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Amen! And the same for my hubby and I....

That's awesome!

+90 Seconds of Motivation just imagine how many more opportunities would have opened up if you saved that money instead of paying for your pastor to go out to dinner?

Food for thought - the word “religion”/“religion” does not appear a single time in this video. Food for thought - Jesus Himself rebuked religious folk. Just saying. Cheers.

It's not really a believer thing, even Dave would say so. the 10% tithe thing came from civilizations prior to Judaism but they adopted it as it made sense, which then filtered into Christianity, though they use the term freewill offerings and don't really put a % on it.

David Schmidt says your pastor and your church organization, not God.

Where's the scripture to support that?

If that is true, then why didn't the apostles teach the churches in the pages of the new tesatament to tithe?

Even Abraham gave a tenth of his income as a tithe. That was before the Bible was written. I feel it's an eternal principle.

Agreed. Time and money are both assets which have great value. And with that said, unfortunately, Dave and I are at odds. It is totally reasonable and generous for this man to volunteer, especially when churches require volunteered talent to sustain many of their operations. Providing talent is a noble cause and there's no way I could rationalize writing off the value of it since that's counterintuitive to the church's cause and even, arguably; arbitrary. Either way, I think it's a great topic and thanks to Dave for posting. Cool question!

DO not KEEP what you cannot afford to keep.

I know Dave says the same thing, and you are free to do what you want certainly, but the bible(old test) mentions 10% of your yield, which means take home. New test doesn't even mention a %, and speaks to it more as an offering("freewill offerings") giving so you're free to do 10% on gross ;)

Where's the scripture that says Christ wants us to tithe? The new testament encourages us to be cheerful givers but tithing is not a requirement or even a suggestion.

I’m with you. We are on the New Testament. Nick Lopez

@@n_l_o I wonder why he didn't answer your question.

@@Sonickrunch OT says 10% but also first fruits. That means farmers (most were) gave the first colt, first calf, first lamb, first kid, etc. First garden produce, first orchard and vineyard produce was also given. Tithe was after that. There is well over 10% in that formula. I see 10% as my rental fee to God for his blessings of all he loaned me. No appreciation for it unless extra is given along the way.

Carrie Evans exactly. And the Bible says it doesn’t necessarily mean money.

False doctrine in this video it seems to me about tithing of money to indoctrinate people into giving 10% of their money because, 1. The Bible tells us that God commanded that only plants and animals be given for tithing, 2. In the Bible we can read that God commanded that if a person had money when they were at the place to tithe that they were to take the money and buy what their soul longeth to eat and bring those edible things only for tithing and not to give money for tithing, 3. To give money for tithing is actually the breaking of God's laws and commandments that were given in the Bible as mentioned beforehand, 4. To continue to follow the old laws of the Bible then, in the new testament it tells us that you then remain under the old curse and are not under the Grace of Jesus, 5. In Hebrews 7 the Bible tells us that the old laws were weak and unprofitable for us and that the laws were disannulled and the priesthood was changed through Jesus because the priests had to offer up sacrifices daily but Jesus only needed to offer himself up only once for us, 6. If ministers tell people we are still under the old laws of giving, then why do they not preach all the laws that were commanded for giving such as redeeming your property, and paying money for your sin offering, and paying a certain amount of money every year according to your age and gender, etc. ? 7. The Bible tells us we are to give Free Will offerings now, 8. The word tithe means basically 10% of something, but in the Bible tithing was done regarding several different things or different years so the giving of tithes was much more then 10% of the things, 9. Tithing in the Bible was only done a few certain times of the year, not every week !, 10. Abraham tithed to Melchizedek from the spoils of war and not from any wages earned, further if you read elsewhere in the Bible we can read that Abraham had received from a King the amount of 1000 pieces of silver and animals and land, but if you read the Bible there is no where in the Bible that states Abraham tithed anything from the 1000 pieces of silver or animals or land that he received. My question is then why would anyone want to try to give money for tithing since it appears that this is actually disobeying God's commandments written in the Bible, and you would remain under the old curses and not under Grace as written in the Bible, and it appears you would be telling God that he does not have the authority to disannull his laws, and it appears you would be denying Jesus's priesthood and sacrifice of himself for us as the ultimate sacrifice only needed once and once only, so why would anyone what to do this ? Yes, give offerings to support your church, give 10% or 1%, or 50% or whatever, but the money is a Free Will offering and not a tithe.

