Can "New" Zen 2 Beat Intel? AMD Ryzen 7 5700U Review
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00:00 - Intro, Specs and Test Setup
04:00 - Productivity Benchmarks
11:24 - Head to Head Comparisons
13:25 - iGPU Gaming Benchmarks
15:31 - Final Thoughts
Can "New" Zen 2 Beat Intel? - AMD Ryzen 7 5700U Review
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@_HanlonsRazor 2 жыл бұрын
Best. Thumbnail. Ever.
@257ersSupport 2 жыл бұрын
I was actually laughing intensly
@AdiSidiq 2 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@jrsomethingnumbers9704 2 жыл бұрын
I wish the ol' stache was photoshopped in xD
@johnashby9660 2 жыл бұрын
Omg I spit out my coffee when I saw it.
@wholesomegamer 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, just came for the thumbnail and the comments on it - was not dissapointed!
@NeXMaX 2 жыл бұрын
Gonna call it "The 4800U except you can actually find one"
@NeblogaiLT 2 жыл бұрын
And with better battery life, which was not tested here.
@davidlazarus67 2 жыл бұрын
You can if you can afford “one million dollars”
@sworddice 2 жыл бұрын
4800 U can't actually find one
@amashaziz2212 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidlazarus67 ??
@davidlazarus67 2 жыл бұрын
@@amashaziz2212 The thumbnail was dressed like Dr Evil.
@bunsenhoneydew6551 2 жыл бұрын
I ended up with a 5700 laptop, because at the time (1 month ago) 5800s were as rare as hens teeth - and I couldn't wait for stock. Regardless of zen 2 vs zen 3 - the 15W performance is very impressive. I'm running a couple of VMs - and the fan rarely kicks in.
@RobBCactive 2 жыл бұрын
I got one too, I would have been happy with a 4000 series, but 5700G was what was on offer
@Dacialastun 2 жыл бұрын
Same here, got a Dell Inspiron with a 5700U inside and can’t believe how quiet the thing is.
@brawlphysics 2 жыл бұрын
same scenario with me
@ambitious6963 2 жыл бұрын
same, got an Hp pavilion 15 with the 5700u, fan only kicks in when doing power intensive tasks on performance mode
@SirWolf2018 2 жыл бұрын
Same problem here I'm going to have: every non-gaming laptop I see has 5700U, and everything that includes 5800U is a gamer laptop, and 5600U is like non-existent. :( I'm so disappointed in laptops right now, and I so hate having to buy Zen 2 because there's nothing else available. I've been a fan of AMD since Zen 3, and I'm a fan of large CPU caches, and 5700U has only half the amount of what 5800U does. :( Way to step back in time like a remastered 4700U with a confusing new name.
@mix3k818 2 жыл бұрын
I think AMD just found their bread and butter: releasing new Zen architecture while also having older gen Ryzen procressors to fall back on for any value propositions.
@juanignacioaschura9437 2 жыл бұрын
That was the exact reasoning they even dared to communicate during the release of the 5000 series Ryzens.
@bsh7390 2 жыл бұрын
intel did that : fuck intel what a scammer naming scheme amd did that : hurray amd is our savior thanks amd
@HanSolo__ 2 жыл бұрын
@@bsh7390 Nobody "hurrays". If I want 4000 I buy 4000. If they bring 4000 to the market when I won't go under 5000 then can fcuk themselves. Oh is it priced like a legit 5000 series? They can now fcuck themselves twice as hard. If 35% of their potential customers said this by not buying anything, they may understand this in a year or so. They already cashed double during pandemics, right?
@nicholasvinen 2 жыл бұрын
@@bsh7390 I don't like it when anyone does it, but they kind of need to because consumers are a bit dumb on average. They don't want to buy the 4000 series when the 5000 series is available, even if the 4000 series parts are still good. For every person like us they annoy they probably gain 100 sales. So they'd be stupid not to do it.
@RobBCactive 2 жыл бұрын
@@bsh7390 the problem is when companies do what Nvidia did, release parts with the same model number from different generations claiming equivalent performance. Then they arbitrarily dropped support for one variant claiming it was Windows 8 only. People can protest but when the market doesn't care, we need to NOT make assumptions based on a marketing number and look at model specifics. Since this video using 8 Zen2 in low power configs has occurred in new designs, the compact cores have some advantages. Having an 5700u the performance still impresses in a cool running unit with good battery life. It really doesn't matter which core design does it.
