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I'm sure someone has already mentioned this, but 3.175mm tools are really just 1/8" tools. They are by far the most common sized tool in the US for small CNCs. It looks like there's an ER collet on that spindle, which means you can almost certainly run 3mm tools too.

Great to see you reach out beyond 3D printing, a lot of us are general makers so this is exciting to watch ❤

For the hollow one, maybe you could bury the hollow end in transparent resin, and after it cures, mill the non-hollow shape again and polish it all together, making it look like it got the solid transparent material embedded in the wood despite it not fitting thru the holes?

They REALLY need to make a locking cable for the controller tablet. For such an expensive machine, this is a massive oversight

I have said this in another comment but that CNC tool did not stop spinning when it lost connection, that’s not too bad since the tool will only do stuff it if touches it (still shouldn’t be happening), but what if that happened with the laser (it probably does) then you have a laser that is stuck on and continuing to burn the piece and will either burn through the piece or start a fire. It is such a basic safety thing, if you lose connection from the controller, switch off the tool. I think Thomas should (safely) do some testing with this machine, especially the laser module, like have it laser engraving something and disconnect the controller and see what happens, if it just continues to have the laser on and burns the machine or work piece. This machine is missing so many safety features it shouldn’t be sold.

oh I really like that 3d printed adaptor/soft-jaws technique for holding the handle in the lathe!

The editing of keeping the workpiece in the center of frame for the timelapses was fantastic! Loved the look and it made watching the high speed machining much more legible.

Even though it's not perfect, you would learn soooooo much from using this and it can obviously produce some nice results within certain parameters. Good stuff! It's obviously driven you crazy though if you can see anything out of that LED window ;-)

Really surprised the wasn't on Stefan's channel. Love getting CNC content wherever I can, especially from one of the most respected KZfaqrs I know. Thanks Thomas, it was a great video and thanks for sharing it.

Thank you for doing this practical example of the rotary axis. I got a Snapmaker A250 in the Kickstarter campaign. I've considered the rotary axis, but the price is almost as much as I paid for the entire machine originally. I just don't feel that I have enough small projects for this tool to warrant spending the money.

3.175 mm is 1/8 inch, a very common imperial tool size.

I just wanted to comment on something you said in this video, A 3 jaw chuck does actualy center material properly but only if the stock is kind of round. you could also use the chuck itself to find your x center of rotation and the face of the chuck for y0. Z can be found by setting your zero in the center on top of your chuck and then moving it down half of the diameter you're measuring on. at the end of the day this is not realy a serious machine for production, but if you can make nice parts like this i would say its pretty good :) Edit: You can also align the 4th axis with the y axis with an indicator if you realy wanted to

3.175 mm is not a weird size when you use the right measurement scale. It is not metric, it is imperial. it is a 1/8" cutter.

Watched again after the latest Meltzone podcast episode just to fully experience the nerf intro. Awesome!

Awesome video. Always really cool to see complex CAM, especially on desktop! It's good to see just the simple, fun videos on this type of tech. Not much new going on in 3D printer world at the moment.

Espresso... ahh such a rabbit hole. I got into coffee and use my 3d printers to make all kinds of accessories for it, portafilter holders, bean cellar holders, etc, Like 3d printing or any maker hobbies you keep wanting to upgrade and improve. Thank you for a great video!

I have seen online that some people have installed linear rails under the bed to stop the bed deviation while the bit plunges.

I really enjoyed this video. Cool to see some content move beyond what you normally do.

16:09 Since you’re hogging off the material anyways, there should be a way you can accurately and precisely set the tool every time. Just turn and face a few mm until you have concentricity and a perpendicular face, measure the new diameter, and touch off.

Aligning the 4th axis on my hobby cnc machine was the bane of my existence. Your results look a lot better than mine 👀

This is the content I subscribe for :) Amazing work Tom! I spend a lot of time cnc'ing wood. I recommend using some down fluted (left hand) 3.175mm cutters. Cut will be super clean.

the last version, the carved one, looks very beautiful!!!

Looking forward to this one, Tom!

