, he really have a lot of colour in his compositions and cool ideas. I think I like him a bit more than Chopin.

@chezbe 3 жыл бұрын

@@brunopianodude9938 Alkan was Chopin's best friends, and he wrote fantastic music

@kellykim0226 4 жыл бұрын

I like the 6th one. It's kinda jazzy in some points

@allarmunumralla 7 жыл бұрын

This is a wonderful performance of repertoire new to me. As I can attest to my youth, people tend to dismiss this composer; folly of youth. This must be a real joy to pianists, and as pure music I'm inclined to take it very seriously.

@arcturus4067 2 жыл бұрын

Wow. Thanks for uploading these etudes. Going to explore more of Saint-Saens stuff... These are very technically demanding etudes. I like no. 6 the most.

@wotan9630 8 жыл бұрын

Again, this is the first time I have heard these etudes by SS, and once again I am thrilled and delighted. Looking at the scores they seemed to be unplayable but obviously modern techniques have overcome the difficulties (I know they were composed in the 19th century), were they really playable then (daft question!). I was pleased to recognise the 5th piano concerto. Even though my playing days have long gone I love to follow the scores (I felt exhausted after reading the op.111!!).

@bartjebartmans 8 жыл бұрын

+Peter Bollard Saint Saens himself was a formidable pianist. These etudes show his own technical abilities. Pianists like Tausig, Godowsky, Hofmann etc. etc., wouldn't have had any trouble with them.

@veronicaconnolly4542 5 жыл бұрын

piano was easier then, lighter action

@thebatman6991 8 ай бұрын

Bravo

@devinbelver7124 3 жыл бұрын

Etude 1: those 3rds give me ptsd.. Etude 2: We thought the rapid 32nd notes were too easy so we decided to have you play them against triplets.. Etude 3: Did Rachmaninoff write this one?.. Etude 4: How long did you say your pinkie was?.. 10:09 Etude 5: Those 3rds give me arthritis.. Etude 6: How to use your sheet music to make beautiful art! 16:55

@edgarantonioleon6589 5 жыл бұрын

bellos trémolos

@Michelle6998832 Жыл бұрын

I've been working on the prelude & fugue for just over 5 weeks now. I have a weakness for baroque forms by Romanticism composers, especially the French & German. I also found this amazing Chinese composer that has written the most beautiful Chinese themed piano suite in baroque form. I forgot his name by memory, but his suite is very pleasing & technically challenging with amazing & unique special sound effects that I'm quite eager to explore next.

@abb5643 Жыл бұрын

I'm very curious about this baroque-form chinese suite! If you can recall it, I'd certainly love to hear it.

@Michelle6998832 Жыл бұрын

I don't understand what's going on, I replied to your question 5 times and it keeps getting automatically deleted. I never experienced this before. Could you please let me know if you saw my previous replies answering your question?

@abb5643 Жыл бұрын

@@Michelle6998832 Aw, I haven't seen them, sorry :( maybe you can make a new separate comment and I can just sort by most recent to see it??

@Michelle6998832 Жыл бұрын

@ABB I posted the info on the comments section. lmk if you can see it. It's absolutely insane that i can't post it in this thread. This never happened before. I literally copied and pasted the answer like 8 times and it won't show here, yet these texts will. This is Crazy.

@abb5643 Жыл бұрын

@@Michelle6998832 I saw it and replied, but then it all got deleted somehow (what on earth??? maybe youtube thought it was a spam comment from the formatting??) but! I got to read it and found the music! Thank you for your efforts 😊

@athanassioszotos1713 5 жыл бұрын

no 4.OMG.i felt my hair rising.

@cstoreyqc 8 жыл бұрын

Yes : I first heard the G sharp minor Etude about 15 years ago in a recording ( I believe the first ever ) by the incomparable Piers Lane . I wanted to play this , the one in op.52 in thirds for the independence of the fingers, and the one using themes fro the 5th Concerto no 111.6 which is truly symphonic. Sadly, I quickly found they are all too difficult for me

@gojewla Жыл бұрын

That’s a pretty good interpretation. Lots of color!

@ciararespect4296 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for these I just screenshot on my iPad put on piano and played them similar to this but less pedal

@boodabill 8 жыл бұрын

same here, first time. Some of these are harder than the Chopin etudes, which i can play slowly. These I'm staying away from!

@robert-skibelo Жыл бұрын

Remarkable feat of pianism. I felt there were places in no. 4 where the performer was not delivering the p or pp the composer asked for, but perhaps it is impossible.

