The GSD towing a car, this is the proper way to cargobike. Great vid Dan.
@BicyclingMag3 жыл бұрын
Cargo is in the eye of the beholder!
@Wildbikeslife3 жыл бұрын
Cargo Bike make car go
@Brandon-xp1ob3 жыл бұрын
I used to get complimented for carrying a six pack on my Node D8 rack but I'm sending you a virtual high five for carrying 4 mini kegs. That's awesome! 😅
@LoveToday83 жыл бұрын
One of the best electric bikes on the market.
@brendanerskine41582 жыл бұрын
Waiting for the showcase of the bike's ability to 'absolutely fly up hills'.
@DeanJuvenal Жыл бұрын
Yes! Literally versus metaphorically.
@moochincrawdad Жыл бұрын
Excellent review - it really shows how far we've come over the last 20 years or so - back then even suggesting that a bike could be a replacement for a car would be met with laughter and scorn. Now the love affair with motorised transport is almost locked at the "we need to talk" stage, especially with traffic jams!
@macpdm3 жыл бұрын
I replaced my car but instead I went for the HSD S8i and don’t regret it. Enjoyed the video 👍
@BicyclingMag3 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@misaelramos832 жыл бұрын
Nice! How do you use it?
@macpdm2 жыл бұрын
@@misaelramos83 thanks it’s a great bike. I commute 8mls per day to work and back.
@stewartmckay98302 жыл бұрын
A bike trailer to go with the bike would be great for tradesmen. Youth parking is a nightmare in large cities a trailer you could stand on its end and lock Would be a brilliant idea
@fraaggl2 жыл бұрын
how is it possible that more popular are the electric bike, more expensive they get ?
@fnmag68092 жыл бұрын
Great video lots of information
@BikeShopGirl3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video!!!
@vinayaktiwari43837 ай бұрын
Mate apart from the goodies. Could you review on real life situations as below : Whats the service and maintenance schedule and costs ? Ownership costs ? Will it work in heavy rain and can it stand heavy rain in parking lots ? How easy to get replacement parts and costs of spares ? What are the common real life problems with the bike ? Is it too big to be stored in tight parking spaces in retail stores ? What are the security features to safeguard it from being stolen? Whats the warranty like and can anyone fix/service ?
@courtneycobbs70343 жыл бұрын
I hope they make a Class 3 option available in the future.
@Wildbikeslife3 жыл бұрын
There's a class 3 HSD now, and Yuba has come out with a class 3 Spicy Curry All Terrain model. Maybe a class 3 GSD is in the cards...
@misaelramos832 жыл бұрын
Would need bigger brakes
@mostlye-bikes93563 жыл бұрын
Nice work!
@-joo30333 жыл бұрын
I can tow a car with a normal bicycle...the GSD is awesome
@jacksonbangs66032 жыл бұрын
I wonder if you can tow a Burly Nomad bicycle trailer with this E-bike?
@mauort68703 жыл бұрын
Great review. How was the handling going down hills?
@Wildbikeslife3 жыл бұрын
S00 LX rider here, it's nice and stable descending, heavy, so you want to keep it under control, but the braking is responsive and powerful (Magura 180mm hydraulic disc brakes). Make sure to mind service intervals and bed in new brake pads.
@jeromedelaere79352 жыл бұрын
what s the model of the white bike at 3minutes 56 seconds ?
@drivestorage17792 жыл бұрын
We are tandemers who want to fulltime replace our car. We ride a bike friday which is buttery smooth but we need a 2nd tandem. Looking at the co-motions periscope, found a bike shop that is willing to work with ordering it and custom some parts (e-assist, rear axle needs to be beefier, handlebars need to be more cruiser-like .. we want our co-motion to be touring-ready). Any suggestions on tandem bikes that can carry both people and cargo? We ride heavy, REALLY heavy (100 lbs+) and won't have it any other way.
@DeanJuvenal Жыл бұрын
Disappointingly little about the heart of an eBike = the motor. Is it really in the rear wheel along with the gearbox?
@curtishohman6809 Жыл бұрын
Ya he forgot to explain that it's a mid-drive motor. All of Bosch's motors are mid drive.
@DeanJuvenal Жыл бұрын
@@curtishohman6809 T Y
@Beanodog2 жыл бұрын
Does the rear axle have access for a trailer coupling?
@ice41422 жыл бұрын
Yes according to the tern website
@misaelramos832 жыл бұрын
I'm definitely down for a cargo eBike. Might just have to bafang my trek 520 in the mean time tho 😅
@TK-in7fn3 жыл бұрын
How tall are you ? Was he one size fits all frame sizing ok ?
@danrmaz Жыл бұрын
I am 196 cm/6”5. How good Woolf it feel for me? Thanks
@antwantuan40403 жыл бұрын
why is this bike almost 4 times more than radwaggon or euronau. Are all the parts on this bike 4 times better? Hell its even more expensive than top of the line commuter carbon ebike like Trek or cayon or canondale
@BicyclingMag3 жыл бұрын
Great question! A lot of that price comes down to the build and capability. The Tern GSD has almost three times the range of the RadWagon 4, due to the dual batteries, and an extra 90 lbs of carrying capacity at 440 pounds. It's also foldable (to a point), which makes it able to be stored in smaller spaces than the RadWagon, which may be valuable to some users. Other branded components like the Bosch Cargo line motor system, Gates carbon belt drive, Rohloff geared hub, SunTour Fork and integrated lock also add up to it being a more expensive build.
