Astounding these companies are charging $8-10k for engineering that won't pass QC on Lego toys.
@firstname77803 жыл бұрын
ExDuris, the frames cost 200$ Taiwan with 50$ logistics. Rest is markup. Time, Look, Sarto, Enve, Daccordi are the real gucci superlative built, be it not necessarily the latest computational r&d. but it is a scam that will end once china takes over taiwan..
@slasher98833 жыл бұрын
To be fair to Lego, they do take design and QC quite seriously (unlike some of these jokers in the bike industry).
@rkan23 жыл бұрын
@@firstname7780 You don't get 200$ carbon frames from Taiwan lol. Taiwanese stuff ain't cheap. Try 2x China price, so at least 1000$
@DM-hw4cr3 жыл бұрын
That's why you usually get a lifetime warranty these days included
@jamsxr3 жыл бұрын
@@firstname7780 you’re wrong 😑
@kitten-inside3 жыл бұрын
Ahh, yes, the self-disassembling frame design. How efficient.
@gokaygs3 жыл бұрын
I like watching you stand there all dumbfounded in disbelief man! I’m gonna watch that cervelo video again and get another good laugh. I really appreciate the honest and technical perspective, people are buying and riding these things with their lives on em.
@brownshit13 жыл бұрын
A small metal axe built into a carbon bike? What a nice feature.
@kurttaylorgaubatz12883 жыл бұрын
A blade-type design: It's Aero!
@cyrusalthor85833 жыл бұрын
Metal for added durability.
@TheyForcedMyHandLE3 жыл бұрын
I don't understand your comment. There's bound to be metal components molded in with the carbon.
@MazzaJ3 жыл бұрын
Observation of the day ahaha! 😂
@randellgribben9772 Жыл бұрын
planned obsolescence... and quick at it
@LeBator3 жыл бұрын
My favourite horror movie channel! Can’t thank you enough for all you’re doing Raoul. Everyone involved with bicycles absolutely must watch all your videos. We pour tons of money into these things especially the upmarket stuff so the least we can expect is an acceptable level of safety and durability but as you’ve so ably demonstrated in many if not most cases that’s just expecting too much. Our lives are on the line here! Can’t sue anyone when you’re dead.
@vastosbicycles83253 жыл бұрын
Great video after a long time, great to see you again.
@TheGotoGeek3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. In order to solve a problem created by a feature that has no benefit they created a solution that does damage to the product. Way to go Cannondale!
@FaiscaaaH3 жыл бұрын
Another great work from you mister !!! Keep us all informed about all the crap the major brands are doing reagarding their products.
@fabianvonbusse62723 жыл бұрын
I have got this frame and this is precisely what happened to it. I had to spend some 500 euros for the repair. Something tells me that Cannondale should pay me that back.
@samisuru23 жыл бұрын
Well, the owner's manual clearly states: "NOTICE Do not force the steering past the stop points. If the front end steering of the bikes is over-loaded (due to e.g. a handlebar strike, a crash, etc.) damage to the frame, fork or pin may result. This type of damage is not covered by the limited warranty." I swear, i will never ever buy a Cannondale. They knew this was shit design from the beginning.
@mrcats853 жыл бұрын
I had the same problem… 500 euro to replace the frame. Maybe we can do a class action against cannondale.
@charlesphi17953 жыл бұрын
Hi Raoul, thanks for pointing these failures out! I quite like the shorter format, I admit i am sometimes put off by the lengths of your videos. All the best!
@kevinfrost15793 жыл бұрын
Reflecting after re-visiting your previous vids going back to 2019 . Seems key industry 'leading' companies repeatedly demonstrate apparent inability to conceive and produce adequate steerer and forks. No lessons learnt, basic errors reproduced through "less than ideal" design as you point out with exemplary diplomacy, calmness, detail, patience. You do tremendous public service for cycling. Keep heart - ALL cyclists need to see your work. 👏👏👏. Info a potential lifesaver. Thank you.