@stefanmisch5272 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't they specifically skip the 4000 series on desktop just to avoid the Zen generation confusion? 🙄
@ClayWheeler 2 жыл бұрын
No? I've seen Ryzen 4750G in person. And yes, it is a Desktop CPU
@-........ 2 жыл бұрын
@@ClayWheeler that's oem only. they skipped the 4000 series for enthusiast/diy
@ClayWheeler 2 жыл бұрын
@@-........ No? You can buy Ryzen 4750G on its own. At least that's what happen here in South East Asia region. No need to buy whole PC
@ugrasergun 2 жыл бұрын
@@ClayWheeler By AMD naming they're APU's not CPU
@ClayWheeler 2 жыл бұрын
@@ugrasergun Nah you're just plain wrong. And I'm not gonna argue with that. 4750G is marketed as CPU in online marketplace. Even if it is indeed an APU. For example, everyone is calling Ryzen 5900HS as a CPU, despite it has APU inside. And yet, in reality, it is often paired with Discrete GPU like RTX 3000 Mobile series
@conza1989 2 жыл бұрын
Oh to improve the thumbnail, make Tim bald and caption it "Frickin laser beams attached to their heads!"
@moldyshishkabob 2 жыл бұрын
If that's Ryzen 6000's stock cooler, I'm sold already
@kidmjr 2 жыл бұрын
As a student, I got 5500U for 480 euros w/16gb ram and 500gb nvme ssd storage. Bang for buck product.
@wxyzz 2 жыл бұрын
Which one
@kidmjr 2 жыл бұрын
@@wxyzz hp 15s-eq2152ng. I upgraded the RAM and NVME on my own, but the seller later had this config in stock for 499.
@kidmjr 2 жыл бұрын
@@amystery5238 @A Mystery I have been using HP laptops for over 10 years. I started with the Pavilion series, had HP compaq's, later the envy series and elitebook. They definitely had a dip in form in the mid 2010s but have bounced back in the past two years. The one I bought has plastic chassis but solid construction. The screen is 250 nits but is thin edge IPS, and I am pleasantly surprised by it. I ran it full tilt and it doesn't go above 60'C since the Ryzen cpu's are quite efficient. The battery is but on the shorter side, 42 Wh, but manageable. I can push it to 6ish hours with mixed usage. The keyboard is alright and useable. The trackpad is bit small but very responsive, haven't had issues with it.
@kidmjr 2 жыл бұрын
@@amystery5238 I took a gamble on this model and also because the retailer had generous return policy. This laptop has another model number on hp's website. Apparently, hp is sharing the core among many laptops, the difference is the chassis and build quality. I am satisfied with my purchase and got what I was looking for as my preference is usually function over form.
@kidmjr 2 жыл бұрын
@@amystery5238 All the best.
@UnityGuy 2 жыл бұрын
I just thought of my 5500u as a last gen processor but getting a 6 core $400 laptop because of that was pretty fantastic.
@suppar8066 2 жыл бұрын
Insane deal!
@moldyshishkabob 2 жыл бұрын
Jealous of that absolute steal
@mohit9206 2 жыл бұрын
I too have a 5500U but its paired with Nvidia 1650 graphics so it can run even AAA games fairly well without the CPU getting too hot like other gaming laptops due to low power cpu
@jesusbarrera6916 2 жыл бұрын
A 5500U is basically a 4600U.... Which is still a great CPU
@siyzerix 2 жыл бұрын
@@mohit9206 Bruh, you haven't used gaming laptops properly then, have you.
@P4NCH1 2 жыл бұрын
Man, been seeing it for some time now, but I have to drop it in a comment: Really love the testing suite you use. It gives a perspective for almost all use cases!
@Brandon-oc8lr 2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate that you guys do scientific applications like matlab and excel, its really hard to find on hardware reviews.
@lmchua8644 2 жыл бұрын
5600u vs 5700u would be interesting, cache vs core tim edition?
@Bobstone2131 2 жыл бұрын
I happen to have both the old 4500U and "newer" 5700U in Lenovo laptops. Both are great low cost moderate performance thin and lights. Picked up both for about $450usd each and my kids use them for school.
@themikster4858 2 жыл бұрын
Your joking. Bruh my mom bought an Intel machine which has a 1035G1 and only a 720p screen for $800US. I was in pain when I heard the price
@justacomment1657 2 жыл бұрын
Calling a 5700u moderate performance.... Seriously that thing is multitasking monster...
