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CANON R5 VS CANON C200 | Overheating, Dynamic Range, 8K vs 4k

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Griffin Conway

Griffin Conway

Күн бұрын

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@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Correction: At 1:23 it shows a C200 clip that was overexposed and then pulled back 3 stops, and the clip at 1:38 was an R5 image overexposed and pulled back 3 stops. Missed those labels on the export and didn't feel like exporting again because 8K takes forever lol.
@esphilee
@esphilee 4 жыл бұрын
Can you please compare the R5’s 4k crop enabled mode to the C200? How does the image match in term of size and qaulity. and if there is over heating issue in video crop enable mode.
@AllgoodthingsTv
@AllgoodthingsTv 3 жыл бұрын
This was kick ass. You never know where you're going to find a good review on YT. I get so used to going to the Peter McKinnon or Potato Jet, but good business is where you find it. This was very straightforward and easy to understand. Keep up the good work!
@JesseDriftwood
@JesseDriftwood 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this dude! Great stuff.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking it out Jesse! Love your channel btw
@JesseDriftwood
@JesseDriftwood 4 жыл бұрын
@@GriffinConway The feeling is mutual :)
@thefilmpoets
@thefilmpoets 4 жыл бұрын
So good Griffin! That R5 looks amazing. Please thank Delanie for all of us, I'm sure those tests took a while!
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Matt! Delanie is awesome for always helping me out with the testing!
@krane15
@krane15 3 жыл бұрын
She is definitely a keeper.
@frasermacmannis614
@frasermacmannis614 4 жыл бұрын
This seems like a channel that should have a 100k plus subs...plus having an attractive model never hurts either.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Fraser! And yes having Delanie as the model is a huge benefit :)
@ritchieollie
@ritchieollie 4 жыл бұрын
Loved this comparison video man! Super matter of fact, informative and straight forward. Really well delivered, I love your style.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Ollie! That’s what I was going for!
@NewkirkChris
@NewkirkChris 3 жыл бұрын
This guy is AWESOME! He needs more subscribers. His matter of fact reviews and comparisons are literal gold.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Chris!
@WarpedPerception
@WarpedPerception 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome points! Just something to note for a future video the H.265 codec does in fact open natively in premiere.. but if you want serious speed you have to go to Windows, and also 4K HQ mode is available at any time even if the camera is overheating.. I believe even at 60p.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking the video out! When I said it wouldn't play back in premiere, a better way to put that would be "it would import and and allow to be dropped on the timeline, but without proxies playback wasn't possible using my imac pro or macbook pro". Regarding the 4K HQ note...have you tested this personally? I have not found that to be the case for me.
@LeeZavitz
@LeeZavitz 4 жыл бұрын
Glad this popped up in my feed. I'm a c200 owner. Thanks for the tests!
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Lee, thanks for checking the video out. Been a subscriber of your channel for a year or two. Also I bought an x100f after watching some of your videos. Thanks for stopping by!
@SeasonAscent
@SeasonAscent 4 жыл бұрын
Great comparison! Would love to see the R5 vs the 1DX mk iii. Edit: you said at the end you've got that coming haha. Keen to see it!
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Haha exactly! Thanks for checking it out!
@kyeongheum
@kyeongheum 4 жыл бұрын
Canon said, in EOS R5, CLOG 3 will be added via the firmware update. There will be lower bitrate options too, so I'm looking foward to that update ;) Anywas thanks for this great comparison! It was indeed very helpful.
@cagf2013
@cagf2013 4 жыл бұрын
Wasn't that just a rumor? I'm pretty sure Canon hasn't confirmed this yet.
@kyeongheum
@kyeongheum 4 жыл бұрын
@@cagf2013 It was confirmed by Canon Korea tho ;) 1. Clog3 2. Lower bitrate options 3. 1080p 120fps these three things will be updated via firmware update. And it was stated by Canon Korea
@cagf2013
@cagf2013 4 жыл бұрын
@@kyeongheum thanks! That's great news 😀
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
That will be awesome if it actually gets clog3 and a lower but rate option. Glad you enjoyed the video!
@TylerEdwards
@TylerEdwards 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Griff! Always nice to hear the opinion from a pro filmmaker! Also, Kevin’s dancing...10/10
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tyler! And Kev is next level with the dancing 😂
@jonnynoakes9070
@jonnynoakes9070 2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos mate. Amazingly well made, no bullshit click bait titles, interesting to watch 🙏🏻
@BestAudiovisualTricks
@BestAudiovisualTricks 4 жыл бұрын
Your video and Rubidium's (Crimson Engine) just convinced me to buy a C200B even in August of 2020. For only $100 more, the quality of 4K 12bit RAW light cannot be matched (R5: $3899 C200B: $3999). This is going to be my KZfaq channel's workhorse, no more 29m:59s limit, built-in ND filters and so or an so forth. Thank you Griffin for making this video mate!
