Can You Trust God in Your Pain? Job 1:1-12

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Desiring God

Desiring God

5 жыл бұрын

Look at the Book
Teacher: John Piper
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@jordenthe13thdisciple97
@jordenthe13thdisciple97 5 жыл бұрын
Blessed is the poor and suffering the reward awaiting them who are faithful is great!
@thehardertheyfall2702
@thehardertheyfall2702 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you but tell the 90 percent of the body of Christ that. Because those were the main one's that rejected me and pushed me away from the faith➡💯
@jordenthe13thdisciple97
@jordenthe13thdisciple97 5 жыл бұрын
@@thehardertheyfall2702 God is close to those who are broken hearted and even when God's own people have rejected you God will be faithful. I am sorry for how the Church has hurt you but be reassured in the fact of God's love especially for you.
@thehardertheyfall2702
@thehardertheyfall2702 5 жыл бұрын
@@jordenthe13thdisciple97 Thank you i appreciated that 💗🙏🏼
@thehardertheyfall2702
@thehardertheyfall2702 5 жыл бұрын
@@jordenthe13thdisciple97 I was wondering if you could help me out. I live off my paypal account and i only have 2$ left Can you help me please or maybe make a video about me?
@thehardertheyfall2702
@thehardertheyfall2702 5 жыл бұрын
@@jordenthe13thdisciple97 I didn't get no response?
@kathleenwharton2139
@kathleenwharton2139 5 жыл бұрын
I was born into a church in which the Heirarchy of titled men Ruled..I became physically ill from Stress. Jesus Saved me from this..but it took a long time and much Teaching to Rescue me from the condemnation given me by these Men. The More I Follow Jesus..the healthier I become. If I digress I get ill again. And I have Many "Jobs Friends" who still condemn me for Following Jesus and HIS Gospel. One of the best to condemn..Marty Blackham..on this site. He has been good adversary as Jesus Has tested my Strength. Thank you..Marty! For giving me opportunity to prove Loyalty to My Savior! I Seek Jesus. I No longer listen to the opinions of Men!
@dianjohnson1
@dianjohnson1 5 жыл бұрын
Super timely! Thank you Pastor John. I look forward to this. I’m struggling, a lot of it due to my poor decisions 🙄🤦🏾‍♀️. Lord have mercy on me! The book of Job is one that confirms God’s sovereignty over all and I thank God for that.
@timsharpe6652
@timsharpe6652 5 жыл бұрын
Yep I have made real bad decisions and I almost feel like I'm paying / well being disciplined quite hard for these
@jamesramelli6868
@jamesramelli6868 5 жыл бұрын
@@timsharpe6652Take comfort, the Lord has paid for our sins. Don't beat yourself up. Rejoice in your salvation :) I am also in the same boat!
@yzmaronmione
@yzmaronmione 4 жыл бұрын
I feel the same. He is sovereign over everything. It is for his glory.
@timsharpe6652
@timsharpe6652 4 жыл бұрын
@Kayla Nguyen right. Watching this podcast today. John Piper one again. About sexual sin. It's got be very concerned right now
@kathleenwharton2139
@kathleenwharton2139 5 жыл бұрын
Job was trying to establish his own righteousness. God let him be Tested..until he came Face to Face with God. When Job showed Sufficient Humility..God Restored and Redeemed him. We are Here to Do "Gods Will." I learned this..as Job did..as I was listening to men..doing what they said..instead of Seeking Jesus and following HIS Gospel..and not the opinions of Men. Hard lesson learned! But Worth it!
@trafficjon400
@trafficjon400 4 жыл бұрын
today 2000 years later we come face to face with NOTHING . But believing this hapened 2000 years ago
@jewishbride5010
@jewishbride5010 2 жыл бұрын
I bind oneself to steadfastness in love, faith and obedience for myself, my family, friends, colleagues, neighbours, acquintances, opponents and the body of Christ in accordance with james 5:10-11, job 1:1-12, 2 corinthians 6:14-18, while loosening myself of every unequal yoke and common share with those lacking steadfastness in love, faith and obedience, in the name and blood of Jesus Christ, amen and hallelujah!
@Kel_Rod
@Kel_Rod 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this teaching.
@mpumi6830
@mpumi6830 4 жыл бұрын
Praise God for you pastor John.
