Can You Use Green Wood In Timber Framing? - Part 1
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We receive questions like this all the time:
“Can I use green timber to build my timber frame?”
“How should I store my timbers until I am ready to build?”
“What if my timbers were all stored for different amounts of time?”
In this video, Pat explains why we use green timber and how to store your timbers for longer periods of time.
Look out for Part 2 coming soon!
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@ChrisSmith-zm7kg 26 күн бұрын
This is what the Internet is for, a free exchange of information. Thank you sir.
@ShelterInstitute 26 күн бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@callmeishmael7452 3 жыл бұрын
From an architect: loved this. Straight into the nub of the issue, no promotion, real fact dense content and a natural born teacher. Thank you sir.
@MegaDavyk Жыл бұрын
And he is awake to the way Congress works.
@AnxiousCowboy 3 ай бұрын
He’s good with nub
@justinhale5693 2 ай бұрын
I love the commentary about the congressmen.
@DawsonTyson 3 жыл бұрын
lol he said, "if you're a congressman" lol pew pew 😂
@timgiles9413 3 жыл бұрын
He speaks truth about Congressman :) LOL
@redrock1996 3 жыл бұрын
Love the comments,,, subtle reminders of who is the joker..👌👌👌
@DavenH 3 жыл бұрын
@Matteo Zaiden not extremely relevant you toaster
@lanceroark6386 2 жыл бұрын
“....that has taken billions from the pharmaceutical industry...”
@tropicalco2339 Жыл бұрын
@@lanceroark6386 oh yeah don’t forget the war, chemical, and prison industry
@billmccaffrey1977 2 жыл бұрын
On splitting during drying. The Japanese cut a thin groove down one side of a green timber, which greatly prevents warping ans splitting. Kiln drying kills the lignin (a key part of the cell structure), which makes the wood more brittle. I recommend a great book: "Understanding Wood" by R. Bruce Hoadley
@hickerbilly345 3 жыл бұрын
You sir are a legend.
@Mike-db1nn 2 жыл бұрын
Wish I had a teacher like you in High School but I am 63 so we might have both been in HS in the 70's LOL. I have been a home builder in Tucson AZ for 40 years and am getting ready to build a timber frame in Montana using the sawmill I just ordered. Life long woodworker as well. Just wanted to tell you I learned so much from your videos, thanks for sharing your knowledge sir !!
@damnthetorpedos1691 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love the congressman jabs. You make me happy. Good lessons, thank you.
@georgetudhope Жыл бұрын
I worked at a lumber mill back in the 1990's, we were Pacific Northwest cutting timbers from 4×4 up to 8×16. Only 2×4 dimensional was dried in the kiln. Timbers were cut green when they ran through the planer and then sprayed with anti-stain chemicals. If a load sat in the yard, it would be stained. We were running fir and hemlock. If you want stability look for heart centers going through the whole Timber
@c.martin1016 3 жыл бұрын
best video i have ever watched on youtube. period.
@kenamsdell6741 Ай бұрын
I love listening to you. You have so much knowledge.
@hwp69 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Pat! It's good to see you teaching. I pray for you and yours frequently to continue being safe and sharing the wealth of knowledge entrusted to your family for generations to come.
@josephlieberman3027 Жыл бұрын
Amen
@markmiles9581 Жыл бұрын
Very good information. I live in a log home that's 30+ yrs old, it's had shrinkage over the years, but far less than most because we have managed the moisture within the house.
@scottc3165 3 жыл бұрын
Now that was above and beyond the normal tutorial. I appreciate that A LOT. Thank you!
@davidjordonmiller9686 3 жыл бұрын
This was awesome, I’ve wondered about all these things. Thanks so much!
@mitchelllester9035 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. You’ve articulated this topic very well and have gone over lots of the little details. Thank you.
@bobmoore5242 3 жыл бұрын
Rare to see a man with time accrued knowledge and the eloquence to present it so well.
@Speedlaw2000 3 жыл бұрын
Great job, Pat! Enjoyed the refresher! Miss you and all the great folks at Shelter! I need to make another pilgrimage from Arkansas to Maine to come visit! Thanks!