@williamji
@williamji 4 жыл бұрын
I just can't believe we get this content for free. Great job
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Haha thank you!!
@OfTwoLands
@OfTwoLands 4 жыл бұрын
Solid comparison mate !!
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Flo. Love your channel.
@OfTwoLands
@OfTwoLands 4 жыл бұрын
Griffin Conway Thanks so much 😊🙏
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 4 жыл бұрын
Anything coming on the Canon c300mkiii? Loe the vids by the way. I used to live right where you were shooting makes me a little home sick! But just a little lol!
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Haha! Yes I am planning some c300iii tests soon. What would be some things you would want to see tested?
@markkut
@markkut 4 жыл бұрын
This was a solid side by side explanation. This was something that I was wrestling with on whether to go with the C200 or the R5. I know they're completely different cameras, but due to the overheating fears and difficult to edit codec, I was considering just going for a C-series camera. This was very helpful!
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Kutrovski! I hear ya! They are both great cameras. I think it just boils down to what your shooting style is. If it’s more photo and video work combined the r5 is great, but if it’s on set working in a professional situation with a client I would go c200
@PaulePorter
@PaulePorter 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Griffin. Looking forward to your other videos. I personally like your "calm" way of presentation.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Paule!
@stopthefomo
@stopthefomo 4 жыл бұрын
Did you see that 4K HQ & 4K60 does not overheat when shooting with Ninja V, no internal card, dummy battery?
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
I am testing this myself and will post my findings in my next video 👍
@recordbutton1845
@recordbutton1845 3 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate you making videos like this. I've seen some where they say the R5 has to be shot in 8K RAW log versus 8K RAW otherwise it doesn't have as much DR. I still think it doesn't have as much DR as the C200. I'm in OC too. I have a C200, but I don't do commercial work. To me the ultimate would be an R5 in a C70 body with all the R5 good stuff. ND, buttons, codecs. I sort of prefer the C70 form factor over the C200. Sort of like a mirrorless on steroids. The things I like about the R5 are tilt screen, internal raw, autofocus, IBIS, stills, travel, and stealth. (When I shoot with my C200 people are always coming up to me and asking me who I'm shooting for). I still shoot with a 5dII and the R5 is sort of a bridge for me with the C200. It sort of upgrades my 5dii and merges with my C200. I'll probably shoot a little less with the C200 once I get an R5 but I won't stop using it. I was going to wait until the pandemic settled down a bit but I've decided to go ahead and and get one. I can be shooting during the whole time would have been waiting. I actually watched this a couple of months ago but decided to pull the plug on the R5 recently. Videos like this help me make decisions like that purchase. They're detailed. To the point. Show content. Objective. And from someone in the business, not an influencer. Much appreciated. Thanks from one of your neighbors.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the kind words! Really appreciate it. I agree there are so many aspects that I like from each Canon camera. Wish I could pull my favorite features of each and combine them in to a small body!
@aarongatewood1224
@aarongatewood1224 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video!! I was scared that I wasn’t getting enough dynamic range out of C-Log. Now I’m more confident in my R5
@LetsPlayThru
@LetsPlayThru 4 жыл бұрын
Great review. Enjoyed that you spelled it out without all the hype.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
That’s the goal! Thanks for the kind words.
@Brett.Hatfield
@Brett.Hatfield 3 жыл бұрын
Good video bro. No BS rambling. I subbed
@eifionjones8513
@eifionjones8513 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video. Just checking whether the R5 4k 10bit you compared to the C200 4k 8bit was the R5's oversampled 4k HQ or the regular pixel binned 4k? I understand from other reviews that the pixel binned 4k is the only one that doesn't overheat? Also, did you notice much difference in rolling shutter between the two cams in your handheld tests? I'm happy with the rolling shutter on my C200 but on the EOS R 4k it's quite hard to get nice handheld doc style movement without jello creeping in. Keep up the great work dude, much appreciated.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I didn’t test the over samples 4K, only pixel binned which I found to look really good. This is the only mode that doesn’t overheat to my understanding. Rolling shutter seems to be a non issue for my style of shooting on both cameras
@kenantahirovich129
@kenantahirovich129 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review! I’m just curious did you compare the 4k non HQ or the 4k HQ with the C200’s 4k?