@s2k376 2 жыл бұрын
"Moderate" lol
@collier6725 2 жыл бұрын
damn man 5700u is an absolute banger
@ncaps1822 2 жыл бұрын
450 bucks for a 5700u? that is a steal. or you must be kidding?
@michaelpascual2731 2 жыл бұрын
I don't care about these new CPUs, that said I clicked on this video because of the thumbnail, awesome and funny stuff,,keep it up and peace.
@user-wq9mw2xz3j 2 жыл бұрын
same, sadly clickbait, didn't see his mutated head
@chuuni6924 2 жыл бұрын
>"I clicked on the video just because of the thumbnail, not because I really care." How does it feel to be the cancer that's feeding the algorithm?
@michaelpascual2731 2 жыл бұрын
@@chuuni6924 If it helps my buds from down under so be it.
@Wineblood 2 жыл бұрын
Wait, $900 is midrange for a laptop? Also this feels like half a review without the zen3 5600U data.
@emanueledelmonte803 2 жыл бұрын
Three years ago I paid €500 for a Huawei Matebook D with a Zen 5 2500U. These "new" laptop prices are pure madness
@Skylancer727 2 жыл бұрын
Usually for $900 you're lucky to get a discrete GPU. So yes I would say low to midrange. Laptops are always more expensive than a do it yourself desktop. But hey you're paying for the portability.
@Skylancer727 2 жыл бұрын
@@cool_bug_facts yeah right now but normally no. Normally the deal is far worse. But still even now, you're better off paying for a more expensive GPU as at least it can be upgraded. With a laptop what you got is all you get. Only exception being that one by Framework. Remember that GPU still has value when you get rid of it so it can subsidize the cost of the new one a bit. It's not as much like old consoles where you lose all your old games when you move on.
@thareqprimaharianto8725 2 жыл бұрын
In my country, gaming laptops are still more expensive than consumer laptops (notebook, ultrabook, convertible), but gaming laptops' prices are relatively stagnant and even going down for a few varieties meanwhile consumer laptops' prices are going higher than last year thus make them worth less than gaming laptops. My point is most people still couldn't afford a gaming laptop while the laptop they could afford has even less worth day by day.
@SaturnusDK 2 жыл бұрын
This "mid-range" laptop has an OLED display though.
@OxygenDiffusion 2 жыл бұрын
I think they just should have name it the 4900U or 4850u to name it similar to the newer gen is just scummy.
@RobBCactive 2 жыл бұрын
But OEMs want to sell products, once 5000 launched 4000 was dead as a desirable product.
@Thehighschoolscientistforever 2 жыл бұрын
Wow this video is all i needed to make my decisions, ig the only way you guys can improve your videos is by adding even more applications tests, other than that this video is stacked
@theexmann 2 жыл бұрын
Good informative video once again. I wonder if them continuing to use their 7nm allocation for repurposing Zen 2 chips is because AMD is moving on to 6 and 5 nm nodes for 2022. BTW, do you think AMD will finally put their I/O chip on 7nm for 2022 with TSMC or will they continue making them with the larger nodes at GF? Maybe they'll split them? Laptop I/O chips at TSMC and desktop I/O chips at GF?
@sinnerjohnny 2 жыл бұрын
Hey! I just bought the MSI Modern 15 with the 5700u. Awesome to see you guys upload a video on it
@thamjeedmohaimeen6330 2 жыл бұрын
How is the performance bro? battery life.. display and overall?
@sinnerjohnny 2 жыл бұрын
@@thamjeedmohaimeen6330 I'd say that the battery life is pretty okay. I mainly use it for school and it lasts about 5-6 hours on heavy usage(Google meet on the foreground + discord and Spotify on the background). I normally have about 8 hours of school so I need to charge it before the last 2 periods. Performance is top notch. I play valorant with my friends and the average fps is right around 90-110(I also use a laptop cooler). Display has been pretty great so far. It has good sunlight legibility and the colors look pretty good too. I didn't have too much backlight bleed on my unit and the contrast was awesome for watching movies. The modern 15 has a 39whr and a 52whr variant, don't buy the 39whr variant. And tbh, the speakers aren't anything special. In my experience, they were pretty quiet when I was using them in a semi-loud environment, I didn't notice this very much because I always use headphones but your mileage may vary. The build quality is extremely good too, I didn't notice any flex on the laptop. Hmu if you want to know anything else
@OrkDiktator 2 жыл бұрын
Lisa Su and Pat Gelsinger have Dinner in a Restaurant Gelsinger: *Puts a beautiful little box onto the table* Su: "For me?" Gelsinger: "Open It" Su: *Opens the case. An I7 1165G7 is inside* Gelsinger: "Try to beat it" Su: "Uh, what a surprise. I'm totally unprepared for a present like this" Su: *Starts digging in her handbag* Su: *She gets a fluffy and dusty Ryzen 7 4800U out of her purse, blows and wipes it clean.* Su: "I'm sorry. That 18 months old last-gen piece is the only I have at the moment for you in return. Let me rebrand it for you" Gelsinger: *Jumps up from the chair and runs out of the restaurant crying*
@MrBombzzz 2 жыл бұрын
I'm hooked, can't wait for episode 2.
