Can you use normal screws outdoors?
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Күн бұрынOver the last 5 years I've been doing a bit of a test to see how quickly normal screws rust. Is it worth spending extra money on stainless steel screws and the like for outdoor use? Over the years I've seen a lot of screws specifically designed for outdoor use that have rusted to hell. At the same time my bog standard Screwfix woodscrews seem to be just fine outdoors. Anyway, here are my thoughts and here are all the vids in this series:
How quickly do modern Woodscrews rust? (Part 1) - • How quickly do Woodscr...
How quickly do modern Woodscrews rust? (Part 2) - • How quickly do Woodscr...
Screw Drive Systems in the UK (Part 3) - • Why are Pozidriv screw...
What Screws Do I Use (Part 4) - • What sort of screws do...
Using Normal Screws Outside (Part 5) - • Can you use normal scr...
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@nakedbananas444 4 жыл бұрын
Hey. Great video. Thanks. What are decent brands in your opinion?
@GosforthHandyman 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers and good question! I use Screwfix own brand (QuickSilver, TurboGold etc.) and know from experience that Spax & Reisser are good. Also heard good things about ForgeFast, FandF, Screw-Tite, Ulti-Mate II, Vida (Ironmongery Direct), TIMco. I was also sent a bunch of TurboQuik screws but haven't had a chance to test them. I'll pin this post and anyone can add anything I've missed, also would be useful to have brands for different countries too! 👍👊
@nakedbananas444 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for you clarification!! Really appreciated!!
@superiorbeing95 4 жыл бұрын
@@GosforthHandyman You forgot nails, I like nails!
@briannewton3535 4 жыл бұрын
I like Goldscrew plus, but silverscrew are fab speshly with wallplugs. . The thing that I have found with Stainless, is they are (generally) softer, the head can chew up, or they may shear when driving them in.
@nakedbananas444 4 жыл бұрын
Brian newton Thanks, Brian!
@TheTimeDetective42 4 жыл бұрын
Well well, thanks for doing this experiment! They turned out better than i expected! WOW!
@jes1111yta 4 жыл бұрын
Very good point about the crap that comes with bought stuff for mounting - in the bin, including the plastic plugs, immediately! I build camper vans - I use A2 stainless (Torx, 'natch) because the vans tend to go to coastal spots and it's a marketing point for me. Of course, they're a PITA because their not magnetic and won't stick to the bit, plus they are not keen on being driven in with an impact driver. Horses for courses! I even use stainless rivnuts and washers ;-)
@GosforthHandyman 4 жыл бұрын
Defo worth it for something like that. 👍
@mccoulombe941 2 жыл бұрын
Omg I am in awe of your methodology. I just can't get enough of Hardware! Always learning Thank you for teaching😁
@sawdustandsurvival 3 жыл бұрын
I came to this video because my daughter brought me a screw left in the garden. I'd not used that type of screw for over a year. It was a Screwfix Turbo Gold and it was immaculate. Couldn't believe it because I'd been flapping about not having a few outdoor screws left for a job.
@tjbrison 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! I have had really bad experiences with screws in horizontal decking - where the screw head is sitting below water for a long time, in a countersunk hole. The screw head and body rust making removal a real pain. So I tried Spax Wirox T20 screws and have never looked back: on a deck I did 8 years ago I can still remove any of the screws with ease!
@DTRB56 4 жыл бұрын
‘Never go back to using cheap screws again’. So true. Though I have made the mistake of trying to explain this to clients. Best to not let oneself be seen throwing away the screws that came with the item.
@dennisd5776 4 жыл бұрын
Very usefully information. Thanks for the real world test.
@GosforthHandyman 4 жыл бұрын
No worries Dennis! 👍
@bobclay8137 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if perhaps the results may have been different if the screws were mounted, for instance, in decking boards horizontally on the ground and liable to puddling round the heads. Interesting results thou, I usually use Screwfix Ultra stainless screws for gate hinges / locks etc but they are pricey and brittle and will often snap on removal after they have been in a while. I keep most of Screwfix's screws on my van so I think I might try some gold or turbo ones on my next gate or fence fit, thanks for the video.