@rogerbettencourt9654 3 жыл бұрын
Always love the content. Thanks all.
@autonomous_collective 3 жыл бұрын
Keep up the great work. Really appreciate the videos. Truly.
@juantransportador 3 жыл бұрын
HELLO from las Vegas Nevada, thank you for the information, GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY, stay safe.
@juantransportador 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you and be safe.
@jedmorris1092 3 жыл бұрын
Very good video! Looking forward to part 2!
@mutchmedia 3 жыл бұрын
From Kingston, Ontario. Thank you for these recent videos, hoping one day to attend one of your workshops.
@HedgehogOutdoors Жыл бұрын
These videos are very interesting! My wife and I just took over her family's acreage in Lincoln county, we were surprised to learn you folks are so close by! I would love for our house to be timber frame, so we will be binging quite a few of your videos!
@peterpulpitpounder 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating, and very educating. What a teacher.
@davidpotter3777 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the knowledge that you shared your experience is priceless, my Grandmother's family used to be timber cruisers in the Fort Bragg Mendocino area, I got to live in the Redwoods growing up but it was in San Mateo county had some big Douglass firs there also. My Daddy built houses for a living and you sound like him the way you explain things. What a treasure you are ! God bless you and your family Aloha
@andrewpardell9701 2 жыл бұрын
I totally love the way this guy presents the information and find this very valuable information as a new sawmill owner
@amandawilcox9638 3 жыл бұрын
Awfully tempting...Thank you! Loved the cell & beam illustrations.
@glendonrhoades4716 3 жыл бұрын
That was great. Thank you so much for sharing this information. The sort of things that would take a house or two to learn.
@josephlieberman3027 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, your lesson greatly improved my vague understanding of the nature of lumber and it's condition as it relates to moisture loss and the ways to compensate for it's variable conditions now I will never look at any wood quite the same any more. Thanks again.
@LeahMiPop 3 жыл бұрын
I just found your videos and love your wealth of knowledge. Thanks for sharing what you know!
@leonardturner6659 3 жыл бұрын
Such a great presentation with humour, knowledgeable and interesting to listen too
@Arcturusvanlasagna Жыл бұрын
Beautiful, every single syllable was art, thanks Pat.
@jdm11060 3 жыл бұрын
I've just learned to be okay building with imperfect timbers. All these twists and warps are usually pretty minor, at least with eastern hemlock, which is what I use. Kilns, sealants, humidifiers, etc, no one timber framing hundreds of years ago had these things and their structures are still with us today. Relax, have a beer, and timberframe.
@Grunt49 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this.
@Guy4UnderDog 3 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing "shacks" in the Appalachians as a youngster that were made with green lumber. The rational for using green was that mostly hardwoods were available that were impossible to nail once dried! They were called "Tar Paper Shacks" because they were papered over because of the cracks opened up from shrinkage.
@christopherfisher128 2 жыл бұрын
Most of those were never meant to last either. They were supposed to be temporary housing for seasonal workers or miners.
@carmineredd1198 2 жыл бұрын
i remember one having a very low ceiling i thought was a child toy dollhouse i think it had 3 rooms
@jerpetraitis6769 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for imparting your many years of experience. Great, informative video, well done!
@danimald.2407 2 жыл бұрын
Best video on wood I've ever seen. Much respect.
@Shogunersash 2 жыл бұрын
You may never know how grateful I am.
@OldGloryTreeCo Жыл бұрын
Great video! My wife and I are in the design stages of our timber frame, and I love the way this was presented!
@danharte6645 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant, I'm so grateful you can share these insights. Love from the British Isles
@tincho679 3 жыл бұрын
This is EXCELLENT!! Thanks!
@nwaldburger 3 жыл бұрын
We had an exposed timber frame home in Switzerland and to keep the beams from splitting we had to put a water kettle on top of the fireplace.
@TheBearGrylz 3 жыл бұрын
This was very informative thank you sir.
@randalmoroski1184 Жыл бұрын
“A congressman who has taken billions from the Pharmaceutical Industry…!” That one line has made me a subscriber..!
@North-wn6xz 2 жыл бұрын
Love it!! Congress comments are spot on!!