@fhs7838 2 жыл бұрын
There's also new zen1 CPUs now. The "Dali" Athlon 3150U. Released in 2020
@PainterVierax 2 жыл бұрын
They really trashed the Athlon trademark to the point where they don't even use Sempron for lower end products.
@gerardfraser 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing,good information for all.
@raven4k998 2 жыл бұрын
just one question who makes and sells a 5800u laptop? they don't as far as I can see they skip over it to the h series apu's
@ramseychong8787 2 жыл бұрын
Releasing old hardware as "New" is the most 14nm thing I have ever seen! 😏
@syncmonism 2 жыл бұрын
It's the system makers who pressure AMD to do it, especially with these CPUs I think. They want a new number every year, and it's quite dumb. AMD doesn't usually re-brand its CPUs in such a confusing or unnecessary way, certainly not for desktop.
@ramseychong8787 2 жыл бұрын
@@syncmonism I'm not sure which system manufacturer pressured Intel to release all those 14nm++++++++++++ 😏
@whiffa5438 2 жыл бұрын
@@ramseychong8787 when you think about it, it's real impressive that they were able to stay competitive for so long against ryzen while using the "same" 6 year old skylake node and I'm sure they would've stagnated if ryzen hadn't shown up, so let's hope that intel doesn't fall too far behind to keep AMD from slackin off :)
@ramseychong8787 2 жыл бұрын
@@whiffa5438 well that "staying competitive on that node for too long has cost team blue so much that they lost the ground to AMD. Its like in racing, if you hang on for too long on the soft tyres and don’t pit on time, you will lose time + lose the race. Tbh Intel got greedy and paid the price. WELL DESERVED defeat.
@whiffa5438 2 жыл бұрын
@@ramseychong8787 hey, they might've lost the last few generational battles and even some more to come. but as long as they get back on their feet so there's competition in the cpu market, I'm fine with it
@nagak112 2 жыл бұрын
Thumbnail Gold medal. Bravo!
@Pqoq 2 жыл бұрын
Bought the 5700u laptop (ASUS TM420UA) on early June this year. Already knew that it was not a zen 3 long before May, but could not find any zen 3 untill August (5600u, even 5800u hasnt arrived to this date). I found out that sometimes it teared the audio and frame rates. Maybe it is just the unit I purchased and not all units, but overall I like it, too bad it wasnt 5800u which is still on my top list.
@RobBCactive 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 5700U laptop, I obtained it on a deal in June and in use it's hard to believe the CPU is just 15W. Somewhere I read that they could produce the 5700U in final form to OEMs before the Zen3 parts were available, so whether they really use 7nm wafers for these rather than Zen3 is less clear. Thus OEMs were guaranteed 5x00 products, far more marketable sooner than if they had been purer. This is NOT the same as using the same model number for 2 supposedly equally performant products based on old/new designs or cost paring post reviews
@myusrn 2 жыл бұрын
How come amd apu based systems do not support tb4/usb4 ports?
@lostMAYHEM Жыл бұрын
Can i use mine as a second computer for streaming games at 1080 or is it too weak?
@EscapeVelo 2 жыл бұрын
Im excited for the Rhembrandt 6800h with 12 compute units of RDNA 2. Looking to get a thin & light ultrabook.
@anirbansarkar6115 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, min-tim-me! I feel so "refreshed" seeing you. I'll see myself out.
@0b1ivion 2 жыл бұрын
Lisa Su: Wanna see a magic trick? Randy Pitchford: Hey! That's my line!
@DimitriMoreira 2 жыл бұрын
So what about battery life on this notebook?
@ThisRandomUsername 2 жыл бұрын
I was confused why they'd go about this, but it turns out the die size of the Zen3 APU is about 12% bigger than the Zen2 APU. That kind of makes sense if you want to maximise market share and fulfill orders if you can get 10% more dies out of the same wafer.
