History of WWI Primer 038: Austro-Hungarian Mannlicher 1886 to 1888-90 Documentary

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Othais and Mae delve into the story of this WWI classic. Complete with history, function, and live fire demonstration.
C&Rsenal presents its WWI Primer series; covering the firearms of this historic conflict one at a time in honor of the centennial anniversary. Join us every other Tuesday!
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Othais and Mae delve into the story of this WWI classic. Complete with history, function, and live
fire demonstration.
C&Rsenal presents its WWI Primer series; covering the firearms of this historic conflict one at a
time in honor of the centennial anniversary. Join us every other Tuesday!
Model 1886
Cartridge: 11x58mmR
Capacity: 5 rnds
Length: 52"
weight: 10lbs
Model 1888/90
Cartridge: 8x50mmR
Capacity: 5 rnds
Length: 50.4"
weight: 9.9lbs
Additional reading:
Die Hand- und Faustfeuerwaffen der habsburgischen Heere
Erich Gabriel
Repetier- und Automatische Handfeuer Waffen
Konrad Edler von Kromar
Mannlicher Rifles and Pistols (tranlated from above)
Walter H. B. Smith
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@umjackd 7 жыл бұрын

"[The Boxer Rebellion] was the imperial social event of the century and every army that was any army had to be there. it was so embarassing if you didn't go and shoot at Chinese people." So many great Othais quotes this episode.

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

go me

@patriot17764th 2 жыл бұрын

ya hear it was big.

@patriot17764th 2 жыл бұрын

ya hear it was a big event eh?

@alexs5744 2 жыл бұрын

If you read anything on the Boxers they deserved it. They were thugs and bullies.

@seanbeadles7421 2 жыл бұрын

@@alexs5744 and the western powers in China weren’t bullies too? China was a violent mess back then (still is a mess but for entirely different reasons)

@MrMzr-er7kb 7 жыл бұрын

"Imperial social event of the century."

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

Bring your best uniform!

@-oiiio-3993 3 жыл бұрын

@@Candrsenal Und pickelhaube!

@zagrosgh8641 2 жыл бұрын

@@Candrsenal Please enable Persian subtitles for all your work.

@NAATHAAN 4 ай бұрын

@@Candrsenal gonna get that new Stahlhelm drip

@mo45327 7 жыл бұрын

Austro-Hungarian reaction to the 71/84 was spot on xD

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

Yes, they adopted a repeater.

@joearnold6881 7 жыл бұрын

I cant wait for the patent to run out on the Pokey Hand. I'm gonna make bank selling generic 'Pointy Hands'

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

good plan.

@britishmuzzleloaders 7 жыл бұрын

Love the shot when Mae shoulders the '86... Gotta love a big bore... "that's gonna hurt..... you could loose a war.... "..... love it.

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

Elbows are important.

@josephsatricleofevillanuev3194 6 жыл бұрын

Dude, when's the Werndl single shot rifle gonna be put in the show? Looking forward to it in 2018 or 2019.

@BNRmatt 7 жыл бұрын

"Old dirty Ferdy" had me rolling.

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

Did you hit any furniture?

@Biker_Gremling 7 жыл бұрын

"I like the smell of black powder" - Mae 2016

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

yes

@hangonsnoop 3 жыл бұрын

Is it better than napalm?

@-oiiio-3993 3 жыл бұрын

@@hangonsnoop Or Cordite?

@3asianassassin 3 жыл бұрын

@@hangonsnoop considering something's dead and not suffering agony, yes

@C.macaraeg 7 жыл бұрын

About to go to bed, but 1hr video on old school small arms? Rip sleeping schedule

@blinkyoureyes1400 7 жыл бұрын

We hardly knew thee....

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

my bad

@ZerokillerOppel1 7 жыл бұрын

History classes by Othias and Mae. I love you guys. Your channel goes into so much depth!!! Highly informative!!!

@maewinchester2030 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@twogunsnoammo8419 5 жыл бұрын

The bicycle ring got me.

@Darkrunn 6 жыл бұрын

I really like all of the context you give to each gun design. The company history, designer bio, military trials and adoption, etc.. It's one thing to just make a "review" of the gun, and many gun channels stop there, but you guys really go the extra mile and teach the history of firearms. Reminds me of the old "tales of the gun" documentary series I used to watch as a kid, back when history channel was a channel about history.