@robertarguello1115 Жыл бұрын
This classroom lecture was helpful. Thank you! 👍
@michaelayers925 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! This was exactly the information I needed to hear today!
@johntupper1369 3 жыл бұрын
looking forward to part 2
@jeremyscott6641 3 жыл бұрын
Wow very informative thank you for all the tips.
@markfortin9857 Жыл бұрын
Loved the learning experience of this
@amyvanzandt6229 3 жыл бұрын
Holy crap I so needed to see this we are going to harvest trees off our property to build this summer thank you so very much
@jasonc3522 3 жыл бұрын
You will be better off felling your timber in the winter after the trees naturally removed their moisture.
@CorySlykerman Жыл бұрын
Masterclass. Thank you!
@beargardenroad5469 3 жыл бұрын
Useful Information, Thanks for sharing
@ruffryder13 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Nice that you decided to give more info than "Wth else are we going to do?" :)
@jimwagnerclips 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love the congressman jabs!
@giantthoughts7885 3 жыл бұрын
Freaking fantastic! Makes you realize just how much you DON'T know before beginning my first timber frame!
@brandoncalliotte2132 3 жыл бұрын
This dude is undeniably honest and legendary
@JamesAhrens 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah this is amazing. Thank you, sir.
@andrenadeausimard9958 3 жыл бұрын
You guys are amazing!
@leftfootforward1040 3 жыл бұрын
Here in the UK and the rest of Europe, we have oak timber frames that would have been built green, that are hundreds of years old and still going strong. Un housed t and m's. Still built like that today and still structurally sound.
@TitiniusAndronicus 2 жыл бұрын
The English oak is a massive construction advantage. The English should be aware and appreciative of where their power comes from.
@thomasschafer7268 5 ай бұрын
😅😅but we don't build oak houses. We have KVH timber since 30 years.
@leftfootforward1040 5 ай бұрын
@@thomasschafer7268 video topic, can you use green wood in timber framing. The answer is yes. Look up oak timber frame home uk and you'll get an idea of the work I do.
@topsaw 3 жыл бұрын
very informative, thank you
@einarvolsung2202 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@lynncollinsworth6108 25 күн бұрын
Ty
@vincentjames1995 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video- thank you posting this!
@ShelterInstitute 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@DanielZajic 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video. 👏
@pamelah6431 3 жыл бұрын
You made my husband cheer with regard to the Senator-Pharma remarks. 😁
@mathewmiletich5986 3 жыл бұрын
I was coming here to support that comment too! hahaha
@johnfitbyfaithnet 3 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@jonathankerner2094 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the very informative lesson. I have hemlock available in my area at my local mill.
@algaspard 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@middleway1885 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great info! Cheers!
@s0mnil Жыл бұрын
Fascinating.
@robboone4367 6 ай бұрын
Sooo informative!
@alwaysbetonflat7868 3 жыл бұрын
Legendary! Thank you.
@damianbergamaschi3180 3 жыл бұрын
Every tree on my property just shuttered in fear. Signing up!
@davidjenson4512 2 жыл бұрын
@Jay Smith Yea. Very few trees have shutters. (This might be the work of a rouge spell checker)
@honumoorea873 Жыл бұрын
Of course you can, I did my house with it and all is perfect, I used Douglas.
@nolawnnate5934 Жыл бұрын
I reallly enjoyed learning and the 'congressman' digressions--greetings from texas
@RenatSavi 3 жыл бұрын
thx for informing the public
@dangreen6074 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant scientific explanation! What do you seal the green timber with?
@williamwoodfin4077 Жыл бұрын
Pharmaceutical comment was brilliant!!!😀
@MickeyTaylor225 3 жыл бұрын
Love this guy!
@supamat 3 жыл бұрын
Great video
@michaelfarmer537 Жыл бұрын
You had me at the introduction! ❤
@tomreynolds4941 3 жыл бұрын
excellent
@familiadaterra 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you vety much sir
@twonulator 2 ай бұрын
God bless you sir.
@JacobAHull-nx6rx 3 жыл бұрын
Great...thank you!!
