History of WWI Primer 026: Austro-Hungarian Roth-Krnka M.7 Pistol Documentary

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8 жыл бұрын

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Othais and Mae delve into the story of this WWI classic. Complete with history, function, and live fire demonstration.
C&Rsenal presents its WWI Primer series; covering the firearms of this historic conflict one at a time in honor of the centennial anniversary. Join us every other Tuesday!
Cartridge: 8x19mm
Capacity: 10 rnds
Length: 9.1"
weight: 2.25 lbs
Additional reading:
Vom Ursprung der Selbstladepistole: Repetier- und Selbstladepistolen in Österreich-Ungarn 1884 bis 1918
Mötz, Schuy
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@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 8 жыл бұрын
Great video! My only quibble would be about the clips. I have 3 clips for mine, and have found them to be the best type of stripper clip I've ever used, especially considering it holds 10 rounds instead of 5 or 8. Perhaps you had a clip that isn't in good condition? I found that with a good swift push, all ten rounds load nice and smoothly almost every time, even when reloading on the clock.
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 8 жыл бұрын
I probably should have specified that they really are better than most others by far. Mae just doesn't seem to care for them over all. You'll have to put this on display properly for us!
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 8 жыл бұрын
I ran a steel match with my 1907 last weekend, and will be posting the video in a few weeks. :)
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 8 жыл бұрын
Forgotten Weapons Sweet
@mooslionheart
@mooslionheart 3 жыл бұрын
As Mae’s second it is hereby declared that “the gauntlet has been thrown” by Ian and demand satisfaction! A duel of loading - not firing per KZfaq regulations - Roth Krnka M7s “space pistols” at dawn on Tatooine😀
@tfbtv
@tfbtv 8 жыл бұрын
Fantastic episode! Best gun channel on YouTu... Err, uh... Nicely done.
@mattdickson2
@mattdickson2 8 жыл бұрын
hahaha
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 8 жыл бұрын
OK but which one is you?
@zman1508
@zman1508 8 жыл бұрын
Im not so sure he hasn't done any top 10 or 5 lists yet even though the hobos keep asking
@SlavicCelery
@SlavicCelery 8 жыл бұрын
Have you thought about run and Gun's with another gun channel?
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 8 жыл бұрын
Timothy Soen We're sorta isolated on the east coast. Not an easy trip to make when we're slammed with production.
@86gwrhino
@86gwrhino 6 жыл бұрын
I recently took a trip to the Heeresgeschichtliches (Austrian Military Museum) in Vienna, where they have several of these on display. None of the description tags said Roth-Steyr, but Roth-krnka, suggesting the Austrians refer to it as such. Side note, the museum also had an original girandoni air rifle tucked in a corner that I geeked out over.
@mo45327
@mo45327 8 жыл бұрын
You sir have perfectly summed up Austro-Hungarian Empire in two sentences :)
@nirfz
@nirfz 8 жыл бұрын
I would say not only the AH Empire because in some cases there is no difference to today ;-)
@MayheM_72
@MayheM_72 4 жыл бұрын
In all the newer episodes, I miss Mae's commentary during the shooting stage. I still love her satisfied smile once the gun is empty.
@SunnyAznable
@SunnyAznable 7 жыл бұрын
Always love these early European automatics, there's a charm to the clunky odd appearance of them- some like the Mars even manage to go so far down that road they genuinely look good. Amazing video as always. I've been watching these for a very long time as I type a lab report and my night has flown by!
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын
You're going to be sad when you catch up. We're slow :(
@SunnyAznable
@SunnyAznable 7 жыл бұрын
Not at all, I have a plan! Fanfiction. 'Thanks to a mysterious inheritance, today we shall review... the Paris Gun!' I mean if it's fiction I might as well shoot for the moon.
@richardhsiung7007
@richardhsiung7007 7 жыл бұрын
your light-box product shots, animations and drawings are great.
@aries_9130
@aries_9130 8 жыл бұрын
Oh boy, almost one hour of glorious, GLORIOUS weird old gun stuff! :D Joking aside, great episode, as usual :)
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@paullytle246
@paullytle246 7 жыл бұрын
vich is pronounced veach
@dobypilgrim6160
@dobypilgrim6160 8 жыл бұрын
Some people may complain about the length of this video - but I congratulate you all for this episode. This has to be the definitive video on the Roth 1907 on KZfaq. Congratulations once again on it.