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I used the non-HQ mode because that one doesn’t overheat at all
@ClassicalTechnology
@ClassicalTechnology 4 жыл бұрын
Great video and comparisons
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@GeorgeAtanassov
@GeorgeAtanassov 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Griffin, Thanks for the review. I really like the tone and phase of your videos. Keep it up. One question which most people seem to skip now that 4K is what most people expect from camers. How it is the HD material? Is there a oversampled 1080 in this camera or is the 1080 line skipped? The reason I ask is that I mostly shoot 1080 for all of my content. I usually run EOS R, C300mkII and X-T3 and even if the 4K is a tad sharper in test patterns for the my way of shooting interviews and such at f1.8 to f2.8 and simple backgrounds the resolution gain in 4K does not really have any benefits considering the file size increase. Cheers
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Hey George, I really appreciate the compliments. Thank you! I haven’t tested the 1080 much yet but I will try and get to this in one of my upcoming videos 👍
@BryanBenoitPhoto
@BryanBenoitPhoto 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe you mentioned it in your review but I am not clear on something... did you test the R5 4K HQ or the “regular” 4K? It seems like the “regular” 4K is the “all day” one so would like to see how it compares to the C200 and the 1DXM3. Also the 4K 60 cropped. Keep the great videos coming.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Bryan! I tested the “regular” 4K mode. I didn’t test the HQ mode since that mode overheats and I wouldn’t personally find myself using that mode as much. I’m planning on testing this vs the 1dx 3 soon!
@benjhaisch
@benjhaisch 4 жыл бұрын
Only 2.62k subs??? Alright, this is way above that sub base. Looking forward to more.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Haha thanks Benj! Love your photography btw
@BastiMark
@BastiMark 4 жыл бұрын
Really really nice idea! I searched for exactly this video!! Thank you for this good video
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sebastian! Glad to help!
@Chase-Video
@Chase-Video 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly the comparison I was looking for, thank you. Subbed.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Jordan! Appreciate you checking the video out.
4 жыл бұрын
Just the very exact comparison I wanted to watch! I can`t decide which camera go for...
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Which type of video work do you usually do?
4 жыл бұрын
@@GriffinConway I make action and sport videos. Lots of motocross, mountain bike, buggys, sport cars... Currently using the 1DX2 and the 5D4
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
I can tell you the autofocus in the eos r5 is way better for tracking fast moving subjects then the c200
@adamjohnzon
@adamjohnzon 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video! New SUB! Great Work. Which camera or system do you think would be the best for a budget of 5K? I have been looking for a camera for years now, currently creating content on my iPhone, and want to make the jump, to buy a "professional" / semi-professional camera. I have always been torn between Sony and Canon. I had my eye on the Sony A7III (hybrid) for years but couldn't make the jump as I wanted a flip-out screen and saw that Canon made them available. Finally, Canon came out with the newly released R5 and R6 but due to the current overheating issues, I am torn. I would like to purchase the R6 but I'm worried about the overheating. All I need is a reliable camera with a flip-out screen 10bit recording, dynamic range, and something not lacking in photography. In your professional option, which camera system do you think is best for my budget? Lenses are a huge part and know there are many options out there. I am a video first creator, photography second. - Thank you in advance.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Great question. I would keep an eye on the R5 and see if they come out with a firmware update to better control the overheating, because aside from that issue it is a really great camera. What type of content do your shoot mostly?
@DouglasBowker
@DouglasBowker 4 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison- thanks for laying out such a logical series of tests.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Douglas!
@darealphantom
@darealphantom 4 жыл бұрын
I’m definitely deciding on which one to buy & BOOM you drop a video 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
That's awesome! Hope this helps!
@darealphantom
@darealphantom 4 жыл бұрын
Griffin Conway a BIG help thanks for making such a great video
@leonardsmith82
@leonardsmith82 4 жыл бұрын
I ordered the R5 and coming from the R. Im excited for this camera and the overheating doesn't apply to me as I shoot in short bursts. I love having the amazing options for video and having it exceed my photography needs. Great comparison besides it being a major size and weight difference that apparently is what im going for 😅.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
This will be a huge upgrade coming from the EOS R. Let me know how you like it when you get it!
@daoquang900
@daoquang900 4 жыл бұрын
u should check Gerald Undone video to see whether this is the right camerafor u
@PerHellevik
@PerHellevik 4 жыл бұрын
Be sure to check the limitations also connected to shooting in short bursts. The timer starts ticking the second you turn on the camera, so even if you shoot video in short instances, the heat build up and your available time for video will be shorter and shorter.
