How a Fool Responds to Suffering: Job 2:4-10

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Desiring God

Desiring God

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Look at the Book
Teacher: John Piper
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@mrpatrickstar16
@mrpatrickstar16 5 жыл бұрын
“Or do we only value what he DOES for us?” PREACH. Wow
@hemadepeacethroughtheblood5800
@hemadepeacethroughtheblood5800 5 жыл бұрын
waldo God values what he did for us....why don't we????
@robertburke9920
@robertburke9920 3 ай бұрын
For a breakthrough understanding of Job, read the novel "Where Do We Go Now, LORD? - Burke." Advanced. Good.
@danielmikesell2104
@danielmikesell2104 5 жыл бұрын
Let us thank almighty God for the Lamb, and Jesus Christ for his Holy Spirit, leading us to what is good and true.
@dianjohnson1
@dianjohnson1 5 жыл бұрын
This has been very good- I am tracking with Pastor Piper and taking notes. Praise the Lord for His Word!
@mrpatrickstar16
@mrpatrickstar16 5 жыл бұрын
Thank u for this. Really appreciate it. Thank u for praying too, about how jesus can make us understand this scripture more. Thank u for these videos. This helped me because im recently going thru a time in my life where the serpent is telling me that god isnt helping me. But he is. He always is. Maybe jesus is just protecting me and has more plans for me. We just need to trust. Thank u. In jesus name amen
@Goldtaker23
@Goldtaker23 5 жыл бұрын
Amen im in the same place satan is telling me God is not for me im not the elect etc need strong faith
@mrpatrickstar16
@mrpatrickstar16 5 жыл бұрын
Mike Hill dont give into the serpent’s lies. He does this for a reason
@mrpatrickstar16
@mrpatrickstar16 5 жыл бұрын
Mike Hill u got this mike!! U got this!!!
@Goldtaker23
@Goldtaker23 5 жыл бұрын
@@mrpatrickstar16 Amen and God has me thats a great comfort :)
@dominicanpuro26
@dominicanpuro26 5 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU JESUS! So powerful!!
@debifambro1039
@debifambro1039 5 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your teaching... so tenderly articulated. Thank you!
@jewishbride5010
@jewishbride5010 3 жыл бұрын
In agreement with this whole message and job 2:4-10, 2 corinthians 6:14-15, matthew 6:24, 1 john 3:10 I for myself, my friends, my family, colleagues, neighbours, acquintances, opponents and the body of Christ loosen oneself from ever cursing God because of suffering, loosening myself of every unequal yoke and common share with those cursing God because of suffering, in the name and blood of Jesus Christ, amen and hallelujah!
@OHBHGO
@OHBHGO 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you brother for your faithful teaching.
@wyclifmurungi772
@wyclifmurungi772 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, brother John. God bless you and your work.
@duyluu3354
@duyluu3354 5 жыл бұрын
God is a good good Father
@PowerfulRift
@PowerfulRift 5 жыл бұрын
He is Friend.
@gallerygabrielptdedi5788
@gallerygabrielptdedi5788 5 жыл бұрын
Thankyou Ps John n Desiring God
@tomparker3827
@tomparker3827 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you pastor John.
@robotsrule5051
@robotsrule5051 2 жыл бұрын
Solid teaching
@jester7736
@jester7736 5 жыл бұрын
i fell into lust plz pray for me
@swadley27
@swadley27 5 жыл бұрын
God bless u. I pray in the name of Jesus that God will deliver u from lust and I pray that the souls ties that connects u to this lust be broken now, in the Name of Jesus. God has forgiven u , so forgive yourself and then get back on the path of holiness in Jesus Name.
@swadley27
@swadley27 5 жыл бұрын
the lost adventurer i just prayed u , but forgot to add your name .
@mr.c2485
@mr.c2485 5 жыл бұрын
Porn is not your sin. Adopting it as your identity IS.....You are so much more than that. Capture all thought to take it captive and bring it into submission so that compassion and forgiveness can be yours. Sexual desire is a God given gift. Calling it sin is a fools game. Attempting to stop or ignore it is a fruitless endeavor.
@mr.c2485
@mr.c2485 5 жыл бұрын
swadley27 That’s absolutely ridiculous...who are you to call what God has ordained sin.