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks! We just sorta write out the facts we think we can convey and are worth depicting (some nuance is abandoned or coalesced) and just film it until it's all said. Some longer, some shorter.
@jmarriottc
@jmarriottc 8 жыл бұрын
Supremely fascinating, honestly people would think 1hr on a WW1 pistol development would seem like a lot. It was awesome, great job
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@fredklein724
@fredklein724 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for presenting this pistol. This was my grandfather's side arm in WW1, when he was an artillery man in the Balkans. His major complaint was the anemic cartridge, and it's lack of stopping power when the Serbians charged their guns!
@kizmetmars
@kizmetmars 8 жыл бұрын
Looks like you'd use it in a pinball machine. You know, to "shoot" the ball.
@trenchfighter8778
@trenchfighter8778 8 жыл бұрын
omg it does
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 8 жыл бұрын
I can see it
@canicheenrage
@canicheenrage 8 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about the pistol version of the soldering removal synringes.
@chinesesparrows
@chinesesparrows 8 жыл бұрын
Shoot the ball like a mannlicher?
@robertneal4244
@robertneal4244 8 жыл бұрын
There may be a later and more comprehensive comment from me...but just now as I was eating a tortilla chip and watching this. Your line about the "lazy and annoying empire" made me laugh and then clean up bits of semi-chewed tortilla chip from my screen and keyboard.
@caseyreavis
@caseyreavis 8 жыл бұрын
Othais hit the nail on the head as far as the size of that... thing. i'd only seen pictures of it and I never realized it was bigger than a 1911 which is insane.
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 8 жыл бұрын
Right?!
@mcfontaine
@mcfontaine 8 жыл бұрын
So much brilliant research, well done guys. I love the episodes the longer they get.
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 8 жыл бұрын
Glad to do it!
@raymondgill9796
@raymondgill9796 8 жыл бұрын
An hour just flew by in well presented and researched education/entertainment. Thank You
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@ThisSiteisCrap
@ThisSiteisCrap 8 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love this channel and I'm reeeaaaaallly jealous of your collections. Thank you so much for putting so much effort into this channel. I for one really appreciate it
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@BikerJim74
@BikerJim74 8 жыл бұрын
Great job. My last name is Roth, had no idea this gun even existed until today.
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 8 жыл бұрын
tsk tsk tsk
@BikerJim74
@BikerJim74 8 жыл бұрын
ikr?
@ultramagnus4374
@ultramagnus4374 5 жыл бұрын
The David Lee Roth-Krnka
@raymondkisner9240
@raymondkisner9240 5 жыл бұрын
🐈
@michaelholmes3724
@michaelholmes3724 5 жыл бұрын
Just bought a Roth-Krnka made in 1909. Unit marked for the 8th Dragoon Regiment. I watched this video awhile ago, but had to go back and rewatch it after picking mine up. Awesome pistol. Now time to do the impossible... track down ammo and a stripper clip.
@markotesla2016
@markotesla2016 7 жыл бұрын
The droid you were looking for is Vasilije Teodorovic (Vasa is short for Vasilije).
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@williamprince1114
@williamprince1114 8 жыл бұрын
Well done as always. Your research and scholarship is great but your delivery makes it so understandable and relatable.
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@ZerokillerOppel1
@ZerokillerOppel1 Жыл бұрын
And funny...don't know if even Othias knows it himself but a great comedian has been lost to him....I hear so many one liners come by...btw.. Mae's funny as hell too...and...sorry Othias...more pleasing to the eye imo.
@PositionLight
@PositionLight 8 жыл бұрын
You forgot that another reason for stripper clip pistols is that for the mounted soldier this was their primary weapon (I think Ian on forgotten weapons said each trooper was issued with two pistols). Loading a single feed pistol mag is a major pain in the ass. You will always be able to load faster and more efficiently in the long run with a stripper clip system. Today, pistols are purely backup weapons so nobody ever considers needing to shoot one in combat all day. Watch Ian's video because his Styer pistols load smoothly from the clip every time.
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 8 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure I've seen Austro-Hungarian cavalry without a carbine of some sort in addition to the pistol. I'd have to do some source checking to back that. To my understanding the slow loading was acceptable precisely because it was a secondary weapon.
@taterporkchop
@taterporkchop 8 жыл бұрын
Mae! Nice haircut! You too Othais! I miss my hair........but never a C&Rsenal episode.