@ctoLarssonTECH
@ctoLarssonTECH 4 жыл бұрын
Great comparison and beautiful footage! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! Glad you enjoyed it.
@cinematic_rc
@cinematic_rc 4 жыл бұрын
yes cant wait for the 1dx mark III vs R5 comparison
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Coming early next week!
@BabarKhan-oh6zq
@BabarKhan-oh6zq 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing work as always!
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@dwtg4984
@dwtg4984 4 жыл бұрын
Love the review man, great job
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@filmyardart
@filmyardart 3 жыл бұрын
hey Griffin thanks for all ur content I would like to see u comparing the c70 to the r5 especially 120 fps I search a b cam/Gimbal cam to the c500 mk2 what du think? cuz we don't have 120 in the c500 this would be a factor for me audio is for a b cam not so important but clog 2 don't know ...
@AsianWithHat
@AsianWithHat 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Griffin have you attempted External recording? I saw someone was able to get 4hrs before overheating while using a dummy battery and no cards in the camera.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
I am testing this right now and will post some of my findings in my next video
@natelaemmlen8337
@natelaemmlen8337 4 жыл бұрын
Another straight banger. To the point, awesome.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks big Nate!! 💪
@deanjackson3901
@deanjackson3901 4 жыл бұрын
This was a great review! I really appreciate how you broke it down, wish I could have seen this before I cancelled my pre-order ha!
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking out the video Dean!
@paulmorris4759
@paulmorris4759 4 жыл бұрын
I always enjoy your content, Griffin. Given the rumor that just dropped that an RF-mount cinema camera using the C200 sensor will be announced this month, the comparison is quite relevant.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Paul! Really appreciate that. I saw that rumored camera and it looks pretty awesome. If that’s true I will definitely have to get one in for testing.
@sonylost22513
@sonylost22513 4 жыл бұрын
This is great man! Any chance you can do a color tutorial at some point? I'm a c200 owner and quite enjoy the moody/filmic look you're rocking
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sean! I will eventually get some color videos out on the channel for sure.
@shawn5210
@shawn5210 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, for hybrids this is the best camera out.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
It’s definitely a great hybrid camera!
@68Snaps
@68Snaps 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting points. I think two important things are missing: the built-in ND filters in the C200, and the fact the C200 has 4 sound inputs, two of them XLR, and it has built in limiters, "safety tracks" too. For interviews this is super important. I am not saying the C200 is better at everything though, but these two things really matter (like IBIS, and face-af at 120p on the R5).
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree! 9:01 I was pretty much saying why I will always grab the c200 for pro video work. But the R5 makes a great gimbal cam or c cam
@nyokieruiz
@nyokieruiz 4 жыл бұрын
Hey brother’ just want to ask when is the 1dx mk3 and R5 comparison comin’ out? Love your reviews bro.!! More power man
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! It will most likely be early next week.
@nyokieruiz
@nyokieruiz 4 жыл бұрын
Griffin Conway thank you brother. Im having second thoughts buying the R5.
@DaveSy
@DaveSy 3 жыл бұрын
Great test here! Too many choices on what could be my next camera after the 1D X II. Also, I'm seeing just a touch more magenta on the R5 vs. the C200.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
Good eye Dave! A lot of great camera choices now, it’s hard to pick!
@garthzutautas9063
@garthzutautas9063 4 жыл бұрын
Dude I needed this review! Thanks so much. I'm so torn on what camera to get. I'm a photographer and videographer. I really just need to see the difference between A7Siii Prores Raw vs C200's internal RAW now. I was so close to pre ordering the R5 then I almost pre ordered the A7SIII right after... I think I'm going to sit this one out for a bit. Maybe I'll wait to see what the FX6 and the new RF mount Canon Cine bring to the table.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching. Probably not a bad idea to wait a month or two and see how everything pans out with the new cameras
@PedroMachado
@PedroMachado 4 жыл бұрын
Hey dude, I think it would be better if you specified what the aperture and the focal length that you used on both lenses because, if you used the C200 in 24mm and the R5 in 50mm, the bokeh will be higher on the R5. So, I like to know if you used the exact same focal lenght and apperture on both to make that depth of field test fair. Great content by the way, keep makin!
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Pedro, in most of the tests I specified focal length and aperture. In the section that is unlabeled where I am talking about depth of field, I both cameras were at f/4 and the c200 was at 24mm to match the 35mm on the r5. You are correct that this affects perceived depth of field and that’s why I mentioned it. Since the r5 is full frame you can shoot wider and still get a shallower depth of field. Thanks for checking out the video 👍
@PedroMachado
@PedroMachado 4 жыл бұрын
@@GriffinConway Thanks, dude. Keep making the content, you are good!