@cheec85483 жыл бұрын
I like your video! Very good information. Please keep it up you are helping a lot of people to understand things we don’t see easily and it’s important for us to know.
@neilwheel3 жыл бұрын
Always great to see a new clip from you! Get well soon!
@borano20313 жыл бұрын
Why do I laugh when Ralph Luescher says " genius designer"??? Thank you!! Rgr
@cup_and_cone3 жыл бұрын
So basically every time the bike's bars are accidentally hyper extended, the frame is destroyed. I wonder how many frames the EF Education team has gone through?
@glennoc85853 жыл бұрын
The mechanics may have eliminated the metal stop.
@cup_and_cone3 жыл бұрын
@@glennoc8585 Definitely possible. No doubt I would be taking a Dremel to the metal tab if I owned one of these.
@rp67603 жыл бұрын
@@cup_and_cone the stop is there to prevent the internal cable routing through steerer tube from damage or pull out....hydraulic pipes.. 😬
@futurememeudontgetyet12023 жыл бұрын
@@rp6760 Just.. do them longer.
@patrickparisienne19173 жыл бұрын
@@cup_and_cone why not? Can always just use a file I suppose....
@iancanuckistan22443 жыл бұрын
I learn from my mistakes. I repeat them perfectly over and over again.
@Jkl1583 жыл бұрын
Welcome back! Would love to see a follow up on the superstrata bike, a lot more details have come out about it
@LuescherTeknik3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I haven't looked at that lately, I will check it out.
@dannydefe3 жыл бұрын
Is the same one who designed bb30? What a genius!!!
@davemellor46973 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a great insight Raoul,just shows that big names are no guarantee that you will get a proper bike....Hambini reviewed the Trifox x10 aero frame at 630 usd and found it to be almost perfect.I have bought one and its unbelievable quality.
@TheyForcedMyHandLE3 жыл бұрын
Just a note from an engineer's perspective: if two parts are going to collide, all other things equal, I'd tend to design the cheaper of the two fail first.
@bikescience12 жыл бұрын
And the one that's less likely to cause a fatal accident
@adriantan2053 жыл бұрын
Another excellent video. Get well soon!
@deeplato56473 жыл бұрын
Another great segment Mr. T! thank you
@chrisko64393 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you are well. Have been starting to worry...
@MrSzwarz3 жыл бұрын
Inner cable routing was probably the reason why "designer" wanted to limit fork turn. Buy simple designs and reliable bikes brand LOOK or TIME.
@jasrod20122 жыл бұрын
Both those brands make fantastic bikes. They may not be the most aero but the build quality is fantastic and second to none really.
@Sir_Godz3 жыл бұрын
Just astounding that someone approved that design feature for production
@cup_and_cone3 жыл бұрын
Let me guess.... A junior product engineer fresh out of college who doesn't mind the poor salary because they landed a dream job working in the bike industry.
@valiantabello3 жыл бұрын
@@cup_and_cone that's who would have designed it, maybe. A senior engineer approved it, then QC approved it, then the manufacturer didn't catch it. It's a massive fuck up.
@sylvainmichaud22623 жыл бұрын
Tell me how many people who buy these bikes wouldn't screw their own customers. It's funny how most people get offended when they're taken advantage of while participating in the same type of operations in their own line of work.
@valiantabello3 жыл бұрын
@@sylvainmichaud2262 you're engaging in a logical fallacy known as false equivalence. Even if you weren't, you make no point in what you said.
@sylvainmichaud22623 жыл бұрын
@@valiantabello All these circumlocution and pseudo reasoning to come up with no argument to prove me wrong ? You really want to be perceived like an intellectual but because of the lack of arguments you come across like someone who's simply saying in an elegant manner : "you're full of BS !" It has no value.
@logicsfinest34713 жыл бұрын
Very informative as usual. Thank you.
@danc18293 жыл бұрын
I was looking at these think I'll AVOID now 😂 worrying that big brands get things soooo wrong.
@eamonncoady98233 жыл бұрын
Another highly informative video. Thank you.