@tomast9034 Ай бұрын
old folks here used method called like "month wood". cut the tree just before spring leave it upside down at a slope and wait till the leaves come out. taht way most of the water goes to the fresh leaves and even branches.those are cut off. here we have a general rule every cm of wood means 1 year of natural drying.. like for a 15cm thick plank its 15y.
@kennyLmitchell 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Question, could this principle be applied to thick slabs of wood? It’s such a pain in the ass that it takes up to a year per inch to dry. With a 3 inch slab that’s a lot of time before you can build with them. I’m not talking about super fine joinery but mostly just table tops and simple furniture. The problem is warping and twisting as the abs dry, especially with live oak. I’d love to hear that this principle could be applied to these wood slabs.
@aragustin 3 жыл бұрын
thank you so much for the videos, time and love. i want to ask, in a respectful manner, if the sound of his voice if because of wood dust?
@tonydoggett7627 3 жыл бұрын
Older homes in Australia with eucalyptus hardwood bearers and joists were built green. You can’t drive a nail into dry Australian hardwood unless you pre drill.
@craigbielsky115 3 жыл бұрын
SAME WITH WHITE OAK ........
@iandonchi1034 3 жыл бұрын
The large country homes were built with the local hard wood species , light coloured messmate and brush box, red gum was extensively used also , well built framed and clad by multiple carpenters using oversized timbers , 4×2 studs 5×2 ceiling joists & 6x2 floor joists on 4x4 bearers .
@jimdoyle8224 2 жыл бұрын
And mortised into the top and bottom plate in order to prevent twisting, I have worked on many houses in a little old ex gold mining town called Braidwood in southern NSW. always amazing how well done and long lived those Hardwood walls are. messmate ash stringybark spottedgum, yellow and gray box for jambs and window frames, hard as hell.
@pamtnman1515 3 жыл бұрын
outstanding
@calin7017 3 жыл бұрын
Well, I'm just happy to find out that, unknowingly, I did something right with my timber. I cut it three years ago, made it into 6 x 6 and 2 x 6, and because I didn't have time to built my barn, I just store it the way you said. Last time I've checked (a day or two ago) there was very little twisting and cracks. Can't wait to start working the mortises and the tenons.
@MollerFarm 3 жыл бұрын
You now owe the government three years of back-inventory taxes
@thoughtsfromathenasreality 3 жыл бұрын
And why are we still cutting down trees to build houses when there are superior way to build houses, like Cobb houses, Straw Bale, Yurts, and Domes; to name a few. We should just be using timber as a basic frame, and filling in with other materials. We need our trees to give us oxygen on our earth! Common sense!
@off6848 3 жыл бұрын
@@thoughtsfromathenasreality none of those would hold up in the Louisiana delta where I’m from
@aWomanFreed 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t tell ur neighbors
@aWomanFreed 3 жыл бұрын
Athena C oh puhleeze. That’s the exact mindset they want u to have
@bryansmith844 8 ай бұрын
incredible - the congressman slam had me dying
@Wudman 3 жыл бұрын
This man grabbed my attention right away and kept me interested for the entire video
@AnxiousCowboy 3 ай бұрын
You gotta crush
@leontaylor3572 Жыл бұрын
I love when you throw in the tid bit comments about wealth and the congressman. I love it man. You are so right. 1 Timothy 6:10 Thank you for the video and your wisdom
@toph155 3 жыл бұрын
What do you recommend for sealing white pine?? I will be using some soon and would love to know, if is rough cut green
@CharleswoodSpudzyofficial 3 жыл бұрын
I love this guy
@achiachi2874 Жыл бұрын
Hi, thank you for this awesome lecture on lumber. For sure this varies but, in a rather cold region, how long should lumber dry minimally before framing with it, if I f.ex. refrain from heating up the finished construction to much for about 1/2-1 year?
@Solidbuildingcorp Жыл бұрын
Hey guys me and my crew are getting into timber framing from standard framing. Been a great decision so far! I wonder what you “seal” your Timbers with? We use a local rough sawn formula stain.
@JakeAho 7 ай бұрын
He says in the video "heritage natural oils" with potentially other additives
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