Thanks so much! Really appreciate you checking out the videos and subscribing!

Robert Dettling awesome thanks so much Robert!

Great work camera operating Dave! Love the shots you got.

Thanks so much Jose! Will do

Thanks a lot Luke! Hit me up if you ever have any questions, happy to help

@@GriffinConway Hey Griffin! Love your videos, I am also on the fence with the c200. I like it a lot but is it still relevant in 2020? Would a Komodo or just investing in an fx9 be a better option? Thanks!

Thanks for watching!

Thanks Fraser! Appreciate you checking the video out

I appreciate that, thank you 🙌

Thanks a lot! I appreciate you checking the video out

@@GriffinConway Any issues running that atomos v upside down?

pilotfield not at all, they have an image flip option available. This allows me to run the hdmi input on the ninja on the same side as the hdmi output on the camera

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Thank you for checking it out Kleber!

Great! Glad you enjoyed it

Thanks a lot Tyler, I appreciate you checking out the video.

Glad it was helpful!

Thanks a lot Micah!

Thanks so much Alessandro! I really appreciate the kind words.

Griffin Conway I know because I’ m starting to a KZfaq channel but in Italian! Take care!

Alessandro Petracci that’s awesome! Good luck with your channel!

Awesome! Stoked to see it Tyler! Always love watching your content bro

Thanks a lot Sebastian!

Waves Motion awesome! Love that group. I appreciate you checking out the video.

Hey Ron! I need to get some fresh content up for ya this week 😂 but glad you liked this video! The c200 is still a really great camera, and we use several of them in the production I run, but for most of our run n gun stuff we prefer the c70 because of the slightly better image quality and easier files to work with in post. Thanks as always for watching!

Thanks for checking the video out! I’ll get my kit page updated in the next week or two. I haven’t updated it in probably 2 years haha. Any particular kits you would be interested other than my doc kit?

Raw is always in clog2. Use clog2 or 3 for for 8 bit 4k. Usually use clog2. Unless pairing with an EOSR then would use clog.

Thank you!

@@GriffinConway you describe it like a documentary

Thank you!

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I have 2 tripods...my bigger one is the sachtler flowtech legs with a sachtler ace xl head. My smaller / cheaper one is the manfrotto 502ah. And thank you for the kind words!

That’s a great setup. When I used to shoot weddings I would shoot in 10 bit 1080 and like the quality. Not to mention, the pro res files from the ninja edit so easily even on a basic computer.

Thank you Carlos! It works great. It is a little bit noisy if you are using an on camera microphone but it definitely gets the job done

nick korompilas what’s up Nick! Thanks for the kind words. Transcoding speed depends on your computer but on a typical day I might use two 512gb cfast cards and plug them in to my MacBook Pro (8 core, 32gb ram) and use media encoder to transcode them overnight. Usually by morning they are all done. The one and only issue I have ever had with a cfast card was with a file from my last video! Lol (the c200 vs 1dx iii video). One of the files wouldn’t import and I’m sure I could have used a recovery software to get it because it still played back in camera, but I decided to just use the 1080p proxy and upscale it. That’s a good backup plan. And if you want something higher quality, you can do what I do and use a ninja v recorder and record a 2k 10 bit 422 file as a backup. I’ve shot red as well and I think you will love the canon cinema line if your work requires run n gun or doc style shooting. Hit me up if you have any more questions! Thanks bro!

@@GriffinConway thanks man! absolutely. the knowledge you're sharing is invaluable! good to know about those transcode speeds - that's exactly what I was looking for. I like the ninja v setup, too. are you previewing in C-Log 3 on the Ninja 5? is it just a learning curve to monitor the log and know what you'll get in post? and really nice compact setup you did with the dual monitors off the handle, I might do one just like it

That’s awesome! Happy to help share what I have learned with the camera. You can load luts in to the ninja v for previewing if you want. The way I actually do it usually is send a rec 709 signal to the ninja and use that footage for KZfaq bts examples and as a last resort if I ever had a card failure. I realize I am sacrificing about a stop of dynamic range by doing it this way but it works for me and my workflow. It also speeds things up if I want to pull some of that footage for example footage so I don’t have to grade it in post.

