God said he will spit out the lookwarm people out of his mouth. It is God's will that no man should die. And because of this love, he sent himself to pay the price, so he could make a route back home for the lost. And so all men are called to that route redemption paid for by Jesus, but few are those that will find the road. Because narrow is the road, but many people like to wonder off the narrow road that the prodigal son toke to his father: Having first decided that his actions were beneath that of a son, he set out on the narrow path to his forgiving and waiting father, who has indeed kept him, till he finally came to his senses.

Yup

@@docb9537 Notice how the protocol son was welcomed home with loving arms, meaning he never lost his sonship. However, his inheritance was still squandered and never recovered. Meaning, not all are equal in heaven, some earn crowns, many do not. Some store up treasures in heaven, many do not. Some inherit the kingdom, some get in by the skin of their gnashing teeth. Some are sovereign, some are subjects. We want to be " _Partakers_ " (hebrews et al). I think the church fails congregates by not pointing out that, yes... the Just shall live by Faith (hab 2:4) - saved by Grace - Faith Alone (eph 2:8-9), but works still matter (James 2:22). We won't lose our Salvation, that was paid in full on our behalf (romans 8), but we can lose our inheritance.

@mikes5079 Christ gives us the passport to the enternal life, paid for with his own blood. But we have to follow him unto the plane to the promise land of enternal life . In the same manner, whilst the Isrealites were in Egypt as slaves, God became the savour that took them out of slavery. Like salvation, God did this work, not man. In the wilderness, God sustained them because of his love for them. God then gave them a contract, the laws, and the Ten commandments. They broke the commands and worshipped demons. Because of this, some of them died and went to hell. God even kicked the 10 tribes of Israel out of the promised land. Yet, God said Israel is my inheritance. So who is calling his inheritance, those that follow his commands or those that follow Idols?

The other side of that coin is that once a church falls away, when it gains new members there is no guarantee that the new members ever believed in Jesus. If a church teaches enough false doctrines (one indication of apostasy), how are new members, or current members actually going to be believers? THere already are many cults out there. Are their members true believers? Or do they believe in a counterfeit version of Christianity instead?

I believe the great falling away comes from all those following false doctrines and cults, that currently present themselves as Christians. When the persecution comes, these false groups will fall away, because they never believed in Christ to begin with.

@@seabass22 again, you can’t fall away from something that you never had. I will never fall off a ladder if I never climb up a ladder in order for me to fall off of the ladder, I have to climb up so you cannot fall away from something that you never was a part of

@@LetYourLightShineBeforeMen your views are contradictory to scripture. The falling away is about the apostate church.

@@seabass22 There is no argument, I could repeat your words to you as well. One thing I know we need to be filled with the Holy Spirit and have the anointing of God on our lives and preach and teach the Bible. A lot of people have fallen away from this Holy Spirit to guide me to all Truth .

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I think the obvious answer is both. Some Christians were never Christians to begin with. Meanwhile, others have been walking with God, but for one reason, or another, their faith is gone, or perhaps they have gotten lazy in their walk.

Judas received the spirit and cast out demons and healed people..he was absolutely a brother of Christ…”was” A clear example of someone being a follower..a devoted follower, who turned away..just like the prodigal son…who was absolutely in the fathers house before leaving. Once saved always saved teaches salvation without faith, and that’s bad news

@@mccalltrader dead on - its a pity Mark latched onto this wave of teaching thats suddenly been reawakened in the last five to ten years..the ONLY fallback those that believe it have is 'were they ever really saved' which conveniently dismisses the heartfelt decisions for salvation those people made. It's an end times deception thats slowly sweeping the church and implies you can do what you want cos you have an insurance ticket...it totally devalues the cross, grace and obedience. Taken to its logical conclusion it can destroy churches quickly as they treat cheaply the work of the Holy Ghost.

​@@mccalltraderthats right!!

​@@mccalltrader judas never received the Spirit. The Spirit did not come till Pentecost.

The Lord was referring to false prophets in that passage. "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are as ravenous wolves." Matthew 7:15

Of course entering the kingdom of heaven is not eternal salvation.