@MICVIVONETO
@MICVIVONETO 4 жыл бұрын
Olá sou do Brasil e ouço seus áudios com muita atenção, gosto muito desses estudos com os textos bíblicos, inglês para mim é bem complicado mas ouço com paciência e dedicação para entender as mensagens, Deus abençoe o senhor
@harisonfekadu
@harisonfekadu 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@trafficjon400
@trafficjon400 4 жыл бұрын
every body knows what Job went through 2000 years ago. but they have to believe Job met God after every horrible thing happened. now today we go through this with nothing witch is down right insane. Bless Grace
@VglGun
@VglGun 5 жыл бұрын
Amen.
@renfaver
@renfaver 5 жыл бұрын
I really hope the Job series continues!
@trafficjon400
@trafficjon400 4 жыл бұрын
its fun ha
@ihavetubes
@ihavetubes 5 жыл бұрын
great video
@carladevani5703
@carladevani5703 5 жыл бұрын
Just begin this series and already so excited. Thank you Pastor John! Please please continue the study, if it's possible for all the book in bible this way. God bless you!
@trafficjon400
@trafficjon400 4 жыл бұрын
in what way all this suffering ecite you.
@trafficjon400
@trafficjon400 4 жыл бұрын
excite you. i find it agonizing .
@carladevani5703
@carladevani5703 4 жыл бұрын
It is amazing to know that even in all the suffering, God is in control. Satan meant it for bad, but God meant it for good.
@gordonmarshall3218
@gordonmarshall3218 4 жыл бұрын
Until you are sifted by Satan and the pain is beyond words you can't understand. I experienced what job went through and I believe more severe.
@MiMediaNews
@MiMediaNews 5 жыл бұрын
nice video
@xrhaixrhai1221
@xrhaixrhai1221 5 жыл бұрын
What kind of app is this?
@ipodrogify
@ipodrogify 5 жыл бұрын
This looks like the opposite of The rich young ruler. Both had many possessions. The rich young ruler trusted in the creation (money) over the Creator (God). Job trusted in the Giver of the gifts.
@relbabydoll70
@relbabydoll70 5 жыл бұрын
Something within in me says God doesn't want us sick, and i think it's the Holy Spirit. "By His stripes we WERE healed." Look at Kenneth Hagin. Look at Jesus ministry. Job admitted that the very thing he feared would come true did indeed come true. He blamed God for what happened to Him but it was the devil who did it. Yes, God allowed it. Why? To display His sovereignty, and to prove Job wouldn't deny or curse Him even when the Lord, who gives, also took away. It also shows "no man is righteous, no not one", now our righteousness is in Christ alone, and we now have a BETTER covenant than Job did. We ALL deserve punishment, even Job did too. Today, if we aren't protected by God, its because we believe Satan's lies and don't stand on the truth, God's WORD, believe it or apply it to our lives. The battle is in our minds and that's where the devil either wins or loses.
@trafficjon400
@trafficjon400 4 жыл бұрын
the more people say this the more sick they get. God bless
@trafficjon400
@trafficjon400 4 жыл бұрын
and the ones who pray and beg God in jesus name every day what do they get.
@lukewagner8871
@lukewagner8871 5 жыл бұрын
Hebrews 3:8-11 KJVS [8] Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness: [9] When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my works forty years. [10] Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways. [11] So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest. The fruit of the Spirit, fruit of righteousness is grown in the soil of suffering and affliction. 1 Peter 4:1-2,12-13 KJVS [1] Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin; [2] That he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh to the lusts of men, but to the will of God. [12] Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you: [13] But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy. www.justifiedfreely.com/?p=1107
@trafficjon400
@trafficjon400 4 жыл бұрын
its suffering unberable today will harden all hearts. it seems.
@speak-thetruth
@speak-thetruth 5 жыл бұрын
How can I get all lecuters please?
@davidyonwookchung2647
@davidyonwookchung2647 5 жыл бұрын
What is the app that is being used here?
@zabdielfranciscozunigavargas
@zabdielfranciscozunigavargas 5 ай бұрын
maybe is "logos"
@thehardertheyfall2702
@thehardertheyfall2702 5 жыл бұрын
Can I? Since I'm homeless and I'm trying to Repent from Anger
@jordenthe13thdisciple97
@jordenthe13thdisciple97 5 жыл бұрын
only you can decide that
@sg-hunter
@sg-hunter 5 жыл бұрын
I promise there are worse fates than being homeless. You could be an extremely wealthy CEO who treats people like garbage and loses their soul to greed and hatred and apathy. Please remember this is a battle of good and evil. I will pray for you my sister in christ. I promise.
@thehardertheyfall2702
@thehardertheyfall2702 5 жыл бұрын
@@sg-hunter Usually i don't tell them the body of Christ my business anymore because i usually get looked down upon but i don't care anymore.