@mynameismin3
@mynameismin3 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great episode
@nordicnostalgia8106
@nordicnostalgia8106 8 жыл бұрын
I had to pause and repeat when he mentioned kroners. That's neat. They too used kroners. In name only, probably. The Scandinavian kroners have more in common, such as currency strength.
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah Euro's weren't ready until at least 1930
@alexruddock9596
@alexruddock9596 8 жыл бұрын
Othias, it is the hair on your face that counts! Another excellent video. Keep up the good work.
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I keep extra food in it.
@cariboupetepeterson3711
@cariboupetepeterson3711 8 жыл бұрын
Excellent series! Well done!
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@tmikesecrist3
@tmikesecrist3 7 жыл бұрын
the striper clip seems to work better in a rifle then in a pistol?
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын
Yup
@milgeekmedia
@milgeekmedia 6 жыл бұрын
Could it be because it's usually 5 longer rounds in a rifle clip rather than 10 very short rounds in this pistol. I'm sure there are some physics/trigonometry at work here that explains the issue.
@MRbreakthroughx
@MRbreakthroughx 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah more austro-hungary!
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 8 жыл бұрын
So weird
@MRbreakthroughx
@MRbreakthroughx 8 жыл бұрын
+C&Rsenal okaaayy
@shawnbane585
@shawnbane585 8 жыл бұрын
Saw you guys on Indy's great war page. Always liked the old guns and how they work.
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 8 жыл бұрын
Glad you're enjoying it!
@Jamz-
@Jamz- 8 жыл бұрын
Video was interesting. Thanks C&Rsenal keep up the great work!
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@Jamz-
@Jamz- 8 жыл бұрын
+C&Rsenal Always Welcome! 😃
@Lomi311
@Lomi311 2 жыл бұрын
Love getting to play with odd guns like this in Tannenberg.
@worldtraveler930
@worldtraveler930 2 жыл бұрын
I've always enjoyed the architecture of this particular model so much I would love to see this brought back as a double stack 45 ACP!!! 🤠👍
@feldweible
@feldweible 8 жыл бұрын
Yay! I was hoping that you'd get to this one. I have an original that was carried by a relative in the Austrian Army in WWI.
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 8 жыл бұрын
Lucky
@backblaise1255
@backblaise1255 3 жыл бұрын
I am watching again from the start of Primer, living what I have not already; and adding comments to bulk up for the algorithm.
@cannonlove2
@cannonlove2 8 жыл бұрын
othias love the vid man excellent narration
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@chriscoop81
@chriscoop81 7 жыл бұрын
Looks like something Marvin the Martian would have used
@jackalvzz
@jackalvzz 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, keep up the good work!!!!!!!!
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@robertl6196
@robertl6196 8 жыл бұрын
Nice episode guys. One of my favorite pistols in its oddball glory. The A-H Empire was fertile grounds for some unorthodox engineering.
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 8 жыл бұрын
I love AH everything
@worldtraveler930
@worldtraveler930 Жыл бұрын
@@Candrsenal You and me both!!! 🤠👍
@AzureRoseMarshal
@AzureRoseMarshal 9 ай бұрын
@@worldtraveler930this can be taken another way…
@Taurevanime
@Taurevanime 7 жыл бұрын
It is mentioned that the grips on the gun cause a little callous forming after a day of shooting. But as a cavalry pistol, and one from the early 20th century. It very well may have been intended to be used with a gloved hand. That may be a little more comfortable. But since this gun is a loan piece, there isn't really a way to go back and see if. Either way great episode, I learned a lot. Thank you.
@twistedsaltypretzel7727
@twistedsaltypretzel7727 Жыл бұрын
Gotta love the style of late 19th century autos. Very cool!
@haboob308
@haboob308 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video, Othais and crew! I am with Othais, it reminds me of NERF gun.
@poop-for-brains
@poop-for-brains 8 жыл бұрын
God damn, Othias. I may have just finished my bachelor's in history, and continued on from that point working a job that does not concern my favorite subject, but your presentation and reminders to FACT CHECK make me so giddy. My plan has always been to continue my education, in that regard, but having your example, among others, really help continue my drive. Cheers, man!
@poop-for-brains
@poop-for-brains 8 жыл бұрын
Also, lazy, annoying empire? Sounds about right! Up there with the Holy Roman Empire, known because it was not holy, nor Roman, nor an empire. I salute thee.