​@@chriscampbell9191A prophet is someone who knows the will of the Lord, so as professed followers of Christ who have full access to His revealed word in the Bible, as well as access to the church and the sacraments the Lord provides through the church, we are all prophets as Christians in the Lord's family.

And ends with Him too…cheers.

I am really sorry to hear of your struggles In life, I pray God gives you his blessings. and he is faithful so please don't lose hope and continue to have faith because he Loves You and and he will not forsake you. You will be in my prayers.

Jesus said in John 10:28-29 that NO ONE can take any of his out of his hand, or the Father's hand. John also said that if we confess our sins, the Lord is "faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." 1 John 1:9 John did not add any limits to that statement. There is always hope for the sinner.

Matthew 24:13 implies that you can lose your salvation.

​@@chriscampbell9191the implication of that verse is that He is a Strong Tower and no demon can come up in there and take you,but if ypu run out of the Strong Tower by your choice,youre no longer in His hand

@@wordsofourtestimony6390 The problem with what you just stated is that Jesus did not say that at all. He said -- and repeated it -- that NO ONE can take them out of his hand. And NO ONE can take them out of the Father's hand. That said, if you stray, you will suffer losses. And you may also lose your reward in Heaven -- whatever that reward is. But you can not lose your salvation. Paul made this clear in 1st Corinthians 3:11-15.

@@jamiespinks3657 "He who endures to the end [during the Tribulation, which Jesus was talking about] it is he who shall be saved." Saved from what? The wrath of God, or any of the other horrible things that are described in Revelation? Did Jesus say one thing in John 10 and another thing entirely in Matthew 10 and 24? Paul said that Christians can lose their reward, and suffer loss (their works shall be burnt) but they still will be saved. John said in 1st John 5:1 that those who believe that Jesus is the Messiah are saved ("born of God"). We are not to take our salvation lightly. But we can not lose it. To say that one can lose your salvation is to deny what Jesus did on the cross for the believer.

Beloved brother........

He is wrong

He’s spoken against “perserverence of the saints” on many occassions before. I think it’s rather common cause that most coherent bible scholars are against the false doctrine of eternal security because Romans 11:22 makes it clear salvation can be lost and is dependant on you changing your nature. Romans 11:22 “Note then the kindness and the severity of God: severity toward those who have fallen, but God’s kindness to you, provided you continue in his kindness. Otherwise you too will be cut off.” ‭‭

What about Romans Chapter 9. Mercy on whom He has Mercy.

@danielklencovljevic - you are quoting hebrews but you are out of context. Paul is writing to the HEBREWS aka Jews who had accepted Jesus as their savior, but then were going back to their old sacrificial system (animal sacrifice) after Jesus had come. He is saying to them, that if you return to animal sacrifice, instead of accepting Christs one time sacrifice for your sins, you are trampling the blood of Jesus and their remains no more atonement for your sin because you have rejected Jesus as your savior and believe animal sacrifice can save you. It’s not talking about Christians who still sin (whether it be willful or on “accident”). Hope that helps. I struggled with that scripture for years until the Holy Spirit revealed the truth to me.

@@marklucas4472thank you for writing this. Too many people butcher that verse and take it out of context all of the time

@@ethanplacella thank you brother. The enemy caused me to doubt my salvation for years and consider the idea of losing it all together until I had some sound biblical teaching on this, and importantly the Holy Spirit revealing truth. Take care

@@marklucas4472 same with me dude. In 2015/16’ I thought I committed the unpardonable sin and for almost 3 was tormented by it. I wrestled with religious OCD. At one point I know the enemy tried tempting me to just “end it” because if God wouldn’t forgive me why wait, just get it over with so to speak. But I didn’t. By Gods grace I fought through and sought answers and like you the Holy Spirit showed me to truth of what the Bible teaches. Glad you’re still here and set free 👍🏻 keep fighting bro, we can do all things through Christ!

@@ethanplacella that’s a powerful testimony brother. That’s why Satan is described as the great accuser. But we have been set free from the law. Obviously not a license to sin, but when we do sin we have an advocate with the father, Jesus Christ!