@GosforthHandyman 4 жыл бұрын
Yup - give them a test and see how you get on! These seemed to perform really well. 👍
@bigmonkey999888 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Andy as ever brilliant video most informative Steve
@GosforthHandyman 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers Steve! 👍
@normanbott 4 жыл бұрын
I've been caught out with cheap unbranded decking screws from the local (then independent) builders merchant. Used in constructing raised beds, they didn't last long - corroded heads and snapped. They looked like those green ones you showed. I've used ordinary Spax on galvanised gate furniture over 5 years ago - still good. We're in Wales and it's wet ! Nice and informative as usual Andy, good luck with the house hunting.
@GosforthHandyman 4 жыл бұрын
Yup - I've had similar problems with decking screws! Cheers Norman! 👍👊
@andrevanopstal2143 4 жыл бұрын
For outdoor applications I always use Spax A2 stainless steel screws. Never had any problems with it.
@ironpirate8 4 жыл бұрын
Twas I who asked, thanks, this is an interesting experiment! It's often when I come to replace guttering which has been fixed up with regular screws, I notice the heads are rusted away. I couldn't really say reliably what screws were used or how long ago though.
@GosforthHandyman 4 жыл бұрын
Great stuff and thank you for the question! These should be fine for guttering. 👍
@StuckInTheM1ddle 4 жыл бұрын
I'm looking to fix some external timber cladding (probably Irish Larch) to a block garden wall via battens. From a bit of research on external cladding, a lot of decent sites say to use Stainless Steel screws (probably 304 version as they better suited but also more expensive). Just wondering if you think that's overkill or what you'd use to avoid staining after a few years on the timber cladding post-install. Thanks (I don't have a nail gun hence going screws)
@willwallacetree 4 жыл бұрын
Ooh, we do like yarning about screws. We tend to mill and use a lot of green Oak, Sweet Chestnut, Larch, Doug Fir, Western Red Cedar, and they'll all destroy a lightly plated screw very rapidly and leave that tasteful blue-black tannin stain. There's a lovely old boat building and roofing term which is 'nail sickness' when the timber of a structure is sound, but the fixings have turned ropey and the whole lot is condemned well before it's time is due. The other thing to watch is that there has been a poorly publicised change in treated timber that really affects fixings. The change from CCA treatment (Copper Chrome Arsenic) to ACQ (Alkaline Copper Quaternary) replaced some nasty/good chemicals in CCA with a highly acidic environment in ACQ that should rot fixings if applied to any depth. Any of the Paslode perverts banging treated timber together with bright or electroplate nails should really be using Hot Dip Galvanised or other class 3 fixings as a minimum.
@JamesSClapperton 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve always been more concerned about the screw corroding than breaking. The corrosion leaks down the siding or trim and stains.
@GosforthHandyman 4 жыл бұрын
Defo - seen that on some poor quality screws that seem to rust straight away. 👍
@williamhartsell6390 Жыл бұрын
Stainless steel
@TheMassAnnoyance 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly the video I need!
@GosforthHandyman 4 жыл бұрын
No worries! 👍
@superiorbeing95 4 жыл бұрын
I made a deck ramp using Wickes green deck screws, 4 months later had to pull it apart and change it around and some of them had rusted which surprised me.
@GosforthHandyman 4 жыл бұрын
Yup - I've had rust issues with Wickes decking screws too - was a while ago though. 👍👊
@MichaelDreksler 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. The challenge with decking screws is they get the worst of it, water sitting in and around them. 5yr old decking screws are not that shiny, even the good ones
@GosforthHandyman 4 жыл бұрын
Some of the big boxes sold by the big stores are terrible quality too. 👍
@leigh051985 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video Andy, good to know that all the odd screws we gather up over the years will be ok to put towards some outdoor maintenance or projects. also glad I know someone who plays farming simulator other than myself (34) and 9 year old son!
@GosforthHandyman 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic stuff - similar here with my son! (but a bit older) 😂👍
@twicebittenthasme5545 4 жыл бұрын
Iteresting video. Thanks for sharing!
@GosforthHandyman 4 жыл бұрын
No worries!
@dadsinoz 4 жыл бұрын
Getting a little obsessed with handyman videos now, might need help. Thank you for feeding my addiction :D
@GosforthHandyman 4 жыл бұрын
Ha ha - no worries! 👍😂
@peterryan7827 3 жыл бұрын
I have just found your channel so i hope its ok to ask , where is the cheapest place to get screw from,i am about to line out a garage with 4/2, and insulate it plus faceboard it with ply or si,ilar for a games room,But i have noticed the price of them is amazing and i am going to need several hundred.