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 8 жыл бұрын
Oh no, we meant pistols.
@poop-for-brains
@poop-for-brains 8 жыл бұрын
Now I want to hunt down a C-96 just to see the difference.
@evanulven8249
@evanulven8249 4 жыл бұрын
That is an outright Star Wars looking pistol. I love it.
@GR46404
@GR46404 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this video, which is a fascinating trove of information that I had never heard before about the Roth 1907 and the history of Austro-Hungarian pistols. It is a a delight to find videos that so match my interest in both the history, mechanical design, and shootability of pistols. I would also like to say two things I have have always thought about the Roth 1907: 1) The trigger mechanism is a precursor of the Glock's, in that it relies on a long springy pull for safety, and dispenses with a manual safety. 2) As far as I can tell, the tubular housing that encloses the barrel assembly is MACHINED FROM SOLID, even though it is the thickness of sheet metal. I could be wrong about this,, because it would be fantastically laborious to make if I am right.
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын
I too believe it is machined
@worldtraveler930
@worldtraveler930 Жыл бұрын
I had an opportunity to buy one back in the eighties at a gun show for an excellent price but stepped away from it because of its lack of ammo in that day and age!!! 🤠👍
@MRbreakthroughx
@MRbreakthroughx 8 жыл бұрын
Interesting episode!
@CyLonFPV
@CyLonFPV 8 жыл бұрын
Almost a hour long vid from C&R! what a treat! What a interesting way to approach a auto loading pistol. Its really kool that you give us the opportunities to enjoy and get educated on some of these unique weapons. Like you I always thought this was just another small European pistol something like a .32. boy was I wrong! That thing is a beast! How long did it take you to get it back together? I sure wouldn't want to be a cavalryman trying to do a fast reload on that thing while at full gallop, reigns and pistol in one hand, stripper in the other, trying to keep the horse going where you want while forcing that clip would be a real challenge. Mae's hair looks great! :)
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Actually assembly was quite easy. The gun is very simple and wonderfully pain free to use.
@nirfz
@nirfz 8 жыл бұрын
Well there's a video from forgotton weapons where they say that cavalry men were equiped with 1 pistol on their hip and 2 on the front of the saddle (i hope i remembered that right) So no reload but reholstering and getting the next one.
@CyLonFPV
@CyLonFPV 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply nirfz, I forgot that cavalry soldiers usually had more than one weapon, probably a carbine, couple of pistols and a saber.
@nirfz
@nirfz 8 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@morriganmhor5078
@morriganmhor5078 Жыл бұрын
If you trained with Colt SAA, you would be OK.
@thurin84
@thurin84 8 жыл бұрын
excellent as always! love this bizaro guns!
@BattleManiac7
@BattleManiac7 8 жыл бұрын
This gun looks so cool! I think its one of the nicer looking guns featured on the show so far.
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 8 жыл бұрын
Apparently its appearance is divisive
@XLesky
@XLesky 8 жыл бұрын
Great work again guys
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 8 жыл бұрын
THANKS
@mencken8
@mencken8 3 жыл бұрын
Love the animation.
@DennisBozic
@DennisBozic 7 жыл бұрын
Another great episode in your outstandig series. Will there also be an episode on the Frommer Stop in the near future?
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын
Hopefully
@DennisBozic
@DennisBozic 7 жыл бұрын
OK 👍
@danielhall6354
@danielhall6354 8 жыл бұрын
looks really cool
@demos113
@demos113 8 жыл бұрын
Wonderful vid and good luck with your new Battlewagon. :)
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 8 жыл бұрын
Well we're 600 miles out and doing OK... except the power steering pump is pissed. But not leaking... sooo damnit.
@soylentgreen7074
@soylentgreen7074 8 жыл бұрын
I know this channels just getting started and we have lots of WWI weapons and history left to learn(which is awesome) but , do you guys thinks years down the road you'll cover WWII? And once "The Great War" channel is done will he move on to WWII also? No rush love the videos, not as much out there for WWI. So many crazy things happened no ones knows about. Keep up the great work.
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 8 жыл бұрын
Sure, once we have this wrapped up.
@Matt_The_Hugenot
@Matt_The_Hugenot 8 жыл бұрын
Getting better and better.
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@Peter-der-gute-vegane-Hirte
@Peter-der-gute-vegane-Hirte 7 жыл бұрын
9x19 para is not deadly, i carry the war proven .32 ACP! Thats the minimum of manstoppower.