Yummy!!!!! That espresso looked GOOOD! oh the tamper was swell, but that espresso would just hit the spot right now!

thanks 4 showing!! oh look, real snappy! congrats! cheers!🥳

This machine is a cool idea for someone like me, with a really tiny apartment. But it's way too expensive considering that it doesn't do any one task well. The rotary axis alone is like $600 dollars! At the very least, there shouldn't be that much run out in the live center. And the air purifier for laser cutting is another $500. I really feel like machine tools are the kind of thing where compromise tools really give compromise performance, and it's better to have single purpose tools that do their task well. I think it would make a lot more sense to have a 3D printer and use that to make a PrintNC CNC machine.

Loved the cinematic intro in the beginning!

I'm hoping you'll get the Artisan to check out, though with all the issues currently on shipping, I can see the wait. Huge base and finally a quick swap on modules

Great work on the intro!

3.175mm is US 1/8", so those are US-sized end mills.

Looking pretty good. :) I actually have a multi-pass rotary guide on snapmaker's forum. Luban IS still trash, but for something like this, it would have sufficed. The latest guide I did was for using the rotary and laser, making it fully automated with Lightburn. Though, I DO have more room to work with, having the A350. I think once you work it out, the snapmaker could really boost your projects. It's not a perfect machine, but the community has really been making it more robust (there's rigidity upgrades done on the forum including strapping linear rails to the Y axis).

James Hoffmann & Thomas both releasing videos this morning 🔥

Nice thanks Tom

is there even a good CAM out there that supports 4 or 3+1 axis for free? fusion removed it from the free plan

Nice video Thomas. 3.175 isn't a weird size it is in imperial a 1/8 inch

I am the head machinist at the company I work for. I am all for people getting into CNC, but these open framed rotating cutters where people won't be as cautious as you are and try cutting in the air first is a dangerous prospect. With CNC machining, things can become projectiles VERY quickly. Tool selection (tool geometry), tool quality, part rigidity, work clamping quality and depth, rpm, feedrate, toolpath, supported G codes, supported M codes, (and discrepancies between what your output and what is supported within a gcode config file), spindle runout, stock runout, material properties and so much more. There are so many variables that have the potential of making CNC machining VERY dangerous for uninformed. I don't have much of a problem with people trying to learn about it, but be freaking careful and ALWAYS run the simulation and always run in air first (an inch or so above the part, higher than it'll ever touch the part) no-one is perfect even at my level mistakes happen. We have bullet proof impact resistant enclosures on all industrial CNC equipment, these hobbyist machines don't. I think a legitimate safety video is a good idea about the very real dangers that are present with these types of machines, because if it helps one person, it's worth it. That being said, I love to see CNC machining tools coming down in price so much, I think a good CNC lathe with live tooling with an enclosure would be a great product for hobbyists that want a bit more than a hobbyist machine. CNC lathes with their canned cycles make hand programming for roughing quite a bit easier than milling because milling with these adaptive strategies can easily get into the thousands of lines of code area. And ALWAYS look at the gcode before you run the program, always check it, I check it line by line EVERY time. Know what it's doing, know what to expect, know the code! I like prices coming down with machines like this, but only if safety isn't a compromise, and I think all of these machines, 3D printers included, deserve enclosures. Software is created by humans, therefore mistakes are ALWAYS possible, even at Autodesk's level. Be careful! You're getting into an industry that has an apprenticeship and a lifetime of best habits passed down from the previous generation of machinists that prevent injury. Hobbyists don't know any of that. Make a video for yourself if you had no manufacturing or cam knowledge. 🙏 Have fun and stay safe. I'm thinking of releasing something for pre-order this year.

I don't appreciate thee side eye doggy! @5:46. LOL

Great result for the setup. Hey what fusion360 license did you use to get access to 3+1 axis machining ?

Great video 👍

I love the Snapmaker!

Nice Gaggia and grinder Stephan! You are an espresso pro! Loved the video.

I have the 350mm size snap maker 2.0 and it's a love hate relationship. The 10 watt laser is what I use the most now

nice project!

