opponent: loses life to force of will. Seth: you fell right into my trap!!!

189$ vs 4,000$+ and the winner is.... 0.3$ pile of basics that didn't show up on time

For some reason a quote from the last budget legacy burn always stuck with me: "I'm so torn between how much I hate burn and how much I love winning..." We love ya Seth, keep it up

Match 4, just cast the rift bolt and the regular bolt. You might as well cast them while you can before Teferi or anything else show up. You're playing off the top of your deck anyway, so keeping it back doesn't really do you much.

Just wanted to say great play to not scoop to sneak attack emrakul since Burn has some of the best odds in that scenario compared to most decks when the opp is low

Cracks me up how this is cheaper than Modern Burn.

I love how many decks Seth runs basics from invasion in, they are my favorite basics in all of magic.

Given the second game, I think it's worth mentioning there is one thing modern Burn does well. 20-21 lands instead of 18, with fetches. Increased ability to hit land drops, with mana base thinning, means that I don't get fucked by the mana base as often in Modern burn.

"burn is fun in it's own weird way" this needs to be a quote for the stream bot

"Goblin Guide the best red one drop of all time." - Ragavan has entered the chat

I love how Seth has to try and defend himself from the comments every time he plays Budget Magic in Legacy, and has to explain, that "Yes, a $500 IS budget in Legacy" haha

Part of the reason I feel price of progress isn't as effective as you'd think in a vacuum is that most legacy players are savvy enough to fetch basics if they can once they see you're on burn.

I def think suspending the rift bolt game 3 vs uw control was punt adjacent. I don't think there was any downside to just casting it for 3 that turn, you still woulda had up bolt and surely they had more tf3s than daze or flusterstorms in terms of what punishes each line. Unless I missed something, the reasoning for suspending wasn't talked thru that I noticed. I think rift bolt face for 3, hold up bolt then try and bolt face in response to tf3 was the hindsight play. But you had already seen flusterstorm, and idk if it runs daze, and that line loses to those 2. If they had fon there are arguably upsides to either line depending on the rest of the hand. I think the other line is a few % points better but it still loses to cards your line didn't, so more of a going for it on 4th and it getting intercepted 40 yards downfield than a punt. In hindsight a punt, but at time of decision a risk.

I play ensnaring bridge in my burn sideboard for the omnitell match ups. Glad to see this deck getting some love! GG Seth!

I'm not gonna say its Super powerful, but if you wanna jump back into budget legacy in the future, I'd check out 8-cast affinity. not the odd control variant at the top of the format but more like modern style affinity that also has access to mono color artifact lands. Seems like it can have some hyper explosive hands. Would probably be fun.

Burn in Legacy is fun to play, since everyone is dedicated to meta each other. Some dubious plays and more dedicated side vs OmniTell and you are gas

After playing burn for close to 2 to 3 years, I can tell for certain that no card has caused me more frustration than price of progress. It's in the best case scenario a decent spell against a deck that requires non basic lands. But for every deck that is capable of operating on basics, as soon as you drop your first spell (such as swift spear, guide, lava spike or chain lightning) they'll know or at least assume you are a burn deck and will play around it, which means you have a deck that is dependant on superspeed with four dead spells in your deck/hand. This, alongside with keeping one landers, using card draw instead of burn spells (draw for red is subpar, to say the least) is what really kills burn. Also that narset game, the opponent went to 6 life, Seth should have gone for hardcast on rift bolt, knowing that teferi is a reality, and following with bolt, it would have won him the game.

That game 4 was so difficult to watch, the double flood after being droughted in previous games was excruciating, especially given Burns low land count. Thanks for another good episode Seth!

You know it's Legacy when the games are so spicy you have to change shirts for the last round.

Glad to see more legacy. Keep em' coming!

Please do more legacy! It's one of my favorite formats to watch!

Since you specifically asked how you may have won match 4 g3, I think there were a lot of small things but this one really stood out: At 43:16 when you suspended Rift Bolt (not a risk worth taking if you just have the mana against a T3feri deck, but that's another discussion) your opponent was at 3 life and figured they'd need to gain some life and Swords to Plowshared targeting their 1/1 Shark end of turn. I think you should definitely have tried to Lightning Bolt them in response at that point (at 43:26 to be exact). You just skipped through them Swords to Plowsharing their shark and going up to 4 while you had the Bolt in your hand and mana open. I could be missing something, but I think that was a very clear window to try and win. A small and less likely to win moment was something I would've done differently in game 2. In your last turn around 36:13 you don't cast your Exquisite Firecraft because you correctly identify that you don't have Spell Mastery. I don't think you're ever getting time to try and topdeck two more burn spells before casting it - so I would've just fired it off at them and see if they had anything or just bricked in 7 cards. Weak line either way, but I don't think your odds improve by keeping it.