@moserroman20833 жыл бұрын
Good to see you again
@TheMASDrummer3 жыл бұрын
I remember I was buying my first serious road bike during covid. It was really hard to find a 56cm race bike at the time because of demand shock. Cannandale called me back and said they had the 2021 supersix evo ready if I wanted one for some ridiculous price. I declined and then got called by giant for the 2021 tcr Sl0. Couldn't be happier.
@RICHARD.WRIGHT13 жыл бұрын
I WANT HAMBINI'S UNCENSORED DIAGNOSIS ON THIS ONE PLEASE....
@davidross82333 жыл бұрын
This looks like something I would design.
@davidlenneberg43033 жыл бұрын
That’s a pretty bad design of a bike frame when they charge so much. I bet they don’t even cover that under warranty.
@ralfmimoun28263 жыл бұрын
"butt up..." nah, can't be "against..." no way they did it "the carbon" OH THAT PAIN! Great video, and great you are back.
@alexkinnane58313 жыл бұрын
I feel like you and hambini should do a collaboration roasting for designs like this one and the s5
@plantfuelled89123 жыл бұрын
Hmm no. Hambini is a 2nd grade aerodynamics engineer and a huge man-child. He would bring Luescher into disrepute with his immature personal attacks and total lack of objectivity.
@robbeelsas3 жыл бұрын
@@plantfuelled8912 agreed. A collab with PeakTorque would be a much better option
@Rshorttt3 жыл бұрын
Very informative. Thank you.
@joelfr0233 жыл бұрын
Quick reflexion on a different minding! Love the idea about that bike.
@RINGGOSTARDO82 жыл бұрын
Thank you Luescher, after watching your video I have to return the bike to the shop and claim a warranty, I have no idea what's going on with my frame and the fork has a chip on it as I just started my journey on the bike..appreciate you!🙏
@sruo42 Жыл бұрын
What were the results of the claim?
@RINGGOSTARDO8 Жыл бұрын
@@sruo42 they give me current fork.
@mochno13 жыл бұрын
we should get feedback from the Cannondale
@DavidJones-sc6jc3 жыл бұрын
Why? They don’t care as they already got a fool’s money. Lol.
@iberiksoderblom3 жыл бұрын
The only feedback that matters: Don't make stupid designs like that ! I'll bet its not even an engineer that has done it, but a CAD designer, with now real knowledge of materials. But I've seen engineers produce lots of sloppy and idiotic designs as well, so...
@einundsiebenziger54883 жыл бұрын
... get the* feedback from * Cannondale.*
@WowRixter3 жыл бұрын
I love it when you're at a loss for words. I feel so sorry for anyone who bought one of these bikes
@n0ch91c3s3 жыл бұрын
It looks like there is plenty of room to put a large pin on the back side of the crown, avoiding the traffic jam at the front where I'm assuming the fork hose is going. The carbon on the frame would be pretty thick there too.
@rafaeldegiacomoaraujo87783 жыл бұрын
Thanks for pointing this out
@Sills713 жыл бұрын
Cannondale used to make great bikes. Now they make overpriced junk. Other than to resell, I would not take one if you gave it to me. A sad end for what was once a great "made in America" (and it really was) brand. Great video! Thanks for the update.
@luukspijkerman89393 жыл бұрын
Such a shame...
@daveyponderosa95493 жыл бұрын
It is rather unfortunate Buddy. I’ve owned a couple of Cannondale’s, they were older models though back when they were great bikes.
@tsubakisan11472 жыл бұрын
@Luescher Teknik would this "metal spike" bump stop fork design be on the Cannondale Synapse frame?
@jiajunyang15733 жыл бұрын
Watched it today and it made me happy about my decision to return my supersix yesterday. Every time I took it in and out of the apartment , in and out of the elevator, it bumps into that little axe a little. Dodge a bullet here.
@andrewsbenn3 жыл бұрын
Ya you did. Mine broke randomly with very little pressure applied to it.