@daisydela2 жыл бұрын
The Radwagen is specifically marketed to cheap buyers. It has a hub drive motor, which sucks and has very little torque for climbing or carrying heavy loads. Trust me, hub drive motors are terrible for modern e-bikes. I built up my first one in 2010, and burned out two motors on my Yuba cargo bike. Mid drive has much more torque for practical use. I converted to mid drive and can now climb any hill carrying my dog and 10-bags of groceries. The Radwagen only really works for flat ground.
@difflocktwo2 жыл бұрын
@@daisydela Mid drive sucks. Gearless hub drive is the way to go. Gearless hub drive wins every time because you get rid of almost all maintenance when using one. No brake maintenance and no drivetrain maintenance. My hub motor has been abused for 10 years now and it's still going strong. It's the bike around the hub motor that is falling apart and yet the motor keeps going. My hub motor has enough torque to flip you off your bike and it hasn't melted in 10s of thousands of commuter miles and many hundreds of ~50kg trailer hauling miles. The bub motor is just a cheapy $100 Chinese hub motor.
@prothonotar2 жыл бұрын
@@difflocktwo lol absolutely not
@melissaward5642 Жыл бұрын
How do I know where the product bought from?
@vincentdesio72123 жыл бұрын
How long did it take Dan to kill those four kegs for the video?
@BicyclingMag3 жыл бұрын
Rumor has it he's still working on them.
@dont32223 жыл бұрын
He is a good sipper. Give him 6 days.
@stardrifter28723 жыл бұрын
OK so I can buy one of these for 8K or I could buy like 6 rad cargo bikes for the same price. Perhaps your bike is better than those but is at 6 times better?
@-joo30333 жыл бұрын
Depends, the rad bike is a WW golf while this is a Porshe
@Wildbikeslife3 жыл бұрын
I think a gsd r14 might last six times as long or get used six times as much... But as with bikes in general, the best e-cargo bike is the e-cargo bike you've got! Comparing S10 to the Radwagon is much more apples to apples though, and you've gotta hand it to RAD for nailing their price point and marketing and activating a huge segment of latent ebikers.
@daisydela2 жыл бұрын
The Radwagen uses a hub drive motor and is marketed for buyers in a budget who won’t really use them for hills. Hub drive motors have very little torque. The Radwagen is great is you only ride in flat areas. Terrible is you live in hilly areas or want to carrry heavy loads. With a mid-drive I can literally climb a mountain with my dog and 10-bags of groceries. It’s hilarious the crazy loads I can carry uphill.
@stkoutdoors15713 жыл бұрын
I understand this is pedal assist, but can you also ride with only the electric motor for miles without pedaling?
@-joo30333 жыл бұрын
lmao *No you cant* , thats litterally what "pedal assist" (PAS) means, no assist unless you are pedaling.
@MegaBaz12 Жыл бұрын
Just seems a lot of money even for the cheaper one
@abhinavgarg64873 жыл бұрын
Who is the target market for a $4,600, let alone a $8k cargo bike? I thought half the point of these things was out-pricing a car to make the decision easier?
@BicyclingMag3 жыл бұрын
They're great options for people in cities who may not have the space to keep a car, but can still handle much of the load.
@DaveAtkinson3 жыл бұрын
because no-one's ever spent $8k on a car, right?
@mrs.lauren77263 жыл бұрын
America has a car problem lol. Lacking funds for public transport and a ton of cheap used cars, which is great for low income families don't get me wrong but going by example from other countries most people would probably be happier with out a car if the roads and other means of transport were not working against that happening
@ryansager61003 жыл бұрын
My wife and I, we just ordered 2 r14's
@youknownothing37663 жыл бұрын
@@ryansager6100 Nice, I own the GSDv2 S10 had it for a month. I can see myself getting an R14 probably a Gen3 or HSD if it comes out with a Rohloff. In hindsight I probably should have gone with an R14 upfront, looking at it the hub is well worth it.
@minniesaab72553 жыл бұрын
🖤💚❤💙
@joselabrada232 Жыл бұрын
Sorry, but how can you justify that price. All the features don't negate the fact that it's a bicycle.
@readlangley56583 жыл бұрын
8000 for an ebike is insane. Buy two cheap motorcycles instead.
@Wildbikeslife3 жыл бұрын
That would be "Cheap Motorcycling" instead of "Bicycling" magazine 😆😂🤣
@AB-jc3gd2 жыл бұрын
replaces not my car.... no theft-safe trunk not enough miles, not enough space, not enough protection, safety. and i sleep sometimes in the car
@iamkron26313 жыл бұрын
That bike literally cost more than my car, its ridiculously over priced. why in the hell would this be a car replacement. the only reason why id ride a bike over a car is simply the cost and you can get a used car for cheaper. Not to mention wtf are you going to do when it rains like come now. i can get a electric motorcycle for cheaper.
@collina.47663 жыл бұрын
troll
@Wildbikeslife3 жыл бұрын
This bike is actually great in the rain! Comes with full fenders and handles quite well in the wet. You're right, though, it takes a bit of determination to bike everywhere. Some of us quite prefer biking whenever possible. The appeal of such a bike is that it will keep me out of the car. I really don't like driving. What can I say! I don't think I'm alone in that.
@TedCruzisfromCanada2 жыл бұрын
Gas, bad for the planet; Oil, bad for the planet; 4 new car tires, insurance, registration, adds up quickly....got it?
@korayozan95632 жыл бұрын
BUllshit . only slightly nearest thing to a car is e-motorbike. this can not be a replacement in anyway.