I'm from Scotland and you are spot on, this is another scenario where what England says goes...

I think it was more like people were worried about the scaremongering on their pensions.

So many people in the UK would be so glad not to have to support your whiney little country, good luck with those EU subsidies!

@@neilgriffiths6427 better than future of "United-England"

Don`t forget, people in Scotland lost there trust in Labour and have no faith in Tories, and had to vote SNP. But the fact remains a large amount of Scots did not even bother to vote, Because the voting was very one sided, i am a Scot and i know that as a fact.

You're definitely selling it.

i would swoon ;)

She'd runaway 😆

I laughed so much at this comment, putting it in to action in my head 😂

There are worse couches to find...

Based off what? You just gonna kerp greeting till you get the result you wanted aye?

So the Scots would throw away a multi-century old Union for a 4 decade old one over their fellow British people. That would be humiliating to Scottish people in the long term, whereas Brexit is only humiliated in the short term.

@@Johno1992 Because the arguments that were made to remain were nullified by leaving?

@@MrJuanmarin99 my point exactly. Been saying this this all along.

@@Johno1992 based on the number of Scottish people that voted to remain I’d say. If you had told Scotland that in two years we will be voting to leave the EU, and that just down to the population difference between The UK countries, then no the chances of staying in will be drastically reduced should England vote to leave, I’m sure the vote would have been much different. And before anyone comments about me being a remoaner, I was for Scotland staying part of the UK.

Nice tl;dr lol.

More accurately in 2014 - leaving the UK means you'll leave the EU; SNP - we don't care 2016 - SNP leaving the EU changes everything

London changed the rules after Scotland commitment, the rules aren't the same , if that was a commercial contract, it would be nullified in a second

@@JoaoMariaNunes don't drink before you post, nothing changed except the SNP showing "once in a generation" was a lie.

If Scotland really wanted to leave the UK and join the EU, this would take at least a decade. They could of course join the Republic of Ireland. That would give them instant membership, but may require the closing of Holyrood. Northern Ireland would inevitably follow shortly after

Divination wizard actually lol. If going by dungeons and dragons rule set

But the SNP held a referendum whilst the UK was in the EU which means that the SNP wanted to leave the UK AND EU.

It wasn't especially prescient. In the run up to the 2014 referendum, plenty of people were saying the same thing. We knew the EU referendum was coming at some point and there was half a chance the English would vote the whole UK out of the EU, given the level of anti-Europeanism that seemed to fill large sections of the UK Media. Having said that - the prevailing wisdom was that the EU referendum would result in a Remain vote but of course, the BBC and other media completely underestimated just how much the English public disliked the idea of Europe and when it came out 52/48 for Leave there was surprise even amongst some of the the Leave camp. Genie's out the bottle now. Sturgeon was right but it was an easy call.

she's definitely a witch

I mean it’s not like there were two hundred alternative possibilities.

Absolutely, anyone is allowed to voice an oppinion, and NOBODY has a right to not be offended. It's the timid, spineless cowards of this Counrty that effectuate the nanny state or more aptly a Marxist state.

Trying telling this to the SNP.

The debate is kinda over. The polls have been trending this way since before Brexit was a twitch in Farage's loins. If there was going to be any good points, it was made then. Boris' successor won't stop this.

I would never side with racist, anti-Semitic France. The government of France is beneath contempt.

@@afoley2812 France or Germany with herr Merkel and her socialist party

Be a hell of a statement to any country that wants to leave the EU. You go. You fragment. We welcome the pieces back.

@@DSVII On one side it is, but from what I know, something that truly hit "Hearts and minds" was the speech by that SNP MEP when he said "leave a light on, so we can find our way home" and all the surrounding campaign. I don't think Scottish Independence would go all that well, but I think the EU would cut them some slack to get back in even if they didn't exactly meet the criteria

@@Batmack I agree that I don't think Scottish Independence would go well, but it would definitely be a show of geopolitical strength on the part of the EU (at a time when Russia's meddling in Eastern European EU states is getting dangerous) to swiftly welcome Scotland. If the EU is smart, it will offer Scotland a preemptive promise of admittance even before Scotland votes on any independence referendum. It would anger the English Tories, I'm sure. But the Tories are only one faction in English politics and perhaps the English right is precisely who needs a public spanking right about now.

I wouldn't trust a bit any one of those two morons.

@@ems7623 correct up to u said Russia. Its UK and USA causing issues in eastern Europe . Remember nato saying we wont go east.

Does your support also extend to Catalonia?

@@ZyNeEnZyNe I'm french, and mine certainly does. One of the pillars of Europe, and even more so the EU, is self-determination. The case of Catalonia is far from being easy, but even Spain recognized this matter and the one of Scotland are separated issues, not linked to one another. I don't say I agree with that, but that's what politicians think.

@@fireprism2232 Hi, if you really believe that the EU allows 'self-determination ' you are deluded. The EU is more and more dictatorial.

@@jamesm9534 I'd say quite the contrary, it has become useless. Useless policies, useless politians. One just needs to realize that all countries around the globe give much more attention and worry much more about what the UK, France and Germany have to say, rather than the whole EU. But it's interesting to me that you have this opinion. Could I ask why ?

@@fireprism2232 The opening tenant of the European project is 'ever closer union (paraphrasing) in other words get rid of the idea of individual countries. Look at the original aims of Jean Monet (one of the founders of the European project). Then look at the structure of the EU. It has a Parliament which has little actual power. eg. Parliament can't initiate, change or repeal legislation it can only 'rubber stamp' what has been proposed by the EU commission. Is this to give the illusion of democracy? The president of the commission is elected by the 'preferred candidate' system where the commission proposes just one candidate, Parliament then votes yes or no to that one candidate. The old USSR system was the same! It's not democracy.