@jiajunyang15733 жыл бұрын
@@andrewsbenn feel sorry for you... Sad that the bike is still fast and comfortable.. Too bad this feature ruins it.
@ClarkS9633 жыл бұрын
Good to see you!
@nealcaffrey12513 жыл бұрын
@ Luescher Teknik If you can choose one Race and one Endurance geometry frame to yourself, what will you choose. It would be interesting to see some list what you can recommend and what should avoid :)
@johnsmith14743 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see survey results as to the different ways manufacturers secure a fork from swinging too far.
@seitenryu68442 жыл бұрын
The current Trek Knock Block design is pretty good. Even thigh it requires a couple extra parts, they're all replaceable and metal. They even have a retrofit, so you can use aftermarket stems. I may not like the application on mtb, but they executed it well.
@Metal-Possum3 жыл бұрын
Cannondale have a great track record of recalling road forks... seeing the thumbnail of you holding a fork with the title of "Cannondale" just made me think it's Crack'n'fail doing their finest work once again.
@DaveCM3 жыл бұрын
I have a 2019 and bought it shortly before the new one was released. I was a little disappointed that I didn't wait a little longer. Seeing this issue (and the frame you are showing isn't an isolated incident) makes me glad I have the one I do. Even if it does have a QR on the rear with disk brakes. It isn't a factor at all. Just made buying new wheels a little more complicated.
@yonglingng56402 жыл бұрын
Wheel upgrades are the reason why I hate disc brake road bikes with open dropouts. Disc brakes and closed dropouts go together.
@rkan23 жыл бұрын
You could expand on the video what happens to these frames? I cannot recall you mentioning it on the Cervelo video.
@superprinz76193 жыл бұрын
Just checked my 2020 SS Evo. Alas, I have the same kind of damage - the metal blade has eaten a few millimetres into the carbon ramps on both sides of the head tube, and there is early delamination/bulging on of the lower end of the right head tube side. The bike was never crashed, just ridden normally for a year. The only reason I can think of is that I regularly carry my bike up the stairwell to my apartment, and the limiter engages in these occasions regularly (but without high forces, at least so I thought, being unaware of the metal blade design/self-destruction mechanism). I am appalled that there is no recall from Cannondale yet. Seems like they want to brush it under the carpet - the 2021 model apparently has a metal reinforcement in that area. Conveniently, there's an addendum to the user manual stating that specifically this damage is excluded from the limited warranty. @Raoul - do you think this is cosmetic or structural, i.e. can I still ride my bike or is this now an expensive piece of junk?
@VegasCyclingFreak3 жыл бұрын
Would you consider that a catastrophic failure? Or could it end in one?
@mikeadb3 жыл бұрын
This is a shocker Raoul! I may be drawing a long bow here but...I'm a "risk guy" and I think about these things... let's say your bike falls over at a cafe (known to happen), then try to catch it but you grab the handle bar which torques and the bike lays down wheel up....causing head tube delamination you didn't know you just caused....*shudders* and there you are riding home from a group ride.
@timocallaghan44083 жыл бұрын
There's a lot to be said for picking up what turns out not to be a bad design from the previous generation once it's not brand new anymore
@DAVD3052 жыл бұрын
You saved me a lot of money thanks for pointing out
@roveism3 жыл бұрын
Just goes to show, dont believe the Hype of these big brand elite cycling companies.... Awesome awesome video Raoul!
@Astraeus733 жыл бұрын
Presumably the stop is just to prevent the internally routed cables from being damaged if the handlebars are rotated too far?! Crazy engineering, surely there must be a more elegant design than this? If it's not possible to design a much better steerer stop, then surely you shouldn't internally route your cables! Nicely presented Raoul - keep this stuff coming and also get well soon.
@jaro69853 жыл бұрын
Yeah that is likely the only reason they bothered to put a stop in the first place.
@Slow.Smooth Жыл бұрын
That’s stupid. Just make it so your hoses are long enough to rotate both ways how they used to….