@noexit6764 3 жыл бұрын
hi, what is the coating for golden or silver screw? is it zinc plated?
@javc7433 4 жыл бұрын
I've just bought some Heavy Duty Cranked Hook & Ride Hinges 600mm , binned the screws , replaced with m6 stainless steel coach screws .
@ChucksDream 4 жыл бұрын
Only things Id worry about would be staining and even with small amounts of rust it can sometimes weaken the timber around the fixing and in turn weaken the hold. Depending on the job it could cause something to fall down. Probably not but better to be safe in some circumstances.
@animationcreations42 4 жыл бұрын
I've never had an issue with the black phosphate coated drywall screws outdoors. I temporarily (about 5 years ago) put a fence up with them as I have an abundance of them and they're still fine
@GosforthHandyman 4 жыл бұрын
I must admit I haven't tested those outdoors, I'll give them a try at some point! Trouble is they're generally Phillips. 😂😢
@chmoduk 4 жыл бұрын
I've always used those yellow zinc drywall screws on my own fencing. No issues apart from the odd one or two that snapped from a few badly warped palings.
@UberAlphaSirus 4 жыл бұрын
If it isn't gonna move, support a load etc, drywals are cheep drive well just brittle. I use em for load of stuff. Worktops, boxwork, skirting, if I have any left some times plasterboard. They go up to 100mm 4", end on in mdf they are great as they are thin shank.
@MattLitkeRacing 4 жыл бұрын
Gosforth Handyman Phillips are always trouble ➕
@MattLitkeRacing 4 жыл бұрын
It’s only temporary if it doesn’t work
@LemmingFNSR 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Andy A big thing in corrosion is equal exposure to oxygen. It’s the boundaries where the rust typically occurs. e.g. a the tiny rust ring around a water droplet I think you’ve hit on the important principle: a quality item will stand up to the rigors where a poor one will not. Stay well in lockdown, kind regards from Canberra Mark
@malcolmjames1866 4 жыл бұрын
Blimey, Andy. Down here in Mid-Devon we have to separate out all the recycling. You've got it easy up there, but maybe a bit wetter!
@GosforthHandyman 4 жыл бұрын
Ha ha! We used to separate out the glass... then noticed them tipping the glass in to the main bin before loading it in the truck, so seemed a bit pointless. Probably all ends up in landfill. 😂😢
@JohnSmithh644 7 ай бұрын
Which to use for bathroom door hinge that gets rusty due to poor ventilation
@michaelkelly3356 4 жыл бұрын
Great video.
@GosforthHandyman 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers Michael! 👍👊
@36736fps 4 жыл бұрын
Easily understood test with useful results. What kind of wood and treatment were the screws originally driven into?
@GosforthHandyman 4 жыл бұрын
Just a treated fence post. 👍
@deanlowther4020 4 жыл бұрын
Now try that test up in consett!
@awantamta 4 жыл бұрын
Nice experiment
@GosforthHandyman 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Tahir - took a while! 😂👍
@alanjones3873 4 жыл бұрын
I need to replace a gate 15 yrs old. Black Japanned screws dont look too hopeful for getting out
@gusp5835 2 жыл бұрын
When I was young I accidentally used zinc plated screws for a picket fence.. ten years later still holding up. Weird right?
@colinhalkyard2898 4 жыл бұрын
i screwed some screws in my fence many years ago and they are still in now i,m going to spend some time burning them out thanks to last two storms.
@richardhogben3776 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this
@GosforthHandyman 4 жыл бұрын
No worries Richard! 👍
@RobotJustice 4 жыл бұрын
So a few wax coated screws driven partway and left outside but put under basically no stress started to show signs of rusting after a few years where the wax was roughed up by the wood? I dunno man, most of the screws I drive actually do some work. That little bit of rust would be a whole lot worse if there was actual stress on the screws.