Issuing the couch before couching the issues!

Yeah, kinda ghetto.

£200 for a second hand sofa seems expensive.

@@JimmiAlli but you can't say his marketing wasn't brilliant

We're not allowed on KZfaq to say the problem, it's 'hate speech' and there's loads of horrible KZfaq members just reporting comments as hate and so you just don't comment.

It's not that balanced TLDR and A Different bias both have a bit of a misunderstanding regarding indy

I mean yeah, it's hard to do without censorship or propaganda.

@@elliotwilliams7421 In what way?

@@kelvinfaulkner3183 Phil continually calls indy supporters separatists. Most of this video is based on scotland copying Westminster spending habits when independent. An unbiased video would show how London has neglected scotland for centuries. TLDR and Phil come across as though they oppose indy and thee only time scotland comes into their discussions is regarding indy, brexit or pmqs. English politics is UK politics, but Scottish politics is Scottish politics. It's bred so deep into them they can't see it though and think scotland should get back to supporting labour and just be happy with what england wants. Both channels prioritize england over the UK but they use the UK to push their agenda as england is a conservative country, so Phil and TLDR are the minority and they need scotland to vote red to help england at scotlands expense

@Z Z eh

Birds of a feather imho. It would be a good fit for you, and a great release for the UK.

@@wildec2 It seems like we have an agreement

@@deliarebaudengo5440 "It seems like we have an agreement" Jesus, someone agreed with me, thats different!

Scotland sould leave the UK and join the EU, we are open for them to enter with open arms!

@@wildec2 dumbest comment ever

What about Northern Ireland joining Ireland?

Eso sería un mal movimiento por parte de españa

they don't exist open your eyes

@@frosty9782 looool

@@frosty9782 Can confirm, it's just a void here

They also left all the islands out if their map of Scotland

Unwatchable

David Cameron's referendum caused the UK to fall apart. This enraged his father, who punished him severely.

@@musiclive3635 haha Uk Economy goes splat

@@musiclive3635 Sure , let's have a look at the dead rates , but you gammons don't like to talk to much about THAT !!!

@@musiclive3635 Eu vaccine roll now ahead of the uk lol.

@@musiclive3635 The UK economy has been tanking well before Covid "fool".

The people of the UK voted to leave. Why should a minority of people get a veto?

@@d283jdsk2 If four families are going out to eat and there is a restaurant that only one of the families likes but that family has more members than the others, do you go to that restaurant?

@@GrahamCLester Wales voted to leave more than the UK as a whole did by percentage. Mute point. Also each family would be split on which restraint to go to. Scotland in this case voted 62% to Remain of those who voted. And 42% voted Remain of those who COULD have voted (due to low turnout) meaning a minority of people who could vote wanted to Remain. Your family argument makes no sense.

Restaurant*

England gives Scotland billions every year the money could be spent in England instead

That prick was the one who decided to have a referendum

@@hueyfreeman1983 Everyone forgets that a referendum is not legally binding. In fact, that is why it is called a referendum, and not a vote… Just because Cameron said that he would stand by the result, did not mean it had to be implemented. I mean, he lost a great deal more face through the vote/referendum coming out the way it did, and if he had chosen to ignore the votes result. After all, you only needed 2% of whoever voted to vote the other way and you have a 50-50. And if more people voted, particularly the ones who assumed the vote would be to stay, it would be somewhat like the Scottish referendum is likely to be if there is an Indyref2…

@@bobphillips2188 Without the millions of pounds of our money spent on project fear and the entire media and every celeb (even other heads of state - Remember Obama?) telling us that Brexit would be a disaster - would the vote really have been 52/48 if people were left alone to make their own choice? I suspect it would have been more like 60/40 in Brexit's favour. Of course we still got a version of Brexit in name only and the political elite have dragged their feet ever since not going out of their way to press home the slender advantages this version of Brexit gave us.

@@LondonSteveLee 1) But, the Boris bus promise of £350,000,000 A WEEK for the NHS?! What has happened to that? 2) There was about an equal amount of money - also our money - spent on persuading us brexit was a good idea. 3) Had there been more time before the vote - which as you know was not binding, referenda never are, that's why they are called referenda/ums and not votes, even on the say so of a limp piece of crap, sorry, Cameron, who's word was never legally binding, but hey, let's forget about that - for Boris's £350M lie to be revealed, plus the many other ways in which the UK would somehow get richer without European involvement which were also basically lies, or at best, untruths. 4) Your suggestion that the 'vote' would have gone 60/40 in brexit's favour would have been based almost entirely on ignorance, and the other kind of fear, the one propagated by the racist people who don't like to hear 'foreign' accents or languages of other nationalities (like the ones half the UK population are derived from) You seem to think the brexit now enacted is not nearly 'Brexit' enough, while many, many people now see the mess we're in because 15-20% of truck drivers (don't forget, Brits could have had those jobs, but where were they, and where are they now we need them ffs?) have gone home, likewise veg and fruit pickers (the final count of how many millions of tonnes of food will have been buried in the ground is not yet in), and where are all the Brits who should be flooding the job vacancies? I wonder how many of those who ought to be filling such roles voted to leave... In any case, all this ding-dong 'I'm right' 'No, I'm right' gets us nowhere, yet more divisive ping-ping. All things considered, if everyone in the UK (as is) is going to get on, and share the country in relative harmony, all this he said she said stuff has to stop. If no one on these forums is actually going to listen, and even modify their own views, it is all more than a tad pointless. Choosing to ignore corruption in the Tory Party won't do, and cherry picking stats and other numbers likewise. That's me done, I will sit back and await the vitriol of dissenters (-:)~

@@bobphillips2188 The bus figure was ALREADY exceeded BEFORE Brexit (in name only) was finally done and before covid was unleashed - a standard lie of the left to suggest otherwise - NHS funding was at record levels before covid. As for the strawman racist blah blah crap -I won't dignify that with a response.