Same here All we can do is pray and read God's Word I'm certain He won't keep us in a state of ignorance, especially his own.

You can't accidentally walk away. You can't "oops" your way out of your salvation. If you walk away, you do it on purpose, and your conscience is uncovered by it. I think once saved is the wrong term, TRULY saved, always saved. If you are in relationship with God by grace through faith, you can't simply lose your salvation.

@angelacollins2811 I say this because I did fall away once in my early 20s and was an atheist until 2020. So I dare not take my faith for granted and lightly. I'm glad that God brought me back despite my short sited ignorance of Him at the time. I had this 2D understanding of God, that He didn't exist outside of arbitrary man made religion at the time(all atheists have this assumption) But as time went on, I began to see more and more of objective reality just so happened to have matched up with the claims the Bible spoke of. The fallen nature of man, the world being ruled by evil, the fact that what is called sinful has actual real world negative consequences, the fact that everytime we as humans try to become gods on our own terms, we 100% create hell on Earth. I saw God by understanding the evil that is done when we attempt to omit Him. I thank the Lord Jesus Christ for saving this wretched 1rst world millennial from himself.

@connorohare229 I understand what you mean. I have areas of my own that I keep constantly watch over for fear of falling into error.

I backslid for 30 years and have been back with god for 2 months, i can relate. You have to remember that god loves us, forgives us, and will always give us a 2nd chance. I lived a very sinful life and if god can forgive me he can definately forgive you. In my case, god didnt come to me, i had to submit to god and humble myself, asking for forgivesness, help, and to accept jesus as my lord and savior. Now for the hard part. How can i keep on the right path and know that i am saved and be a good christian? There has to be a way. Thru prayer the holy spirit gave me these 6 steps to help me and hopefully help other christians. 1. Go to church every week and try to get into a bible study group. 2. Read the bible every day. 3. Pray every day and pray with your heart. 4. Listen daily to christian music. 5. You tube has some great bible teachings. 6. Find a felllow christian you can talk to when you are having trouble with your faith. I have been using this and it really works for me. I hope this can help fellow christians to stay true to their faith.

Exactly. But everyone avoids that question

Yes. The scriptures say nothing can take you from God's hand. But that doesn't include you removing yourself. The Bible is full of references to finishing the race, overcoming, keeping the faith you had at the start. Read David Pawson's "Once saved, always saved?" He covers this topic wonderfully.

Saved by faith through grace lest no man boast. You don't do works to get in heaven.

You don't get to heaven by works alone, and not by showing off your works but but living a life putting God first, I think you are giving people an excuse to be Luke warm Christians and saying hey all you have to do is believe in Jesus and your good you can keep living the same way you were. But I say if you truly believe in Jesus you are going to want to do your best to stop sinning. Or else do you truly believe and is that really putting God first. Anyways I don't know for sure neither do you but I definitely don't want to risk leading people down the wrong path by saying you can go off and keep living a life of sin and don't worry your going to heaven because you said you believe in Jesus. Just seems risky to me and not really motivating people to stop living in sin. I do like Pastor Mark Driscoll so don't think I am bashing him but I am surprised he thinks that way when he is usually pretty tough on men doing what they should be doing. However I do understand a fathers Love but if your kids grow up and turn really bad are you going to give them the keys to your home if they steal,Lie,damage your property and are violent towards you. Even though you would forgive them and except them back if they were to change their ways and say sorry. That is how I believe God is.

Too many Christians think they have to earn their salvation, or can earn their salvation, making null what Christ accomplished on the cross. In a sense, they are putting their works in front of God's work on the Cross. And too many Christians think they can lose their salvation, making Christ's sacrifice for them, and God's love for them, also null and void. This is why what Mr. Driscoll teaches here is important. You can not save yourself. Good works can not save you. What Christ accomplished on the Cross saves you. Believing in him is the only requirement. As for those who stray, Paul said that at the judgment of the righteous "if any man's work is burned up, he shall suffer loss, but he himself shall be saved, yet so as through fire." 1st Cor. 3:15 Salvation is a gift from God. It can not be earned. Even so, it is not a gift that should be taken lightly -- but it is a gift just the same.