@jordenthe13thdisciple97
@jordenthe13thdisciple97 5 жыл бұрын
@@thehardertheyfall2702 the joy in salvation always helps me keep perspective of God's goodness hope that you can find the same peace.
@Perfectlyradiant_
@Perfectlyradiant_ 5 жыл бұрын
I’m not quite sure your question? But you can be forgiven, saved and going through testing as well as anyone else. You aren’t less loved than anybody else. He sees and loves you.
@benitojohngenitojr.5608
@benitojohngenitojr.5608 4 жыл бұрын
JOB is Already enjoying Eternal Good Lifes in HEAVEN and There is No need to Remember His Suffering During His Time.It is the Serpent Devil Who Made Him to Suffer, and Not the LORD GODFATHER in Christ.
@gfxb3177
@gfxb3177 5 жыл бұрын
Did john piper just say "because he's batman!"?
@timsharpe6652
@timsharpe6652 5 жыл бұрын
?
@fineyphilip5262
@fineyphilip5262 3 жыл бұрын
@ 5:17 “…This man is not going to be hurt because he’s a BAD MAN or that he has failed.”
@gregorypaul6363
@gregorypaul6363 4 жыл бұрын
Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them. Job 1 v 6 And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it. Job 1 v 7 And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil? Job 1 v 8 But put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face. Job 1 v 11 That’s very much sounds like a bunch of friends gathering together, and laughingly trying to figure out what’s next. What was behind that load of nonsense in reality? Talking about big party of sons of God in heaven, that certainly echoes a lot more in the New Testament, via another one we’re yet to decipher clearly who he really is, with epithets of confusion flowing out of his mouth. The sons of God, and the only son of God, what is the difference between them? How does God go about having many sons, to having just one and only one? Do they die? They shift their paternity to some one else? What really happens, what and who to believe? Some one who got kicked out of heaven for plotting to topple God could be walking so freely in heaven, and more importantly in the presence of the very one he sought to sink, must tell you a lot about the kind of freedom they have up there. Not only that, he was in direct contact with God himself to even a warrant to dismantle Job’s life, and throughout the whole debacle, he was back and forth between heaven and earth, but only appeared to have gone away at the very end of Job’s plague. The only time we heard about his resurgence was when his brother Jesus comes at the very stage of his ministry. You might wonder, why was he being off the stage for so long, and why what was seemingly look like a picnic party between him and his appeaser, God, to destroy Job even took place, and what was the end result of a their adventure? We only can surmise from what comes out of Jesus’s mouth following an assumption that was being made of him being possessed by the second behind Satan to have performed the many miracles he’s been able to , where he replied that the son of light wouldn’t have been to come, if the son of darkness hasn’t been put away. There, we assume these idiots’s attempts to topple God wasn’t sufficient enough to tie them down somewhere, but they have had to destroy so many lives, to finally be put under arrest. If Jesus was correct, we can assume that the spectacle of Calvary, might not have been happening, without those bigger idiots being absent. That, too, is nonsense, since his apparition with Jesus, didn’t sound like they enemies at all. It was just offer made to Jesus that he knows was nonsense, since both of them must have been in heaven, and having been that Satan got kicked out of heaven, it certainly would be dumb on the part of Jesus to believe that Satan owns anything of everything he was offering him. Furthermore, that also negates Jesus’s claim of being God himself, by referring to God as the only one before whom one has to bow down. In truth, Jesus condemns himself there by his claim further down the line that he has either been given by God the right to be worshipped by humanity, or he is himself the creator of the universe that deserves our praises. Now, what to believe or who to believe becomes a reality that no one could categorically refute. Since we are being inundated with loads of nonsense, said to be divine , with mountains of confusions , we left to only wonder who in reality God is as it relates to his heavenly population of angels or devils? Do they bother fearing him, and if they defy his order, why does that have to fall back us , here on earth, who have nothing to do with their nonsense in heaven? Regardless of your beliefs, social ranks, race, ethnicity and more, you certainly can’t help yourself to rebuke the nonsense of being seen as a dumping ground for anything the so-called angels or devils of God decide to do, for which, we’re totally innocent, and God has to be dancing around and about, refusing to face them head on for their crude stupidity. In the contrary, when God has to deal with us, he just acts. Be it the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, or the inundation of the whole world in the days of Noah, and more , God just did without having to transplant them in heaven to persecute any angels or devils up there. Why should we be trampled by flood of angels or demons dumped down from heaven for their actions up there? Some might say where is this written in the Bible, let’s answer a question by another, why did Satan tell God would happen if Job were to be stripped off his wealth, and finally if his life were to be endangered? Put that in the same line with the nonsense that says, you will be persecuted to the door of heaven, by who and for what? Then, you will get the senseless gimmicks that takes in the garden of Eden, passing to the garden of Gethsemane, all the way to the cross. Think of those whose lives have been lost for Jesus as well as those who killed and are eager to destroy others, presumably because of their faith, when either side seems to have been lied to? If you doubt, then, how many God there is? Why should God seek to create discord amongst us that he himself creates? But, where is he to allow all that nonsense to be taking place under his nose in a world that he creates? He is being drugged, or does he love his kids of heaven way too much that it doesn’t matter what they do in his eyes? I assume the latter to be true, and we hope to get clarification on some the ridiculous stuff that happens under the very name of God by his so-called angels and messiah. It very much like they feel emboldened to do even more, and I wonder if God is not being dead and replaced by his shadow, or else, he must be ashamed of himself. He worships his angels goddam too much, and his personality must have gone down the drain somewhere.