@iikatinggangsengii2471 2 жыл бұрын
hm
@tmkpgameplay4525 Жыл бұрын
Hello, may I ask what is much better, the i5 11400h or the ryzen 7 5700u. With 3050ti graphics and just 8gb memory. Thanks
@marekenzenbach2371 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see similar reviews with the ryzen 5500u and 5600u If you get the chance to get them
@harrisdizdarevic5797 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your help
@DJGurth 2 жыл бұрын
Have you altered your sound level? Your voice seems to have a lot of base in it recently?
@eonizen 2 жыл бұрын
Got the 5700U about a month or two ago from Lenovo with their Ideapad 3 2021. Pretty amazing little CPU for the price considering the laptop with 12GB of RAM was only €550 with taxes and shipping included.
@blackwatcha1984 2 жыл бұрын
Bro, where are you from tho...In my country, it's hella expensive😭
@eonizen 2 жыл бұрын
@@blackwatcha1984 right now it's around €175 more. You really got to wait for the right sale. No way around it.
@DaSheepKing 2 жыл бұрын
I have the exact same but I struggle to get 60 fps in Rocket League 1080p all settings low. All of my games perform horribly compared to what is shown in benchmarks from people who have the same system configuration as me. Did you do anything to the computer out of the box to make it perform like it is in this video?
@pinkipromise 2 жыл бұрын
windows 11 has 40% cpu interrupt bug
@iikatinggangsengii2471 2 жыл бұрын
65
@suyashsingh637 2 жыл бұрын
Which one to choose b/w i5 11th gen and ryzen 7 5700u ,for running Matlab and other softwares like Matlab?
@saricubra2867 2 жыл бұрын
i7-11800H, don't buy an U processor (power limited).
@rounaknandy2730 2 жыл бұрын
Hello sir, can you test hp victus? Thank you.
@Wellibob68 2 жыл бұрын
I'm rather fed up with renaming older stuff and the whole massive chip shortage. Must drive you guys nuts. Stay safe anyway.
@TwitchRadio Жыл бұрын
I enjoy the power efficiency I'm getting. Not a heavy gamer but do web development and some ui/ux modle design in react... But play green hell once in a while too.. Got mine in a lonovo ideapad 5 amd ryzen 7-5700u w/ 32GB RAM and 1tb m. 2... Gaming on battery I get 7 hr and just productivity about 10 and 1/2 hours... Not bad. Definitely a upgrade to my Samsung galaxy book s laptop... The arm chipaet isn't good for me.. Can't run python or pytorch... Anyways, thought I'd share.. Thanks for taking the time to make this video👍
@gregnapier1181 2 жыл бұрын
That thumbnail is the best thing I've seen this week!
@rgstroud 2 жыл бұрын
Still waiting for zen 3 5980HX laptop model with 3080 for you to review...
@007alztruli 2 жыл бұрын
Is AMD Ryzen 7 5700u (with AMD Radeon) with 16gb RAM suitable for 3D design softwares like Revit or 3DS Max?
@SlyNine 2 жыл бұрын
5700u is the diet coke of ZEN. Still ZEN, not quite ZEN enough.
@DaystromDataConcepts 2 жыл бұрын
Would have been interesting to see how the Intel equivalents fare on price. Often, when the performance is close for roughly equivalent laptops with Intel and AMD processors, it comes down to typical retail pricing for said machines.
@johnnybuoy9551 2 жыл бұрын
I saw 8MB Cache with Reyzon 7-5700U Processors.. In your video it mentions 12MB... Am I missing something?
@Hardwareunboxed 2 жыл бұрын
8MB L3 + 4MB L2
@themadears 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone have adobe premiere and photoshop experience with 5700u?
@themadears 2 жыл бұрын
and hows the after effect performance?
@gurjindersingh3843 2 жыл бұрын
You said PC-Mark 10 tests things like Performance on Web Browsing, app loading etc and is heavily influenced by single core performance. Does that mean the average buyer who doesn't buy laptops for gaming, video editing and other complex applications should be more concerned about the single core performance of the processor?
@m00nm00n 2 жыл бұрын
Might aswell join the gang in saying - Best frikkin thumbnail ever.
@anthonysullivan5197 Ай бұрын
I’m the proud owner of a HP with the 5700U-a 15s-eq2298AU that I bought last week during the EOFY sales and enjoy playing Hogwarts Legacy with FSR2 enabled and most other settings at their lowest.