@burkefj
@burkefj 7 жыл бұрын
Great videos, I've found that using the manual slide lock before trying to use the stripper clip makes it much easier to use and manipulate. In fact with the manual slide lock you can load the magazine directly without using a stripper clip, I do the same thing with the steyr-hahn using the slide lock. Also, I find it interesting that nearly 100 years before the glock, here is a striker fired austrian pistol....
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын
Definitely easier
@curiobill
@curiobill 7 жыл бұрын
Another excellent video on an amazing weapon!!! Many thanks!!! Are there any current reproductions of the stripper clips?
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын
Not that I know of
@kenjackson4177
@kenjackson4177 8 жыл бұрын
Your videos and reviews are fantastic! Can you please include some of the old British guns.
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 8 жыл бұрын
We just did the P14
@spigotsandcogs
@spigotsandcogs 8 жыл бұрын
Welp, you did it. You found a pistol more awkward looking than the Bodeo.
@evandaire1449
@evandaire1449 8 жыл бұрын
And also larger than the reichsrevolver at the same time too. That's quite a feat.
@killersauresrex
@killersauresrex 8 жыл бұрын
You could dig deeper for the Kolibri pistol
@jackandersen1262
@jackandersen1262 5 жыл бұрын
spigotsandcogs you sure you’re not forgetting the Frommer 1901?
@beargillium2369
@beargillium2369 Жыл бұрын
Maybe I watch too much forgotten weapons... Looks totally normal to me 🤠
@ZerokillerOppel1
@ZerokillerOppel1 Жыл бұрын
@@beargillium2369 🤣🤣Same here...there is a reason why some weapons are forgotten...but they are so interesting to watch....this time frame especially has my deepest interest: say roughly the 1880's - 1920's...so many evolutions and inventions whether they be dreadnoughts, (naval) artillery, bolt action rifles, revolvers, automatic pistols/rifles,etc etc.. watch Drachinifel here on YT if you're interested in naval stuff.
@maxheadspace2975
@maxheadspace2975 8 жыл бұрын
Excellent priduction! If you would PLEASE include a list of all related patents in the description of each epesode it would be very much appreciated. Thanks.
@mo45327
@mo45327 8 жыл бұрын
That would be awesome!
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 8 жыл бұрын
Sure, I could start keeping a list and some espace links. I'll build it into the planning/writing phase.
@mo45327
@mo45327 8 жыл бұрын
C&Rsenal Thank you!
@pilgrimm23
@pilgrimm23 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks; I own thos pistol. Othas you are the first I have seen strip it RIGHT. Did you know that the stipper clips are more rare even then the gun? I have looked for a clip for 20+ years with no sucess. WELL done episole with excellent information. you hit it out of the park. AGAIN
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 8 жыл бұрын
THANKS!
@adminmod7837
@adminmod7837 8 жыл бұрын
Great episode,as always!Any chance to see one regarding Roth-Sauer?
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 8 жыл бұрын
We left room if we can find one
@adminmod7837
@adminmod7837 8 жыл бұрын
Hopefully you find one, ``the thing `` is a work of art.
@Jesses001
@Jesses001 8 жыл бұрын
It really did not pay to be a firearm designer in Europe during that time that is for sure.
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 8 жыл бұрын
I dunno the rock stars did all right
@Jesses001
@Jesses001 8 жыл бұрын
Yes but they sure worked for it, ha.
@Hsutheguard
@Hsutheguard 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah! New episode
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 8 жыл бұрын
How did it go?
@Hsutheguard
@Hsutheguard 8 жыл бұрын
C&Rsenal finger lickin good
@Haydn8oR
@Haydn8oR Жыл бұрын
I know this videos old, but I saw "499 comments" and figured I'd unofficially be the 500th. Interesting video, hope to see more Austrian weapon videos, expecially after binging a Mauser playlist and combining it with their German playlist for my own enjoyment
@Lomi311
@Lomi311 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Mae ever got to try a different stripper clip with a 1907. Ian’s on Forgotten weapons were pretty slick.
@borkwoof696
@borkwoof696 8 жыл бұрын
Well done!
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@gunslinger2172
@gunslinger2172 7 жыл бұрын
This gun reminds me of the Ruger Mk1 or MK2 22 LR auto loader in a strnge way , especially with that bolt!