The next step in the espresso rabbit hole is to install Gaggiuino. You'll get much better results with lighter roasts, and besides, it is a fun project.

Thanks Thomas for your great video. I was thinking about buying Snapmaker with the rotary axis but after seeing this I will definitely not buying it anymore. There is so many other options what are cheaper and better for the cutting size.

What a fantastic video

Glad you got the Gagia, the closet thing to an open source espresso machine out there.

Tom, more cam and CNC videos!

Do you have the extra machining package on fusion360 for the 4th axis? I have been trying to find it.

So many hobbies colliding here its awesome lol

Very Cool!

The nerf intros are awesome , very cool

Why am I not surprised you got into espresso as a hobby. Saaame. xd

Thanks for taking care of breville folks.. I think you need to make a followup on how you modeled the second one.. As a more Fusion360 walk through

Epic Tune Tamper.

Did you have to upgrade your fusion license? I'm not seeing some of the multi-axis features in Fusion 360 on my personal license

unrelated to this vid but my printer an elegoo neptune 3 has a problem where when its heating up filament oozes out of the nozzle and i cant figure out why i dont know if its the extruder gears or the bowden tubes or if its the filament its self but i tried 3 brands of filament and they all reacted the same oozing out of the nozzle even at temps of 170c

Will you be reviewing the snapmaker artisan when that comes out?

Do you mind to share the stl for any of the file that you machined?I would like to see how fast i can do it on my 3axis cnc. Thnak you.

Hi @MadeWithLayers, I have the fusion 360 manufacturing extensions, however, keep getting errors like "Error: Direction is not supported for machine configuration.". Are you able to share how you set up the machine in Fusion 360 / share a couple of screenshots? Would be very helpful for us hobbyists. Thanks

Tomas, you gotta get some good latte mugs next. ;-)

hehehe, puppers. this looks like a fun project! cant wait to see it!

The Snapmaker looks so incredibly high quality and sturdy in its construction and yet it seems so lacking and missing crucial stuff in all of its use cases.

I'd put a much longer base plate to move the spindel for rotation out of build zone

I've always wondered about diy stabilized wood, like doing the cnc up to the rough pass or second to final pass, submerging in 2 part resin, and vacuum chambering it to make the resin soak in, then doing final pass.

can you use the free version of fusion 360 for the 4th axis or do you need the licensed version for that feature?

My post processing keeps failing to post, I’m using the snapmaker b axis post processing file and configured the machine settings to have a 4th axis (B) … am I’m missing something? 🤔 it’s driving me crazy

I have the same Gaggia :) the dimmer switch mod is a MUST!

Nice outro! "Couldn't resist" means "Engineer's Delight"! So, is there an entry-level or DIY 4-axis machine you WOULD recommend? Something like a Voron for CNC subtractive machining folks?

Nice. How long did it take to mill/grind up the second one? I guess if you prepare the stock with the basic form in the normal mill you can safe a bunch of time too?

I would argue that the rotary axis should not be within the work volume, a single mistake when creating the tool paths or not zeroing it right and you are cutting into the rotary axis, you are cutting into a powered motor and probably a mechanism too, all that should be outside of the work volume. It should be impossible to cut into the motor. The snap maker is good in concept but it isn’t well executed I don’t think. The amount of time to change tool heads is annoying, it doesn’t seem to have an enclosure or guard for the laser mode, it would work better as a printer with an enclosure too and you can cut right into the rotary axis in the CNC mode and it is very wobbly. Very cool idea, very bad execution. Edit: more things wrong with it is obviously the cable coming out but even worse, it loses connection but the tool keeps spinning and doesn’t seem to have an E-stop, so the only way to stop it then would be to unplug it. It could really do with some protection from the laser. A basic laser proof enclosure would help with safety with the laser, it would help with 3D printing and it would contain the dust and chips and anything breaking with the CNC mode. Since this is designed to be a desktop machine, it really should have an enclosure. It is missing really basic things like a way to measure the tool length, which is something that is really easy to do and could also be used in the 3d printing and laser modes as well. Overall it is a good concept poorly executed, it doesn’t seem to do any of its features particularly well and has as much safety as a random no brand chinese laser cutter or CNC machine all for a very high price tag. Even just a few basic things like an enclosure and obvious E-stop and making sure it can’t cut into its rotary axis motor or that the tool stops if it loses connection, would make it so much safer. You saw how the CNC tool didn’t stop spinning when it lost connection, now that isn’t too bad since the tool won’t do anything unless it moves but what if that was the laser? It loses connection so the laser just stays on? Burning through the piece and into the machine? Or burning the piece and starting a fire? It is a massive failure in the safety department.