@GosforthHandyman 4 жыл бұрын
Bear in mind wax on screws is for lubrication, not for corrosion protection. These are zinc plated. 👍
@JuiceBanger1 4 жыл бұрын
I have had screws snap when moving a small picket fence I made, due to corrosion I believe after around 5 yrs. I now use proper stainless screws for my own jobs
@GosforthHandyman 4 жыл бұрын
No harm in using stainless but these screws I tested are fine. 👍
@UberAlphaSirus 4 жыл бұрын
You gotta remember screws are hardend, thin ones are brittle if wiggled, not as brittle as drywall but close. Sometimes galved nails are the way to go. And if you drill the holes, they won't budge.
@JuiceBanger1 4 жыл бұрын
Just for interest, I build a shed in july and used the new 16g brad nailer I got of ebay, used galvanised Brad's. Now I'd read the heads can rust but they actually do. So dont know why they can be galv and rust. Must be dirt quality? So I'll pay for the stainless Brad's I've seen for future stuff to see if they are rust free. Love the brad nailer too.
@fluphybunny930 Жыл бұрын
Used some screws for a little build. Years later realised their were "outdoor" screws ! Checked mine, nothing wrong with any of them.
@telsaw892 4 жыл бұрын
Aren't the coated decking screws resistant to the pressure treated timber chemicals?
@StamosTee 4 жыл бұрын
Great content 👍 Personally I rarely use special screws for outside projects. The only type I found more vulnerable to weather conditions is the black drywall screw. (Am I seeing a Greek island in the photos ? Simi island maybe ?)
@GosforthHandyman 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers Stamatis! Well spotted - that certainly was Symi! Beautiful island. Wish I could visit more often! 👍👊
@nickcollins7568 3 жыл бұрын
I am a plumber and tend to use the quicksilver brand for most purposes. They seem to be good for most purposes except for fixing sanitary ware like toilets to the floor. Then I go with brass screws.
@briannewton3535 4 жыл бұрын
Is that the Stanley storage tote? How are you getting on with it? Currently on offer at Screwfix.
@GosforthHandyman 4 жыл бұрын
It is! They're awesome. Worth picking a few up if they're at a good price. I'm sure I paid about £10 each for mine. The Screwfix BOGOF deal looks good! 👍
@Yahatacooky 4 жыл бұрын
03:48 What a PT!
@timh5529 4 жыл бұрын
"just one more video" ahahahah yeah right! I look forward to the next video about screws!
@GosforthHandyman 4 жыл бұрын
Lol... yeah, watch this space. 😂
@Paul-XCIV2 4 жыл бұрын
Observation: the part of the screw that is buried in the wood is rusting becuase it's in constant contact with the moisture retained in the wood, the exposed parts of those screws didn't because they got wet and then air dried. Bit of a long(!) experiment to see how long before they rust proper and become brittle! 10? 15? years..
@GosforthHandyman 4 жыл бұрын
Indeed! May continue this... 👍😂
@chrisbannister2137 4 жыл бұрын
Andy I’m a fan of the forge fast tool station screws wouldn’t mind your thoughts on them or a review .... plus I’m tx over pz man myself 😜
@GosforthHandyman 4 жыл бұрын
I'm having a screw-buying amnesty! 👍😂
@chrisbannister2137 4 жыл бұрын
Gosforth Handyman no buying I will send you one ( I’m not made of money mind )
@girlsdrinkfeck 4 жыл бұрын
the screws lasted longer than the motor on the brickwork lol, damn frost getting behind the cement there
@GosforthHandyman 4 жыл бұрын
I know, was gonna talk about that... but forgot. The top is about 1" thick in moss! 😂
@simonsrbgatesfencing2811 4 жыл бұрын
decking screws are ok going in but can be a nightmare getting them back out once been in a while
@GosforthHandyman 4 жыл бұрын
Indeed - had some where the heads just snap off. 😢👍
@spring899 4 жыл бұрын
Just proves that northern screws are harder than soft southern screws Andy ! 😆 Gonna miss the podcast btw .
@peterthurwood2267 4 жыл бұрын
nothing wrong with southern screw its how they are made
@GosforthHandyman 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂👍
@captainbirdsi3502 3 жыл бұрын
Speaking from the moist left side of the North, I’m not sure Northern screws are any harder but they are definitely colder, rougher and wetter.
@johnjacobjinglehimerschmid3555 4 жыл бұрын
.... I like that method of recycling. Hate this different bin crap that I've been subject too.
