Can DF Reviewers Ignore Tech Flaws And Enjoy Games?

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15 күн бұрын

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@mint3
@mint3 13 күн бұрын
I’ve seen people criticize you guys for critiquing a game’s technical performance….. it’s like being mad at water for being wet.
@CheckmateStallioN
@CheckmateStallioN 13 күн бұрын
Isnt the main point of DF to critique a game's performance and visuals? DF is not a game review journalist. If some people get asshurt over their criticism they found the wrong channel and should stick to IGN instead
@BagheeraRaceGamer
@BagheeraRaceGamer 13 күн бұрын
That blasted water... If only...
@cosmicgamingunlimited
@cosmicgamingunlimited 13 күн бұрын
Their “reviews” never even have a score that can even be used by meta critic.
@madnessarcade7447
@madnessarcade7447 10 күн бұрын
@@CheckmateStallioNsure it’s their main point but it’s boring It takes the fun and soul out of everything seeing how it “works” Isn’t it better to just vibe and just embrace the magic and the fantasy It’s like when you first find out that Santa isn’t real or when you see how a magician does his trick It takes the fun out of it Better to be blissfully ignorant when it comes to gaming and game specs
@madnessarcade7447
@madnessarcade7447 10 күн бұрын
How we were as kids
@thejuiceweasel
@thejuiceweasel 13 күн бұрын
Literally every other games media outlet is ignoring tech flaws, I'm glad there's one to turn to to see if a game is running or not.
@madnessarcade7447
@madnessarcade7447 10 күн бұрын
⁠sure it’s their main point but it’s boring It takes the fun and soul out of everything seeing how it “works” Isn’t it better to just vibe and just embrace the magic and the fantasy It’s like when you first find out that Santa isn’t real or when you see how a magician does his trick It takes the fun out of it Better to be blissfully ignorant when it comes to gaming and game specs Like how we were as kids
@KarlTheExpert
@KarlTheExpert 6 күн бұрын
​@@madnessarcade7447Your're actually spamming your weird diatribe under every other post. You feeling okay? Maybe log off for a bit.
@Christopher-md7tf
@Christopher-md7tf 6 күн бұрын
They don't ignore them, you just have to read the actual review and not just look at the number at the end lol
@apostolos8734
@apostolos8734 13 күн бұрын
Why would anyone come to digital foundry of all channels and not expect to see them criticize the technology being used?
@madnessarcade7447
@madnessarcade7447 10 күн бұрын
⁠sure it’s their main point but it’s boring It takes the fun and soul out of everything seeing how it “works” Isn’t it better to just vibe and just embrace the magic and the fantasy It’s like when you first find out that Santa isn’t real or when you see how a magician does his trick It takes the fun out of it Better to be blissfully ignorant when it comes to gaming and game specs
@madnessarcade7447
@madnessarcade7447 10 күн бұрын
How we were as kids
@KarlTheExpert
@KarlTheExpert 6 күн бұрын
​@@madnessarcade7447Yeah we get, you're hate-watching DF. You sure you aren't actually still a child?
@zZiL341yRj736
@zZiL341yRj736 12 күн бұрын
They all gonna look at a puddle in real life and said, hhhmmm screen space reflections.
@Slomwotion
@Slomwotion 9 күн бұрын
All the time
@curtisghall
@curtisghall 13 күн бұрын
is that starship troopers playing in the background?
@maximprikhodko8204
@maximprikhodko8204 13 күн бұрын
Yep.
@digitalarsenal5234
@digitalarsenal5234 13 күн бұрын
It is, and it's THAT scene... Thankfully John has good DoF there.
@turrican4d599
@turrican4d599 11 күн бұрын
@@digitalarsenal5234 Indeed. I remember how disappointed I was after I had seen her in Dragonheart.
@JamesGowan
@JamesGowan 13 күн бұрын
DF is the one channel that critiques performance and I’m fine with that. We need one channel with that focus. i can go to a million other channels to focus on the game itself. I come here to see if it the game runs well.