The Tories will run project fear to the max. They own msm including the BBC. Will it be Scotland the brave? You'd be fools to stick around for the Tory austerity drive Beginning bigtime in 2023, after an early election.

I agree, it was very well handled. I think Scotland will become independent, but the economic factor is the biggest detterent.

@@Emsworth377 It wont

I was once told by a Scot that the economic argument against independence is a straw man argument. On the books it seems as Scotland wouldn't do well on its own, as the Scottish exports run through English ports. Also, the fresh water reserves, oil reserves and sustainable energy generation in Scotland are all very positive, and would indicate Scotland would do very well within the EU, creating a border between Scotland and England.

The economic arguments against indipendence are mostly identical to those made against Irish indipendence 100 years ago. We should build on past experience and past debates. We have the benefit of hindsight.

Yeah, they are missing. They are even part of the EMU and use the Euro

They do not exist. Open your eyes!

Edit: Norway is only part of the economic zone, not the EU itself

@@Mutantproduct That's wrong. You mean Norway. Finland is a fully fleshed part of the European Union and even has the Euro.

@@brokkrep yup corrected it thanks

Might not be a bad thing. Question is what kind of trade relations they want with England. As the latter insisted in leaving the EU’s single market and customs union to ensure Brexit was not in name only, Scotland and Wales would not be able to trade easily with England if they joined the EU.

We need an English independence movement!

Honestly I don't think it is likely at all that Wales or northern Ireland will leave the UK in our lifetime

"the Union is dead, it just doesn't know it yet" Love this quote

All this means is that a future US president will sign a bilateral trade agreement with just England, instead of a United Kingdom. We should signed one 4 yrs ago.

As a Scot I hope not, we’re pretty weak country in terms of defence and with Russia threatening our air space that’s scary and also the likely weakened economy. It seems like there’s too pretty big risks involved for the possible chance of have a little bit more freedom

@@FFContent you have more nations backing you if a foreign nation invades your air space or whatever space you can think of.

@@FFContent As a Scot I agree

@@TheRanguna The EU are wimps to Russia they don't want to piss the big man off, because russia controls Germanys gas's and energy, so basically the EU that listens to Germany won't help Scottland.

@@TheRanguna but we wouldn’t have the support from the country that literally right next to us and one that already has a big amount of naval and air power

They are not real that’s why

@@sean5350 yea, like "belgium" what does that mean

@@televizion9962 - I think I took amoxicillin to get rid of the Belgians. 🤣

Don't worry about it. It was just an oversight. Foreigners often forget that Finland exists.

Moi viten voit

“But the uk left anyway”

Literally the only reason I voted remain in the original referendum.

@@DUCKDUDE4100 But you did know that there was going to be a referendum on leaving the EU.

You can blame the dishonest Remainiacs for that if you fell for it... The Remainiacs are the reason Brexit was pushed over the finish line to finally give us freedom from a democratic union we did not get a vote on joining.... Funny how those Pro-EU pees like Hesseltine were making a killing off EU green energy subsidies, all the while voting against Brexit at every opportunity. Don't be dumb... "our friends in the EU" = money for our elitist betters.

Haha ye. Pure fantasy

You mean BoJo&Co? 😜

thats fixable in due time look at the other EU countries like Portugal, Spain, France and Germany

It is hard to imagine Scotland securing its land border with England in line with Schengen rules. The imagery of any kind of barrier or security fence/zone being erected across those rolling green hills will almost certain cause many across Britain to feel queasy.

Hahahahahaha - a country that hates the EU so much that 40% voted to leave the EU altogether? yeah, mate, the EU are gonna love you...

I'd rather have a war on Scotland than having to tolerate them! Jeez, have you heard them talk? It is disgusting!

The world doesn’t work that way Gordon. We need DRAMA to feel alive and you are giving us the best show ever. 🤣😏 Watching you leaving the EU to get a better life and now seeing you becoming a mess. It is so amusing! 🙂 Riots in NI, Scotland getting anxious to leave the UK... a dysfunctional family! Can’t wait for more! 🙂

@@MusicLusber dude, its peoples lifes that are being fucked up right there, I personally always found brexit to be a very sad occurence, as I hoped the EU could be the first step towards a star Trek future haha

@@teergeret : What I can’t understand is why haven’t the unicorns 🦄 come out in public since Brexit was finalised. I mean, I thought, I was told, we were promised.......

@@Driver2616 ilr right, weve been tricked

@@MusicLusber Bruh stfu you have a playlist literaly named Gay 😂 L

What?

@@ZARRKK He refers to the map at 0:38

The funniest thing is that they do this mistake, not for the first time.

A subtle prediction?

Well currently neither are Liechtenstein, Albania, the United Kingdom, Turkey, Switzerland, Iceland, Macedonia, Norway or Montenegro members of the EU with many other members not even part of the single currency, like Sweden, Denmark, Poland Czech Republic, Hungary, Bulgaria, Croatia, Austria and Romania who use their own currency and dont take orders from the European Central Bank.

That too

There is just one problem. A lot of Scots don't want to leave the UK. I think Scotland will vote to be independent bit then they will realise that such a serious action. For so little like a barely function Economic union. They will realise this and maybe want a re vote. And they will refuse. So then it becomes a Brexit like situation until the police shut all the protests down. The border would be like India and Pakistan. It would not be fun.