@superiorbeing95 4 жыл бұрын
"Like chalk and cheese" I tried chalk sandwiches but have stuck with cheese ever since I gave it a whirl!
@GosforthHandyman 4 жыл бұрын
Cheesy. 😆
@ardemus 4 жыл бұрын
I'd be more concerned about 10-20 years later for a deck. What would you expect that surface rust to do over another 5-15 years? Also, decks tend to be horizontal, not vertical. Those screws in the post were in open air with no area to trap/collect water, and exposed to sunlight to dry them out. It was the absolute best case scenario for outdoor fasteners. What would happen if you screw two boards together, oversink the screw heads, and put the assembly, screw heads up, flat on the ground, exposed to irrigation and rain but mostly hidden from the sun?
@GosforthHandyman 4 жыл бұрын
See my other test where I left them underwater for ages, but I wouldn't use these screws for decking. 👍
@stevebosun7410 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Andy, surprising results for relatively inexpensive plated screws. It might have been different if you'd screwed them into oak. With the tannic acid in oak, you may well have seen a different result. You mentioned stainless steel screws. Again, buy the best quality you can afford. I've found cheap stainless screws can be a little soft.
@theartistformallyknownasdi5338 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Steve, what Stainless Screws do you recommend? Pls.
@stevebosun7410 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Tafnadd, I guess it does somewhat depend on what you want them for. For example, while Ebay suppliers say they are A2 (sometimes A4) grade, when they come in a zip lock bag with a scribbled label, who knows what you've got. If it's important, ask the supplier where the fasteners come from, how they identify the material grade and if there are any markings on them. I guess like most things, you get what you pay for.
@GosforthHandyman 4 жыл бұрын
Yup - wise words. I might do a proper test of these screws in Oak. 👍
@UberAlphaSirus 4 жыл бұрын
The screwfix ones your using I have never has a problem with them, after all that's how they started their business. They are cheep and good. Spax are overpriced but better. The turbo gold and quick silver head polish up quite nice with a bit of tcut on mdf edge and chucked up in the drill. If you want a strong chrome or brass looking screw. I used to do it in the curtain trade.
@GosforthHandyman 4 жыл бұрын
Indeed! I'd love to know where they're actually made. Just says 'Screws Ltd' on the box I think (a subsidiary of Screwfix). 👍
@Yahatacooky 4 жыл бұрын
Why did you speed up the cleaning of the screws? You know I LOVE watching you clean up.
@GosforthHandyman 4 жыл бұрын
Lol... next time... 😂
@raysmith1992 4 жыл бұрын
You get what you pay for, I use either Screwfix or Tool Station screws, I have used Spax stainless steel decking screws and they are excellent but so is the price.
@GosforthHandyman 4 жыл бұрын
Yup - Spax screws are made in Germany. Not sure where Screwfix and ToolStation screws are made. 👍
@leehackett6643 4 жыл бұрын
A screw in horizontal decking is subjected to a lot more moisture than a screw in a horizontal application, for starters the screw head on a deck screw is submerged when wet as we countersink them.
@oneflymanflies4924 4 жыл бұрын
Lee Hackett think you mean vertical for the second one ☝️
@leehackett6643 4 жыл бұрын
@@oneflymanflies4924 I'm afraid not no, the first part refers to horizontal decking, the second one horizontal screws.
@GosforthHandyman 4 жыл бұрын
Indeed - all true! Still think these would be fine - see my vid where I left them underwater for ages... but obviously use proper decking screws made by a decent brand if possible. 👍
@alecb9439 4 жыл бұрын
So I use a lot of Turbo Golds, like them a lot, but decided to use the stainless steel version in a wet room 10 years ago (at cost). The shower valve failed recently and to replace the valve I had to remove the tiles and AquaPanel board that was held in with both types of turbo gold normal and Stainless. Stainless steel turbo golds had no corrosion, normal ones had minor corrosion. However, the stainless steel ones were very difficult to drive out and heads and shaft often failed before I could remove them from the aqua panel. Out came the reciprocating saw :(. The normal ones drove out fine without any failure of the head or shaft, despite slight corrosion. Both were size 5 at 60mm into softwood frame. Nice video and surprised how well your outdoor test turned out for all the screws!
@ironpirate8 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting, stainless could be more brittle, regardless of whether new or old?