Carrie Evans Yup. It’s straight forward. 1500 years ago, the church establishment asked “how can we guarantee at least 90% of our followers give us money every month? Write a mandatory giving into the book?” “Yes. Exactly. Then I can keep my villa. In modern times. I am positive the church does lots of good with that money. I’m sure it all doesn’t get used properly though. Give what you can give when you can give it. Budget 10% a month to general giving. That sounds good to me. It will have exactly the same effect on your life as handing the church a church tax once a month.

exactly why I'm disillusioned with tithes. I know not all churches are living high on the hog but I'd prefer to get info on charities and give to the one with the least overheads and highest % given to the actual cause

That's not really a good way to evaluate charities, which seems what you want to do. Suppose there are 2 charities that both take in 1000 bucks. 1 gives 900 and helps 900 people with 100 overhead cost. The other gives 100 but is able to help 1000 people, with 900 in overhead. The 2nd one is a lot more effective than the other. I try to be an effective altruist, to give to the best charities. Sure my example is a hypothetical, but there really are charities when compared do something similar in effectiveness.

False doctrine in this video it seems to me about tithing of money to indoctrinate people into giving 10% of their money because, 1. The Bible tells us that God commanded that only plants and animals be given for tithing, 2. In the Bible we can read that God commanded that if a person had money when they were at the place to tithe that they were to take the money and buy what their soul longeth to eat and bring those edible things only for tithing and not to give money for tithing, 3. To give money for tithing is actually the breaking of God's laws and commandments that were given in the Bible as mentioned beforehand, 4. To continue to follow the old laws of the Bible then, in the new testament it tells us that you then remain under the old curse and are not under the Grace of Jesus, 5. In Hebrews 7 the Bible tells us that the old laws were weak and unprofitable for us and that the laws were disannulled and the priesthood was changed through Jesus because the priests had to offer up sacrifices daily but Jesus only needed to offer himself up only once for us, 6. If ministers tell people we are still under the old laws of giving, then why do they not preach all the laws that were commanded for giving such as redeeming your property, and paying money for your sin offering, and paying a certain amount of money every year according to your age and gender, etc. ? 7. The Bible tells us we are to give Free Will offerings now, 8. The word tithe means basically 10% of something, but in the Bible tithing was done regarding several different things or different years so the giving of tithes was much more then 10% of the things, 9. Tithing in the Bible was only done a few certain times of the year, not every week !, 10. Abraham tithed to Melchizedek from the spoils of war and not from any wages earned, further if you read elsewhere in the Bible we can read that Abraham had received from a King the amount of 1000 pieces of silver and animals and land, but if you read the Bible there is no where in the Bible that states Abraham tithed anything from the 1000 pieces of silver or animals or land that he received. My question is then why would anyone want to try to give money for tithing since it appears that this is actually disobeying God's commandments written in the Bible, and you would remain under the old curses and not under Grace as written in the Bible, and it appears you would be telling God that he does not have the authority to disannull his laws, and it appears you would be denying Jesus's priesthood and sacrifice of himself for us as the ultimate sacrifice only needed once and once only, so why would anyone what to do this ? Yes, give offerings to support your church, give 10% or 1%, or 50% or whatever, but the money is a Free Will offering and not a tithe.

Curse? RUN from that abusive "church"

The curse is biblical. It's spelled out in Deuteronomy 28. Get mad at the church all you want or you can get mad at God's word. Pick a lane.

Mark Smith I tithe on my gross income, too..

Yes its true, I do.too, and he somehow even if it doesnt calculate on paper ends meet.. You trusted him the way i see it its Gods money only on loan to. Me anyway

I feel bad for your church then.

MI too

The widow's mite was extortion by the Pharisees and Jesus was not commending it. He also approved title when he mentioned those who tithed the herbs in their gardens. Jesus said they ought to have done that but there were other matters that deserved their attention first- justice, mercy and faithfulness.

@@eileenblowers5474 show me the verses

Leviticus 27:30 - And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the Lord’s: it is holy unto the Lord.

You sound bitter and angry.

Keith Ashford Agreed. You donate a piano and a drum kit, equating to like 3000.00, I think that covers your tithe.

Kelly Pagano in the word, during their time, people donated animals and crops to the storehouse. The church I go to considers itself the storehouse, so it would make sense that if what you give is your tithe, that’s what it is. It should benefit the church and man in some way, but I think this qualifies (kind of hard to play music for worship without instruments huh?).

Soljarag5 I am not a religious person either. I just believe that Jesus Christ is Lord ☺

Tithe to a charity instead

@@TheRybka30 You are entitled to your opinion.