@@thesuperintendent4290 The same thing happened with UK Brexit also, a lot of people also voted NOT to leave EU and there were some protests and then everything settled down, the same thing would happened with Scotland too, people who voted against the independence would protest for a bunch of days then they will go back home and that's it.

Im a scotsman and i want independence

I am french, and I agree that it is up to them to decide what to do. And I hope they will do what is best for them. But honestly, European union does not work. Building such an union is a huge mistake. This union did bring us more corruption and more dictatorship. To me there is only 2 working way: - We build one and only one country, like USA. And we accept to have only one common president, same welfare system in all the union, .... Rich country will have to send indirectly money to poor country. (like we do from Paris to Saint etienne in France, or from Munich to Gelsenkirchen in Germany). This is something I would agree. We would also need more democracy. In this condition, if Scotland want to join, it would be good for them. But ... to me, if UK did the brexit, it was because our union was bad. If one day we build something better, UK may be back. - If we are more realist, we would understand that building one country is impossible ... because our countries are all selfish. In this case, it is better to do what the UK did: brexit (frexit, italeave, deutschexit, ...).

@@derk486 But if you want independence from UK, and if you want to joint European union, you will not be independent ... Bruxelles will decide for you. I may be wrong, and I know that lots of people wont agree with me, but I think the european union bring more poverty and less democracy to most country.. Let give me an example. In this union, most of us have the euro currency, right ? In France where I live, we had the franc currency. In France we have more official than Germany (I dont know if it is the correct english word. But they are people paid buy french government, like nurse in public hospital, teachers, policeman, but also lots of maybe usless people working in desk). So because we have more official, France need more taxes to cover that. So french company are disadvantaged against German company. Before the euro currency, France was increasing the inflation to cover this expense. This is why germany had a stronger currency than us. But at that time, we also had strong company. Today we cannot do that: the only way is austerity. The issue is that people dont agree. We should have told french people to choose: they want euro currency and accept austerity OR they do frexit and accept inflation. They will never say that to people. And politician will always promise the impossible like salary increase, more official in hospital, but if they are elected, they wont do it. This is the same issue in Spain or Italy for example. This is why this system bring us more poverty. And about democracy ? It is simple: we have to obey to bruxelles. That means you have no freedom. You want more nurse in hospital ? But other countries wont accept that. (because we share the same currency, and what we do have consequences in the common currency).

Thats nice of them, they're slowly opening their minds

Spain would veto Scotland joining the EU if they held a referendum without the approval of Westminster.

@@Arrtyom15 Every EU country would do that.

Only if it’s an officially sanctioned referendum though, we’re unlikely to get another one soon

@@gentlemoa9859 They never said they would veto them, it is a lie Brexit supporters said. The Spanish foreign minister confirmed long ago that Spain would welcome Scotland into EU.

Rubbish that referendum was lost on the inability of the SNP to tell voters what currency they would be using.

@@kethughes8266 OK, I'm pro-independence, but surely that's not the _only_ reason those who voted remain had.

@@didimaggie7526 I never claimed it was I said it was lost for that reason.That independence would mean leaving the EU the SNP could do nothing about (which makes their recent conversion to membership all the more touching).That they failed to have a plan B on the currency issue when the UK government made the obvious move of refusing the use of the pound was just plain incompetent and cost them the 6/7 % they needed.

Well bigger off , your country is only in it for money .

@@Meadows-tg3tv man shut up

@@Meadows-tg3tv How would you know?

@@Conservator. read the treaty’s of the passed ? I’m mean read them not say you’ve read them or say you have by saying it Look at all the minutes talking also look at the agenda before the treaty and everything added , then make i rational reply not a unsubstantiated reply with know continuity. Remember I’m very good at being sergeant no excuses I only deal in facts. The pound Sterling is a valuable currency. To be handed over and spent with No accountability, so come back when you know what you’re talking about.

@@Meadows-tg3tv My question was how would YOU know, not how I would know but I appreciate your effort. Before discussing treaties, you should know which country 3 Walking Poles - Seb is from. That would help searching the right treaties. What country did you have in mind?

I'd never seen that clip before I'm impressed she was so scarily right tbh

Well, she was actually completely wrong... partly, this clip somewhat misrepresents what she was claiming. Yes, she did talk about Scotland being taken out of the EU against their will but she also tried to claim that Scotland would retain EU membership if the left UK.

@@LudvigIndestrucable What do you mean? If Scotland left when the UK was still a member. Then of course it would be easier for them to retain EU membership. That's obvious.

@@Xii371 not necessarily, they would have left the EU when they left UK and would have had to reapply as a newly independent nation. Spain is not the only country in the EU with a vested interest in not allowing newly independent nations to join. It may well have been very difficult for them.

@@MrMGN666 No one in the EU wouldn't want Scotland to join. Stop spreading disinformation. I'm in Ireland and we'd love to see them in. It makes no sense for them to not be a member.

What's wrong with the uk??

Everything

Brexit didn't change the game-it just gave Sturgeon a convenient excuse. That woman would demand an Indyref,if she broke a nail! The UK was the member state of the EU-not Scotland. Scotland is not even a sovereign country.

Referendums shouldnt be held over and over again until the people finally vote for the desired answer. At the same time, maybe whats really needed is a referendum in England, Wales and NI about whether they still want Scotland. It would restore some of my faith in humanity if that vote passed to boot them out.

@@wildec2 Why should we leave our own country,when we voted to stay in the United Kingdom? And why would you want to boot us out? Don't judge the decent majority of Scots,by the minority who want independence.