@engellenkatu
@engellenkatu 6 жыл бұрын
another great episode. love these old guns. hans solo here's a pistol for you
@gunslinger2172
@gunslinger2172 7 жыл бұрын
Cute hair cut Mae!
@Xeno426
@Xeno426 8 жыл бұрын
The light grey of those metric values on the ammunition graph are still rather difficult to make out against the white background. Perhaps a dark grey would be better. Still, good episode. And a LOT longer than normal. Quite surprising, really. :)
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 8 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@Justice-ian
@Justice-ian 4 жыл бұрын
Love the video (all of them, really), but strongly disagree with your assertion that the cartridge is "underpowered" or disproportionate to the locked-breech action. 8x19 (115@1090) is close on the heels of the classic 9mm ball load (115@1150) despite: -1mm less diameter (smaller powder chamber) -Less outward taper toward the base (further reduction in powder chamber) -Same-weight (despite being a full millimeter smaller in diameter) bullet - therefore longer in a similar COAL; therefore, significant further reduction in powder chamber. -None of the above derived from some proprietary, controlled-burn unobtainium 2015 powder from Underwood or Buffalo Bore, but first-gen smokeless! All of this adds up to equal (or likely greater) pressure to 9mm Para, i.e. at least twice that of the contemporary .45 ACP - hardly a creampuff.
@rektalmort
@rektalmort 8 жыл бұрын
As usual... Three thumbs up!
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Procket12
@Procket12 8 жыл бұрын
There was a stripper clip fed pistol that actually had a guide piece on the back of the clip that you could push down on to make loading it easier but I forgot what it was.
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 8 жыл бұрын
what?
@nicholasford4820
@nicholasford4820 8 жыл бұрын
Great video! I'm curious what you were using for ammo, and if you had issues getting the gun to function. The Fiocchi stuff I've tried in mine won't cycle the action at all.
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 8 жыл бұрын
Fiocchi was great for us!
@worldtraveler930
@worldtraveler930 Жыл бұрын
I have always found Fiocchi I to be Utter Trash and a Total Waste of money, Not Once have I Ever had success from that ammo brand!!! 🤠👍
@paulwhite959
@paulwhite959 7 жыл бұрын
is there any chance of videos about some of these designers and their careers?
@BATMAN777888
@BATMAN777888 5 жыл бұрын
Beautiful haircut Mae.
@SigurdKristvik
@SigurdKristvik 8 жыл бұрын
I love both of you two :D
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 8 жыл бұрын
no u.
@strangefolkprimary4837
@strangefolkprimary4837 8 жыл бұрын
Picked up my Steyr Hahn, the thing barely works. But man, can't help but love these old Austro-Hungarian designs.
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 8 жыл бұрын
What did you do?
@wilsonj4705
@wilsonj4705 5 жыл бұрын
32:48. A lot of keyholing there. Rifling shot out and/or undersized bullets?
@Lomi311
@Lomi311 8 ай бұрын
The 2 stage trigger in a pistol is just wild.
@brucestein988
@brucestein988 8 жыл бұрын
Ian of Forgotten Weapons posted a video (on Full 30) of him at a run and gun match shooting this pistol (he calls it Roth-Steyr). During the match, he had a malfunction involving the magazine and a failure to extract and double feed. I wonder if this is the same problem you were referring to?
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 8 жыл бұрын
There is a tendency, but it may be the old extractors
@Whitefang8128
@Whitefang8128 8 жыл бұрын
Great video series, very well thought-out and edited. It's pronounced 'birming-um' btw.
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@the_major
@the_major 8 жыл бұрын
I really liked that you compared the Roth-krnka price to those of other guns at the time. What a nice feature! If it's not too much to ask, could you do this for other pistols and firearms going forward (assuming it was sold)? I like having a cost comparison. If you could even include a dollar (and pounds for the british viewers) conversion, that would be fantastic! Again, a wonderful video!
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 8 жыл бұрын
It depends on if I have the data handy. Our sources are wide and varied and rarely include the same sorts of info.
@the_major
@the_major 8 жыл бұрын
I understand. Thanks for the great series!
@TechNWRO
@TechNWRO 8 жыл бұрын
I was not expecting that much muzzle flip with what appears to be a muzzle heavy design. What is the bullet weight and velocity of that cartridge?