@mrpatrickstar16
@mrpatrickstar16 5 жыл бұрын
the lost adventurer u got this dude. Same here. But after reading god’s word and finally understanding what it means to truly love Him, we will follow his commandments. This world teaches and normalizes lust. It actually pushes the agenda really. Do u not see magazines? Do u not see snapchat covers? Do u not hear the songs on the radio? The people who are in charge of all of this know what they are doing. They want us to feed into lust. THEY purposely want us to feel like we cant escape our sins in order to lead all souls to hell. Even if its purpose, or accident- its evident that evil is slowly taking over this world If we were really still faithful to god. If the world was still really into god- all this porn stuff would be banned. Yet whenever we watch stuff like it and do bad things with it, we add onto this world’s agenda. We give into it. We support it. Imagine a child coming across something like what lust desires on the internet. Its disgusting. It ruins our souls and deteriorates our mind. IT LITERALLY is a drug. How p0rn affects ur brain is literally a drug because of how dopamine is released. U should look it up. But good news: jesus has died for us. Jesus is like a physical gift from God that shows us we can be saved. And that we are saved. ONLY THROUGH HIM. Are we able to do things. Only through him, are we nourished. Only by relying on HIS. Strength and not ours is how we truly get over addiction and lust. U cant do this on ur own. But he’s always here for us. He’s always been here. You have to HATE. Sin. U have to hate ur lust in order to fully get rid of it. You’ll never be able to get rid of temptation and the devil telling u to go back to ur old sinful ways. But what u can get rid of is GIVING INTO IT. Jesus says ◄ Galatians 5:16 ► So I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. This whole thing is a battle between flesh and spirit. When YOU. Are tempted. Imagine ur going face to face with a demon. Because thats how it is. USE. Ur. SWORD. Ur a lost adventurer anyway right? (Lol) USE. Ur sword. UR SWORD. Is god’s word. JESUS SAYS to be watchful, ur enemy/devil is like a lion waiting to devour its prey. SLAY THAT LION AND DECAPITATE IT. U have the power to get over lust. U just need to rely on HIS strength and not ur own. We got this. He says the beginning was the word and that he IS the word. In the verse, he says to WALK by the spirit. whenever we stop abiding in him, we are running away from the spirit. U can HAVE the spirit in you (which is why u feel guilty. the holy spirit is kind to us and knows, shows us how to feel). BUT even if u HAVE the spirit, u cant let the holy spirit fully reach its full potential if u dont abide in it. When we lust, it slowly dies and is taken control over evil spirits. Reading the bible has helped me. I would read it all the time but i wouldnt understand lol. Didnt realize that there are diff versions of bible and diff translations. I read the NLT version which is soooo much easier. U got this. Were praying for u. We r rooting for u, lost adventurer. Jesus is rooting for u. And has always been. Dont give into this worlds ideals and agenda. Dont give into the devils agenda- before its too late. U got this
@randykimbrough3046
@randykimbrough3046 5 жыл бұрын
Amen
@janellkanaley4783
@janellkanaley4783 4 жыл бұрын
"If a thing is free to be good, it is also free to be bad. And if free will is what made evil possible why, then did God give them free will? Because, free will, though it makes evil possible, is also the only thing that makes possible any love or goodness or joy worth having." - C.S. Lewis "Mere Christianity"
@rickmathews4101
@rickmathews4101 4 жыл бұрын
Curse = bless! Now that’s interesting. Is that to say when one blesses God “sarcastically” it’s really a form of cursing? I love pastor’s perspective on Job’s response.
@robertburke9920
@robertburke9920 3 ай бұрын
So then, for a breakthrough understanding of the Book of Job, read the novel "Where Do We Go Now, LORD? - Burke." Advanced. Good.
@usselpasoable
@usselpasoable 4 жыл бұрын
I used to think Job was unique but soon found out God and Satan have done this many times (myself included minus the happy ending) If job had my life he would have cursed god. A human can not handle all torture. We all have a limit . my curse started early and is still getting worse. Yes even a christian can go through this, and never see God's end to it. when I read about Job's insomnia, premonitions and daily Satanic attacks I knew what was going on in my life. Luckily God decided that Christians would 'generally' not have Job's life. Otherwise the church would have died off a long time ago. But for those who God appointed to have a life time of pain, the book of Job is not very helpful, since his horror did not last an entire life .I have confessed my sins millions of times and made God my master but it never got better. my story is a pastor's nightmare because it doesn't seem possible that a Christian's life would be 90% unbearable for 58 years. John, please answer this question: since God knew the outcome and Job was living a godly life who was the recipient of this trial?