@FOBulous976
@FOBulous976 4 жыл бұрын
I'm also looking forward to that R5 vs 1DX comparison. I don't know if you can, but I haven't seen anyone else do any tests with EF converter and third party lenses like Sigma or Tamron. Would love to see that if possible.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t own any Sigma or Tamron lenses so I’m not sure I will be able to make this one happen. If I happen to see that one of friends has one though I will try and test it out 👍
@Dolencd
@Dolencd 4 жыл бұрын
@Griffin Conway - as always, cool video bro. Coming from FB C200 users group. I really like your videos. I was scared that the R5 was like 5 times better than C200 which I just bought. :) Thankfully C200 still puts the R5 trough its paces. Thanks for the nice unbiased comparison. Cheers!
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! Good to see everyone from the c200 group on here. The r5 is great at what it’s targeted users want, but for video production work the c200 is the one to go for.
@blaspayri
@blaspayri 4 жыл бұрын
very useful and sensible comparison. Thanks a lot. It would be also very useful to compare a simple pan: a 180º smooth slow pan on a tripod, to see how irregular or steady is the video rendition. Probably a cinema camera would excel at doing a smooth pan compared to the EOS when shooting a static landscape with a panning movement.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! The only reason I didn’t do any panning shots was I cranked the shutter speed up on the R5 to match exposure to the c200. The reason I did this was to avoid any extra glass in front of the lens on the R5, but it would have affected the way the smoothness of the video looked
@ben_grubb
@ben_grubb 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Griffin, thanks for these videos. They've been really useful. I've been considering getting a C200 at the moment so it's super useful to have your opinions on that compared to the R5 and 1DX MKIII. Any chance you could compare the C200 to the a7SIII? I think that is my currently dilemma. I would love an R5 but I'm really concerned about the overheating and reliability.
@RickNunn
@RickNunn 4 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see this too!
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
I have had multiple people ask about this so I will definitely try to get one in for some testing!
@krane15
@krane15 3 жыл бұрын
The difference between 8 bit and 10 bit should become much more evident once you began processing the footage where the 10 bit would hold together much better. As for tracking focus, the fact that the C-200 does not have that as a feature is not necessarily a weakness, since it is a cinema camera, which would defer the focus to a dedicated focus puller where creativity and impact requires a non-automated human touch. As for the R5 overheating. Well you can't ignore the laws of thermodynamics, and that's one reason why the industry doesn't simply switch over from using cinema cameras to mirrorless or DSLRs. Just like thin and light computers, they have their limit, so its should not come as a surprise you have to make compromises. In any event, great informative content as always.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
The c200 actually has tracking AF, it’s just not as good as the DSLR/mirrorless offerings from Canon. Thanks for the checking the video out!
@MarkArchuleta
@MarkArchuleta 4 жыл бұрын
Great video man. I have a 16-core Mac Pro, w5700x 16gb, 32GB ram, it’s decent to edit the H265 coming from the R5 but not seamless, it starts dropping frames of the HQ 4K at 24p. I find myself going to proxies for a smoothing editing experience. Thanks for sharing, good comparison.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Are you in premiere pro as well? I usually use proxies as well because I prefer smooth editing and a lot of the time I just edit on my MacBook Pro
@MarkArchuleta
@MarkArchuleta 4 жыл бұрын
Griffin Conway no I am using FCP X. I struggle with Adobes monthly fees, I would rather pay a lumps sum and owe something then deal with monthly fees. Anyhow have a good weekend.
@bassemeldakar1161
@bassemeldakar1161 4 жыл бұрын
Was actually looking for this comparison. How were you exposing skin tones in your c200? What IRE do you use?
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I usually pay more attention to where the highlights are hitting and where the shadows fall and adjust from there. That way I know I have all of the dynamic range possible
@bassemeldakar1161
@bassemeldakar1161 4 жыл бұрын
Griffin Conway Fo you set zebras to prevent clipping? If so, what do you set them too
@Nick-yo1te
@Nick-yo1te 3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff!!
@joshdiditt
@joshdiditt 4 жыл бұрын
What i learned from your channel and this video mostly. A good woman is going to support you if she believes in you and that belief can make or break a person. Good comparison.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Delanie is a huge support and I wouldn't be able to do what I do without her! Thanks for checking the video out Josh!