@AmB39
@AmB39 5 жыл бұрын
I’m really struggling with God being loving and kind. This just seems awful. I love good and hate evil but I’m genuinely struggling with understanding the true nature of God. Why has he made the basest of men to be rulers in this world? Why has he appointed all the servants to horrific things like being sawn in half and being burned alive etc? Why would he put Job through this just to seemingly prove a point to Satan? Someone please help because I’m becoming dissolutioned.
@user6d2a05
@user6d2a05 5 жыл бұрын
You are breathing right? Thats God being kind. He can, if He wants to end anyones life anytime He likes, but He dosen't, why? Because of His mercy. He has a plan for each individual on this earth, some may go through more struggles than others, why? For to strengthen us. Dying is just the beginning of something new btw, HOWever satan _tries_ to kill us Before Gods timing, why? Because he broke the commandment of God, he broke the law first and was cast down upon this earth from Heaven among with his angels to rule here on earth. Satan is ruler of this world, he has decieved the masses that he dosent exist.
@user6d2a05
@user6d2a05 5 жыл бұрын
Give thanks to God in every situation and praise His name.
@redpond77
@redpond77 5 жыл бұрын
2 Corinthians 4:7-18 ESV But we have this treasure in jars of clay, to show that the surpassing power belongs to God and not to us. [8] We are afflicted in every way, but not crushed; perplexed, but not driven to despair; [9] persecuted, but not forsaken; struck down, but not destroyed; [10] always carrying in the body the death of Jesus, so that the life of Jesus may also be manifested in our bodies. [11] For we who live are always being given over to death for Jesus' sake, so that the life of Jesus also may be manifested in our mortal flesh. [12] So death is at work in us, but life in you. [13] Since we have the same spirit of faith according to what has been written, "I believed, and so I spoke," we also believe, and so we also speak, [14] knowing that he who raised the Lord Jesus will raise us also with Jesus and bring us with you into his presence. [15] For it is all for your sake, so that as grace extends to more and more people it may increase thanksgiving, to the glory of God. [16] So we do not lose heart. Though our outer self is wasting away, our inner self is being renewed day by day. [17] For this light momentary affliction is preparing for us an eternal weight of glory beyond all comparison, [18] as we look not to the things that are seen but to the things that are unseen. For the things that are seen are transient, but the things that are unseen are eternal.
@Perfectlyradiant_
@Perfectlyradiant_ 5 жыл бұрын
We aren’t going to understand everything. That’s why he said his ways are not our ways. You will drive yourself crazy. As well as a wedge between you and God trying to. When we get to heaven we aren’t going to trip on why he did what he did in our lives. We are going to be so happy and in love for eternity. Focus on that when you start to question his ways. I need to do the same because it is tempting to try to figure it out.
@jwm6262
@jwm6262 5 жыл бұрын
Ash RockofTruth , check out Good God channel- Bobby Collier it will give you the answers you seek. I struggled with the same
@kathleenwharton2139
@kathleenwharton2139 5 жыл бұрын
+Marty Blackham..you are Right..I pick out what Jesus Said. He is God! Did you Forget? Jesus Gave HIS OWN Gospel HIMSELF..in Matthew 5 6 7.. Jesus Said.."Obey My Sayings and Seek ME and MY Righteousness..I Will Give You EVERYTHING You Need and Deliver You from Evil." He explains everything very well. What is it you don't understand? Do you think Jesus lied? Do you really think Paul and Piper can give me more than Jesus..Himself? It is amazing to me..how many people condemn me because I follow Jesus. You are not alone! I have been told that what I believe..Matthew 5 6 7..is corrupt, rotten garbage! The very Words of Jesus..And this person is proclaiming to be Christian! This is what happens when men listen to men..instead of God..Only in this case a woman..Renee Roland a staunch believer in Paul.