@arienzoamadeus66753 жыл бұрын
I think its a good idea not to give up just yet on your trusty alluminum frame , But i do however have a carbon frame bike ;)
@lookitsross2 жыл бұрын
I've had a couple of these frames (I do some work for a LBS, and I have had the opportunity to own a couple), and I've found the best fix is to Dremel/sand off the metal pin, so that it no longer makes contact with the frame. What ends up happening instead is that extra stress is put on the brake line, which is less than ideal. I've come to thee realization though, that replacing the front brake line is a hell of a lot more simple and cost-effective over replacing the frame every time you have delamination/damage. I can't take credit for this idea, as it was told to me by someone that works for EF-Nippo, and that one of the riders requested to have this mod done, as the angle at which it currently stops is not a lot for very tight, low-speed turns.
@Rover200Power3 жыл бұрын
This sort of thing is why I've never gone through with buying a new carbon bike despite a lot of temptation.
@sylvainmichaud22623 жыл бұрын
A solution that is almost worst than the problem it's supposed to solve. Engineering at its best.
@powernab84573 жыл бұрын
That line was well good!
@oreocarlton33433 жыл бұрын
What problem is it suposse to solve lol
@sylvainmichaud22623 жыл бұрын
@@oreocarlton3343 Have you been drinking touch much cheap Lumbrosko wine lately ?
@crack0n3 жыл бұрын
@@oreocarlton3343 internal cables I think
@oreocarlton33433 жыл бұрын
@@crack0n ah yes, it would snap them, still horrible design
@marcelobueno34213 жыл бұрын
Já me aconteceu 2x este problema e a cannondale, executou a troca do quadro. Mas é lamentável ser tão frágil!
@amc95253 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know if this problem also applies to their aluminium frames but carbon fork? Got a Topstone 1 on order..
@borano20313 жыл бұрын
I presume the circleshaped indent you see behind the gouge is from the outer race of the headset bearing, at 3.10?? Great manufacturing, Cannondale.. Rgr
@henrikolsson65133 жыл бұрын
Do they just have this type of design in there supersix evo or is it the same design In the systemsix and the topstone carbon as well?
@mattoconnor16943 жыл бұрын
So what action do you or can you take if you own a Cannondale SSE?
@waynosfotos3 жыл бұрын
Man we all missed your expertise! Just wanted to check if you received my Bottecchia EMME 2?
@LuescherTeknik3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I sent an email when it arrived, didn't you receive it?
@waynosfotos3 жыл бұрын
@@LuescherTeknik Ah sorry, must of missed it, as long as it is there, there was a bit of confusion this end sending from my local bike shop. Also heard you are involved wth Bastion bikes, would love to see some content on your involvement and why these bikes are special? Cheers
@sebastianm23813 жыл бұрын
That's beyond stupid, really. I think it's a bad idea to begin with to design a bike frame in a way so that steering travel is limited. Because even if it was reinforced down there at the headtube with metal inserts, a crash might still be too much for it. Admittedly, your handlebar can also damage your top tube in a crash, but the surface area there is usually much greater and your handlebar is most likely wrapped in soft bar tape.
@jaro69853 жыл бұрын
One issue with this is they have hoses going through that area, so if travel is not limited it could pinch or cut the hoses. But then they may have been better off reinforcing the hose and using that as a travel limit instead.
@benlednor62102 жыл бұрын
Exactly what happened to my 4mth old supersix evo. Except mine went way past the stops, completely cracking the head tube and destroyed the fork in the process as well. Been an avid Cannondale fan for a long long time, with 8x bike in so far. Won’t be buying any more of their newer designs frames that for sure.
@WillCovy3 жыл бұрын
After seeing things like this and having a brand new Orbea frame crack after only two weeks of gentle riding, I'm very hesitant to buy another carbon bike. It's a great material but so many CO panties don't seem up to engineering and quality control requirements.