@user-ed5fs2sb2z 3 жыл бұрын

18:02 = Hanon? 😃

@elliotgil 3 жыл бұрын

Jajajajajaja

@cbmajor6017 3 жыл бұрын

First etude sounds like Op. 25 No. 6

@nicosuarez6962 3 жыл бұрын

It's in the same tonality (G-Sharp Minor)

@Pogouldangeliwitz 3 жыл бұрын

It doesn't at all. Just an etude for trills in thirds in g sharp minor. Almost no (chromatic or diatonic) scales.

@CheolhyeonPark999 3 жыл бұрын

In my opinion, 5th etude looks more similar to Chopin's etude Op.25 No.6

3 жыл бұрын

Every pianist’s nightmare.

@paquinho12 8 жыл бұрын

Interesting final!, maybe the concerto 5 was taken from that last etude?

@bartjebartmans 8 жыл бұрын

+Francisco It was the other way round. He adapted the themes of the final movement in 1899 for the Toccata that closes this Opus.

@MrInterestingthings 4 жыл бұрын

Notice allors both sets op.52 and cette collection avait fugues et chiens y chats particulier . Camille was always bout dee fun !In both sets Camille told me il avait a crea these fugues car une pianiste vrai must voice -oh yiu tu doit must voice toujours et tous les temps ou you will fall in dee dirty muck ! Dohnanyi didn't know us then but Rudolf Ganz always bought coffee in dee mornings !

@Pogouldangeliwitz 3 жыл бұрын

Vous need to stop la cocaïne tout de suite, please!

@MrInterestingthings 4 жыл бұрын

Duchable always has charme et doits !

@Pogouldangeliwitz 3 жыл бұрын

*doigts

@song2292 3 жыл бұрын

The no.1 is similar to Chopin etude op.25 no.6

@WinrichNaujoks 11 ай бұрын

I'm getting tendonitis just looking at it!

@hjs60789 3 жыл бұрын

etude no.6 sounds like his piano concerto no.5 3rd :)

@itsmz827 3 жыл бұрын

Oh god it is-

@MCHenry2024 2 жыл бұрын

The first one sounds like Etude op 25 no 6

@jackcurley1591 6 жыл бұрын

I almost started laughing when I heard the 5th etude. Looks so painful lol

@tchaffman 3 жыл бұрын

Lol it's just chromatic scales in thirds 🤷‍♂️

@BetonBrutContemporary 3 жыл бұрын

@@tchaffman YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW HARD IT IS

@BetonBrutContemporary 3 жыл бұрын

@@tchaffman on my second thought after visiting your channel, nevermind. you are enough good for this. sorry!

@tchaffman 3 жыл бұрын

@@BetonBrutContemporary Haha no worries, completely empathize because I would've felt similar to you a few years ago -- Scales in thirds may sound a bit pyrotechnic, but aren't very difficult when you're actually playing them with solid fingerings and technique. That's all I'd meant. Cheers!

@jackcurley1591 3 жыл бұрын

@A Human Yeah 1st is the hardest etude of the set now that I've listened to them more.

@dawlims1334 3 жыл бұрын

the first etude sounds like chopin's etude op 25 no 6

@maniak1768 3 жыл бұрын

Except this one gives you a sore left hand, too.

@ContraereaSerba 4 жыл бұрын

Question: would you use the pedal in the prelude and fugue?

@jumanji1465 2 жыл бұрын

아 뒤샤블형... 형은 진짜 ㅠㅠㅠㅠ

@foxfire7779 3 жыл бұрын

No.2 sounds a bit like flight of the bumblebee

@cesararandajr3925 Ай бұрын

The second etude seems alike to one of the Moszkowski’s Etudes

@user-oz3ve6it4q 3 жыл бұрын

14:58

@chodanyeong 3 жыл бұрын

냥대가 또....

@Sehr_Langsam 3 жыл бұрын

No.6 14:57

@ytyt3922 5 жыл бұрын

Definitely harder than most of Chopin’s études. Chopin’s pieces tend to SOUND extremely difficult, but usually they don’t feel particularly unnatural in terms of hand positions. Composers like Saint-Saens and Ravel are far more frustrating to learn, which is why not many do.

@soapjerk1737 5 жыл бұрын

I don't agree... Chopin's études aren't that easy and those is this clip are much easier believe me.

@ytyt3922 5 жыл бұрын

Soap Jerk I didn’t say they are easy. Just easier (generally) than the Saint-Saens études.

@PreissOpPerd 4 жыл бұрын

Yt Yt, tell that to Op. 25 No. 11 (Chopin). It’s much more technical demanding than these études. They’re obviously not bad. They can replace some Chopin’s of course.

@Pogouldangeliwitz 3 жыл бұрын

@@PreissOpPerd They can replace them only in terms of gymnastics.

