Cargo is in the eye of the beholder!

Cargo Bike make car go

Yes! Literally versus metaphorically.

Awesome!

Nice! How do you use it?

@@misaelramos83 thanks it’s a great bike. I commute 8mls per day to work and back.

There's a class 3 HSD now, and Yuba has come out with a class 3 Spicy Curry All Terrain model. Maybe a class 3 GSD is in the cards...

Would need bigger brakes

S00 LX rider here, it's nice and stable descending, heavy, so you want to keep it under control, but the braking is responsive and powerful (Magura 180mm hydraulic disc brakes). Make sure to mind service intervals and bed in new brake pads.

Ya he forgot to explain that it's a mid-drive motor. All of Bosch's motors are mid drive.

@@curtishohman6809 T Y

Yes according to the tern website

Great question! A lot of that price comes down to the build and capability. The Tern GSD has almost three times the range of the RadWagon 4, due to the dual batteries, and an extra 90 lbs of carrying capacity at 440 pounds. It's also foldable (to a point), which makes it able to be stored in smaller spaces than the RadWagon, which may be valuable to some users. Other branded components like the Bosch Cargo line motor system, Gates carbon belt drive, Rohloff geared hub, SunTour Fork and integrated lock also add up to it being a more expensive build.

The Radwagen is specifically marketed to cheap buyers. It has a hub drive motor, which sucks and has very little torque for climbing or carrying heavy loads. Trust me, hub drive motors are terrible for modern e-bikes. I built up my first one in 2010, and burned out two motors on my Yuba cargo bike. Mid drive has much more torque for practical use. I converted to mid drive and can now climb any hill carrying my dog and 10-bags of groceries. The Radwagen only really works for flat ground.

@@daisydela Mid drive sucks. Gearless hub drive is the way to go. Gearless hub drive wins every time because you get rid of almost all maintenance when using one. No brake maintenance and no drivetrain maintenance. My hub motor has been abused for 10 years now and it's still going strong. It's the bike around the hub motor that is falling apart and yet the motor keeps going. My hub motor has enough torque to flip you off your bike and it hasn't melted in 10s of thousands of commuter miles and many hundreds of ~50kg trailer hauling miles. The bub motor is just a cheapy $100 Chinese hub motor.

@@difflocktwo lol absolutely not

Rumor has it he's still working on them.

He is a good sipper. Give him 6 days.

Depends, the rad bike is a WW golf while this is a Porshe

I think a gsd r14 might last six times as long or get used six times as much... But as with bikes in general, the best e-cargo bike is the e-cargo bike you've got! Comparing S10 to the Radwagon is much more apples to apples though, and you've gotta hand it to RAD for nailing their price point and marketing and activating a huge segment of latent ebikers.

The Radwagen uses a hub drive motor and is marketed for buyers in a budget who won’t really use them for hills. Hub drive motors have very little torque. The Radwagen is great is you only ride in flat areas. Terrible is you live in hilly areas or want to carrry heavy loads. With a mid-drive I can literally climb a mountain with my dog and 10-bags of groceries. It’s hilarious the crazy loads I can carry uphill.

lmao *No you cant* , thats litterally what "pedal assist" (PAS) means, no assist unless you are pedaling.

They're great options for people in cities who may not have the space to keep a car, but can still handle much of the load.

because no-one's ever spent $8k on a car, right?

America has a car problem lol. Lacking funds for public transport and a ton of cheap used cars, which is great for low income families don't get me wrong but going by example from other countries most people would probably be happier with out a car if the roads and other means of transport were not working against that happening

My wife and I, we just ordered 2 r14's

@@ryansager6100 Nice, I own the GSDv2 S10 had it for a month. I can see myself getting an R14 probably a Gen3 or HSD if it comes out with a Rohloff. In hindsight I probably should have gone with an R14 upfront, looking at it the hub is well worth it.

That would be "Cheap Motorcycling" instead of "Bicycling" magazine 😆😂🤣

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This bike is actually great in the rain! Comes with full fenders and handles quite well in the wet. You're right, though, it takes a bit of determination to bike everywhere. Some of us quite prefer biking whenever possible. The appeal of such a bike is that it will keep me out of the car. I really don't like driving. What can I say! I don't think I'm alone in that.

Gas, bad for the planet; Oil, bad for the planet; 4 new car tires, insurance, registration, adds up quickly....got it?