@Xilent1
@Xilent1 13 күн бұрын
Coming from Console. PC & DF helped me understand what these "graphical issues" were. Back in my Console days, I would play a game I know now as 30fps, but would dip to say 20fps abruptly. I thought that was part of the game in some situations. 🤣Now I know those were "technical issues" and not planned events. 😂PC introduced me to MicroStutters, Inconsistent Frame Pacing & Traversal Stutters. So, I agree with John and Rich. Then I learned about Game Engines and Optimizations helps a TON. I felt the exact same way as Alex on Dead Space. I like to add that I hate it when you buy and don't know about all the little tricks needed to get a game to work. Like Battlefield games have a thing with needing to delete old cache files to get into a server faster or at all. Or a game where you need to edit this .doc file for whatever reason.
@turrican4d599
@turrican4d599 11 күн бұрын
Or these console commands to get Q3A as beautiful as possible, or stncil shadows in Elite Force. DOOM 3 vanilla had uneven framepacing out of the box when going for 60fps VSync, so there was a console command against that, too.
@damianabregba7476
@damianabregba7476 11 күн бұрын
It is a double edged sword. Overfocusing on every frame and every detail can make experience worse compared to just focusing on game and enjoying for what it is
@VituNff
@VituNff 9 күн бұрын
Sometimes ignorance is bliss, I went the completely other way got out of PC and into consoles. I'm currently playing the old Baman games at 30FPS, feeling great. Young me couldn't even handle a dip from 90 to 60FPS with G-Sync.
@KarlTheExpert
@KarlTheExpert 6 күн бұрын
​@@VituNffMakes no sense, ypu son't need a console to play at low framerates. But hey, some people enjoy moving backwards and regressing as a person.
@VituNff
@VituNff 5 күн бұрын
@@KarlTheExpert Miss me with that 'gaming as a hobby' shit.
@jbway86
@jbway86 9 күн бұрын
Im like Alex. Ive been playing alot of games on PC thats like 10-15 yo thwt i never got a chance to play. Just recently Ive played Singularity and Call of Juarez Gunslinger. Also just purchased a 3rd Person cover game like Gears called Invasion that I never heard of and played.
@TatankaTaylor
@TatankaTaylor 13 күн бұрын
I mean a technically flawed game is very different from a game that was limited in scope due to having a small budget. Dunno why some confuse the two. A techically flawed game can ruin the experience for a player. By being an unpolished game that runs with too many issues that could've been solved with a few more months of developement. And you feel like it was rushed through the door. But a game that uses simple graphics or had a small budget can also have technical issues. But that has nothing to do with its use of simple graphics or effects. And probably more with having a small budget that limited how much time the game had in the oven.
@andrewshatalin9666
@andrewshatalin9666 9 күн бұрын
Not sure I agree on Dragons Dogma 2 on PS5 with updates. Seems to run better than before and it's an amazing game.
@NextNate03
@NextNate03 13 күн бұрын
Who's here for Starship Troopers?!?!
@avflashback8913
@avflashback8913 13 күн бұрын
Having read Rich's reviews in Mean Machines Sega when I was a teen in the Early 90's I believe that he could easily bypass a game's flaws and enjoy it today like I could. But the young gamers like John seen to be incredibly fussy and precise about what games they like. The younger generation today seem to be very hard to please. I can happily play a PC game in VGA at 30fps. I don't think John or Alex can handle that.
@seanmcbay
@seanmcbay 9 күн бұрын
HW: Age of Calamity ran pretty damn bad but I still greatly enjoyed it.
@BagheeraRaceGamer
@BagheeraRaceGamer 13 күн бұрын
I really had to put effort into finishing Jedi Survivor. Because I really liked the story, levels combat... But the constant dips and crashes really made it hard for me. Now I'm grinding through Hogwart's Legacy.
@nickochioneantony9288
@nickochioneantony9288 12 күн бұрын
does Hogwarts Legacy worth your time? I want to get into the game, but something tells me it will be a typical AAA mechanic-based game with uninteresting perks, bloated dialogues, etc. don't get me wrong, AAA can be satisfying such as Ghost of Tsushima PC port, a breath of fresh air when compared to Jedi Survivor optimization
@RobKorV
@RobKorV 12 күн бұрын
​I enjoyed Hogwarts more than Jedi Survivor. Exploration in Hogwarts is really rewarding. The side missions have their own little mini story, some even continue over multiple side missions. Like all open world games it becomes a bit repetitive after a while. The fighting is also pretty cool.
@gothpunkboy89
@gothpunkboy89 13 күн бұрын
Fallout New Vegas is popular and that is one of the buggiest fallout games. So yeah people ignore issues with games all the time.