The art for this vod is amazing

That thumbnail though... thanks for the legacy content!

lacagy is really such a fun interactive format even though it has so much power in it

30:32 Gotta appreciate the fact that Zev piloting ultra-budget Burn managed to win the race against a Show and Tell / Omniscience deck.

great video as always seth but i was just wondering how much does your deck cost vs other legacy deck? thanks

I LOVE YOUR THUMBNAIL. Awesome memes

You are a genius of budget magic man ^^

imagine taking out a mortgage to buy a deck just to get beaten by a weirdly colored olive playing burn spells

Always fun to see Seth revisit an old deck

Seth with ANOTHER banger band shirt. Stop being so good at music Seth.

Thumbnail spot on

Game 2 Against Oops, wouldn't it be safer to play Roiling Vortex because most of their spells are free?

I mean Goblin Guide got reprintings, it also slid down to #3 on best red 1 drops ever printed tho.

Watching again because legacy content is so scarce and this video is awesome

Awesome video!

Seth, it feels like youre luring me into Legacy with this deck

I remember my buddies wanted to hit a legacy gp, I had never played the format before but I decided why not I’ve played lots of pauper and modern burn so I knew the deck just had to learn the format, spent that month grinding on mtgo ended up getting just out of the money on day 2 I think I was 68 it was hype af I also beat show and tell for the first time at that tournament haha

Modern/legacy burn will always be competitive simply by being redundant.

Rolling vortex work against FoW and FoN so it was good in the first match ?

Isn't Vortex pretty good against Delver because of Daze, FoN and FoW each doin 5 Dmg if Vortex sticks to the field? Or why is Burn boardin it out against Delver?

"Come on land!!!" - Seth, every turn of every game. lol

My Legacy Burn deck is under $80 on TCGPlayer, it can still win turn 3, but it pretty much requires a Fireblast to do it. The priciest card I run is Vexing Devil, which I run over Goblin Guide (and I run DRC over Swifty). It's a lot of fun to play, since it can afford to burn out creatures without running out of cards, which is unusual in Legacy Burn, which tends to lose games because it's in topdeck mode and has bad topdecks (running lots of 1 drops is a nightmare after turn 3 in my experience). DRC helps smooth out draws, while Risk Factor is a decent effect for 3 mana in my experience, 4 damage isn't great turn 3, but it's very dangerous to give 3 cards to a Burn deck, unless your opponent's deck is simply fast enough to win early, and that is very hard for Burn to deal with, Red isn't great vs combo. Goblin Guide usually makes me want to scream, I do NOT like giving decks access to more cards, even if seeing cards is useful. In tight games, it's too small and card advantage for your opponent can suck mega-hard, it reminds me of how I don't like Aether Vial, even if it's considered an amazing card (running it as a 4-of in a creature deck will mean you'll run out of creatures more often, especially vs decks that can kill your weenies) and I don't know if I'd run it if I had it.

love the thumbnail lol

Yay legacy content!

why no flame rift? also i would have a grim lavamancer in the board

Always wondered if satyr fire dancer was a good little addition to this deck? It has a nice interaction with searing blood.

Match 5 really went: "Yeah that's a neat combo you got there, anyway . . ."

Who the hell constantly keeps a one land hand in ANY format...?

There's nothing I love more than watching Seth have an absolute blast playing Burn, a deck he so vocally hates. Watching him screw up sequencing on such an "easy" deck he hates is the cherry on top. Burn seems like such an easy deck from the outside, because you can play it badly on auto-pilot, but the small edge you get by using spells in the right order depending on the situation is what makes the deck. It's one of the easiest decks to play badly, and one of the hardest to play well. The amazing thing is that this deck is so close to the Pauper version. You could probably put both versions in a commander deckbox. Somewhat humorously, Pauper Burn runs either 16 or 18 lands, and this one is 19. At one point I was running 6 or 7 spells that required sacrificing a land to cast and only 16 mountains. (Shard Volley) The 4 Fireblast + 2-3 Shard Volley + 16 mountains was way too greedy, but it was fun when it worked and you fired off the "sac 3 mountains do 7 damage" turn 3/4 finishing move! I still think it's LoL that Pauper is the format where a deck runs the least lands, and like zero ramp or mana rocks. Pauper Burn is like "if I've played 4 mountains, I should scoop because I've already lost."

Just curious, why no Dragon Rage Channelers? the surveil sounds good to keep from drawing lands when flooding or the opposite.

Yoooo, that modest mouse shirt, tho’ 👀

roiling vortex seems insane in legacy cause it makes alle the force spells basically unplayable if its in play. It will shoot them for 5 cause they didnt spend any mana to cast them, so if anything maybe board in more?