@tekguyphoto
@tekguyphoto 4 жыл бұрын
Subscribed - looking forward for more comments and real use opinions on the R5 and hopefully on the R6 as well , thanks.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Steve! Appreciate it. I will definitely have a lot more coming soon!
@f_r_e_d
@f_r_e_d 4 жыл бұрын
Great review. I highly recommend getting the control ring adaptor! Also, I think most of the overheating is due to the CFexpress card. When I transfer my files using a CFexpress reader, the moment I pull out the card after unloading, it's really hot. The reader also heats up, which makes me think that a lot of the heat generated is the memory card overworking. I wonder if a company out there can figure out how to create a new CFexpress card that limits heat production. They both are SanDisk and work well with no issues otherwise. That along with perhaps a firmware update to lift the time limit, will add almost unlimited 4K 60/120. Anyway, hope to see more. Subbed
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words and the sub. I have the basic adapter and variable Nd adapter currently. I use the Sandisk 512 cards and they get very hot as well. I am currently testing out the external recorders to see how well they work with the camera to see if that helps with long form recording. I will post some info in the next video
@tribalsoultv3543
@tribalsoultv3543 4 жыл бұрын
Great point but then we have to wonder why the R6 faces similar problems without the cf cards.
@Roman.the.explorer
@Roman.the.explorer 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Very good comparison!
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Roman!
@timpolster
@timpolster 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your nice video. Kind of shows why one would want both! The C200 has such a strong image while the R5 has IBIS and a nice image with a little less DR.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree Tim! Both are great cameras, and they excel in different areas.
@saudi4us
@saudi4us 4 жыл бұрын
amazing video ... Well done dear Griffin ... Cheers
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@mattc3510
@mattc3510 4 жыл бұрын
Great quality content subbed. 👍
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot!
@bebespurs
@bebespurs 4 жыл бұрын
Really nice video! Thank you man!
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@keylightfilmsYT
@keylightfilmsYT 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Can't wait for the 1DX Mark iii comparison!
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Should have that one up next week!
@malo_840
@malo_840 4 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for this video to come out ever since you announced it on your last video. Thank you so much for this. By any chance do you know if 4K 60 externally overheats?
@darwinmacon
@darwinmacon 4 жыл бұрын
Gerald Undone's most recent video says the 4k60 does not overheat when recording externally.
@malo_840
@malo_840 4 жыл бұрын
Darwin Macon Oh wow this is great news. Thank you so much for the reply.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
@@malo_840 I will be testing this for myself in my next video!
@bikash3003
@bikash3003 4 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p6qIg8ymmN3Ucqc.html watch the for overheat issue
@nathandd8541
@nathandd8541 4 жыл бұрын
Great Great video i think is best short review about R5 super useful video thanks
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Nathan!
@77dris
@77dris 4 жыл бұрын
Johnnie Butters has a video about proxies. The R5 will create proxies to the SD card in camera if you want (when shooting primary to the CFX card)
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
At the time I mentioned that in the video I was talking about the h.265 10 bit footage from the R5. When shooting in this mode, it is not possible to record proxies at the same time. Proxy recording is only available while recording 8k raw.
@77dris
@77dris 4 жыл бұрын
@@GriffinConway OOOH, OK good to know!
@CameronRidgeMedia
@CameronRidgeMedia 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video. But I just want to make sure you know there is no difference in "look" between full frame and super 35 other than the ability to slightly more easily get shallow depth of field. There is no difference in compression or field of view once you accomidate the sensor size with equivalent focal length.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
That’s what I’m talking about in the video. If you are going for say a medium shot from waist to top of the head and you don’t want to move your tripod...full frame will appear more shallow because you use a tighter focal length
@BryanBenoitPhoto
@BryanBenoitPhoto 4 жыл бұрын
Do you have the C300 M3? I wonder how the 4K 120fps between the C300 and the R5 compare. Besides the fact that one doesn't overheat and has a codec that is easy to work with.. I guess I already decided which one I will prefer... ;)
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Oh ya I am sure clog 2 from the c300 mark iii will be better. That is one of the only canon cameras I haven’t shot on yet. Hoping to change that soon though!
@ArifKhan.
@ArifKhan. 4 жыл бұрын
Griffin, your A-Roll headshot scenes, there is a ton of banding in the grey background. Is that because of 8-Bit recording or KZfaq compression?
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
It’s just youtube compression. Looks good on my 4k monitor when viewing the source files
@bebespurs
@bebespurs 4 жыл бұрын
1:55 - it looks like you shot it on iso 200 or 320. It's can be with mirorless cameras.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
I’m not 100% sure what you mean by this
@bebespurs
@bebespurs 4 жыл бұрын
@@GriffinConway on EOS R native ISO in Clog is 400, and when you shooting using ISO lower (320, 200) it just clipping highlights lower then it should (around 90% ), like in your footage. So, maybe your ISO setting was a bit lower. Just asking. Can you check?