@TitusCastiglione1503 2 жыл бұрын

That time seems like a distant memory now

@robertneal4244 7 жыл бұрын

What I really like about these rifles is the magazine system. While it was a compromise from what Mannlicher originally wanted, it works. Also when the clip falls from the magazine. it acts as a warning to the shooter that they are on the last cartridge BEFORE you pull the trigger. In the chaos of war things like this helps you keep your composure for continuing to fire and replace magazines. It also doesn't fly up with a loud "ping" like the M1 Garand, which can alert nearby enemies that you are changing magazines. Great video as always.

@ItsBodin 7 жыл бұрын

Robert Neal seeing a silent clip falling from your rifle during a battle isnt going to happen due to the fact your aiming down sight and the rifle will block that view. During the time of the M1 war was so chaotic that that little ping sound would be the last thing you hear because you know screaming gun shots artillery.

@SigurdKristvik 7 жыл бұрын

I agree with Krisobro98, M1 Garand are battle rifles, they are not meant for commandos anyway. and that's WW2, not WW1 where commando operations were not invented tactically.

@gannonwoods2456 7 жыл бұрын

The Garand clip ping is an absolute myth. No one can hear your ping in battle, the enemy does not recognize the sound, and even if you are out of ammo, your other 9 squad mates aren't. Please stop repeating this horrible lie

@gannonwoods2456 7 жыл бұрын

I disagree. The M1 was far more reliable than the g41 or g43. It was also more accurate than the svt40. It's easier to load an M1 too

@diobrando2575 7 жыл бұрын

jpc1918 it was the type 38 arisaka.

@jeyendeoso 7 жыл бұрын

Maybe in the future you guys could do a "Mae's top 10 rifles", "Othais top 10 handguns" and some other short things like these :)

@jabben00 7 жыл бұрын

|T-Bside| Jey XP Maybe not a top ten because everyone and their dad has made one of those already.

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

We will do some sort of recap episode but probably not "top ##." They do well on KZfaq but I feel like those rankings often lack nuance.

@rainemaiefall3081 7 жыл бұрын

C&Rsenal Mayhaps you could do a "favorites series" also, not necessarily the best rifles. I would just like to see what Mae and Othais' favorite weapons are.

@evandaire1449 7 жыл бұрын

The reichsrevolver would definitely win.

@shilelea 7 жыл бұрын

I like the current format and don't want any manpower taken away from it

@Indiskret1 7 жыл бұрын

Such incredible detail in the presentation, lovely!

@Oivindjensen 7 жыл бұрын

Josef Werndl had a lovely moustache, just saying :)

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

right?

@nicholaslimpf9615 4 жыл бұрын

I haven't seen every episode yet but this is by far my absolute favorite and you guys are amazing

@ThePac7278 7 жыл бұрын

I am really enjoying these! Keep em' coming!

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

@arseneken 5 ай бұрын

Sometimes I go back and rewatch my favorite episodes, this is one of them. I think it’s time to redo the mannlicher series!

@ericswain70 7 жыл бұрын

Love the idea of looking forward to future episodes.Great work you guys.

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

If you're happy, we're happy. and busy.

@direraven1831 7 жыл бұрын

Mannlicher is such a amazing man i love him and this gun.

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

me 2

@ThePlaceCannel 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you Mae

@Fawnarix 7 жыл бұрын

These have been my favorite looking rifles and I've wanted to learn much more about them. Thank you for putting this out.

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

We're glad you enjoyed it!

@tohairylittlewomen 7 жыл бұрын

Great series! So informative and entertaining.

@john__lemon 7 жыл бұрын

I love your series! Please carry on into the wars after WWI!

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

We will but that's a long way away.

@611_hornet5 7 жыл бұрын

"Dirty Ferdy" Brilliant

@ryangilmour3406 6 жыл бұрын

This is my new fav channel

@betaich 7 жыл бұрын

Hey you nailed the pronunciation of the names Franz and Josef and also the Waffenfabrik congratulations, now you have unlocked the inner German achievement. :D Also thank you and Mae (hopefully I wrote that right) for the great content. I always wondered about the development during and just before WW1 for small arms.

@genericpersonx333 7 жыл бұрын

I am still at a loss as to how these people can create such long videos and keep them interesting throughout. Props.

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

Dumb luck

@baanimations3689 7 жыл бұрын

Blood Sweat and Tears :D

@philp8872 3 жыл бұрын

Discovered your channel a few days ago. As an Austrian who is mostly into hunting with classic rifles (especially Mannlicher-Schönauers) but also has great interest in history of firearms and WWI, I must say your research and knowledge is awesome. I knew about all these guns and names but not in that depth and context. Thank you for doing this, keep up the great work. Not sure if you knew this, "Schritt" means "step" or "pace", in this particular case it means "footstep". An Austrian Schritt equals to 0,8 meter, I don´t think it has anything to do with the anglo-american imperial system. It´s an old unit mostly used by the military. (And up to this day sometimes hunters use it to describe an estimated distance, for example saying: "I shot that deer at a distance of about 100 steps".)