Is there any reason to have fury? It seems pretty free here

Very first game: that tundra was more expensive than the entire burn deck.

Love when you play legacy!

Love the meme thumbnail lmao

In the last game. You hard cast rift bolt for 3, your opponent hits their token with swords to go to four, you respond by bolting their face. If they don't have the counter, bolt resolves first and they die.

I just want to know, what program does he play on?

Would Manamorphose be any good in here, possibly instead of Light Up the Stage? Gives you a way to hardcast Leyline of the Void. Alternatively, is a different graveyard-killer better, such as Tormod's Crypt?

I proved it can 5-0 about a year ago. I had countless 4-1's and would 3-2 at least 85% of the time. I might pick it back up and break a few hearts in the MTGO leagues. 🤪 I love these videos

I played legacy worlds for 5 years... came in 9th 5 straight years... I wish I could still play it

Seth, I love you, all these videos are great series. but please, could you not introduce the deck every single time you start a game, please? :p

I'm curious if Demonfire could make it in a burn list against control as a last resort finisher. Hmmm

love the thumbnail meme

Match 2 game 2 vs oops all spells. Would you consider keeping a good explosive 7 card hand with a leyline BUT no lands?

I went 5-2 in a 70 person tournament playing budget zoo 😁

great thumbnail LOL

Five years ago… wow you are making me feel old Seth

The problem with lands is that ponder and brainstorm are part of your manabase in legacy. That's why every deck plays blue haha

Why isn't every deck in legacy (that's not blue) playing 4 void mirror in the main?

I love this thumbnail

You might want 4 red blasts in the sideboard

31:00 amazing gamble and it played out!

God the reserve list was a mistake. Cool deck!!

flame rift over exquisite firecraft seems easy

Running 1 of each fetch for mountains and 4 fiery islets and putting the 4 x price of progress in the board and running 4x vexing devil in the main. That would be my suggestion.

Firecraft isnt legacy exclusive. There was a point it was in modern burn sb and fireblast is maindecked in pauper burn

Seth Roiling Vortex hates on forces. You really should keep it in and side in more va blue decks.

Average cost of a modern deck is $1,167, so it would be the equivalent of playing a $48 deck. Average cost of a standard deck is $280 , equivalent being an $11 deck which is hilarious to think about.

Yes! This is my paper legacy deck and people don't know what hit them.

round 5 is Omni sneak (closer to Sneak and show) not Omni tell

Couldn't you have tried to bolt in response to the swords on the shark token for the win? I know hindsight but was worth a shot

Den of the bug bear, Gemstone mine, Vivid Cragg, Spinerock Knoll, Mount Doom, Dragonskull Summit… thanks Wizards of the Coast.. for forgetting to add that they count as a mountain… Making it harder to incorporate you know what. Btw does great furnace count as a mountain or not?

"Vortext" :D

The thumbnail kills me

Seth, never concede to Oops until they show you the Oracle AND the Dread Return. They only play 1 each and with no Brainstorm, it's not out of the question that they get stuck in hand.

Love some legacy!

That flood at 42:00 was ungodly.

its too bad we cant know if your opponent had a counter in hand. the way they were playing the mage and plowshering it to get to 6 kinda feels as if they didnt had counters in hand. but i dont see the line where suspending the rift bolt can do anything better for you since you were flodded anyway. really exciting match though!!!!

Are you not supposed to mulligan 1 landers?

love me some legacy, sweet

Is there somewhere that explains the 2nd game better? Not a legacy player so it was a brief description.

I'd take that challenge

fireblast is not legacy exclusive, it's also a pauper staple!

9:48 Have you heard of Kappa Cannoneer?

I'm not a burn vs oops all spells expert, but to me it looks like the whole combo falls apart if you can kill any of the Narcoamoebas. Missing one damage from prowess doesn't change the clock (1hp vs 2hp), so you could hold onto instant burn and at worst you could throw it during the end step if opponent doesn't try to go off. And if they do, they also need pact to stop you from bolting their combo away.

I like the idea of a budget deck, but because the answer is always monored, it gets kind of boring. Also around 43 minutes, ¿Why did you suspend the card instead of just paying 3 to burn? you had more than enough mana to try to go for the win right over there, specially if you saw the opponent desperate to gain life... meaning he had no more counters in hand?

189 is not ultra budget. Relatively cheap yes, but ultra budget is somewhere between 20-30€. There is a reanimator, infect, boggles, and some combos that can easily fit in less than 50€ for an actually competetive version, and 20€ if going for a more luck dependent builds. There is also cheaper version of burn without eidolons and goblin guides that could fit in the actual ultra budget category.