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
It was shot at the native iso of 400 and overexposed by about 3 stops. Then, once in post production I reduced the exposure by 3 stops using the raw controls in premiere pro. This was on both cameras at their native ISO’s with matched exposures
@ChristianSmith
@ChristianSmith 4 жыл бұрын
Super helpful video!
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Christian!
@ChristianSmith
@ChristianSmith 4 жыл бұрын
Griffin Conway I was starting to wonder if I should have gone with the c200 but this definitely helped me not regret my R5 purchase for what I do.
@lukecatena7567
@lukecatena7567 4 жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on the C300 mark III? Would love to see a comparison with the c200, as they are both s35 sensors and the c300 seems to answer most of the gripes people had with the c200
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
C300 Mark iii is a great camera, and I am planning on getting one in for testing soon!
@ianmathersmusic
@ianmathersmusic 3 жыл бұрын
any chance you'd do a comparison video on Sony AA7S iii vs Canon C200??
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
I’ll try to make that happen! I would like to find someone who owns an a7s iii to help me since I don’t shoot Sony.
@TJIzzy
@TJIzzy 4 жыл бұрын
I have quick sync enabled on my decent PC and can edit the H.265 4:2:2 fine in Premiere. I heard some people have issues, but maybe it's just on Mac?
@alexmeier19
@alexmeier19 4 жыл бұрын
I have big struggles with my PC even it is not bad at all. I work in Davinci though.
@bodacinema
@bodacinema 4 жыл бұрын
Incredible but although the R5 has that full frame look, it has ibis and 8k resolution, it still does not have that cinematic look, the canon c200 has more body and presence in the image looking from my 27" Nec monitor. Great job and thanks for sharing your experience. However I think the R5 can be a great B-camera for the C200. We look forward to the comparison between 1dxmark III vs Eos R5 soon. Keep up the good work man!
@krane15
@krane15 3 жыл бұрын
The 1DX MKII doesn't overheat. It just straight up limits you to 30 min. recording. No pretenses. You know from jump-street what you're getting for your money.
@TheSickPollo
@TheSickPollo 4 жыл бұрын
The Image Stabilization has that digital stabilization look. You can see the image in the background being wrapped and distorted at 7:03 Did you have Electronic Image Stabilization on at the same time?
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Electronic IS was off for this test. You will definitely see some image artifacting if you look hard enough, but I wasn’t walking super smooth in reverse on a trail going uphill at 35mm on the lens. So I think under the right circumstances it can be very beneficial to have in the camera.
@abovegroundlevelvideograph1933
@abovegroundlevelvideograph1933 4 жыл бұрын
Very thorough and transparent review. I shoot 1DXII, 5DIV and C200II so this video was very helpful to me. My R5 is on backorder :o(
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thanks for checking the video out!
@poman911
@poman911 4 жыл бұрын
That bridge looked like one of the ones near Great Park in Irvine, specifically Portola Pkway.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
This one is in Costa Mesa
@holdmedear
@holdmedear 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 1dx iii and was wondering how easy it is to match the Raw to the c200? the c200 videos just somehow always look so cinematic in comparison
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 3 жыл бұрын
Check the 1dx iii vs c200 video. I find the raw out of both cameras to be almost the same
@BastiMark
@BastiMark 4 жыл бұрын
But whats your opinion? I got a C200 and Do i should switch to the R5? Or should I get instead my B cam (sony a7iii) another canon one?
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Just depends on your work. If you do serious video production stick with the c200. If it’s more solo shooter, photo/video hybrid work then the r5 should be better. I don’t shoot Sony so I don’t know too much about their cameras
@BastiMark
@BastiMark 4 жыл бұрын
@@GriffinConway okay thank you!!
@markarnold8308
@markarnold8308 4 жыл бұрын
Nice review of some key video-centric aspects. One thought... as a Davinci Resolve driver.... no issues wit H.265 codecs. good stuff.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
That's interesting Mark, I'll have to give it a try. Thanks for sharing. What type of computer/specs are you editing with?
@markarnold8308
@markarnold8308 4 жыл бұрын
@@GriffinConway Griffin ... Nothing to spectacular: CPU: AMD ryzen 3900 +NZXT liquid cooling, 64gig RAM, radeon VII GPU, Corsiar HXi 750 PSU, Dell U3219Q. OS: samsung 248gig SSD, scratch work: samsung:EVO PLUS m.2 280 1TB. all stock settings. Just for fun: sound..... Cambridge Audio DACmagic DAC, Mackie MR824 monitors + M&K sub.