Matthias Schömer hi Matthias, thanks for checking out the video and commenting. I go hdmi out of the c200 in to the ninja v. I usually record on it but only use it so I have a 2k 10 bit 422 backup in case something goes wrong on the cfast media. Also if I have anything that is quick turnaround it is easy to just grab the pro res files off of the ninja and edit those.

Griffin Conway hi griffin, ok I understand. So it is possible to record max 2k 10bit 422 with hdmi, right? This seems to be a good option for fast projects...

You can also record 8 bit 4K 422 but I prefer the 2k 10 bit because the colors are a little better

Tiffen black pro mist filters 1/8th and 1/4.

Hi Hadrien. Yes latency is definitely one downside to the AVX kit. When I am in the edit, usually I select either the shotgun mic -or- the lav mic, and mute the other channel. If I need to to use both for some reason, I will bump the avx track about 2 frames forward in premiere and it fixes the issue

The BMPCC’s already are game changers even without them. Definitely the most bang-for-your-buck cameras out there. Now if they had internal ND’s I’m pretty sure I would already own one lol

WhiteBox FX you can use the shinobi exactly like I use the ninja v here in this video. I actually use that same monitor sometimes because it is lighter and he better battery life than the ninja.

memostothefuture if we were planning on doing a longer interview setup then I would probably send one, but with the two bp-a60 batteries it can run for 8 hours and we were only scheduled to be shooting for about 6 hours so I figured we would be ok without one.

Island Image & Motion CNMI I just export them as 4K pro res 422 files in clog 2 (which is what it defaults to when using media encoder). Then I just color grade the clog 2 files in premiere. I don’t find they grade much different then the actual raw files, unless you are pulling down exposure by 2 or 3 stops. As long as you exposed within 1-2 stops of proper exposure you should be good without the actual raw file.

Griffin Conway Awesome...thank you for the advice! Cheers 👍🏾

Island Image & Motion CNMI my pleasure! Thanks for checking the video out

Laurence Grant hey Laurence thanks for the questions. I don’t think they will make a c200 Mark ii for at least another 1.5 or 2 years. They are pretty slow to refresh their cinema line. The c200 can output 2k 10 bit 422 to the ninja while simultaneously recording 4K raw to the cfast. That is usually my go-to setup. I usually transcode the raw to 4K 10 bit 422 pro res after recording and it is easy to edit. For audio I record shotgun mic to channel 1 with a backup 12db lower on channel 3. I also record the lav on channel 2 with a backup on channel 4 12db lower. I don’t use the 3.5mm in for anything usually.

@@GriffinConway Yes, very slooooow. to up grade products. 2k to `ninja sounds a good compromise. So you actually use the Raw lite or only 'in case' and stay with the Ninja 10bit. I can't see me using the Raw especially the price of cards and the small recordings times. I'm thinking Weddings, were I need recording time but not 4K, then short commercial/ interviews where I might like to shoot in 4k and then down scale. I am getting so confused as I currently shoot Fuji/h265/Ninja pro res. On the audio. Totally agree with your idea. So each XLR has another channel to use as a safely track? Plus ? a mic 3.5 input. But you never use. Would that be used if say you where not using chan 3 and 4 I wonder. Now if C200 had 4K 10 bit to SD cards that would be great.

I would say you should be fine with the ninja v. The biggest downside with no stock monitor is you lose out on the touch to focus option that makes applying the focus box much easier

Mike is an awesome guy for sure! Thanks for checking out the video. I really like the ntg3. We have 2 of them and they live on the c200’s most of the time but we also use them on a boom for interview setups. That’s the exact mic I use for my talking head stuff in my office you see in these KZfaq videos. Regarding the size, that’s sort of the trade off for great quality. I would recommend it for sure.

I use the heavier diffusion on the 85 because it’s the tight lens and shows more of people skin imperfections, so the heavier diffusion helps the lens be a little more forgiving

@@GriffinConway That makes a lot of sense...didn't think of that :-)

Just carrying it 💪😄

I can't tell for sure, but it looks like this SmallRig rod clamp goes into the Canon top handle. www.amazon.ca/SmallRig-Single-Camera-Support-Microphone/dp/B0747P6YJ2/ref=sr_1_15?dchild=1&keywords=EVF+Support+for+the+C200+monitor&qid=1594258768&sr=8-15 Then a 2-inch rod goes into the 15mm rod goes into the rod clamp. And then right next to the rod clamp it you put the Nato clamp onto the exposed part of the two-inch Rod, and then clamp the Ninja to the Nato part of the Nato clamp. This is a guess but I went through the SmallRig pieces and that is what it looks like, but I could be wrong.