@grahamwhiting6567 4 жыл бұрын
That follows the metallurgy. SS generally work hardens, different grades have different problems. So its not unusual for the heads to break off perfectly sound SS screws at a torque that would be no problem on a normal steel screw. So if you plan to remove a SS screw then use low torque and beware fixings where the tread may get trapped in swollen timber etc. Or use a steel screw with sound pretreatment - passivating is not enough, especially in Oak or Accoya. In Accoya, use the specialist screws sold by the hardware makers for the purpose - these are treated steel, not SS.
@GosforthHandyman 4 жыл бұрын
Useful to know - cheers for the info! 👍
@js8039 4 жыл бұрын
The little spiders are now searching for their screw-shaped Moai.
@GosforthHandyman 4 жыл бұрын
I know - bless 'em! 😂👍
@stevehogg5668 4 жыл бұрын
Can you reinstall them outside for a few more years?
@GosforthHandyman 4 жыл бұрын
Might do after we've moved! 👍
@vileguile4 4 жыл бұрын
I found some poz screws (from IKEA!) and wow, i really prefer those to torx. One bit to rule them all. They would also stick on the bit making life much easier. I'll have to hunt more down or order online. Was the wood impregnated? I love these videos! Thanks :)
@leonk.1031 4 жыл бұрын
Sleepydog No Torx is better, better fit, if you use Würth it’s really one biz to rule them all not with PZ
@GosforthHandyman 4 жыл бұрын
It's down to personal preference really. I also prefer Pozi. PZ2 is all I need for every screw in my common screws box. 👍
@vileguile4 4 жыл бұрын
@@leonk.1031 How do you mean Wûrth? The torx i use are from 10 to .. 30, sometimes 40. Usually i have three different sizes. What one bit can sort that out? Or does Würth sell screws of different sizes but with only one size on the torx?
@leonk.1031 4 жыл бұрын
Sleepydog all Common screw sizes except for the really large ones come in one bit size and they fit pretty tight if you use their bits but if You’re in GB you should know Würth
@vileguile4 4 жыл бұрын
@@leonk.1031 Not in GB but i see they at least have a website ending with .se so it's possible to order from there. Ill see if i can find it. Thanks!
@brutus1808 4 жыл бұрын
The normal screws have held up but if I was putting decks down I'd buy proper decking screws because the deck would be layed down for decades and puddles on the deck but for normal outside use these are perfect for most outdoor projects like benches or like sheds or whatever
@GosforthHandyman 4 жыл бұрын
Oh defo, but the point is that decent normal screws are probably better than cheap decking screws that rust to hell in a matter of weeks. 👍
@PatrickCCarter 2 жыл бұрын
Your voice sounds like a football (soccer) announcer 😂. Thought I was watching sports for a bit there.
@alphasigmasezon8597 4 жыл бұрын
Excelente,
@johnfithian-franks8276 4 жыл бұрын
I wish you had included other screws like drywall, cheap, and your hated posi-drive to see how they faired against the other screws. I would suggest putting them in now and waiting another five years, but at 69 I don't think I will still be around by then. About the weather, I live down the road from you in Stockton-on-tees, and so far this year I am considering trading in my car for a canoe.
@GosforthHandyman 4 жыл бұрын
Ha yeah, I'm ready for Spring like! I might continue the test after we've moved. 😂👍
@johndufton9686 3 жыл бұрын
I live near the coast and normal screws just don't last in the salty corrosive atmosphere.
@Adrianyoutubing 3 жыл бұрын
The biggest problem with screws is people using bloody plasterboard screws outside for stuff! Philip head and rusty!
@tlangdon12 4 жыл бұрын
I think you should put these outside for another 5 years when you move house.
@GosforthHandyman 4 жыл бұрын
Lol I might do! 😂👍
@UberAlphaSirus 4 жыл бұрын
I think you should take the fence with you too!
@Pete.Ty1 4 жыл бұрын
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@GosforthHandyman 4 жыл бұрын
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@WillsB3 4 жыл бұрын
Only one thing left to do with those screw then… pop ‘em back in for another 5 years!
@aljowen 4 жыл бұрын
If these screws can last that long outdoors unprotected, I want to know why my £20 bicycle chain (stored inside the house) started surface corroding the first time I gave it a proper wash and left it to dry...