@alijafer5409
@alijafer5409 4 жыл бұрын
Great video bro!
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Ali!
@sleepertv8901
@sleepertv8901 4 жыл бұрын
I am pretty happy that I ordered a c200 instead of the R5.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Ya if you are in professional video production the c200 is the way to go for sure!
@sleepertv8901
@sleepertv8901 4 жыл бұрын
@@GriffinConway More advertisement work than anything with a couple weddings sprinkled in. I need something that is reliable. Does the R5's overheating timer start as soon as you are in 8k, 4k120, 4k60? Prior to even hitting the record button?
@IgorShevchenkoUSA
@IgorShevchenkoUSA 4 жыл бұрын
Sleeper TV it actually starts heating up when you turn it on. I recommend watching Gerald Undone’s review of the camera.
@chewymacias7108
@chewymacias7108 4 жыл бұрын
You should have probably waited. Unless you already have a lot of EF glass. Rumors is that a new RF cinema camera will be announced at the end of this month. Probably an RF C100. And it's rumored to be under 5,000 bucks.
@sleepertv8901
@sleepertv8901 4 жыл бұрын
@@chewymacias7108 We shall see!
@77dris
@77dris 4 жыл бұрын
How do you think the dynamic range of the R5 compares to the 1DX Mk3? I watched your other video with the 1Dx vs C200 and tried to compare but couldn't.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Video on this exact thing coming in the next couple of days!
@justincosplay
@justincosplay 4 жыл бұрын
its crazy to me the 1dx iii doesn't have 4k60 with dpaf and 4k120 ...esp since its the flagship camera, can't wait to see your comparison
@SeasonAscent
@SeasonAscent 4 жыл бұрын
You can still do 4k 60 with dpaf, but only in crop mode.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Ya I would love to have 4k 60p with AF and 4k 120p, but I'll take reliability over everything and that's where the 1DX iii really shines!
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
@@SeasonAscent that's my go to mode in 4k 60 with the 1dx iii!
@KamalJones
@KamalJones 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Griffin another banger video 🔥🔥🔥 ... love canon but seeing that they releasing a new c200 ish camera with 4:2:2 10bit internal and 4k 120 fps external I'm going to sell my c200 when my c500 arrives and use money for what the eosr5 and c200 should have been
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Kamal! Thanks for checking the video out. That rumored camera looks awesome. Will definitely have to get that in for testing and comparisons!
@Jimmybeakble
@Jimmybeakble 4 жыл бұрын
Could you please do the same test with the sony A7S3... im looking into getting a Nice camera for Production and right now both the Canon and the sony mirrorless is overheating people say? Is it safer to go for the older Canon c200?
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
If you are in to serious production work, I would personally go for the c200 because of its reliability and video centric features (nd’s, built in xlr’s etc)
@Jimmybeakble
@Jimmybeakble 4 жыл бұрын
Griffin Conway thank you so much for the answer, love your content. Keep up the good work. :)
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@kevinking1391
@kevinking1391 4 жыл бұрын
A good overview of R5. Looking forward to that eye-tracking. Probably nail more bird shots for sure.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Ya definitely! The eye AF is really amazing.
@SretloW
@SretloW 4 жыл бұрын
Nice review!
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mike!
@digibreakthe1st12
@digibreakthe1st12 4 жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts of the rumor cr2 that they say it supposed to be announce end of the month..if you do get one u should do this same test with that camera n the r5..
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
The newly rumored rf cinema camera looks great. If it is true I will definitely be getting one in for testing.
@vproven
@vproven 4 жыл бұрын
So much for the hybrid concept.
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
It’s not perfect but hopefully with this new firmware things will be better
@ellenernst9806
@ellenernst9806 4 жыл бұрын
love your work :)
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@mainrein
@mainrein 4 жыл бұрын
Is the R5 RAW also CR2 files? Are they able to be edited/changed in Premiere like you currently can with the C200?
@GriffinConway
@GriffinConway 4 жыл бұрын
Yep it’s pretty much the same as the c200, other than the fact that it is much more processor intensive than the c200 raw because it’s 8k instead of 4k
@csound55
@csound55 4 жыл бұрын
@@GriffinConway My 2017 iMac plays and edits R5 8K RAW clips very smoothly in a 4K DCI timeline in Resolve as long as Camera RAW > Decode Quality > Full Res Resolve is selected.
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