@LibertyFixxxer
@LibertyFixxxer 5 жыл бұрын
I want to take action on my anger. I probably once a day burst out in anger towards my wife, or kids, or co workers. I dont know how to stop it. I just want God to take it all away. I ask him to in prayer. But how do I tell it no? How do I take action against sinful rage? I dont want satan to move me towards the destruction of my family. I want my family to glorify God. I know I need to trust that Jesus can help me. He has done it before, he can do it again. But my rage just flows so freely. I hate it
@Fisayo_Jay
@Fisayo_Jay 5 жыл бұрын
Richard Bennett hello Richard, perhaps you need to alter your prayer points, making them more particular and focused. For example instead of praying to not get angry, pray that God will fill you with the tho Holy Spirit to guide and direct you. It is the Holy Spirit that pushes you to be more Christ like. The holy spirit will show reveal to you and convict your angry thoughts. It will encourage you to approach anger provoking situation in a Godly manner Hope this helped, give me an update if you try this!
@LibertyFixxxer
@LibertyFixxxer 5 жыл бұрын
@@Fisayo_Jay my friend from church pointed me to the book of James. Currently reading it. I also will try asking God to fill me with the holy spirit for direction. I feel very convicted about my pride. I think that's the root of all my anger
@leilovesalec
@leilovesalec 4 жыл бұрын
If you are in your word everyday & listen to praise & worship, it helps, God hears our prayers, but he can't take it all away without us doing the foot work & putting him first in our lives, allowing God to be in the center of everything. I am not perfect there are areas in my life I fail him for how I respond to my disobedient kids, if this helps I need to remember that God has bless me with my kids, his kids, to raise them in his image, to teach them who God is, so when I don't respond the way I should, how am I teaching them that God is love? Or that I love God, to have a relationship with God & to truly be obeident to him first is what I need to do. In order for me to teach my kids, I have to set the example. However when we put God first & allow our relationship with him be one of corrections & love, I can see my flaws & work on them. I fall when I fail to do those things. Our relationship with him determine our out come. Continue to put him first & have the whole family put him first. Practice prayers with the family. Remember your wife is your help mate, she is the one you pray with in order to fight battles with. We all fall, don't beat yourself over it. Just pick yourself up Repent & keep pressing forward to do better the next time. God bless
@georgehazzard3514
@georgehazzard3514 5 жыл бұрын
Real wife if job mind not say that to job, maybe other wife I think because real women already real fasting can wait nomatter how long, that's why show how to see today of how it work yesterday. What you think our precious brother's. I don't know, please teach me because I am women don't know then man but I believe without women other brain of man cannot filled. What you think!!! I just don't know, please forgives me and teach me more.
@kathleenwharton2139
@kathleenwharton2139 5 жыл бұрын
A wise man Seeks Jesus for his Help. A Fool seeks Men..for their opinion..just a Job did..and the people on this site! Fools seek fools!
@kathleenwharton2139
@kathleenwharton2139 5 жыл бұрын
family lowe..Jesus teaches us to Seek HIM and HIS Righteousness. That is what I Do. You have missed the whole point of the story of Job! God is our Provider and we shouldn't be listening to "Jobs friends.". You are a Jobs "friend." as well. I will continue listening to Jesus..Thank You!
@kathleenwharton2139
@kathleenwharton2139 5 жыл бұрын
+Splagchnizomai..you are not to the end of the story yet. God Comes to Job and Corrects him Big Time..for listening to fools..instead of HIM. I got corrected too..just as Job did. I no longer listen to Men. That are all Fools! I listen Only to God..just as He asked people through out the bible. Solomon was a disobedient man who God was very unhappy with. And when you take the council of Fools..You are Sure to Fall. You do not understand this story at all. But since you like listening to a clown..I hope you like falling with him. Take all the council you want to from Men. I have learned my lesson! Good Luck to you!
@kathleenwharton2139
@kathleenwharton2139 5 жыл бұрын
+Splagchnizomai..Job did Wrong and was like any fool..He tried to maintain his own righteousness. And his Friends were Wrong too. God Corrected Them All. God Gave HIS Commandments to Be Obeyed. The OT people made up their own commandments..obeyed them and ignored Gods commandments..exactly as people Do ToDay.
@kathleenwharton2139
@kathleenwharton2139 5 жыл бұрын
+Splagchnizomai..you are right in that Job did not seek his friends. Jobs friends came on their own..as friends will do. But they were ALL Wrong and God Corrected Job..because he was wrong too..and Not as righteous as he thought he was.