@Xin15401 Жыл бұрын

1,2,6

@niccolopaganini4268 5 жыл бұрын

Am I the only one finding the 6th etude to sound like combination of Liszt and Rach? Edit. Now when i think about it? The 5th etude also sounds like Liszt and Rach

@colinmurphy2214 5 жыл бұрын

Niccolo Paganini absolutely

@burz96 5 жыл бұрын

Maybe you're already aware of this but it also uses the same theme from the final movement of his 5th piano concerto.

@xflo789 4 жыл бұрын

And the first etude sounds like chopin 25/6

@ripinpepperonies9754 4 жыл бұрын

14:27 edited? Lol

@terryss95 4 жыл бұрын

rip in pepperonies Yep.

@marcraider 4 жыл бұрын

is posible, or maybe just a recording failure or uploading error.

@terryss95 4 жыл бұрын

marcraider Not at all, if that was a recording failure it would've been a much bigger fault to the pianist than asking to edit 2 recordings on top of another. It' s not pretty but most young pianists and masters do this, which explains the tendency to exaggerate pedalling, rubati: to create some "checkpoints". This happens when they get the habit to make too many recordings per year, rather than few of superb quality: they don't have time. Personally I'd just do as many attempts as necessary to finally get the best result in a single take. The greatest pianists of all time anyways (like Shura Cherkassky), because of their outsdanding familiarity with each single piece of their repertoire, could've simply recorded live concerts and call it a day. In the end, all that a musician has to do is play their music. Period.

@TempodiPiano 3 жыл бұрын

n°4 Déodat de Séverac ? n°5 Alkan ?... n°6 Joplin ?

@Sylvanoskovich 7 ай бұрын

Team Chopin !

@seonyonghwang 5 жыл бұрын

omg.. no.1 etude this is even not 1,3~ 2,4. this is 2,4~3,5

@brunopianodude9938 3 жыл бұрын

Would you try to do some of these?

@none5020 Жыл бұрын

Seon I still hope to see you perform these!

@milgaru 3 жыл бұрын

no. 1 sounds like chopin's etude xD

@WildJag4free Жыл бұрын

Il y a que Duchable pour enregistré un truc pareil

@Macgki 8 жыл бұрын

And I thought 25/6 was hard ...

@ContraereaSerba 4 жыл бұрын

It's harder than this

@sneddypie 4 жыл бұрын

Are you talking about Chopin?

@francoisrodewald9868 4 жыл бұрын

Angelo Have you worked on both?

@charles-valentinalkan5681 4 жыл бұрын

@@ContraereaSerba no. It's not. This is much more brutal.

@jackcurley1591 4 жыл бұрын

Charles- Valentin Alkan yea the 1st5th Etudes are harder than the Chopin thirds etude

@i9avici7a5 3 жыл бұрын

I wonder if he wrote #1 in homage to Chopin

@i9avici7a5 3 жыл бұрын

Wow #5..... was Chopin dead at the time. I’m blown away rn

@i9avici7a5 3 жыл бұрын

Yes Chopin was dead. Jeez... alkan and saint saens are def the most extreme romantics.

@RedZed1974 6 жыл бұрын

Way more technical and Etude-y than Chopin's. The last one sounds like it has Ragtime rhythms although the actual melody isn't really raggy.

@popola7284 Жыл бұрын

First etude is impossible…

@user-bn2nw2um2t 3 жыл бұрын

Нет, я не понимаю, как это можно играть.

@xuew 3 жыл бұрын

hey saint saens you copied chopin’s 25/6

@jonathanhaskell3773 Жыл бұрын

bof

@pianosenzanima1 7 жыл бұрын

Chopin etudes are a bit overrated...why people dont play these as well i dont get it

@djmotise 7 жыл бұрын

pianosenzanima Overrated? Unbelievable stupid comment.

@user-kp9of7re9q 4 жыл бұрын

Cuz Melodic and pianistic

@terryss95 4 жыл бұрын

"I like this, this is the best. This is so best that anything else is shit". Typical americans and their half-assed strong opinions on EVERYTHING.

@sohankalirai8769 3 жыл бұрын

oof ur getting attacked here. if its any consolation, i dont rly like the chopin etudes either

@erika6651 3 жыл бұрын

@@terryss95 Americans are far from being the only human beings with blunt or "half-assed" strong opinions lol

@jeanlobrot 4 жыл бұрын

God no. 1 is such a blatant rip off

@bartjebartmans 4 жыл бұрын

Can you be precise? Rip off of what?

@jeanlobrot 4 жыл бұрын

Chopin etude g sharp minor

@baergenz9633 3 жыл бұрын

Rip off is nonsense. It’s just continuous quavers thirds. Chopin didn’t invented thirds scales or quavers thirds.