@solaireofaustria6174 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this amazing video about the grandfathers of the M95. Since I'm Austrian, it's always exiting for me to watch vids about austrian military rifles. Own 3 M95's (1 rifle and 2 carbines, 8x56 mmR) myself and boy are they fun to shoot. Also I'm already looking forward to your Werndl and M95 videos ;)

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

Good to hear you're enjoying it! M.95's are next.

@solaireofaustria6174 7 жыл бұрын

thanks :D

@mattmitchell9379 7 жыл бұрын

You know, I stayed up late working last night, all the while hoping to see the new upload, and mere moments after I relent and go to sleep, you post. Oh this fickle game you play Othais.

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

render time is a bitch

@williamprince1114 7 жыл бұрын

Well done as usual. You spoil us.

@peterlynch1458 7 жыл бұрын

"Watch out for Prussia, holy crap!" Should come with its own little video like "War were declared". Would also make a great t-shirt with Othais' and Mae's faces going AAAAHH! and the C&Rsenal logo and website.

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

I'd need a better catch phrase on that....

@peterlynch1458 7 жыл бұрын

It's a good one as is IMO. When I heard it on this video, I thought "hey he says that in a lot of videos". So it's catchy.

@haboob308 7 жыл бұрын

Another good'n! Thanks for the work and effort.

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@user-ix3en1zd7n 2 жыл бұрын

Really neat video, thanks for the history

@woodsmanforlife1677 7 жыл бұрын

Very good info, thanks for posting!

@MrPaul-bn9cl 7 жыл бұрын

This channel is great. Keep up the good work!

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you, we'll try.

@monkeyfarmer1138 7 жыл бұрын

Oh Yes...I have been waiting for this one. I mean, I've been waiting for all of them, but I've been anticipating this one especially.

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

How did it go?

@monkeyfarmer1138 7 жыл бұрын

Awsome. "Ol' Dirdy Ferdy" Mannlicher was a genius.

@TwentythreePER 7 жыл бұрын

I need to start a straight pull collection. These are soo cool!

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

do it

@krowerQ 7 жыл бұрын

Great work!

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@Aphain 7 жыл бұрын

15:57 Glorous, just glorious.

@roobulator5611 7 жыл бұрын

I love when you say "War Were Declared".

@danielnauta5689 Жыл бұрын

This episode definitely needs to be reworked

@trauko1388 3 жыл бұрын

Your pronunciation of "Jose Manuel Balmaceda" was flawless, very impressed!

@chefemilj 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the history

@allreddan 7 жыл бұрын

Best line of today, "That's gotta hurt. You could lose a war."

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

well....

@R.K.Chowdhury 7 жыл бұрын

I am loving it...

@M81_WOODLAND 4 жыл бұрын

I'm still cleaning up the mess from when my head exploded upon learning the ejecting en bloc clip design wasn't original to the Grarand.

@NeptuneBluez 7 жыл бұрын

Straight-pull rifles are fun to shoot. Good review as always.

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@carsonfischer7010 7 жыл бұрын

othais you are one amazing and funny dude, keep up the good work

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

Funny? I'm 100% serious man.

@josephnardone1250 7 жыл бұрын

Want to say that your animation was quite sophisticated.

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@glynwelshkarelian3489 4 жыл бұрын

Hope I'm not the first to say: "You could lose a wart!" is one of the best lines I have so far heard on this here t'internet.

@planescaped 4 жыл бұрын

It always amazes me that just some grooves, or in the Mannlicher's case, a wedge, can support a freaken rifle cartridge firing in a pressurized barrel with breaking, bending or flying open.

@WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart 8 ай бұрын

Take a look at the Degtyarev (?) 28 machinegun.

@aryanekovei 7 жыл бұрын

This was an amazing video, I really wish we could get a full video on the Werndl-Holub single shot rifle, specifically it's History in Persia (Austria Hungary tried to supply Persia's Military for a while).

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

There will be one.

@dylanjames6781 4 жыл бұрын

Man you're the best! Keep this up! Btw, every time you grunt i think to myself "now that's a dad noise right there"

@baronmagroth758 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you you Mae for all that standing there and then all that shooting you do for us .... We need more Mae yes more Mae and more shooting ... Yes Lots more Shooting

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

but how would you hear me talk?

@mattmarzula 7 жыл бұрын

You guys (and gals) do such great quality work in weapons' education. I am pleased to view and subscribe.

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

Happy to have you!