@jpHasABadHandle 2 жыл бұрын
12:14 That unintentional rhyme :'D
@winj3r 2 жыл бұрын
In a game like civilition VI, it would be better to bench AI turn time. Instead of frame rate.
@yarusgunawan2186 2 жыл бұрын
At least 5000 series enable smt on all its model so you would know at the bottom end at least it will have 4c/8t which is the same with i5-1135G7
@carl2143 2 жыл бұрын
*Ryzen 7 5700U vs intel core i5 11th gen* I'm confused. What should I choose?
@iamgroot.1466 2 жыл бұрын
obv ryzen 7
@Mud420th 2 жыл бұрын
Gief stach please! You were our role model!
@ivolol 2 жыл бұрын
Would have loved to know how the 5600U is performing compared to this.
@tomaszwozniak2972 2 жыл бұрын
Where's the 'stache?
@syarifairlangga4608 2 жыл бұрын
All of those benchmark in real life Single Core is the most important. Most apps only optimized to use 4 cores.
@insanefanta8025 2 жыл бұрын
How to you change the TDP to 25 watts?
@dusk5927 2 жыл бұрын
Use apu tuning utility or ryzen controller
@insanefanta8025 2 жыл бұрын
@@dusk5927 is their a preset for it or do u have to do that manually
@dusk5927 2 жыл бұрын
@@insanefanta8025 manually
@valkir293 2 жыл бұрын
The thumbnail wars are strong right now
@sc687k 2 жыл бұрын
This is very interesting. I'm currently looking for a laptop for basically just the light tasks described: I have a powerful desktop already. So I'm looking for a thin -and-light, perhaps just a quad-core. I've not seen the 5400U on sale in the UK at all: it's all the 5300U, the exact equivalent situation described here.
@alexj.f.kennedy6084 2 жыл бұрын
Man now idk if I should buy a Laptop with a Ryzen 5 5500U now...but the model I found is 700€ with 16gigs of ram and 512gb ssd, and it would be for Uni if I buy it, so ig it's still a decent buy or am i wrong?
@churchseraphim1380 2 жыл бұрын
Should be fine for Uni, you're mostly gonna be using Word, Chrome, etc right? If you're going for something code heavy it might be a good idea to see if you can find a 5800U but I think you'll be just fine. It's still 6 Zen2 cores
@alexj.f.kennedy6084 2 жыл бұрын
@@churchseraphim1380 I will be studying business informatics, but I have no idea what kind of coding I will be doing. I am just not sure if my current laptop (has an i5 4200U) will hold up with all of it, plus a new one is lighter than one from 2013, so I was considering one with a Ryzen 5 5500U, since they seem reasonably priced - but even if the coding workloads are a bit heavier, it should do fine or?
@churchseraphim1380 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexj.f.kennedy6084 5500U should be able to do most coding very well. I wouldn't expect you to have a problem. Tbh I wouldn't expect you to have too many problems on your i5 either. I guess it depends on the projects but I wouldn't think a 5500U would struggle with any projects. It won't be as fast at compiling code but it'll still be fast Even for a CS student you'll likely be alright on a relatively old machine. I'd pay more attention to the keyboard and screen over the CPU. You can just leave the computer sit longer for programming but having to interact on a bad keyboard or a screen too small or bad is going to be rly uncomfortable for long periods of time
@alexj.f.kennedy6084 2 жыл бұрын
@@churchseraphim1380 In case of screen it would be an Upgrade from a 1366×786 TN Panel to a 1080p IPS screen, so i think thats okay. Can't say much about the keyboard, but i am using an Acer Aspire rn and the new one would be another Acer Apsire, so ig the keyboard would pretty much stay the same except that the new one has backlighting. I was gonna try to use my current one first and try out how it will fair with what am gonna do, I am just looking for alternative choices already in case it won't hold up well and that one came to my eye, its almost 200€ cheaper than a thinkpad but pretty much has the same specs so ye (am talking about the Acer Aspire 5 A515-45-R6JZ model) and so far my experience with acer has been decent, so would consider that. I have seen reviews of the model but with the intel config, but I think the keyboard and screen shouldnt be all to different and the reviews said that they are fine for working and dont feel awful, just that u shouldn't to color accurate video or photo editing. But I appreciate the help!
@samuelschwager 2 жыл бұрын
Someone should make a supercut where Dr. Evil Tim just says product names for an hour.