@UberAlphaSirus 4 жыл бұрын
it's called flash rust. Your doing it wrong..
@aljowen 4 жыл бұрын
@@UberAlphaSirus I sure did do it improperly :p The chain had ingested a lot of mud and grit which when combined with the oil turned into a paste and had then dried. I used diluted isopropyl alcohol rather than proper chain degreaser since its all I had to hand at the time, then gave it a full rinse with water. However, I wiped it down with paper towels afterwards to try limit the opportunities for problems (I'm not a complete monster). But its a mountain bike chain in the UK, its going to get wet often and I had hoped it would have coped with that. In the end the chain still seems to function fine, so I guess it worked out. Even if it does have some small solid patches of shiny brown surface corrosion (almost looks like plating tbh).
@GosforthHandyman 4 жыл бұрын
Easy solution, don't wash it. 😂😉
@aljowen 4 жыл бұрын
@@GosforthHandyman If only xD
@Wroom90 4 жыл бұрын
Id say if you're doing it for yourself you can be a bit more practical. You don't have to follow the rule by every word. The most important thing is to use fasteners according to what kind of lifetime you want to see, and expect. If you're putting up panel on a house I'd use the proper coated screws in expectation that the panel should last maybe 40-50 years. Are you in a inland climate or marine environment? Is it going into treated or untreated wood? Will it be painted? Is it structural? How much will it be exposed to water? Will all of the screw be hidden in wood, or could water condense on it? I remember working in industries where you will barely even find electrolyte-dipped fasteners. Mostly they use stainless steel or galvanized fasteners. However when I started to work for a welder in a inland climate I noticed he was much more practical about grade fasteners.
@GosforthHandyman 4 жыл бұрын
Yup - this is just about general purpose use but defo. research for the individual scenario. 👍
@Psychlist1972 4 жыл бұрын
Ikea police are coming to your house now to collect that bag.
@GosforthHandyman 4 жыл бұрын
Lol - is that not a bought one?? It's very old... and sticky. 😂😂
@MrSmid888 4 жыл бұрын
By the time a screw rusts in a fence job I’ve already drank the money and survived the Coronavirus 😬
@Bill.L.Carroll 4 жыл бұрын
"One last video" Sounds like the words of an addict! 🤔🤣🤣🤣 Didn't expect that result. 👍🏽
@GosforthHandyman 4 жыл бұрын
Lol I know, I need to stop talking about screws now. 😂
@paulfwsjones 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Bud, bang em back in and leave em for another 5
@GosforthHandyman 4 жыл бұрын
Might do after I've moved! 👍
@llljustcallhimdave 4 жыл бұрын
Another screw video!! Screw it I'm going to watch it any way
@GosforthHandyman 4 жыл бұрын
Lol... this should by my last for a while. 😂
@dianabainbridge9561 3 жыл бұрын
Golden Rule: If it's outdoors use galvies (galvanized Hardwear
@Mr_Judge_Benny_Hinn 4 жыл бұрын
yes live stream and gate swinging...
@GosforthHandyman 4 жыл бұрын
Lol... there's a niche channel! 😂
@greaser5691 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe put them back in and report back in 2025? I'd like to see if that rusty one is somewhat shorter then, now that it's passivation coating is well and truly gone. :)
@GosforthHandyman 4 жыл бұрын
Might do! 👍😂
@markbryan9989 4 жыл бұрын
Bottom line.... when screwing outside you should have no problem unless your neighbor takes a fence. Sorry. Thanks Andy!
@seanmoon2746 3 жыл бұрын
And not one robbie in the lot. Seeing nothing but phillips made me cringe.
@lapisredux 4 жыл бұрын
wait what ?....farming simulator 19?........good grief!! .....why when there's drying paint to watch ?
@GosforthHandyman 4 жыл бұрын
Try it! 😂👍😂
@JohnComeOnMan 4 жыл бұрын
This whole thing is a bit screwy.
@joncarter3038 4 жыл бұрын
Christ, I must have alzheimers! I wouldn't even remember that I'd put the bloody things there five years ago. In fact I'd be saying to my wife, "look at this some git has put five screws into our fence"...Yep, guess I'm screwed.
@GosforthHandyman 4 жыл бұрын
Lol, well I did nearly forget about them but as we're moving house... 😂👍
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