@@andrewpollock4599 Thats fine in theory; however, I would say that depopulation of pro-UK people from Scotland, with government funding, might help solve the issue once and for all. On the other hand, ultimately what might be best for separatists scots is to be accepted as migrants into the EU...

Scotland needs more people not less it's population is declining

Yes thats why i put dislike

…they sold off their office’s ‘excess’ blue paint too early 😄

When did they vote to join ?

@@simapark Finland 1995 Lativa 2003 Estonia 2003 also

They're second class members

The EU membership was for the UK as a whole not four constituent countries so it was true at the time leaving UK did equate to leaving EU for certain Just that staying was never guarantee to remain in the EU

@@vinniechan Technically the remain in UK campaign did promise just that. But nvm There was also the underlying threat that England would Veto Scotland's application to join the EU.

It's not about being good or bad it's about being treated on equal footing and not like a lost child as it's being currently treated and has been by the westminster

@@vinniechan it was promised by the remain UK campaign that the UK wouldn't leave the EU so I'd definitely suggest a new referendum is needed due to this promise being broken, especially if the SNP get a majority in the parlement

@@vinniechan the EU membership was for the whole of the UK yes but Scotland had representation in the EU as we had 6 MEPs, Wales had 4, Northern Ireland had 3 and England had 60. The EU MEPs were divided up to represent each part of the UK. In an Independent Scotland that is a member of the EU Scotland would have more seats, I think we would have about 14 seats.

I read an article from jan 2021 that they would veto. There are conflicting reports.

Not just the spanish claiming veto, dainish and dutch, polish and hungarians have all said they would, none of the strong economies of the EU want scotland as it would just be another defecit nation their country has to pay for, poland and hungary are on pretty good terms with England and would veto it if Westminster told them to

Bradders - Most of them are receiving money rather than donating it so it’s unlikely to change anything, and why would Westminster wants to veto the Scottish membership in the UE while they could directly argue in the Scottish leaving the uk ?

@@Colk13 yes most of them recieve money but the few who dont arent going to want another begger forcing them to pay out more money.

When does a referendum become legitimate? When Boris (or some other Tory) decide to put it to the Westminster Parliament, which would probably vote for it. BUT its Boris who decides.. He is not keen on parliament anyway, so would not put it there for a vote. To me, the brexit vote was illegitimate amyway, as only a minority of the electorate voted for it.

Just replace Hadrians wall with Hadrians very deep moat :)

Yeah, I don't know where get their maps but they need to up their game. Isn't the first time

It’s less about goods and more about people. Due to the EUs free movement of people, the border would have to be a hard one to police who’s coming into the UK from Scotland

The EU wont allow Scottish exports to England without tariffs. And yes there will be a hard border.

I know right? Instead of leaving the UK could have used it s position to influence EU politics.

@@Somajsibere reform is always better than revolution

@@Jay_Johnson Absolutely

@@Jay_Johnson I don't agree with that statement, since a revolution could also just be a swift large reform.

@@Somajsibere tried that. Didn't work

@@steeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee That's what he said

Dislike this video becose of it.

These countries should never have been able to join the EU. EU enlargement to include poor Eastern European countries is the main reason the UK left.

@@summerrr1 Finland is preaty rich. And Finland is absolutly not eastern Europe.

It's very poor of them. If they are a supposed source of information, surely they should get the basics right?

Who? Never hear those countries just the lovely Finland (jk)

The Baltics need more love. It's a shame they're often overlooked.

And the border between Northern Ireland and Ireland should be between Northern Ireland and England per the Northern Ireland Protocol.

That's the EU's borders according to Putin. He says the Baltic states should be in a partnership with Russia, not with Germany and France.

The UK voted to leave the eu . once in a generation vote only no one agreed to if there is a change. scotland is in the uk The UK voted to leave the corrupt eu end of story. scotland cannot afford to leave the UK and the scotland cannot join the eu without the UK so your point is floored. you have been schooled.

@@jonathanhammerton9418 lol the comment “once in a generation” and the condition “unless substantive change” were made by the same politician. There was no “agreement” to either statement because it wasn’t a proposal… but part of a campaign speech on the importance of the vote. The “once in a generation” quote is now used by opposition to justify turning down additional votes but it was never a legally binding statement. You can’t school anyone if you don’t know what you’re talking about 😂

@@NOVARIS No there was no condition of 'if there was a change' there was only one condition and that was it was a once in a generation vote. end of story you lose bye bye

@@jonathanhammerton9418 neither were conditions 🤣 they were statements of intention. Just like when Scots were told they would definitely stay in EU during Scottish referendum, that wasn’t a condition either but a statement. It doesn’t have any legal standing.

@@jonathanhammerton9418 just out of curiosity do you even live in Scotland? From what I can gather you don’t seem to understand why SNP is popular or what the some of the major political and social differences between England and Scotland are. Part of the issue for Scottish people is that even if the majority vote for a party it doesn’t affect who the PM is ultimately because of population differences.

To make the video easier to understand we chose to zoom in on the section which was most relevant- in this case Scotland. We weren't deliberately cutting anyone out, we were just focusing on Scotland and thus it was easiest to illustrate the countries closest to Scotland rather than zooming out and making the whole image smaller & less clear! Also if we were trying to get the whole EU in we'd also have to include French Guiana, and I think we can all agree that zooming out enough to include South America might make the details we need to show a little less clear - Jack

It should probably include the EEA countries in a lighter blue as well, because they have freedom of movement and single market access.

@@TLDRnews I'm not talking about zooming in to the picture, I'm talking about what parts of the visible map are colored to mean that they're a part of the EU. Look at 0:33.

