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That wing chun jab is lightning quick it's basically an invisible jab

Please Wonderboy, stop playing around and get more serious. You could be champ, you just gotta spar harder. All videos I see of you (I see all of them) you are not pushing yourself too much. You need the eye of the tiger

An awesome joke is forming in my mind.

My joke: Well it's pretty intellectual and sarcastic. (Dam, I lost it) ha ha!. It's great to be able to afford Music Television these days! I am here in England, where I noticed. In the bar, in around 1995. In what, was in effect. A youth club in 1995 or 1996 perhaps. Or, a nightclub. We were able to sneak into. Everyone there, seemed to know the lyrics to The Offspring songs! So, looking back, to try and understand. How, did they all know the lyrics? Pirate cassettes? From buying Offspring, Smash? I don't think the songs, got that much radio play, so maybe it was playing on UK MTV a lot? Incredible, how the whole club, seemed to know every word of The Offspring song: Self Esteem. When The Offspring, were signed, to Epitaph Records. So, reading online. The lead singer of this band was linked to Epitaph Records. Which, was a record label shared by. The Offspring and Bad Religion. The singer sounds, like he has a cold. He, has an accent. It's not quite the same, as The Offspring song. Which sounds shouted, but also. Muted. Like, the singer is trying to hit, a certain volume. Not, giving his all. But, trying to sound like he, is shouting, but also attempting to keep the volume down. This song, sounds like the singer is pinching his nose, as he is singing. I think it's maybe a scene for successful people. I don't see it as Punk Rock. More, popular rock of the serious type, who is intelligent and, has a steady job. Mainly male fan base is my guess, like the frustrated Rockers at an Iron Maiden gig perhaps? But, less violent!?

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That’s always what the art has needed it’s been outdated too long but it’s nice to finally see it come back.

Wing Chun only works when it’s used by non wing chun fighters 😅. Wonderboy can make it work because of his decades of sparring and fight experience. He understands space and time in a way that the average wing chun practitioner will never develop because the art is rarely pressure tested. I’m sure if wing chun schools got out the pads and headgear and actually sparred and tested their techniques they would develop a competent skill set.

@@253MC the problem is sometimes traditional martial artist have too much pride to adapt.

The oblique kick is useful that’s from Wing Chung, it’s so effective that Wonderboy wanted it Illegal to use.

Hi man are you from Devon, England? 😁🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿👍🤝 I recognise your name. A billion Chinese can't be wrong Dude!

Ngemeng ae u

Haha they do not take it seriously.

@Sinful Bastard Child 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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Nah that song is not a walk out song..

I understand why you would want him to, but when you have permission to use "Wonderboy" by Tenacious D you have to use it, you know? The D doesn't give out rights like some other bands so I think it's gonna stay till he hangs em up.

Uh it's wonderboy by tenacious d until he retires.

Kevin Holland will be battlepunched wing Chun style

@@illuporegg8558 Seeing how WB already uses that karate style blitz in with a quick 1-2 or 1-2-lead roundhouse I don't see it as a huge stretch for him to actually incorporate this into his blitz.

Yeah Stephen does identify techniques methods and situations very well. He has a sharp eye

Almost like he's a professional fighter

@@pointysidedown Nate Diaz *cough*

Great stuff on his channel. You should check it out.

look pretty hard to use against head movement. Those straight punch have tinny area for hitting a moving target head. I would imagine it s however pretty good for body work

@@colorfulbleeding Sifu used to say, if you land the first one the rest will follow up on its own

I bet it would be really good in the bareknuckle world.

@@colorfulbleeding Yeah straights are nice but you have to set them up. When I throw a series of straight punches I'm really only expecting the 3rd to hit. With both my southpaw bread and butter double jab left cross, or my double shift jab, cross, cross, both southpaw and orthodox its the 3rd punch that is the one I'm expecting to land. The double shift is a good example because I'm anticipating that my opponent will avoid the first 2 punches. On the jab I'm expecting him to step or sway back. On the cross I'm expecting a slip, they cant step back again because the jab forced their weight to the back foot so their defensive option is to slip inside. Its the second cross I'm expecting to land because my opponent has slipped into it. Yeah its nice when the first cross lands but that isn't the goal.