@primaltempest9218 7 жыл бұрын

Can't wait until the Gewehr or Mannlicher M95. Looking forward to seeing what is different ergonomically and functionally.

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

already prepped.

@IonoTheFanatics 7 жыл бұрын

It's great to see a more elaborate explanation like these because it gives ppl who aren't familiar with the condition of the time some idea as to why countries did what they did at the time. some ppl for example could not understand why every country didn't just convert all their primary rifle to use detachable magazine the moment the tech was available... concepts like resource, time, and general cost at a national scale is not something a lot of ppl have an idea and can imagine and it's great that we get these kind of things mentioned here to help them understand that it's often not as simple and straightforward as it seems.

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

Also that previous generations might well have known what was ideal

@daddanet74 7 жыл бұрын

great.... Thanks for the video

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@davitdavid7165 7 ай бұрын

Saw one of these in a museaum in georgia (country). Apperently used in the 1905-7 revolution

@66numero 3 жыл бұрын

The "poum tata" music ine the background when Mae shoots, it is soooo Austrian. I feel like in a village party, drinking Puntigamer beer all afternoon with leather short pants.

@MrCarsandguitars 6 жыл бұрын

I had a hess truck as a child. One of my favorite toys.

@wagon9082 2 ай бұрын

Good video

@Gunsbeerfreedom87 7 жыл бұрын

"You could lose a war" Ever shoot expensive gin out your nose Othias? I don't recommend it.

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

Liquor Netty Pot.

@baanimations3689 7 жыл бұрын

Sounds painful

@bludeuce3855 3 жыл бұрын

@@baanimations3689 i dont wanna imagine

@shadows96100 7 жыл бұрын

Glad to see that 3d animations are here to stay.

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

I liked this one a lot.

@baanimations3689 7 жыл бұрын

I'm glad you're glad you like my work :)

@konasteph 5 жыл бұрын

You two are a great team! Also treated the country where I was born with respect (not everyone does) ....you didn't mention that the Austrian K.u.K army was considered an "operetta army" by the huns to the north. Anyway, I watched the whole thing beginning to end and never felt bored! At some points in my life I was sniffing around the thought of acquiring a Steyr Mannlicher rifle...but then what? having it hanging there? I was in the Austrian military and didn't like it that much.... By the way you might perhaps mention that the Steiermark....the province where they were made has a steel making tradition that reaches back into ..well the iron age. The first higher quantity steel production for swords, tools and armor in the middle ages took place there due to the local very suitable iron ore deposits. Thanks again! Great video!!!

@poppasquat8483 7 жыл бұрын

Fantastic presentation as usual! Serbian Djuric Mauser m80/07C episode I hope one day

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

I don't think there is one in the US?

@Bojan_Kavedzic 7 жыл бұрын

IIRC someone on gunboards had one in pretty bad state however.

@poppasquat8483 7 жыл бұрын

there was someone who had one i decent shape but have not responded to my PM or been active in a few years. MMROTW will have the name of the person who lent thers to be photographed for the book

@pricklydingus8604 7 жыл бұрын

*Oh. Oh yes.*

@vasilzahariev5741 7 жыл бұрын

Eric Brown Getting Man licked, huh?

@mossbergmaniac1947 7 жыл бұрын

Yesssss, finally!

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

woo

@cranberrypawnch 7 жыл бұрын

An hour long video on election day, thank god.

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's been a crazy season.

@pilotgeorge2000 4 жыл бұрын

Own an 1888, never been able to shoot it but I love it

@trenchfighter8778 7 жыл бұрын

been here since i saw the first episode link fro mthe great war still going stong guys nice work

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

Glad to know we are keeping the same people as we expand

@trenchfighter8778 7 жыл бұрын

im also in your Mumble server

@adampark9979 4 жыл бұрын

"Give it a rather hearty yank." -Othias 2016

@ZerokillerOppel1 7 жыл бұрын

At 3:35: "Josef and Franz Werndl & Co, SmallArms factory and Sawmill".

@drakinclaq 7 жыл бұрын

You really should look into selling your voice for other dubbing/recording work. Another GREAT video. Thanks guys!

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

ok, this is different from the usual Kermit complaints

@Emdee5632 4 жыл бұрын

3:33 ''Joseph and Franz Werndl & Company, Arms Factory and Sawmill''

@deltavee2 4 жыл бұрын

Up there with "Anaheim, Azuza & Cucamonga Sewing Circle Book Review and Timing Association" Jan & Dean -

@edwardjennings6021 Жыл бұрын

I gotta get me one of these

@ProjectD13X 7 жыл бұрын

You nailed the pronouciation of gesellschaft by the way!