@kathleenwharton2139
@kathleenwharton2139 5 жыл бұрын
+Splagchizomai.. Do not worry about what you Said. You spoke your truth..as I speak mine. But I take Jesus at HIS WORD. Jesus Said in Matthew 5 6 7.."Obey My Sayings and Seek Me and My Righteousness..I will Give You Everything You Need and Deliver you from evil." Job learned the same thing. God is Our provider and He Is Sufficient! That is what I have found Too. Everybody's opinions in the bible are just confusing..and the fact that there are so many churches and people who think they are Right proves it. Jesus is Right and He is All I Need.
@heliaalves9062
@heliaalves9062 5 жыл бұрын
I find it difficult to believe that a loving God would harm Job, especially when he did nothing wrong. I find it difficult to believe God is in control of this world, because if He was the results would be different. I believe Satan has some power to decide when and who to struck and God is just waiting to sort all of this out in His own timing. once and for all, and shower all human beings with his unconditional love.
@intelsospeter
@intelsospeter 5 жыл бұрын
Jesus never did wrong. But he was harmed.
@heliaalves9062
@heliaalves9062 5 жыл бұрын
@@intelsospeter Indeed! He was not a regular human being, he came to fulfill a prophecy and provide redemption to every single human being who accepts him.
@intelsospeter
@intelsospeter 5 жыл бұрын
@@heliaalves9062 👍👍🏾
@heliaalves9062
@heliaalves9062 5 жыл бұрын
@family lowe I understand where you come from. If part of humanity is going to be destroyed, it's because of free will. They are free to choose, God didn't create robots. However, those who choose God will make mistakes sometimes because no one is perfect, there's where God's grace and God's mercy apply. His love, however, is unconditional, He blesses the wicked too!
@Fisayo_Jay
@Fisayo_Jay 5 жыл бұрын
Hello love!, The Bible has taught me that God allows us to experience pain and difficulty to drawn us closer to him. It is in the midst of suffering our desire to experience Gods comfort, favour and love is amplified. God is in fact in control of Satan. It’s difficult to take bcos we don’t want to believe that God would allow satan to cause all this pain, but it is the very thing that makes him God! To deny Gods ability to allow evil is to deny the power and nature of his Godness, that which is mighty and above all! He created the seas, the clouds, so there is no doubt in my mind a God capable of such beauty can create equally potent disaster
@egosilence6197
@egosilence6197 5 жыл бұрын
This is the thing...why do we have to suffer to begin with? Why must we accept the bad at all?
@intelsospeter
@intelsospeter 5 жыл бұрын
Don't you want to learn obedience and patience?
@egosilence6197
@egosilence6197 5 жыл бұрын
Intel Sospeter Why do I need to learn those things?
@intelsospeter
@intelsospeter 5 жыл бұрын
@@egosilence6197 they are virtues. Build Character. You don't desire that?
@egosilence6197
@egosilence6197 5 жыл бұрын
Intel Sospeter why do I need those virtues?
@intelsospeter
@intelsospeter 5 жыл бұрын
@@egosilence6197 Are you hungry?
@riddickriddick9520
@riddickriddick9520 3 жыл бұрын
The whole point of the book of Job is this - your would be allmighty god made a bet with none other then satan!? Here on Eart even we mortal despise gamblers, and lo and behold this would be pure god is a hard core gambler. Why would an omnipotent god need to prove anything to satan who is referred to as - son of god. How cute. Forget about this semitic desert demon he is no better then satan.
@tessalogan586
@tessalogan586 5 жыл бұрын
Calling someone a fool is a sin, God will judge you seven fold ,we are to love one another ,that's the Jesus i know.
@mrpatrickstar16
@mrpatrickstar16 5 жыл бұрын
Splagchnizomai i think he doesnt mean the actual word “fool” that we define in our world today. when we define fool in today’s modern culture we think of- “Omgosh THEYRE A FOOL THEYRE DUMB!!! THEYRE SO STUPID” I guess we just have to keep in mind the text the bible is written in is rly old- the video explains what they meant by “foolish” back then. Also even if Jesus does- he doesnt mean it in a condescending manner !!! if he meant it in a condescending manner he would literally be evil and unmerciful. If he was like these evil things he’d just send his wrath onto us right now but constantly gives us chances before its too late 😭😭😭 Also cool youtube name Lol
@shabadsadana2434
@shabadsadana2434 4 жыл бұрын
Amen
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