I actually ordered a second c200 monitor kit from small rig just for that one part and just kept all the other parts as spares for extra rigging bits and pieces

Griffin and Arnold: thanks for your help on this. Sorry for the delayed response, but I had ordered the Smallrig clamp #1995 that Arnold mentioned, and didn't receive it till recently. And...it doesn't really work. Sigh. The screws included with the clamp protrude so far that I wonder what Smallrig was thinking here. Anyway, I was able to kluge a solution by hitting the hardware store and getting some socket-top threaded screws (which don't have heads to protrude) and attaching the clamp to the handle that way. Not great, as the clamp can't be locked down into the correct horizontal position---it tends to loosen up over time. Oh well. I do see the advantage to buying a second EVF kit and using that clamp, but here I am being penny-wise...I've got a note into Smallrig to see if they might sell that part separately, and, who knows, maybe they will (not likely, though....) Anyway, enough time here in the weeds of clamp technology. It's still a great camera and setup, and I'm looking forward to getting some real shooting in. Thanks again, guys!

It’s actually the stock canon c200 shotgun mic mount 👍

Here it is. 2 of these kits: www.smallrig.com/smallrig-evf-support-for-c200-monitor-2075.html One of these: www.smallrig.com/smallrig-swat-nato-rail-with-15mm-rod-clamp-parallel-1254.html One of these: www.smallrig.com/smallrig-15mm-rods-2-5-inch-2-pcs-1590.html Plus the wooden camera top plate.

@@GriffinConway Thanks for the clarification, I didn't realize you needed to purchase two of the EVF supports. Out of curiosity, do you find it is that much better to get that EVF support as opposed to just sticking with what Canon comes with? Thanks again.

For me it made sense. A big pet peeve of mine is un-level horizons on my monitor. The small rig setup solves this issue, so I did find it was worth it.

Most of the links with pricing are listed below now the description 👍

TORCHY that’s a good call! It really helps especially for run n gun work

@@GriffinConway any specific reason you went for the Wooden Camera top plate rather than the small rig? Reliability?

TORCHY there is a part that attaches to the front of the plate that can connect the stock c200 monitor, and then I use the c200 handle to hold my ninja v setup, and it was the only one that met those needs. If I could go back and do it again I would 100% go for a bright tangerine c200/c500 Mark ii top plate. It allows the camera to slide forward/backward to better counterbalance with heavy lenses and can also work on the c500 ii when I upgrade to that camera.

Haha yep

Hey Vladimir, thanks for the comment. I don’t necessarily think shooting documentaries with prime lenses is “hard”, but as I said it presents certain limitations. When you are filming a fight for example, even as little as 3 seconds for a lens change could be enough to make you miss a key shot like an unexpected knockout punch. In my experience, I have found most people that shoot fast paced run-n-gun documentaries to use zoom lenses, but that’s not to say prime lenses can’t be used. That’s why I sent the 85mm 1.4 🙌

@@GriffinConway Of course, if that match lasts for couple of minutes and there is no do over, but those are very rare occasions with documentary filming, there is almost always enough time to use primes for b-roll, and the results are night and day. It's like shooting a wedding with 24-70 vs 5-6 primes. As I said, try the TriLens, it completely changed the way I work.

Thank you for great video. It’s really helpful! I have one question. Is there any reason to use 1/4 black pro mist filter at 85mm?(instead of 1/8) Is it because its prime and f1.4? or Is it because main purpose of 85mm is B-roll? or any other reason?

WRKKR the main reason is that is a very sharp lens and I find adding the 1/4 knocks the sharpness down to my liking and adds in some character. The other 2 lenses look better with a 1/8 for most projects. Although, sometimes I will switch it up depending on how much of a “vintage” or stylized look I want it to have