@VeraceSzK 7 жыл бұрын

ANCAP!

@ProjectD13X 7 жыл бұрын

Suh dude

@mikeoxsmal8022 7 жыл бұрын

ProjectD13X ancoms >>>>ancaps

@yourcrazyuncledave8967 6 жыл бұрын

@stewknoles4790 7 жыл бұрын

I'm lucky enough to have the M95 Styer and Hungarian. Both of the carbines. I paid $89 for each about 6 years ago. They look brand new! Cleaned the cosmoline and almost had a stroke with the great condition. Those run about $250 now. I lucked out.

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

Nice

@stephen9869 7 жыл бұрын

Another good one guys :-)

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@bboyshr6 7 жыл бұрын

thoroughly enjoyed it. Was tempted to go straight to meat & potatoes (diagrams and shooting) and the final commentary as dessert...but the soup was good as well

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear

@taterporkchop 7 жыл бұрын

Another classic. You guys are out doing yourself from episode to episode. Mae showing up in Othais-clothing at the end was a nice touch. I too appreciate a pistol grip on my rifles. Have I mentioned I'm waiting for a SMLE presentation?

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

That's just her shirt?

@baanimations3689 7 жыл бұрын

Clearly you have a monopoly on flannel shirts

@marcbloom7462 7 жыл бұрын

The detachable box magazine was invented by American John Paris Lee for his 1879 bolt action rifle (Remington Lee Model 1879). The Navy bought them and issued them with 4 magazines; chambered in 45-70.

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

I am aware and did not say this was the first. I said he put it to the Austrians ahead of anyone else

@mrjockt 2 жыл бұрын

James Paris Lee patented the detachable box magazine back in 1879, a couple of years before Mannlicher touted the idea.

@SkyPilot54 6 жыл бұрын

Nice gun

@darbythompson7020 7 жыл бұрын

all of these future rifles for future shows sound amazing, but I still cant wait for the colt model 1911A1 pistol.

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

Never heard of it

@greydonstautzenberger3901 2 жыл бұрын

Keep it up

@samc6558 7 жыл бұрын

its great to see the derpy Austrian straight pull get some love

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

Derpy? The thing rocks

@samc6558 7 жыл бұрын

oh yeah it does- I love the design- its just looks a little derpy compared to a mauser for instance

@paulmuhle5840 3 жыл бұрын

It is interesting that the original Mannlicher straight-pull was a wedge lock. Did James Paris Lee use the same idea in his Winchester-Lee straight pull? His wedge lock was extremely strong, being able to with-stand cartridges of 60,000 psi.

@pablowin07 5 жыл бұрын

My father found a rifle of these on an abandoned ranch, it was used in the war of 1890 in Chile...

@jefffradsham2297 3 жыл бұрын

I can't tell if may is looking so happy because of the big bore black powder or the semi-pistol grip.

@jayfelsberg1931 4 жыл бұрын

Watchin Mae firing rifles at least as long as she is tall is a hoot.

@gavindavies793 7 жыл бұрын

During the long historical sections, do you work to a full script, bullet-point notes, or is it all from memory? Either it's all an incredible feat of memory, or you have a very smooth and natural delivery. Really enjoyable watching, keep up the great work :)

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

Bulleted script-ish thing.

@JonManProductions 7 жыл бұрын

What song is being played while Mae was firing? o3o also ah crap, it's Prussia.

@Candrsenal 7 жыл бұрын

Kärntner Liedermarsch

@RonJohn63 7 жыл бұрын

53:08 It's because of difference in detonation speed of the powders.

@fhsreelfilms 7 жыл бұрын

Okay, so one of these days, you've got to hold out your hands as you say "And THIS" and the gun just falls down into them. Sort of like those Old Spice commercials. *Ahem* On a more serious note, I love your channel.

@REALjohnmosesbrowning 5 жыл бұрын

"That little upstart empire" I lol'd

@ChillakoC92 5 жыл бұрын

My Muchly cherished Mannlicher, Soon will be the time for you, again to roar And Your deadly bolts, to unleash upon our foe The time will come, up there in our Alexanders Land, That you will feast upon glory, victory and holy task Every blazing bolt enemy and foe, to pierce And our brothers, enslaved hearts, courage and consolation, thouroughly, to fill Like your first born elder brother Caryophile the saturnine That our friends trully cherished And our enemies, detest Such the Mannlicher i crave, is, merciless like Aprils hail So the Great along with Small, will know that Greece The Land of heroes, still remain! (Atlantis, year 18th. No.2.868 New York, Monday August 21st, 1911)