@@TLDRnews you can just show French Guiana instead of showing the entire South America

@@TLDRnews I think you are missing the point, at 7:39 estonia, latvia and finland are all visible but not blue.

From an EFTA perspective.. (Okay, norwegian ☺) Meh. .. Scotland alone, possibly . the UK? Never. (and. EFTA isn't looking for members, and is basically more EU compliant than the UK has ever been. No vote generally means yes. To schengen f.ex.) I think a direct reconnect with the EU more likely.. But.. I obviously think the UK looks like it could break apart. And I have the impression that Scotland would do well to vote again.. There are more options though.. like a third kind of collaboration. With the Nordic countries, which is a parallel thing to EFTA..

Gordon, stuff the red tape. You and Ireland go EU 100 M.P.H. Just do it.

That's what I was thinking as well. Since they already meet the requirements, they could be admitted to the EFTA and thus rejoin the single market very rapidly, while they work out whether they want full EU membership again, and if so, while they go through the lengthy accession process.

@Billy Bunter Scotland has a trade deficit with rUK, so the rUK would be cutting it's nose off to spite it's face by making trade difficult post Scottish indy. Plus, I thought England wanted to go global and trade with the world, it wouldn't exactly be a great advertisement for rUK if they couldn't even manage to do a trade deal with their nearest and dearest neighbour now, would it?

@@SH-lm6ek To be honest, Scotland may not even have a choice. The EU would demand a hard border. Despite how nice Scotland the UK would like to play. Plus, once that happens, it would frustrate efforts to raise the massive 11% drop in total Scottish gov funding which they get as a grant from the British Gov as per the Barnett Formula which Scotland would not be privy to anymore. The EU would have Scotland by the short n curlies!

Means will scot get freedom??

@@anilgowdam112 well maybe. Its basically a 50/50 split at this point.

Remember, Scotland does 60% of it's business with the UK, but only 19% before Brexit. So which is most important. That's right, Sturgeon getting on the EU gravy train!!!

Also, there are only twelve stars, rather than twenty-seven.

And Macedonia. Also San Marino is technically shown as part of the EU, despite not being so.

@@scifino1 the flag of Europe is supposed to have 12 stars, not one for each member of the EU.

@@FirstNameLastName-tg3rc It's North Macedonia now.

@@FirstNameLastName-tg3rc Macedonia is in the EU unless you are referring to North Macedonia.

Or listened to Sturgeon and her glove puppet Harvie

I've always been annoyed at that kind of thinking. Scotland was as much a participant of colonialism and the misdeeds that went along with it but they always have the rest of Britain to blame for it.

@@BingleFlimp ah yes, because 2021 Scotland is to blame for the actions of the 1700s British Empire..... Get over yourself.

@@henryhunter9643 They're as much to blame as England. There's a staggering amount of Scottish people that act like they were dragged kicking and screaming into imperialism. They've benefited from and participated in the empire just as much as any other nation in the UK.

@@BingleFlimp Yawn. You probably think that black people alive today in the west should be paid money as 'reparations' for the slave trade. The sins of the father should not be forced upon the sons.

Any yet it was abundantly clear a Brexit referendum was coming at the time of the Scottish Independence referendum.

I like that idea. Sadly it's very late in the day for England to remodel the union in that kind of democracy as they think as if we are one country and Wales, N. Ireland and Scotland are merely counties within it. That means England always trumps all decision just just to numbers, power. The existing model of union has run its course. Can it change or is divorce inevitable?

It would be highly unpopular due to the population size difference however, if England was split into devolved regions then the UK parliament could become some kind of Senate representative of the other Countries and of the Regions of England. If we do that then they (the senate) would only have sovereignty over things usually given to federal governments so defence and foreign affairs and a few other odd bits, we could also say that any vote would be required to gain 75% of the votes to succeed which would force the English regions to get at least one of the other countries on their side if they all voted the same way for a vote to pass; alternatively while keeping the threshold for a successful vote at 75% we could reduce the number of regions of England by two which would force the English regions to make an agreement with two of the other countries to win a vote.

You're talking about a modern federal system such as Australia where for a referendum to pass there must be a majority vote in a majority of states. But the UK is a feudal country with an unelected head of state an unelected house of review and (at present) an unelected PM, I think it's probably best it collapses.

@@SirAntoniousBlock Australia also has an unelected, *impartial* head of state as we *share* one and a reform of the House of Lords has been advocated for years. Although it is not actually entirely unelected but rather has a very limited amount of candidates elected by the house.

@@danielsullivan598 Scotland ENGLAND border should move SOUTH to River Tees ~ River Kent !!!

There are two sides to that coin though, the SNP playing up nationalism and independence in the runup to the referendum in 2014 in order to try to leave the union only to then turn around and decry nationalism and stress unity in the EU referendum. There are inconsistencies, hypocrisies and biases on all sides. Personally I favoured unity in both cases.

@@rvfharrier There is a big difference between the civic nationalism of the SNP, and the ethnic nationalism driving Brexit and current Tory policies

The islands (Shetland etc) have said that in the event of Scotland leaving the union they would want independence but the SNP have said no so there inconsistencies everywhere.

@@Cybonator Nationalism is nationalism, the narrative used in 2014 that Scotland is a repressed country having its freedoms stifled and dictated by a larger power was almost a mirror image of that pushed by those advocating for Brexit. As someone who voted Remain and is a unionist, I see Brexit and the Scottish independence movement having a lot in common with one another.

@@rvfharrier Agreed. So many of the points being made are similar in both Brexit and Scottish independence, but of course, supporters of either will claim the other is worse and *their* nationalism is okay.