@MichaelFlatman 2 жыл бұрын
No mention of battery life.. shame I guess it's not easy to compare against different systems. But i do wonder 4800u vs 5700u batterylife, whether AMD has actually done anything.
@NeblogaiLT 2 жыл бұрын
Battery life was improved. As a general rule- it is normal for Lucienne (5500U, 5700U, etc.) laptops to show very, very good battery life, much better than laptops with 4000U series had. And for a direct comparison- Notebookcheck has a Ideapad 5 5500U review, that uses the same chassis as 4500U model (which they have also reviewed, and have in the charts)- with 5500U showing improved battery life in the same chassis.
@abaj006 2 жыл бұрын
I have tons of stuff open on my laptop at the same time, a browser with 20 tabs, word, excel and PDFs open at the same time. I think for my use case, more cores are better.
@elydiaz1031 2 жыл бұрын
And RAM.... the higher 2667 and 3200mhz ddr4 are what's keeping your unit peppy, alongside those 8C/16T. I lucked out on a 1K unit for 450$ this weekend. Just trying to upgrade ram to at least 16gb. I started looking at Ryzen 3, then Ryz 5... ended up with a 7 😆 (without knowing abt this Zen 2 n 3 business). It's my first AMD unit. *It seems Zen 3 DOES support ECC RAM and 1.35v ram.
@RdTrpBrgr 2 жыл бұрын
whoa i'm early. love the thumbnail lol
@Mandrag0ras 2 жыл бұрын
The thumbnail was HILARIOUS!
@conza1989 2 жыл бұрын
Wow and how about it mirroring the RX 480 and RX 570 in terms of similar performance? AMD, you've done it again!
@karehaqt 2 жыл бұрын
As a Civ player I care more about turn times than FPS.
@qwkimball 2 жыл бұрын
I don't play games on laptops. Out of curiosity, how long is a typical turn time for Civ on a laptop? Times on my desktop for Civ VI never go over a few seconds.
@everythingfeline7367 2 жыл бұрын
@@qwkimball I've played civ 6 anthology on my laptop with this cpu and it never went more than a few seconds. I could run the benchmark and see what it spits out
@PwnstarUK 2 жыл бұрын
Best thumbnail EVAH !!!
@n.a.1625 2 жыл бұрын
I don't care about laptops, but with that thumbnail, you totally deserved my like :D
@brendanhoffmann8402 2 жыл бұрын
I got an ASUS oem laptop with Ryzen 5 3500u a few years ago. I originally bought it because I thought it was Zen 2 but it turned out to be Zen+. I wish AMD wouldn't do that trickery with model numbers! It's a great little laptop for the price... I got it for about $440 USD early 2020. It's the budget model with 8Gb of ram (I upgraded it to 12gb), a 500gb ssd (upgraded to have a 2nd 1Tb mechanical drive) and a really crappy 720p screen! If it weren't for the screen I'd recommend it because it was so cheap. The main thing is it's compatible with windows 11!
@monkeslayer-km5ho 2 жыл бұрын
3000 series apu is zen+
@dkerr200 2 жыл бұрын
Does it feel like a big omission to anyone else when testing 15W cpu's not to include an Apple m1 processor in the mix?
@andersjjensen 2 жыл бұрын
No not at all. This is a PC related channel. Things that run x86 programs via an emulation/translation layer are not really interesting. The Apple eco system is only comparable to itself.
@dkerr200 2 жыл бұрын
@@andersjjensen this channel is definitely x86 focused but if you want a thin and light many of those apps will run everywhere. For someone like myself whose apps run across Linux, mac and windows it would be nice to see. Dave2D summed it it recently saying that if you are recommending thin and light laptops you really can’t ignore the new MacBooks.
@andersjjensen 2 жыл бұрын
@@dkerr200 I don't care if Dave2D thinks you can't ignore Apple. I certainly can. The OS is frustrating even to people used to UNIX like OSes, the price is absurd and the upgradeability/repairability is zero. Not to mention the incompatibility issues you run into unless you want to shell out for a Windows license on top of the already stupid hardware cost. For 99% of people who aren't already locked into the Apple ecosystem a Zenbook or similar is the obvious and sane choice.
@SharapovaFan 2 жыл бұрын
Smart marketing by AMD. I had no idea the 5700U was just a rebranded 4800U. I thought it was just a 5800U without hyperthreading. I'm looking at some thin and light options right now and the Asus Vivobook 15 OLED is at the top of my list cause of the OLED and is $900. But it has the 5700U. The other Lenovo Xiaoxin 15 Pro I'm looking at has the 5800U but is $1000 and has an IPS. However, it has a much larger 70 Wh battery (Vivobook 15 only has 45 Wr, but has energy efficient OLED display).