The real problem is too many people think they can continue to live in sin and be saved. The works we are to do is to live as Christ and love God with all our hearts and love our neighbor not charity work or lighting candles. No one who continues to sin has either seen him or known him. The one who does what is sinful is of the devil. If we claim to have fellowship with and live in the darkness we lie and do not live out the truth. I'm confused why so many Christian's have a hard time accepting that you have to confess your sins and yes you will be forgiven by the grace of Jesus Christ blood but what about people that say I Believe and are homosexual or are commiting adultery or is okay with having abortions and don't truly repent. Even devil worshipers believe in Jesus Christ are they going to heaven? I think anyone that gets upset about being able to lose salvation needs to think about how they are living. And it is very dangerous to teach people that they can continue to sin without trying not to sin what if your wrong? That is is a very risky thing to teach people. I think it is wise to teach people to ask for forgiveness of sin and try and sin no more, of course everyone sins and anyone that claims not to is a liar but we are supposed to love God enough we resist sin. Will you still go to heaven? I don't know but I do know that you will be judged and God will let you know for sure and it is best to try and live in the light and not the darkness.

So you don’t believe God can change your nature? You don’t think you can be transformed by the renewal of your mind? Your comment implies people cannot be changed by God when they become saved. And that’s just wrong

I guess that’s the part you have to figure out yourself. It is called christian way of life.

Believe the Gospel 1 Corinthians 15: 1-4 / BORN AGAIN JOHN 3:3. One must realize they are a dirty, rotten SINNER and are hellbound without Jesus. Revelation 20:15

I agree. Does God love us unconditionally? Yes. But there are conditions to enter Heaven, which are laid out in his commandments.

That is referring to "simple" belief. People try to believe that their faith needs works to be "genuine" and will add their own good works onto what Jesus did for them, therefore essentially calling the sacrifice of Jesus insufficient. James 2:9-10 "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all." If you ever lied as a kid, you are instantly guilty of a sin against an eternal and Holy God. The wages of sin is death. But God loved the world. He gave His only begotten son, who lived the perfect sinless life we could never do, and died. Bearing the weight of all past, present, and future sins. Once we believe in Him, God the Father keeps us. John 10:28-30 How you choose to live will determine your eternal reward. You are still saved even if you live a life of carnality as long as you have believed the gospel, which is that Christ died for your sins, and was raised from the dead to give you newness of life. He did it all to make it possible for you.

And very difficult

@@matthewdavis8385 you draw many conclusions yet what you are doing is calling scripture a lie

@@matthewdavis8385 Many are called few are chosen

@@matthewdavis8385 Many are called few are chosen

Because they rejected the idea of Christ's sacrifice for their sins, and did not believe in him.

Exactly. So wouldn't that mean that they no longer have his gift of salvation? Or "lost" it?

@@bowhunt9968 If someone is presented the truth of Jesus Christ, and reject it, they are in risk of going to hell. I say "risk", because sometimes God reaches people later in life, or reaches a person in ways that the rest of us may not see. We see actions, God sees the heart. If a person believes in Christ, they are born of God, and saved. 1st John 5:1 That does not preclude chastisement and/or punishment (discipline) by God on the believer for their non-Christian actions (as mentioned several places in the NT -- 1st Corinthians 3:15, Hebrews 12:5-8, Rev. 3:19).

Not true, if you say “no one would be saved” the you indirectly say “God cannot change anyone’s nature when He saves them”

Not true, but if we have no part in it then it's either that the Lord wants some to be lost, which isn't true, or that everyone is saved regardless of what they do, which is universalism and also not true.

May the lord bless you with peace only he can give. Praying for you brother

Are there people in your life, past or present, that you're harboring unforgiveness and vengeance towards? I ask because the Lord won't forgive us if we don't forgive others in our hearts and because vengeance belongs to the Lord, not us. We're not completely holy and sinless to be able to weild vengeance or to heal as the Lord promises when we're not forgiving others for their trespasses against us. Start praying for people you struggle with or can't stand at all, and keep doing that so the Lord will examine your heart and reveal its current state to you. Then work on what He reveals to you with Him in prayer and practice.