@hippoace3 жыл бұрын
buy Giant
@kevinfrost15793 жыл бұрын
Raoul 👍 your sense of palpable disbelief shared. Now's the opportunity for Cannondale to show their commercial integrity and cease production of this ill considered design and to recall those already sold. Designing potential problems into a critical steering component ........ USA liability lawyers will no doubt be rubbing their hands with glee. Over to Cannondale . Lets watch this space.🤨
@jinxshiang17473 жыл бұрын
What's the video CC?
@davidnicholson66803 жыл бұрын
I'm starting to believe that the only frame brands that have their act together are Giant, Time and Look.
@jamsxr3 жыл бұрын
Specialized do okay... have you seen the Look tear down? 👀
@larisonjohnson3 жыл бұрын
Ok…First, great to see you Raoul, sorry you are feeling poorly. Your delivery/timing of “Genius Designer” and “Metal Blade” …LMFAO within the first 1:30. Had to put my phone down before I dropped it. Feel better! Keep educating us. 👨🎓 Clearly a few of the “Genius Designers” education is “Less than Ideal”. 🤣🤣🤣
@LuescherTeknik3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, glad you had a laugh.
@iberiksoderblom3 жыл бұрын
Would be really interresting to investigate how many money those companies use on R&D, marketing, legal work (patents, fighting off dissatified costumers..., and more...), and what is just clean profits to the board and shareholders. My bet is, that R&D gets the least amount of money.
@gaborbertok70363 жыл бұрын
Is this something I should be worry about as an owner of a 2019 Cannondale aluminium Synapse bike? I understand this unfortunate design only applies to carbon frames with internal routing, is that correct?
@cheec85483 жыл бұрын
Do you know those other Brand that uses a better design to limit the travel of the steerer tube? If yes, it will be nice to see the correct way they design.
@BennoSattler3 жыл бұрын
Even if viewers point out something about your videos, that you secretly may fear to be true, it is still no reason to change anything. And definitely not a reason to be apologetic about it. If I had to say something, it is: You do how and what feels best to you, we are coming for the content.
@stephenmorris62023 жыл бұрын
You, Peak Torque and Hambini have exploded the myth that there is design expertise in the bike industry. Significant design flaws are repeated and are often dangerous eg carbon clinchers. Indeed so serious that done form of set of safety standard seems way overdue, quite apart from the fact that people are paying a fortune for these products.
@Sills713 жыл бұрын
Also.. hope you feel better...
@LuescherTeknik3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, yes I am.
@Sills713 жыл бұрын
Pro teams go through a TON of frames... at least 10 per rider (not counting TT bikes). That is a pretty big "carbon footprint". But no one seems to care. Think about how it would help the development of the product if the teams were limited in how many frames they could use and bike manufacturers were forced to make a durable product... and it would be better for the plant too.
@SurpriseMeJT3 жыл бұрын
I really wonder how much these frames cost to make and if the teams are getting the frames "at cost". The price to the manufacture, which is based almost totally on outsourced labor, has got to be pretty low.
@NewEnglandDirtRoadie3 жыл бұрын
@@SurpriseMeJT i would assume the pro teams get them (and everything else) for free, and then pass along the cost to the consumer. the sport, at the professional level, is nothing more than advertising and marketing. if the bicycle industry received 1/1000th of what the automotive industry received in corporate welfare, a Pinnarelo F12 with Enve and Super Record EPS would cost $49.99
@Sills713 жыл бұрын
@@SurpriseMeJT Bike makers PAY teams to ride their product... the teams do not buy frames. The cost for a manufacturer like Trek, Cdale or Specialized to make a frame is $150 for a low end frame to about $700 for a top end frame. The real costs of selling high end carbon frames is distribution and marketing, not manufacturing.
@highcarbrider3 жыл бұрын
First time I built one of those I spotted that and predicted it doing just that. Kinda nice to be vindicated 🙈
@MortenJonassen3 жыл бұрын
Great to see you back Raul! But you are not making friends with the "designers" of bike industry 😄
@LuescherTeknik3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, but I already have enough friends!
@MrBunglor3 жыл бұрын
Oof, the super six gets the Luescher slow death of a thousand cuts! scrubbing that one off my shopping list then!