Depending on the style of Wing Chun you're trained in, I think it can be incredibly complimentary to other styles, just not as a standalone style. For example, my sifu in the 90s used to cross-train us in Judo and a "non-competitive" style of Taekwondo. Judo fits well because his style of Wing Chun _heavily_ emphasized tactile sensitivity and the notion of instantly predicting your opponent's move by touch (LOTS of Chi Sau), and perfectly complements Judo (or any grappling style). Meanwhile, the Taekwondo he taught was meant to cover Wing Chun's weaknesses, which were range and kick variety. Today, we've definitely got more refined mixing and matching in our MMA. But for the 90s, I think this was a bit ahead of its time, and was a great starting point for people interesting in not simply making Wing Chun "work," but making it enhance other styles as well.

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well the hand traping stuff is unique to wing chun actually and its been used by many fighter in the past but often by accident and so it hasn't been crafted the same way wing chun has. the primary use i see for it in MMA is actually the punch style itself as it will reduce potential hand injury and actually if every fighter punched this way you wouldn't need gloves at all. secondly the way wing chun combines its hand traps with punches actually creates legitimate openings because of how fast it is and the fact that your bypassing there guard

@@netanelohimwarren3629 You do not see trapping in fights. I’m not saying it can’t work, I’m saying it’s not trained or used in a way to prove it’s value. I’m sure Ng Mui’s Wing Chun looked very different and the Temple still fell. I agree there would be less hand injury and we do see Wing Chun style punching in MMA, mostly from top position.

@Paul Blackman wow, thanks for your positive feedback.

Yeah this is it.

One time I was the zoo and one grizzly bear and two gorillas escaped their enclosures, they ganged up and started to rob people, when they approached me first I kicked the bear I the nuts using the crane kick my sifu taught me, the kick was so hard that one of the nuts flew and hit one of the gorillas in the head knockin it out. With one kick I disposed both the bear and one of the gorillas, the other gorilla saw this and apologized and went back to his enclosure, I spared him, he is still grateful to this day.

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Thanks, that motivates me to learn wing chun.

Yeah I was thinking the same thing, out of all the techniques they went over, that is my favorite one. I'm thinking of trying it out when I spar, it's sneaky.

It can be depending on who you learn it from and how they train & spar.

It could be practical if the fight doesn't end on the ground.

@@max801 the way they generate power in their punches is interesting. Good for if you're attacked in a phone booth or tight hallway.

Share a link. Would be awesome

That is true I combine wrestling with my boxing

why do u think vertical fist is exclusive to wc?

I use vert jab it’s not rare in boxing

I think a huge part of wing chun's failure to be present in modern fighting arts is that people conflate "present with wing chun" as "ONLY present in wing chun" (see Chris Chan Shih Yung and Toby jarrett's comments). The truth of Chinese boxing is that people focus on the 'Chinese' more than they do on the 'boxing', and that the concepts are alive and well even in modern styles. You see Canelo, Lomachenko, and GGG bat down hands in a manner that could conceivably be taught in a WC school. You see Teofimo Lopez use his forearms in a way that is pretty congruent with WC methodology. The theories are sound, but applied wing chun doesn't look like wing chun formwork any more than boxing looks exactly like padwork or the speed bag. Vertical fists, parries, forearm defenses - they're not exclusive to wing chun, they're just also present there. It's a style of infighting, it doesn't work well if you don't have a way to get inside or to break/ prevent the clinch. Anybody who just decides "I'm gonna wing chun this man" is gonna get themselves hurt, but if you are smart about the application then you can reasonably expect to successfully mix it into your striking.

@@chrischanshihyung3155 a technique doesnt have to be exclusive to be used in a style :)) just like how a rear hand cross isn't exclusive to boxing or even any martial arts--yet it is still a staple strike in boxing--or like a roundhouse kick to muay thai, or head movement in kickboxing, etc.

@@tobyjarrett4042 true! pacquiao and lomachenko are indeed boxers LOL [ doesn't mean its not part of wing chun tho :) ]

Wrong. The guy owns a wooden dummy. That's it, buddy

@@dizdeck357 he used Wing Chun multiple times against Anthony Pettis

@@tferg4092 if you don't train wing Chun you won't have the eye or the understanding of what you're looking at. Trust me, he doesn't know wing chun

@@dizdeck357 Joe Rogan must not know what he's talking about either I didn't say he full on uses it but there is techniques that he does use from Wing Chun

@@tferg4092 every UFC fight is using some "techniques " of wing Chun. But it doesn't make it wing Chun

He is a professional MMA Blackbelt kickboxer! I expect him to be able to do this!