@Iowcatalyst 2 жыл бұрын
That thumbnail is so good
@SaturnusDK 2 жыл бұрын
The Zenbook is ridiculously good value. 5000 series APU, 16GB LPDDR5, 1080p OLED display with Pantone Colour Accuracy certification, decently speedy NVMe SSD, a trackpad that doesn't suck, exceptionally good battery life (especially in power save mode), and a snazzy light design. All for less than $1000 and far less than that for the lowest spec'ced models. ASUS really hit the nail with this one. I have the 5800U/512GB model, btw, and I love it to bits.
@marwanbaz5885 Жыл бұрын
How's the battery life after a year?
@SaturnusDK Жыл бұрын
@@marwanbaz5885 About 9½-10 hours of streaming
@Einuhreins 2 жыл бұрын
best thumbnail, best channel 👏👏👏
@TuskForce 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully it won't feel as long till the next gen
@NightMotorcyclist 2 жыл бұрын
So for the U models, odd numbers = Zen 2 while Even numbers = Zen 3...
@AthanImmortal 2 жыл бұрын
Best...Thumbnail... EVER.
@cecollector 2 жыл бұрын
goddammit, I just noticed the Dr Evil Photoshop on the thumbnail. :D
@vxnguyen2334 2 жыл бұрын
wow, i just readed about this, now this video :)
@WayStedYou 2 жыл бұрын
I shall call him.. Mini Tim
@sudarshanprasad9615 2 жыл бұрын
That 19 minutes is just ""beating around the bush""
@ElectroWolf_Arts Жыл бұрын
Ryzen 7 4800U is good (if not best) but, how many laptops are there holding that APU , dont get wrong im a Vega fan , i just dont like Lenovo design layout (especially the keyboard)
@ferdinandbardamu3945 2 жыл бұрын
A better question is: can the 5600u beat the 5700u when thermally constrained?
@berndkemmereit8252 2 жыл бұрын
I'm looking a Zenbook, but I noticed that in order to get 16GB, you need the I7 or AMD equivalent, you can't get 16GB with a I5 or equivalent it seems. She need's 16GB as she allways has a lot of Google Tabs open..;-)
@creakincrank2806 2 жыл бұрын
Instant like for the thumbnail!
@GG-wi7ev 2 жыл бұрын
The thumbnail made me watch this video !!!
@chillbro8811 Жыл бұрын
Can this 5700u 16gb 1tb handle 4k video editing?
@rockey4631 Жыл бұрын
Yes i am using it
@chillbro8811 Жыл бұрын
@@rockey4631 thank you for reply
@almostinfamous42 2 жыл бұрын
How did you know i was looking for a laptop with a ryzen chip?
@cspc2570 2 жыл бұрын
You've now outdone Steve's disgusted thumbnail. Bravo
@Komirowsky 2 жыл бұрын
You won with thumbnail xD
@iraklimgeladze5223 2 жыл бұрын
I think AMD should have 6 watt variant for casual users. Because we can get rid of fans, which increase serviceable for casual users
@gamtax 2 жыл бұрын
AMD does have 6W SKUs, e.g. Athlon Silver 3050e. Maybe used in Chromebooks but I'm not sure.
@iraklimgeladze5223 2 жыл бұрын
@@gamtax I mean something new. That one is 14nm and 2 cores.
@gamtax 2 жыл бұрын
@@iraklimgeladze5223 Well, it's just a year old. Still pretty new to me. If AMD has a lot of 7nm to use, maybe they will consider to make another ultra-low power SKUs.
@iraklimgeladze5223 2 жыл бұрын
@@gamtax I can't call selling old technology new one
@gamtax 2 жыл бұрын
@@iraklimgeladze5223 Suit yourself. Besides, they also released some in this year too. But the naming seems they are for embedded devices.
@EscapeVelo 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Legion 5 with Ryzen 7 4800h and Nvidia GTX 1660 Ti with 144hz IPS panel. The 4800h has only 7 Vega cus unlocked.
@AaronZakhrov 2 жыл бұрын
Still happy with my Dell G5 15 SE
@SidneyCritic 2 жыл бұрын
Got it. Odd # U is Zen2, even is Zen3.
@SaturnusDK 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. In 4000U series, odd numbers were with SMT disabled, and even numbers were with SMT enabled.
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