@@wxxr9095 Then youd be disobeying the Bible

I was replying to Soljarag5

I know that's just a joke, but that isn't a voluntary contribution.

@@ericdaniel323 Tithe really means tax, like in the old priesthood church, which was also government. The church doesn't act like a storehouse to prepare for 7 years depression for food to be stored for people to buy from the storehouse. This is the storehouse the Bible is talking about. When I go to church, I am not putting grain in the church for example. When a church member's house burns down, the pastor may ask for canned food for the member even though the church is the storehouse. So many lies in church.

So you have a choice? NOT

@@eileenblowers5474 Technically a tithe for a faithful Christian isn't voluntary either.

It's it not of everything how is that possible tithes is not just money OK.....

It did not say everything

And what is your income? It's the best of your fruits of labor. "Tithe" literally translated to tenth.

If you have one dollar you can tithe ten cents.

ChubbyBlumpkinz he’s dumb.

Dave has a sense of humor :) He's just being funny~ it makes me laugh every time!

Once upon a time when someone disagreed with church leadership, they would be cut in half, drowned, or tied up and burned to help convinced them. I'm glad I have the right to disagree.

MiamiPush2theLimit If you think he is dumb then get off of his channel, and stop listening.

When you are as successful and your method works as well as Dave', then disagree!

I thought i heard him.say net as gross is before tax etc taken out before we get net then first of n fruits bless you

Mike EL it’s tithing from increase. Or in other words abundance. Give more as you are able. Give less if you are less able. It technically doesn’t have to be money but money makes the most sense in today’s world. If your church makes you give 10% or your gross income, you need a new church. Give as you are able and as you see fit. Giving is good. As you give, so shall you receive. But giving makes you feel good. Makes you feel even better when you can see the faces of people you help. I don’t buy the argument that you’re just giving god back his own money. I didn’t see god hauling those boxes for his paycheck.

Israel was told to tithe the increase. That is after cost of production, or net. Employees often do not understand this. Self employed MUST comprehend this or disaster awaits.

If a farmer, retailer, manufacturer or contractor gives 10% there is nothing left because they operate on less that a 10% margin.

Wrong. GO back and study some more. Whether we prosper or not, we must give to God what is God's. Prosperity is completely subjective. IF you can trust God with your heart, your home, you health and your family, don't you think we can trust Him with our finances?

The NT says everything belongs to God. Why are you thinking it belongs to you?

Hi Michelle, tithe what you are able to with gladness in your heart and don't worry about the % or all that "taxable" nonsense, simply keep God in your heart and you'll be tithing the "right" amount =)

Tithe is on gross. God before taxes.

Amen

Web Gem that only works if your only objective is to be greedy and hoard money. But givers are happier people.

I'm greedy and hoarding money. I work hard for my money and just don't give it away. It is what it is.

So do you thither? At all

It must be fun being your own god. Until it isn't. God owns it all, some of us just take longer coming to terms with that fact. I am finally reading a chapter of Proverbs each day and that is helping my deprogramming

Jane Johnson my husband and I do.

Jane Johnson my understanding is that, according to Malachi, we donate 10% to God at all stages. I have found that even when financially stressed and in debt, God makes a way.

Dave says to tithe even when you are paying off debt or only making a small income. He says it's important to give even when it's hard or only a little. Dave Ramsey's daughter Rachel Cruze made a video called "Should You Give While Getting Out of Debt?" a few years back that is on youtube and is only two minutes~ I would recommend watching it! God bless!

Jane Johnson he says "yes"

I'm glad that God made a way for you. Unfortunately I know many tithers where God didn't make a way, and they couldn't afford to tithe their money. Giving is important, but you have to take care of yourself first.

Rebecca Sankey Holy Miley. Catholics don't tithe? I'm a Christian so I wouldn't know really what y'all believe. But Man y'all should be millionaires. Tithes is everywhere in the bible.

Sophisticated Swanson It might be everywhere in the Bible but we've never been asked to tithe. Just because I'm Catholic doesn't mean I am not a Christian. Just just like all branches of Christianity, Christ is the centre of our religion. I am nowhere near a millionaire. I live in Dublin, Ireland, one of the most expensive cities in the world! I am extremely good with money but if I was asked to tithe I would have no choice but to refuse. I have three young children and one small income of 29k a year. I support 5people on 500 a week. Tithing 10% simply isn't an option.

You are to give with your heart which means give it without worry or regret. I can say from experience, when you give 10%, God will bless you 10 times over when you least expect it.

