Who has tried my capture? What do you think?

I prefered B as it was a touch more open sounding, and assumed that was the real amp :) Man we have it good these days

Cheers for all your captures. Certainly getting a lot of thumbs up

Awesome! Thanks very much for doing this and providing the free capture.🙏 This time I listened on small monitors and it wasn't until you played the isolated versions that I could hear the slightest bit of "peach fuzz" on the highs of the real amp. In a mix I think it would be impossible. It is so close now that I think I have to do my own blind A/B shootout in Foobar with the isolated versions to make sure I'm not just fooling myself. Capturing just the amp alone (not cabinet) is a good choice as well. I have already downloaded and checked out your capture and it sounds great! 👍 Providing free captures of your amazing amp collection I think is a great way to promote your channel. I'd be willing to pay for a more extensive set of captures (gain levels, EQ variations), but only from someone that I know has a great ear and knows what they are doing. Not sure if you plan on doing that, but either way...keep up the great work!

This may be the closest one yet. I continued the blind listen during the isolated reveal, not looking at the screen. I could tell you switched, but there was nothing to tell them apart after hearing the cut. Incredible. Also, that riff was like a charging elephant. Damn.

Bought this software after watching your previous videos, thanks again for sharing another capture

Sounds great!! I could actually tell the difference this one time.. although very close. The tonex model has a particular frequency poking out. Great job... More please🤓

Thanks for including the capture. I dont think many people know that if you have the free ToneX you cant use any captures unless you important them or pay for the full version. ToneX gets insane close though. The only thing that is really noticeable is how it treats the mids, and then again it isnt "bad" per say. It doesnt cook the high end like some other modelers do.

Some seriously thick tones! Color Me impressed!

My guess is that B is the real 6505, and A is the Tonex capture. B sounded smoother and "thicker", while A had a prominent mid-hump, which I tend to associate with amp sims. Also the compression on the palm mutes and single notes sounded a bit more natural on B, although I could just be imagining that. (EDIT: Well I was totally wrong, lmaoooo. Just goes to show how close this technology has gotten. Amplitube still sounds like garbage though, and I'll always hold that against IK.)

Amazing bro! I have been buying amps because they just sound so good. However these tonex tones are scary good! This one is almost exact and 99.999% of people who aren't producers etc wouldn't know any difference, just that it sounds awesome. I have to try out ToneX soon!

Like this guys presentations

Very close indeed! Tonex is certainly a superb capturing tool. Curious how it handles things like harmonically rich amp distortion? Something like a Soldano SLO or Marshall DSL, or the Rev G dual recs playing some pinch harmonics and such. There's where I find a lot of sims and captures just can't do the real amp justice. And awesome riffing as usual!

Thanks for sharing your capture. Could you describe more detail in IR using and patch in DAW if possible? Cause when I tried previous two captures I didn't manage to get as youtube :(.

I've been using tonex preamp models into power amp/amp FX return and a real cab. It works great but there are only a few pure preamp captures so far. I'd love if more people would capture some amps from their FX sends...

I think A. Tonex and B 6505. Both sound awesome. I'm listening on crappy computer speakers and they still sound sick!

This guy got some mean ass riff’s!!!

B sounded a bit more present in the upper midrange, but there was no telling which was the actual amp. VERY impressive. \,,/

have you tried profiling the miked cab instead of the amp head?? I did read some comments about being more accurate than just profiling the head. Great video by the way, very very close, but this time I think I heard a little difference.

Hey Jon, for your next ToneX challenge, I would like to hear what a long, drawn out, ringing chord sounds like. I find that it's easier for high gain modelers to emulate aggressive, fully pushed riffs. But when you hit a slightly complex chord, such as a major chord, and let it ring out, then that usually reveals some kind of "weakness" or artefact in the modelled sound that sounds different from the original amp.

That is awesome.In the mix no difference at all.And difference is minimal and not important at this stage.