I wish to have so much will like this machine has in moving parts.

That intro shot looks sweet. Did you use a neural radiance field to do it?

Coffee Motta! I start to belive that you know more of coffee than 3d printing. :-) Excellent choice!

Sorry for the unrelated question, but have you looked into making a video about one of those 4- or 5-axis 3D printers?

Better title: "Stubborn hero makes beautiful hardwood handle using only a piece of crap"

i had a idea for a warming slip roller for resin bottles

You hand planed cumaru? Must've been a wild (grain) experience.

Hi Thomas, you should have mentioned how much costs the Fusion 360 "Machining extension" which is necessary to be installed for the rotary strategies you've shown in this video... Nevertheless the outcome is really cool for this tiny CNC. Thanks 💪

Tom, love this non-3d printer video. It's at the same high standards as the rest of your videos.

More 4 Axis CNC Machining please.

Ich liebe die Niche Zero!

I have been tempted to consider a multi-function 3D printer and CNC but I feel multi-function machines may perform one function well, but do not perform all functions well. You managed to get some nice looking parts. The first part would have been easier and perhaps faster to create with hand tools. Spokeshaves would be fast on this wood, looks like a species of the mahogany family. Thanks for the video. Dave.

Snapmaker had to use those slow linear modules because of the cnc feature. That makes it a slow, heavy 3d printer and laser engraver. Wish they would have made the cnc more usable at least. Are there any other hobby level cnc mills that work better for a similar price? I've got the snapmaker, but glad I didn't shell out for the rotary module.

You really dont need the tailstock for a piece this small :). The wood is more than strong enough, and it kinda needs to be for the application!

I like this Thomas, I would try to make that machine more rigid are we going to see it more in the future? Maybe moding it?

Thomas what lathe did you use for turning the aluminum plug? There are so many out there.

I see a different channel now when I search for you with Tom 3d printing. Gonna link it in a reply in case the link is scrubbed.

go you do something with cnc-milling ?? like onefinity

Just to look at the wood from the start, is my guess it's Brazilian Walnut (AKA Ipe "E-pay"). But that's just a guess. Will find out during this video. If he states what it is. On a side note: Brazilian Walnut, is extra strong for a hard wood. And is hard to work with. I have tried drilling into it before, and it was quite the task, for it clogs the drill bit quicly, and if you don't clean it every quarter inch, it will just heat up the bit and cause it to break. Gave some to a person who did some wood working, and it damaged his tools, trying to work with it. Real nice hard wood. Not always nice to work with.

i bet with that fancy lathe you have, you could make a nicer live center. Nice work, and welcome to the coffee elitist club. Now that you have that lovely machine and grinder, you should think about a home roaster.

What they should be using is an old type RS232 connector to hold the cable to the machine.

P.S. You need a Gaggia sponsorship :)

I enjoyed this video. I don't do any machining but I find it interesting (This Old Tony is mesmerizing). Obviously you have more skills than 3d printing. You should do more multidisciplinary stuff.

This should be much better with the artisan. As soon as I receive my rotary thingy I will try something like that. If you want I can send you the video.

Thomas you needed to use a 2 flute ball end mill that is uncoated but polished. You would have had far better surface finish.

A jack of all trades, is master of none. That's the thing with these devices. But it's fun and useful for hobby stuff. Also, is that little metal protrusion next to the usb-c connector a 'cable tie-down point' perhaps?

how are you gonig to drop that last one on us at the end and then sign off :O

How did you get fusion 360 to work with the rotary module?