@kineticvelo55233 жыл бұрын
Carbon. Bikes frames 10 years ago were built correctly now there just junk and QC departments need to wake up !! Great video this will I’m sure get back to cannondale
@steffen_r2 жыл бұрын
Thx for the video. I had the same issue with the frame while having a small accident - luckily the frame was replaced by cannondale. But as you said, the design is really crappy and made to fail hard..
@marcoheim666511 ай бұрын
Hi! I have the same problem at the moment. How did you contact cannondale to replace the frame? Did they do it readily or did you have to push them? Thanks for a short feedback!
@antoinedoinell3 жыл бұрын
Self destruct mode engaged 🪤
@IdontNeedHandles3 жыл бұрын
Most my cycling buddies who experience broken frames and forks rode Cannondales. The second worst are Cervelos.
@milliebays18013 жыл бұрын
Both owned by Dorel
@bradmac12993 жыл бұрын
And then you have Monza Imports here in Australia to deal with who will try any excuse under the sun to try avoid warranty on Cannondale. You can’t even get hold of Dorel so if Monza decide not to replace frames, you stuffed.
@trroland12483 жыл бұрын
OMG, this is even worse than that Cervelo S5 design problem. I liked the look of those SuperSix Evos, but never knew or suspected what hid in the head tube. 🧟♂️
@mikexhotmail3 жыл бұрын
Marketing team have louder voice than the engineering in the meeting room.
@Bungle20103 жыл бұрын
Obviously this is a bit of a design flaw, but if your fork is constantly being bashed against the end stops then you are doing something seriously wrong!
@LegSpinna3 жыл бұрын
Frightening! Would love to know the combined salaries of the persons involved in the design of this bike.
@tsubakisan11473 жыл бұрын
Would this sort of stupid design "feature" be in the fork of the Cannondale Synapse frame as well?
@Grunge_Cycling3 жыл бұрын
Is this issue covered by warranty?
@danfuerthgillis44833 жыл бұрын
And people laughed at me for getting a Sava carbon bike which uses an older properly designed Giant frame lol
@lewisfilmsАй бұрын
Which brand tends to have the best quality?
@TheOkinawaBoy3 жыл бұрын
What about Scott Addict RC 10? Same?
@alesito853 жыл бұрын
Watching his videos I wonder if there's any bike worth buying... he should go into building bikes perhaps. Though it might be expensive :)
@CrabgrassFarmer3 жыл бұрын
Since mine is damaged in the same way, I'm wondering if this is a repairable condition? I've been toying with taking it to a carbon repair shop in New Jersey to see what they say. But it's a pretty big hassle because of the distance involved. Also, it seems pretty complicated because of the bearing race being right there.
@horrovac3 жыл бұрын
I'd say: not worth repairing. I'd ask my money back, that is a design/manufacture flaw. The fault is a long crack in one of the highest loaded areas of the bike, and there's quite a bit of complicated geometry. And the crack is above other thicker laminate, which may also be damaged. To repair that properly, you would probably have to sand off a huge area of plies around it, as to practically rebuild the headtube.And frankly, I wouldn't want to ride that thing again. This may crack without you noticing, and fail while you're on it.
@andrewsbenn3 жыл бұрын
@Clarion15090 What did you end up doing mine broke yesterday in the same spot.
@CrabgrassFarmer3 жыл бұрын
@@andrewsbenn I'm really sorry to hear that. I didn't do anything with it yet. It's hooked up to an indoor trainer. I may eventually take it to a carbon repair shop and see what they say. It's just a big hassle to deal with. Plus it has to be a very tricky (if even possible) repair because it's cracked right at the lower headset bearing. That's why I haven't done anything with it. The driver's insurance company treated my really well in totaling the bike out and letting me keep it. I was able to replace it with a brand new 2019 Supersix Dura Ace Di2 with what they gave me. I'm not unhappy about how things turned out for me personally. But I wouldn't buy another 2020 or 2021 Supersix because of the steering limit design. Good luck with yours. Please post back and let us know how you make out.