@@rosemarietolentino3218 To be fair, I've seen other vids of this type where yt guys just give weird looks at the wing chun techniques being taught to them, like "how the hell is this gonna work" type of looks. WB on the other hand, was enjoying himself and looked very eager to learn.

I recommend search Kenneth Chung here on KZfaq. I think he turned 70 yrs old this year. His English has really improved so Americans can understand him now. I trained under him when he taught in Cantonese.

If I ever train wing chun again it will only be with someone that also has muay thai and preferably also jiu-jitsu but that would not be a deal breaker. If I don't see techniques getting stress tested, no sparring and the sifu is obviously not a fighter I'll immediately leave. I like the system itself and believe there are a lot of really useful techniques hidden in the forms but just knowing the forms is almost as useless as body builder style muscles. I like what Bruce Lee said to a body builder once "that is nice but can you actually use it?"

@@crypticnomad A form Is only a beginning. Sadly many martial artists practice blindly some form and they do not know how to use ideas and applications they could find in them. So of course when they meet a real fighter they are destroyed at once

@@ragdollcatledaandherbutlerstef That was basically why I stopped training at the only place in my area that offers wing chun. The sifu is in the US and international martial arts hall of fame from her years in the business end of running large martial arts schools but she and her husband are the first to admit that they are not fighters. Her husband is a very talented martial artist but not a fighter. What that means to me is that much of the techniques they know will be unavailable to them once their heart starts racing, they get an adrenaline dump and the frontal cortex shuts off(where techniques not stress tested live). That lack of stress testing is the main reason that we see videos of extremely over confident wing chun guys get absolutely handled by mma or muay thai guys and is not because the techniques are useless. Properly stress tested wing chun is extremely effective for short distance striking situations and especially so in a clinch. My limited wing chun training gave me tons of useful concepts that I apply every time I'm in a muay thai clinch

@@crypticnomad you are 100% correct. So many wing chun practitioners dont know what they are drilling because they dont test it. You see grappling get confused with blocking.

Nah its weak af. Stephen should start training at a new gym, just to refreshen his focus in real fights for the future ufc fights

@@vipr1142 weak? Several mma guys have incorporated wing chun into their practice, including Conor megregor so idk what shit you’re smoking.

@@vipr1142 I mean the hand trapping and parrying is pretty realistic a lot of fighters use it to a degree, that punch combo is pretty stupid tho

Nope, it’s not bullshit. Watch ten seconds in how the midget, sorry, wing chun *master is throwing punches with his thumb out wide as far as he can…totally embarrassing and props to WB for tolerating this hot trash.

Tony Ferguson Is the Closest to someone using Wing Ching, but what I’ve noticed about wing Chung is Hooks can break through most of its Defense 🫤 an that’s How Gaethji beat him.

I use it in street fights. It works well but as you noticed it’s very risky especially for novice, intermediate and people who don’t have a horse. Without the horse {stance / movement } Wing Chun doesn’t work at all. It requires years of training to get a good solid horse so if someone attempts to tackle you and shoot for a takedown your horse gives you the ability to maintain position and timing to prevent being taken to the ground and without a good horse there’s no ‘power’ in the punches

I have been doing Wing Chun for over 40 years. It’s the person not the style that makes it work. If it doesn’t work for you maybe you have not had enough real applications to make it work for you.

Add some Iron Palm and it will work even better…

It works I use it and nothing else in streetfights but what you’re recommending is pointless without a proper and good horse. The knees in proper position is what generates Wing Chun not the hands. Wing Chun is from the legs up not the other way.

Spot on Anthony ......."but its principles can be powerful with the right adaptations."..........Many Traditional Martial Art Practitioners walk around with a FALSE since of invisibility!!!......It takes a special mentality and insight for practitioners in many traditional martial arts to be able to "Morph" their ineffective training techniques, applications and methods to be applicable in a real nitty gritty street fight........Of course there are circumstances in which any Martial Art can work against a complete inept Barney Phife Goofball....And the last factor in being successful in a real time street fight is that it is THE INDIVDUAL AND WHAT THEY ARE MADE OF THAT MAKES A MARTIAL ART WORK IN A STREET FIGHT .

I don't think you read my comment correctly.@@dnomyarakunawik38