@@ninjascotsman good for you?

@@ninjascotsman then why you voted for brexit?

As of England is a self sufficient country. You are already paying taxes without knowing.

@@edmundc4443 Scotland as a whole voted against brexit lol

@@ev.c6 what do you mean?

Yeah because TLDR are totally an unbiased source.

@@sionsmedia8249 to be fair, that probably would be the response

@@sionsmedia8249 Well, the English are doing their best to fuck everything up and completely disregard all the other member states

@@Snarfindorf I would normally agree with you regarding English attitudes to other member counties of the UK, however, in regards to Brexit, the UK as a whole voted to leave the EU. The only thing that's happening there is that they're honoring the referendum. Allowing the referendum NOT to go through because the minority of the UK (even if that minority included the majority of Scotland) voted to remain in the EU, would be undemocratic.

@@davidg2708 NI and Scotland never voted for it.

Next year let's just hope🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇪🇺

@@yiro6577 Yeah good luck lads, best to escape the current tory mess that's just happened recently....

Ehh. As a Dutch EU citizen, I don't find it funny, not funny at all. I find it utterly painful to watch and a complete betrayal to the Scottish people. It breaks my heart, that's how painful I find it!

@@MrMickey1987 🧐 who asked?

What is so funny about it? Scotland wanted to stay in the EU. Now they are forced out. It's only natural to accept Scotland in the EU if they leave the UK.

Watching you leaving the EU to get a better life and now seeing you becoming a mess, it is so amusing! 🤭🤭🤭 Riots in the NI, Scotland getting anxious to leave you, and We, from Spain 🇪🇸, having the chance to decide your future... oh my! This is better than a reality show! 🤣🤣🤣 😏

@@MusicLusber I think those riots in Barcelona were a little more extreme? Lol maybe if they threw Sturgeon in prison things might get comparable?

Ireland is sitting pretty but hey let's repeat the doom and gloom of the English press because that wouldn't be biased at all

@B The UK just achieved economic suicide themselves by your logic...or would you argue that the UK can survive without the EU as it's largest trading partner? Seriously, you can't have it both ways. Yes, Scotland's economy will look different, but other nations have successfully build their economies by having control of their affairs. Scotland is a country with a lot of brains and talent. Finance, Services and Tech are all areas they can thrive in, even beyond standard industry.

@@nickmonks9563 Yea you’re right you can’t have it both ways, you’ve just contradicted yourself Why would Scotland cut off its biggest trading partner more than 3 times bigger than anywhere else That would be the rUK

@@DevonMcFarlane Then you actually need to read about Ireland’s economy It a tax haven Ireland’s economic statistics are close to meaningless. In the words on one US economist, they tell us more about the tax affairs of American corporations than they do about the Irish economy. To Nobel prize-winning economist Paul Krugman, it is leprechaun economics.

Three very important words If I lived there

No

@@mrcool2107 ok

Why would anyone want to be a vassal of Englandshire and the Home Counties?

@@diegoarmando5489 For the gibs, mostly.

Is Scotland just a vassal state of the English/UK state? It will be vassal state of the EU though.

This isn't talked about enough. The current budget of the Scottish Parliament is only possible due to subsidies granted by Westminster.

@@ddandymann That makes it worse for Scotland, lets make a new slogan for the Scottish independence movement, Scotland to bankruptcy together 👊🤙🤙🤟🤟

As an american it's hilarious to hear him say that because over here I'm pretty sure he'd get taken at his word like he gave up lol

@Raa Hiissdd dass Spanish EU officials =//= Spanish people and goverment.

+ Brittany, Cornwall and the Isle of Man.

aussies don't think much, they're upside down so find it difficult

eh, it's pretty skewed mate

Reform the commonwealth and send our money to the prison colony.

loves the aussies love the ashes

That is not a sound argument. It can always get worse and given the ties between the UK and Scotland (economic and social) a hard border would be worse. It's like saying "I've lost an arm already, so surely losing a leg won't be that bad?"

*lose

@@mark63424able Well, it is more the devil you you vs. the devil you do not. Look at the current UK government, you know it will get worse when you stay.

@@mark63424able it can and will get worse with the stranglehold the tories and conservatives have on power

@@mark63424able On the books it would seem Scotland doesn't hold its own economically, but that's simply not true. Exports run through English ports, so it would seem the goods being produced and sold by Scotland are actually being sold by England. If they'd leave the UK, there's 27 other countries to trade freely with, and dozens and dozens of strong free trade agreements that come with it. Looking at Liz Truss's appalling way of handling the Australian FTA, and all other ridiculous rollover deals with tiny, poor countries, you'll see what Scotland will lose and gain - they'll lose a morally bankrupt and abusive government bent on destroying trade, and not understanding reality, and gain a huge and powerful worldwide market through joining the EU. Remind me again: back in 2016, what did Liz Truss say about leaving the EU?

I doubt it would get violent, but the SNP would have a hard time justifying blocking Orkney/Shetland separatism if they themselves want to separate from rUK

Apparently those who vote(d) NO would have to just accept things. You know, the way the Yes voters did last time.

@@kevinmould6979 You mean, in that 'once in a generation' vote?😂😂

Also, as an English person what about my 'rights' to access Scotland which has been my right since 1707? Can I not apply to be a Scottish citizen as well? This cake and eat it thing seems to be OK for EU citizens.

In my opinion the best scenario is a scotland thats part of the uk thats in the eu. But we cant have that so we have too choose which is better; independent and in the eu or part of the uk but not in the eu.