Hang on. I will get you who do tithe a link to Catholic Answers answer on the subject. Short answer: No, Catholics are not required to tithe, any more than they are required to eat a kosher diet. Long answer: God gives us everything and it all belongs to Him. While there is no requirement to tithe, there is a precept to support the Church.

As I said in my comment. We give an offering every week and money in the basket. I had never even heard of it untill Dave Ramsey/budgeting videos etc. I am very aware of God's blessings, I see them everyday in the eyes of my wonderful children and the food on my table. We do give to the church but not 10%. Let's not argue in comments section of a KZfaq video. Let's agree to disagree. The one thing that brings us together is God. I am pretty sure he wouldn't want us to argue!

Dave freely admits that it's an evangelical and orthodox Jew thing. It's like term life insurance, not a part of the baby steps, but considered a necessity.

0-7. Basically, EVERYWHERE.

I should add while Dave always encourages generosity, he doesn't encourage stupidity. No borrowing for anything, not to retire the church mortgage, not for missionaries, not for anything. Also, if your church or denomination does not teach tithing as a requirement or a principle (mine does not), this is one of those few cases where Dave lets you wander off on your own.

Dave says to tithe even when you are paying off debt or only making a small income. He says it's important to give even when it's hard or only a little. Dave Ramsey's daughter Rachel Cruze made a video called "Should You Give While Getting Out of Debt?" a few years back that is on youtube and is only two minutes~ I would recommend watching it! God bless!

@@Liveloud4Him False doctrine in this video it seems to me about tithing of money to indoctrinate people into giving 10% of their money because, 1. The Bible tells us that God commanded that only plants and animals be given for tithing, 2. In the Bible we can read that God commanded that if a person had money when they were at the place to tithe that they were to take the money and buy what their soul longeth to eat and bring those edible things only for tithing and not to give money for tithing, 3. To give money for tithing is actually the breaking of God's laws and commandments that were given in the Bible as mentioned beforehand, 4. To continue to follow the old laws of the Bible then, in the new testament it tells us that you then remain under the old curse and are not under the Grace of Jesus, 5. In Hebrews 7 the Bible tells us that the old laws were weak and unprofitable for us and that the laws were disannulled and the priesthood was changed through Jesus because the priests had to offer up sacrifices daily but Jesus only needed to offer himself up only once for us, 6. If ministers tell people we are still under the old laws of giving, then why do they not preach all the laws that were commanded for giving such as redeeming your property, and paying money for your sin offering, and paying a certain amount of money every year according to your age and gender, etc. ? 7. The Bible tells us we are to give Free Will offerings now, 8. The word tithe means basically 10% of something, but in the Bible tithing was done regarding several different things or different years so the giving of tithes was much more then 10% of the things, 9. Tithing in the Bible was only done a few certain times of the year, not every week !, 10. Abraham tithed to Melchizedek from the spoils of war and not from any wages earned, further if you read elsewhere in the Bible we can read that Abraham had received from a King the amount of 1000 pieces of silver and animals and land, but if you read the Bible there is no where in the Bible that states Abraham tithed anything from the 1000 pieces of silver or animals or land that he received. My question is then why would anyone want to try to give money for tithing since it appears that this is actually disobeying God's commandments written in the Bible, and you would remain under the old curses and not under Grace as written in the Bible, and it appears you would be telling God that he does not have the authority to disannull his laws, and it appears you would be denying Jesus's priesthood and sacrifice of himself for us as the ultimate sacrifice only needed once and once only, so why would anyone what to do this ? Yes, give offerings to support your church, give 10% or 1%, or 50% or whatever, but the money is a Free Will offering and not a tithe.

TheMightyWill great comparison! My wedding was lovely and on a shoestring budget.

This makes no sense, the two are completely unrelated and thus is a horrible example.

Do you love your wife, Andrew? Because it makes perfect sense.

You think you only give 16% when you get married? Seriously you have no concept of financial, emotional and spiritual giving to the marital union!

2 months income is from DeBeers advertising...the diamond cartel.