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 8 жыл бұрын
same load as the data graph
@dennisdempsey6011
@dennisdempsey6011 7 жыл бұрын
mention the N.R.A. museum, what parts of the colection would you recomend as I will be in VA. at the end of the month?
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын
Oh I think you will default to "all of it"
@johnaffleck6572
@johnaffleck6572 8 жыл бұрын
I was kind of surprised when she actually shot it; I thought maybe it was an elaborate April Fool;s joke.
@umjackd
@umjackd 8 жыл бұрын
Hey Othais, just a little tip for Balkan Slavic names. I don't have the character on my keyboard, but the c at the end of the name is pronounced like a ch. Great episode! Thanks!
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@wangl601
@wangl601 8 жыл бұрын
Finally! A nice video about this COOL pistol! Great job!A pre-set striker? Uh....Glock borrowed it from this gun, maybe? (they are both from Austia)
@loranzobaker7293
@loranzobaker7293 4 жыл бұрын
That does make me wonder what cartridge would be better suited for the action. I get they’re a piece of history and could be somewhat rare. But i would love to see a modified one with a cartridge that would be the best viable option for the gun. That would use it for it’s best potential.
@bunk95
@bunk95 6 ай бұрын
To do what?
@WildBillCox13
@WildBillCox13 7 жыл бұрын
Seven in the heart . . . . Mae . . . . I'd be smiling, too.
@TheWozWizard
@TheWozWizard 4 жыл бұрын
Roth Stery Model 1907 in the movies: "Stolen Holiday" 1937 with Claude Rains, Kay Francis, and Ian Hunter. Supposedly, Claude Rains uses a Roth Stery M1907 to kill himself at time hack 1:17:27.
@robertneal4244
@robertneal4244 8 жыл бұрын
Is it the angle of the magazine or the transition area just above the magazine that makes that stripper clip harder to use than, say a Mauser C96's or was it something else?
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 8 жыл бұрын
They are all roughly the same in difficulty. You have a narrow, two point clip-in at best. You're trying to shove cylinders down one another on the round sides as they are retained only at the thinnest lip at their far edge. They want to go anywhere BUT into the magazine. Then the mag has an interrupter that must be lipped over repeatedly. If you don't shove fully down, inserting your thumb all the way in, possibly bending your fingernail if you're not careful, you may have a round or two flop loose or cause a double-feed. Sometimes you think you have it and when you yank the clip one manages to pop up and cause the same. It's an... art.
@johndallman2692
@johndallman2692 5 жыл бұрын
The size makes me wonder if the A-H cavalry were still thinking in terms of clubbing people with the gun. That was standard practice in the single-shot days. How would it stand up to such treatment?
@mattabesta
@mattabesta 8 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if this a terrible suggestion or not but I'd like to see you guys do the bit where May shoots the gun a bit more in the open, wider angles, have Othais there and talk about the gun with it there outside. I don't know maybe it's too hard.
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 8 жыл бұрын
I'm afraid keeping the shooting and history separate have been really helpful in splitting up the labor on the episodes. More angles we can always work on. We're in the middle of re-standardizing rifle shooting shots and then can go back and review both them and pistols for better stuff.
@HuizeFRoos
@HuizeFRoos 8 жыл бұрын
I second the suggestion on wider angles. Mae is shooting because of size comparison and especially rifles would show this better at a wider angle. It would also show the recoil better. ( Also keep up the good work! love the show.)
@mattabesta
@mattabesta 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply :D. Tottally makes sense with the shooting and history, I mean this channel might not have the largest number of videos on youtube but it's probably some of the thickest and interesting material on yt.
@DudeNumberOnePlus
@DudeNumberOnePlus 8 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the bolt could back then be used as "prior art" against browning telescoping bolt patents.
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 8 жыл бұрын
hmmm never really thought about that one but you're right.
@colnagocowboy
@colnagocowboy 7 жыл бұрын
i think, ive seen all of these now. not, on time and, not in order but i seen them all
@Candrsenal
@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын
Dang. How as the random quality?
@colnagocowboy
@colnagocowboy 7 жыл бұрын
C&Rsenal. quality is fine but as ive said elsewhere im sort of lost in all these 32's an finial overall summary would be nice
@colnagocowboy
@colnagocowboy 7 жыл бұрын
C&Rsenal no complaints with quality. just a little lustand envy.
@TheFilot224
@TheFilot224 Жыл бұрын
What is the square button above the magazine release button for?
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