@intra896
@intra896 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder and doubt that how Job had no any flaws? As we know , everybody has a sin-stained nature from the beginning except Jesus Himself. Why doesn't he have that innate sinful nature alone? It's unfathomable!
@intra896
@intra896 5 жыл бұрын
Who knows this answer? No one may know it.....
@leximtz3747
@leximtz3747 5 жыл бұрын
We are all sinful! But what the scriptures meant was that Job was a man seeking after Gods heart. He was a faithful servant. Our righteousness is as filthy rags to the Lord, that’s why we have repentance through Jesus Christ (the only sinless one to walk the earth). At the time Job went through his trial, Christ had not walked the earth or died and resurrected. It wasn’t that Job was not flawed but he faithfully sought God and turned away from evil. His trial wasn’t based on him being disciplined/chastised by God but rather a test of faith! My point is he wasn’t perfect, he was indeed a sinner as us all, but rather follow the flesh, Job served the Lord and wasn’t deserving of his trial yet he still trusted the Lord. Some of us just have trials and question why we are facing this if we are faithful to God but we must trust God no matter what.
@njerome27
@njerome27 5 жыл бұрын
My understanding is Per 13:38 the point was he was flawless in deserving what happened to him...he didn't suffer because he was deserving it....because of a said "flaw". So Job wasn't flawless/ without sin..he was just flawless in deserving what happened...meaning it wasn't a judgement against him because of sin.
@trafficjon400
@trafficjon400 4 жыл бұрын
@@leximtz3747 we might as well dry up and die. sounds like we are worse than a dead ant.
@trafficjon400
@trafficjon400 4 жыл бұрын
don.t say this to a suicidal person for they would surly kill them self.
@trafficjon400
@trafficjon400 4 жыл бұрын
GHod talked then to people and 2000 years ago. is God talking and saying this to people 2000 years later. no .all we have is a 2000 year old book to believe in that man wrote. Grace is blind.
@kathleenwharton2139
@kathleenwharton2139 5 жыл бұрын
+Marty Blackman.. You are Not understanding what Jesus Said. Jesus Gives me Everything I Need. You cannot give me what I Need..you are a man. I Have Jesus..I Do Not Need Paul. Paul cannot give me what I need either. You read your bible and listen to Piper and you are happy with that. I am Not. I have questions and I Seek Jesus..and He Gives me what I Need. I am sorry..I cannot help it..because people do not understand what Jesus Said. Jesus Said to Seek Him and I Do! For Everything! If you read to the end of Job..you will Learn that God Corrects him. He was not as righteous as he thought..and his friends were no better. God is our Provider. God is the Only One Who Can Correct me! He is my Provider too..Not Paul..Piper or you.
@HearGodsWord
@HearGodsWord 5 жыл бұрын
Missing the point as usual but then you pick and choose what you believe in the Bible don't you. Doesn't sound like you're a Christian to me, just someone who listens to a voice in their head that tells them what they want to hear. When you start acting and living like a Christian I might start to take you seriously.
@timsharpe6652
@timsharpe6652 5 жыл бұрын
?
@kathleenwharton2139
@kathleenwharton2139 5 жыл бұрын
+Marty Blackman..it is you who does not understand. Jesus Said to Seek Him and His Righteousness. That is exactly what I Do. I do not seek Paul or Piper or you or other men's opinions in the bible. I Seek Jesus (as He Himself Said to) and He gives me direct revelation. If you are happy with Piper..I am fine with that. But I will Stay with Jesus..who has saved me from the opinions of Men. Jesus is my Teacher and my Judge. You are totally out of place judging me and you will be judged yourself for doing it. If Paul points to Christ and go to Jesus and He Gives me His Revelation..What need to I have to go to men who Point to Christ when I Have Jesus HIMSELF?
@HearGodsWord
@HearGodsWord 5 жыл бұрын
28:19-20 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. Paul was following what Jesus commanded as is John Piper. They did the Lords work.
@kathleenwharton2139
@kathleenwharton2139 5 жыл бұрын
+Marty Blackman..I am teaching Exactly What Jesus Taught...HIS COMMANDS..in Matthew 5 6 7. He Said to Seek HIM..FIRST. He did not say Seek Paul and Piper. Paul and Piper are Not Teaching what Jesus taught. They are teaching you to listen to the Heirarchy of titled men who teach men's opinions about Jesus in the bible. What about "Seek Jesus and HIS Righteousness FIRST.". Do you not understand?
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