@KarlTheExpert
@KarlTheExpert 6 күн бұрын
It had bugs but ran very well on my PC back then. Even when it crashed it took less than 10secs to be back in. Would not have been tolerable on consoles for me.
@Boss_Fight_Wiki_muki_twitch
@Boss_Fight_Wiki_muki_twitch 13 күн бұрын
.... yeah, no, maybe...
@JPgreekgaming
@JPgreekgaming 12 күн бұрын
...what is John watching in the background? 😂
@michaelt5459
@michaelt5459 13 күн бұрын
Puff puff pass, Alex!
@2greenify
@2greenify 13 күн бұрын
Since I learned programing in college, games lost a lot of magic for me. Am I alone in this?
@Nintenko
@Nintenko 13 күн бұрын
Omg yes John I’m the same screen tearing and frame pacing, absolutely hate it! Can’t stand that stuff!
@davidaitken8503
@davidaitken8503 13 күн бұрын
I think everyone is just way to fussy these days about technical imperfections. Get over it and just play the damn game. The problem is many of the games they focus on are big budget AAA shovelware games that don't have much compelling gameplay to hold your attention in the first place.
@MadManCorp
@MadManCorp 13 күн бұрын
Jedi Survivor virgin lol
@DanicFTW
@DanicFTW 13 күн бұрын
that dead space stutter issue was way overblown and hurt the game. i played the game on a 4-5 year harddrive with a 2060 super and never had severe stutters.
@seizonsha
@seizonsha 13 күн бұрын
Not a popular opinion here but...Well said!
@Matt.Hurley
@Matt.Hurley 13 күн бұрын
I agree I even 100%ed it on PC with my i5 and 3060 ti
@richardhunter9779
@richardhunter9779 13 күн бұрын
Or maybe nobody wanted to play a graphical update that was not even technically sound? Also, everyone but EA is somehow able to alleviate technical problems after launch, weird.
@Cartycinema
@Cartycinema 13 күн бұрын
You absolutely had stutters. You can’t play that game without stutters.
@mint3
@mint3 13 күн бұрын
I couldn’t play it on my 3080 because of VRAM limits. Just something about the config of my computer didn’t like that game until I upgraded my gpu
@CheckmateStallioN
@CheckmateStallioN 13 күн бұрын
It is extremely hard to enjoy a game that has shader compillation stutters, traversal stutters, bad frame pacing, and frame drops. Jedi Survivor I'm looking at you
@simonrockstream
@simonrockstream 13 күн бұрын
I cant and I wont
@mondodimotori
@mondodimotori 13 күн бұрын
GTA San Andreas was one of the best snd most sold game of that generation. Technologycally it was extremely flawed and obsolete.
@deathtrooper2048
@deathtrooper2048 13 күн бұрын
It was pushing the limites of the PS2.​@@mondodimotori
@mrpiratefox4497
@mrpiratefox4497 13 күн бұрын
@@deathtrooper2048 but not the ones on PC or Xbox, and the PC version is the worst of the 3, yet its still the prefered way to play it today
@mondodimotori
@mondodimotori 13 күн бұрын
@@deathtrooper2048 exactly. A console at the end of its lifecicle. On PC we we're playing Half Life 2. And even then it wasn't a technical masterpiece. The pc port is still broken to this day and, if you go over 30 fps, phisics breaks. Yet it's one of my favourite games and one of the most successful of that period. It's not technological prowess that makes a game good. GTA San Andreas it's just an example I'm really familiar with.
@vandammage1747
@vandammage1747 13 күн бұрын
Well DF thinks 900p and 30fps is acceptable in 2024 that sets the bar very low.
@ttghhgg1918
@ttghhgg1918 13 күн бұрын
If the game is woke DF won’t criticise it n also if it’s Lden ring they won’t talk about it’s garbage performace n how crap it runs while looking like turd
@mondodimotori
@mondodimotori 13 күн бұрын
Touch some grass
@ttghhgg1918
@ttghhgg1918 13 күн бұрын
@@mondodimotori touched it more than you ever will
@OneStepToDeath420
@OneStepToDeath420 13 күн бұрын
Just hit the bong and it's all good.
@RonniSchmidt-mi7pd
@RonniSchmidt-mi7pd 13 күн бұрын
lmao
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