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@lifestylehomestead - wrong, Paul addresses this in 1 Corinthians 5, vs 1-5 And vs 5 says “Then you must throw this man out and hand him over to Satan so that his sinful nature will be destroyed and he himself will be saved on the day the Lord returns.” ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭5‬:‭5‬ ‭

Saved by faith through grace lest no man boast. You are saved to eternity once you are born again as you are a new creation. God will work through no you working to get to God. A born again Christian can never have the salvation get taken away. If you are being lukewarm then you were never saved.

@@danielpickrell8311 The important part of the passage above is the inability to boast. We can't EARN salvation in the sense that God could owe it to us. We are definitely saved by our faith in Jesus alone, but true faith requires action to be alive. Per James, faith without works is dead.

No you cannot.

Then tune around. They will love you when you are in the Light doing G-ds will. If they don’t love you then then re evaluate your relationship with them. You can honor them from a. Far.

@@mumbles215 they never will

Have you ever taken a gift back from someone?

‭Psalm 27:10 ESV‬ [10] For my father and my mother have forsaken me, but the Lord will take me in. 🙏❤

That is the unforgivable sin. But if in your heart there is repentance God will forgive

Many people will claim Christ. But in the end to many Jesus will say "I never knew you."

How would we know of the prodigal story then?

If you don't even know if you are saved, you aren't saved. Period. There are many ways you can tell if a person is saved, such as a love for the Word etc. etc. If you sin and don't feel bad afterwards or even during it, you aren't saved, period. If you have no actual experience of God, you are not saved, period. The question is not about salvation here - the question is not about God not losing anybody after having saved them - the question is, do people deliberately turn their back on God and chose the world or sin over Him? And the answer is YES. That does happen, it's been seen to happen and it is written in the Bible. Period.

@@user-pl7si5pn5k exactly and the OSAS position teaches that if you do those things you were never saved to begin with. So if a OSAS believer 5 years from now turns from Christ his own position would condemn him as never saved to begin with. Thus in the present he can’t know if he is saved.

@@cloudx4541 I don't know much about OSAS but I do know it is not the same as eternal security or the P in the TULIP, as those latter ideas are based on a person already being saved.

@@user-pl7si5pn5k it’s the same for the P in tulip except with that view a believer can appear to be regenerated for a time but God merely gave them a fake grace for a season ultimately purposing them for reprobation and damnation. John Calvin called this evanescent grace

Dude I am so glad to see another Christian listening to the Bible teachings of David Pawson. His explaining of the scriptures has changed my entire walk with Christ on the way to glory!

You cant be unborn again. 1 John 3:9. Read 1 John for yourself, no teachers, no doctors, just you and God. Ask him to show you. Read all of 1 John, and then ask yourself why our scholars and teachers arent teaching us the new birth?

@@user-td3ve9ch3f same! I've never been much of a reader, but I've read four of his books, so far. His teachings rekindled my faith and brought me back to the Lord.

The Gospel 1 Corinthians15:1-4KJV Born Again John 3:3 KJV

Saved by faith through grace. If you are out there still in the world and claim christian then you are not saved. You have to born again to understand it.

There would be no "least in the kingdom' if we could lose salvation

Once saved always saved. The devil can fill because your temple is filled with the holy spirit so what the devil do is try to cause you to stumble. Always think supernatural.

Then they weren't a true followers of Christ.

It's not.

NO it absolutely does not. False. Show us all exactly where YOU get your conclusion from. FROM GOD'S WORD.

It does not teach that. Did God ever break a promise to Isreal?

I can’t imagine being so perfect that I could earn my salvation, that impressive!

False

Chapter and verse? Oh. Ya. It doesn’t say that.

The Bible promises Isreal will be redeemed.

@@WitnessToTheEnd doesn't mean that they by their actions didn't fall out of favor with God by their own disobedience. And it doesn't say all of Israel. Only the chosen just as with the rest of us are. We are chosen of God, Predestined in Christ.

@Daniel_Spirit_Led falling out of favor because of disobedience is not the same as losing a promise from God. A chosen remnant will return to God. But their disobedience never negated God's promise.