Read the bible carefully dear sister. In Malachi chapter 3 God is talking to the Priests. The instruction 'bring all the tithes to the storehouse' and the accusation that '. ..yet you have robbed Me in tithes and offerings' was, with due respect, not directed to the children of Israel but was directed to the Priests. The understanding is that the Priests were no longer bringing the tithes to the storehouse but they were eating all the tithes given by the people yet the widows, the orphans and the poor were supposed to benefit from the tithes hence God was angry with the Priests. It is also very clear that the Priests were eating the meat that they were supposed to offer to God. Remember that in every offering that was made the Lord specifically stated which part of the meat/offering the Priests were entitled to then the rest was the Lord's. I am sure that you are not a Levitical Priest since that Priesthood ended at the arrival of the New Testament. Why then bother about a scripture that is not directed to you. Again remember that Malachi is an Old Testament scripture. The bible puts it clear that if you obey any of the Commandments of the Old Covenant then you are bound to obey all of them. You can't pick and choose. After obeying them you are cut off from Christ! (Galatians 5: 3-10). Please stop tithing. It's not for you. Yes giving you can. In short I am troubled that a scripture directed to Priests to stop thieving is twisted by the very Priests to appear like it refers to us so that they continue to do the very thing they were rebuked by the Lord for: stealing all the tithes and not giving the poor.

Yup. Context matters. Doubky so in the Bible

@@npzwane9331 are we not a royal priesthood? Pick a lane.

@@SCRaetzBy Priest I mean the Levitical Priesthood. I did indicate in my comment that I am referring to Levitical Priests. In answer to your question yes I am of the Heavenly Priesthood but not of the Levitical Priesthood. Therefore that scripture is directed to the Levitical Priests. Even supposing we are Priests, then who is that Priest who is entitled to collect tithes from the other Priests? Remember Jesus said we are all brothers meaning we are all equal. If one Priest collect tithes from me, a Priest in my own capacity, then I have to collect tithes from that Priest since he has no greater right than me in as far as doing the duties of the Priesthood is concerned

The church can mean alot of things, it's also in the NT

You're actually mistaken. Tithing was done hundreds of years before the law, starting with Abraham.

@@SCRaetz If that was tithing--can you provide a source? I am interested. A tithe meant a tenth and was for the Levites

lots of typos. Lol talk-to-text is very rarely a good thing. My point being is that churches and other pastors speak about giving to the church as a tithe and that's not what a tithe is. Very often people not knowing the difference will just believe their pastors and give money to the church as if it was a Biblical mandate but it's not in fact you should be wary of any church that would ask for money that is extra biblical. Isn't that being a good Steward Mr Ramsey?

My brother, it is not about giving to the church who is richer than you etc, blah blah. You are giving your money to God, the ones who gives it to you in the first place.

+Daviel James if your church has mass on Sunday then definitely don't give your money there. god said Saturday is Holly not Sunday and there will be no blessings on Sunday.

I completely agree, that's why I am a Seventh-day Adventist.

The caller was already giving his time, talent, and treasures to his church. He had a specific question about the time vs $. The church doesn't make any money. They receive 100% of their money from those that attend and believe that the message of the gospel is worth spreading. Good churches also provide other community services such as trash clean-up, giving to the needy, international service work, college scholarships, hospitals etc. You can get the exact same services from a church whether or not you give money. This is why it's not taxed. The reason charities are tax deductible is that the founders of our country believed in encouraging giving and helping others. PS God loves you and will forgive you of your sin if you will turn to him. He doesn't want your money, he wants your heart. When you give him your heart and decide to follow Him, giving money becomes a natural outpouring of gratitude for the blessings (spiritual and physical) that he freely gives you.

With charity comes deception, its a loop hole for the rich they can make a charity, stash their money in it and still do all kinds of stuff, like funding campaigns were Traditional Pacs only allow you to contribute a set amount, but a charity is tax free like you said and has the ability to contribute infinite amounts. I disagree with your founding fathers belief, they were the .5% of the top 1% , The U.S constitution was only written because the Articles of Confederation did not play well for the founding fathers it created a weak government, and with weakness meant as a society we could switch our currency in a blink of an eye and the wealthy wouldn't be wealthy anymore. The founding fathers cared only about keeping their social and economic status, if you look at the U.S constitution specifically about what congress can and can not do, (Analogy about how much power they have vs the people or us) we are fed crumbs while congress eats the entire pizza. The only reason we have rights is because the Anti- Federalists wanted a set list of rights before they agreed to sign the the U.S Constitution , without that the Founding Fathers could careless what we got. In reality they did not trust us, as you can see our society is a mess and with good reason that they didn't.