Get a new joke, this one is over done

@@moarhappy7675 it isnt a joke. It’s literally true. Ive met hundreds of Scottish people living in London, dying for independence, hating England yet……..living in London. Irish friends of mine are not the same, Spanish and other EU nationals are not the same - they all at least have things good to say and enjoy it. Only the Scottish both absolutely hate England, absolutely pine for independence yet wont live there. Mind blowing.

True

It skipped almost everything that actually matters and focused on current political figures and 'England' .. No doubt why so many Scottish nationalists hear view it as balanced.

Scotland does not do 'austerity', only subsidies.For example if Scotland had the same level of NHS provision as England they will have to close 219 hospitals. Does the EU really want centuries of endless subsidies to Scotland?

We have to give them 12 million every year let them go

" a liability such as Scotland" haha, dont tell the pro-scottish this... However, perhaps the EU would grant Scotland a transition plan, as it was part of the EU already... If the UK pretended to be outraged it might smooth the deal a bit as well, as nothing would make Brussels happier than rankling the poms.

A large part of the deficit is because of the money they send to England though

Well, while you're correct that British would be the correct term for someone indentifying themselves as from the british isles, it does refer to the UK, due to the existance of the british commonwealth and because England is the main one pushing for unity for over 400 years, British is often more associated with the English than Scots, Welsh or the Irish Technically British as an adjective doesn't even refers to Great Britain as the islands, just to the United Kingdom as an entity (Which is ruled by an english queen...You get it) British never referred to the islands, it originally referred to Brettisc or the old Britons, then to the UK and so on, dictionaries acknowledge it and so does its people

@@francogamer7794 but what about northern Ireland who aren't British? The full name is the United kingdom of great Britain and Northern island. The UK isnt necessarily 'british' but because Northern Ireland is only one of 4 countries, they're usually forgotten about In that context and people just say UK and GB as the same thing. Even in our UK Olympic team we say Team GB which is very confusing for us and everyone else. I think it was a mistake clumping in 'british' with UK, We have identity issues that's for sure, even when it comes to professional events, but truly and naturally, despite whatever is associated with what, the 3 countries of great Britain will always be British countries. The same way, we will always be European even though we've left the EU.

@@MyNameIsOpTimized720 No, I get it, I'm just saying that both are valid ways to refer to something, just because British refers to the UK doesn't means it is limited to that

@@MyNameIsOpTimized720 Here in Northern Ireland, we “identify” as British, it’s far easier than saying “UK citizen” or something. Plus we got British passports, the exact same as any other country in Britain.

He didn't for a reason. He knew losing Brexit would lose Scotland.

@@crhu319 I don't think it was that tbh, he was expecting a double helping of remain results, which is why he stepped down and we got landed with Theresa 😔 Brown, Blair, Cameron & Clegg, May, were all failures in their own ways (waiting to see what BoJo does post Covid seeing as I don't think it would be fair to compare governing in a crisis to his predecessors who had calm waters when they cocked everything up)

The rest of the UK wouldn't have to pay for Scotland any more?

@@neilgriffiths6427 You wouldn't be able to anyway the way things are going.

If a country is out, it's out. NI has a special status because of historical issues.

@@alexlanyi2329 To clarify, I meant that if Scotland successfully leaves UK and rejoins the EU- NI should be the closest EU ports, due to it's special status (unless, of course that's removed for one reason or another).

@@RannonSi ok yeah, that does make sense.

@@alexlanyi2329 It does on my level of knowledge, if anyone who knew anything about it they'd probably facepalm through their heads! :p

@@RannonSi true so long as the aim is trade with Ireland. If the destination is the continent, shipping via Ireland is not necessarily quicker than to the Netherlands, Germany or Belgium across the North Sea.

The SNP have stated that the referendum would take place I 2023 or when the pandemic is over.

And the Scottish Breens within 5 years

Win again? I'm sure they lost the last referendum

@@jm-np4mu win an election

@@kingofthemawds9472 Support for independence has collapsed, and no referendum will happen without WM approval. SNP are taking their supporters for fools, delay delay delay

They are important.

pls do a photo of a finnish euro coin and share the upload link xD

TLDR is confirmed russian shill!!

@@BlockchainGenius Finland doesn't exist, its a conspiracy.

I’m a bit confused. Scotland’s rulers - The Scottish National Party - are more nationalist than the U.K. Government. So by your reckoning Scotland’s desire for independence is stupid. Okay.

video forgot to say since Greece the eu has made a debt per capita standard. and the Scottish upon independence the scots will have too much to join

LOL.

It would be you paying the shipping :)

I think YOU would have to pay for the shipping and import tax hahaha

Scotland has only 59 out of 650 seats in the House of Commons so imagine how little emphasis there is on Scotland. Ireland has Dail Éireann as its only parliament where there's 160 seats and each constituency has either 3, 4, or 5 seats and its entire emphasis on Ireland.

@@phillipwilloughby5013, sure, ask Gordon Brown.

@@phillipwilloughby5013 because scotland has about 5 million people, while england has over 50 million... ofc there's more seats to represent England

@@toffeesky6227 Creating a parliament that has nearly all its emphasis on England with Scotland and Wales barely noticeable. What a pointless ridiculous farce. Independent Scotland and Wales would each be one country with one parliament emphasising all attention on their own country then England would have the House of Commons all to itself.

well TACTICALLY PERFECTLY placed Refferendums...-.- as always with Cameron -.-

Or imagine if Scots had voted Yes to Indy. They would have had to negotiate leaving the UK and the EU AT THE SAME TIME. And the Brexit referendum probably wouldn't have happened either with that shit storm going on so the UK would have still had its veto

@@mogznwaz they would have had help from the EU negotiating with the UK...since they wouldnt have LEFT the EU...