Sounds very close to the real amp !! Hope can share a captrue for EVH 5150 III EL34 50W version soon!!!

perfect simulation

It was an easy guess, even on tablet speakers... but sounds def great and usable, esp for the covenience and the price

I was completely wrong! I personally like B better and thought it was the real amp. Are you using this with Amplitube 5 also? I have the SE version and thinking about getting the full version. I really love the cab section in it how you can change each speaker out and how you can move the mics around. The amps sound great too.

Didn’t get to the end yet but I like the after taste of A over B

I just have a set of krk g5 underneath my monitor for guitar playback. I noticed the tonex sounded slightly wider with a little more top end. But very identical. *he did mention he added a little more gain and presence so thats probably what I heard.

They are indeed pretty close. I will say though that the real 5150 is just a hair darker in the mids. That's just being super picky though because if someone were to listen through monitors or regular headphones (not sutdio grade), they probably wouldn't notice a thing, especially if it's in a full mix and not specifically looking to compare two seperate tones. Nicely done, sir.

Thinking I need to get tonex, this AB is so ridiculously close, had absolutely no clue which was the real amp in a mix

Hey Jon, how do you find the sound quality of the Tonex capture box? Is it on par with say a radial, palmer or two notes? thanks as always.

So how do youget good levels without feedback? I try to capture my amps with the Tonex capture and can never get good levels without feedback.

Jon any chance I can ask you to email me the preset? I’m afraid I have the lower level tonex and have already reached my preset download limit 😮 If its not much trouble. Thanks! and awesome video as usual!!!

Paused at 06:30. I could hear a slight difference in the (lower) mids, A sounding ever so slightly fuller there and B seems to have just a tiny bit less gain. But honestly extremely hard to tell apart in a full mix. I think if we did a full blind test without getting indication at what point exactly the sound changes it would be near impossible to nail it down. I will guess that A is the amp and B the tonex.

Would you make a capture comparison using a real cab and mic?

The mids in A and low end in B made it easy to tell which was what. Still, it wasn't a one sounds better than the other. Just one had more low end and the other was more mid forward. I personally dial my amps in with more mids than most, so I would have gladly used A over B in a mix.

Remarkable, I couldn't tell the difference and I have High end Adam A7X monitors. But I doubt I could hear a difference even using my Ultimate ears in ears.

Loving Tonex. Such a powerful Plugin. Question... I know you are an IR guy. BUT have you considered selling Tonex presets? Love your tones and you have quite the amp collection. Also having a harder time getting great Clean and Edge of breakup captures on Tone net.

Same here, the real one sounds just a tad clearer in the high end, but in the mix it was impossible to hear

One question: did you use some kind of booster before the preamp (like overdrive or EQ pedal)? If so is that boost an integral part of capture or has to be run before tonex input? I'm considering getting a tonex pedal, but that's a shame that even though tonex can also capture stomp boxes, the tonex pedal can't run them together with an amp model. (Although I suppose they can be captured together as one piece, that's why I'm asking)

In the mix I could tell which one is which. The low end of tonex was less tight and muddy. Imagine how bad thing are when I buy a commercial pack and I have to add OD and input gain to make it sound tight.

Are those captures advanced training? And please do some more

commenting to feed the algorithm

A had a touch more low end and B seemed a bit brighter to me, writing before moving on any further, I preferred A.

listening on beyerdynamics dt880 pro and to me B sounds a little bit bigger and better, so i'd be veeery surprised and impressed if that's tonex. it's very close though, so i'm still very impressed no matter what.

Jon, can you do a drum programming tutorial pleeeeeeease! 🙏👀

como posso fazer o download

yes always that 10 percent like transient presence its the same using real drums recordings too samples the trained ear can hear it, took me years for the ears to suss out compression types fet opto vca mu and the best place for them, but we are so lucky today full studios in a laptop, open goal :) go create

Again, impossible to make any difference for me! Thank you and happy new year.

can you make Ironball profile? That would be unique!

can't hear any difference with a basic 2.1 pc kit. thx for the preset it will be in fav in my collection =)

The irony! :)

I bought one of them storage racks like you got behind, for my amplifier heads.. they are absolutely garbage, way too flimsy are yours fixed to the wall?