@ACSHistorian False doctrine in this video it seems to me about tithing of money to indoctrinate people into giving 10% of their money because, 1. The Bible tells us that God commanded that only plants and animals be given for tithing, 2. In the Bible we can read that God commanded that if a person had money when they were at the place to tithe that they were to take the money and buy what their soul longeth to eat and bring those edible things only for tithing and not to give money for tithing, 3. To give money for tithing is actually the breaking of God's laws and commandments that were given in the Bible as mentioned beforehand, 4. To continue to follow the old laws of the Bible then, in the new testament it tells us that you then remain under the old curse and are not under the Grace of Jesus, 5. In Hebrews 7 the Bible tells us that the old laws were weak and unprofitable for us and that the laws were disannulled and the priesthood was changed through Jesus because the priests had to offer up sacrifices daily but Jesus only needed to offer himself up only once for us, 6. If ministers tell people we are still under the old laws of giving, then why do they not preach all the laws that were commanded for giving such as redeeming your property, and paying money for your sin offering, and paying a certain amount of money every year according to your age and gender, etc. ? 7. The Bible tells us we are to give Free Will offerings now, 8. The word tithe means basically 10% of something, but in the Bible tithing was done regarding several different things or different years so the giving of tithes was much more then 10% of the things, 9. Tithing in the Bible was only done a few certain times of the year, not every week !, 10. Abraham tithed to Melchizedek from the spoils of war and not from any wages earned, further if you read elsewhere in the Bible we can read that Abraham had received from a King the amount of 1000 pieces of silver and animals and land, but if you read the Bible there is no where in the Bible that states Abraham tithed anything from the 1000 pieces of silver or animals or land that he received. My question is then why would anyone want to try to give money for tithing since it appears that this is actually disobeying God's commandments written in the Bible, and you would remain under the old curses and not under Grace as written in the Bible, and it appears you would be telling God that he does not have the authority to disannull his laws, and it appears you would be denying Jesus's priesthood and sacrifice of himself for us as the ultimate sacrifice only needed once and once only, so why would anyone what to do this ? Yes, give offerings to support your church, give 10% or 1%, or 50% or whatever, but the money is a Free Will offering and not a tithe.

scorpiomaj2 but as an act of obedience where commanded to tithe.

I've found online certain parts of the bible where people have promised to give 1 of 10, but nothing specific from Jesus or said to have been from Jesus, can you suggest a section? (The reason I ask is not to be argumentative, but to stay true to the word, some folks think confessing to priest in a booth is part of God's plan, but the priest can't forgive you - not with true authority.)

Yes it's in the Bible.

LadyofValor I should say tithing with money is not Biblical.

To each it's own; All I know that is I'm thankful to sow the Tithe.

@@arienfox False doctrine in this video it seems to me about tithing of money to indoctrinate people into giving 10% of their money because, 1. The Bible tells us that God commanded that only plants and animals be given for tithing, 2. In the Bible we can read that God commanded that if a person had money when they were at the place to tithe that they were to take the money and buy what their soul longeth to eat and bring those edible things only for tithing and not to give money for tithing, 3. To give money for tithing is actually the breaking of God's laws and commandments that were given in the Bible as mentioned beforehand, 4. To continue to follow the old laws of the Bible then, in the new testament it tells us that you then remain under the old curse and are not under the Grace of Jesus, 5. In Hebrews 7 the Bible tells us that the old laws were weak and unprofitable for us and that the laws were disannulled and the priesthood was changed through Jesus because the priests had to offer up sacrifices daily but Jesus only needed to offer himself up only once for us, 6. If ministers tell people we are still under the old laws of giving, then why do they not preach all the laws that were commanded for giving such as redeeming your property, and paying money for your sin offering, and paying a certain amount of money every year according to your age and gender, etc. ? 7. The Bible tells us we are to give Free Will offerings now, 8. The word tithe means basically 10% of something, but in the Bible tithing was done regarding several different things or different years so the giving of tithes was much more then 10% of the things, 9. Tithing in the Bible was only done a few certain times of the year, not every week !, 10. Abraham tithed to Melchizedek from the spoils of war and not from any wages earned, further if you read elsewhere in the Bible we can read that Abraham had received from a King the amount of 1000 pieces of silver and animals and land, but if you read the Bible there is no where in the Bible that states Abraham tithed anything from the 1000 pieces of silver or animals or land that he received. My question is then why would anyone want to try to give money for tithing since it appears that this is actually disobeying God's commandments written in the Bible, and you would remain under the old curses and not under Grace as written in the Bible, and it appears you would be telling God that he does not have the authority to disannull his laws, and it appears you would be denying Jesus's priesthood and sacrifice of himself for us as the ultimate sacrifice only needed once and once only, so why would anyone what to do this ? Yes, give offerings to support your church, give 10% or 1%, or 50% or whatever, but the money is a Free Will offering and not a tithe.