I thought the real amp was B, A sounded flatter to me - I'm happy to be wrong though, pleasantly surprised by the Tonex in this demo.

I got it right and I could defo tell what the real amp was. But it was very close again.

Friend, where can I get your profile?

I like B :-) it has more dynamic, presence and middle range than A. A sounds more flat to my ears . Nooo B is the Tonex? You added magic to it for sure ;-)

They were very close! A bit more highs on A and also the one I liked slightly better. But sooo close in tone. Now, let us see which one was which...

Technology today is INSANE.

Wow, I preffered B. Gamechanger.

Close enough but still a difference we can easily hear

Do any of us peons need to own amps anymore? I’m thinking of selling most of mine and just keeping one or two favorites that make for great pedal platforms. Man that’s so freaking close. Wow.

I got it the wrong way around. I actually thought the Tonex sounded better in the mix than the real amp!

For recording both good,, Everyone is splitting hair with this shit getting out of control. Still cool to watch

Why you use "incl. free capture" on title if you removed the links ?

The B more 3d for me 😅

where is preset ????

I liked the capture better, more low end.

Please do your fireball

I could hear the difference in isolated tracks, but this time I absolutely didn't care about it, because it the mix it sounded 99 % the same.

They both sound great but idk about them being super close. The amp cuts better because of the extra content in the higher frequencies

Little more gain and compression on the real amp but that's about it.

2:05 blasphemy haha

Tonex lacks some of the air and top end but tonally they're very close.

I heard A is real deal in a second. Amp sims always sound darker and saturate less. Other then that very nice and very close as you said.

IMO A should be the real amp

B cuts off the chunk chunk dead stops faster than A.

Soo so close, the real amp has more.hifh end sizzle but the tone and character is captured definitely

It's almost unnoticeable in terms of tone but it could be even closer to the amplifier in its "gain texture", to be honest. I hope this can be improved.

B its the real...

In the mix, you can barely tell a difference and to me, that's where it matters most.

i thought B is the real one.

The Tonex capture always sounds like there's "bad" compression on certain parts of the EQ. Bad being relative of course.

I'm very bad at this, but I guessed right again. The capture is darker and has less gain but I THINK it's close enough that with a little tweaking you'd never be able to tell the difference.

Real Amp is B i'd say, a little bit more fuller, with more body

i heard the difference only when i was listening carefully and paying a lot of attention. Then I heard that A was a bit more "bloomy", and B was more 'present' in the high-mids and highs. That was a giveaway for me that B is a capture. (which is interesting as most people says things like 'real amps have a little more top end sizzle going on', 'captures/sims lack top end' etc. I usually can tell the sim/capture by the more present and fizzy top end, not the lack of top end... my ears are weird probably)

You can hear that in the isolated test the Tonex is missing some of that high's magic that comes from a real amp. It sort of feel more "2d". But in the mix it was impossible to tell which sounded real.

Initially, I didn't hear any difference. Then I started hearing a little more clarity/presence in the top end of A, and a little less clarity of the bottom end of B. Very close indeed.

B

the Tonex has a tale-tale, un-natural mid boost and that "deadness" that sims give. The 6505 has that full spectrum alive-vibe that only an actual amp and cab can give.

Just like before on the Mesa, it's really close, but the real amp sounds more open/bigger, I like the real amp better, but it's not a huge difference.

A is little better for me

the real peavey 6505 wins! got the high gain sizzle and sag that you can tell from a mile away! its the main thing that differentiates digital captures and the real thing!

tonex sounds better same with kemper

Real amp always better.

A: peavey 6505, better, fuller and open sound!