Carlton Cole CLAIMS England Fans Are SPOILT & Should ACCEPT Poor Football If It Means Winning 😱🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮

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11 күн бұрын

Carlton Cole and Darren Ambrose discuss England's chances at EURO 2024.
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@antonyallen8025
@antonyallen8025 9 күн бұрын
4 draws in a row against denmark, slovakia, Slovenia and Switzerland. Denmark we were lucky to hold on. Slovenia we were practically on the plane home in the 94th minute. Switzerland match we were outplayed for large parts of the game, including hitting the wood work. We've only managed 5 shots on target in 240 minutes (plus injury time). For a team of superstars, its bloody woeful
@MrJevman
@MrJevman 9 күн бұрын
It’s not “dross” football, it’s unbalanced, negative, disjointed football. We were told by all and sundry that we were “favourites” but we’ve played like minnows. Favourites have a swagger and perform. Spain have been that team.
@theach84
@theach84 9 күн бұрын
Here is an example of SPOILT. w a side of loves to moan.
@theach84
@theach84 9 күн бұрын
Also it’s one of favorites. France for example have better players
@MrJevman
@MrJevman 9 күн бұрын
@@theach84 No trophy in 58 years but England fans are “spoilt” 😂😂
@cedarstuff
@cedarstuff 9 күн бұрын
EXACTLY. It's not dour by design, it's dour by accident.
@curtis9320
@curtis9320 9 күн бұрын
​@@theach84why is it spoilt to criticise your team all of a sudden?
@charlieb2038
@charlieb2038 9 күн бұрын
So we’re spoilt for expecting the highest paid international manager to make an impact on this team? These guys need to stop with this narrative, just because we haven’t won anything in 60 years doesn’t mean we have to accept this awful style of play and management.
@Triple_X_X
@Triple_X_X 9 күн бұрын
And just becuz you've witnessed a bald genius Spaniard playing Tiki-Taka doesn't mean you should be delusionally self-entitled for your country to play the same
@JMG4658
@JMG4658 9 күн бұрын
What have you won 🤣
@charlieb2038
@charlieb2038 9 күн бұрын
@@JMG4658what a braindead response
@Triple_X_X
@Triple_X_X 9 күн бұрын
@@charlieb2038 what have you won??? Answer the damn question 😂
@yoshiwoollyworld
@yoshiwoollyworld 9 күн бұрын
@@Triple_X_Xwon nothing but doesn’t mean they should accept southgate
@yoshiwoollyworld
@yoshiwoollyworld 9 күн бұрын
Their “poor football” doesn’t win them trophies either
@user-zn4hs8ky5q
@user-zn4hs8ky5q 9 күн бұрын
💯💯💯💯
@Triple_X_X
@Triple_X_X 9 күн бұрын
When have they won trophy since 1966 robbery?? 😂
@FastCheetah-oq6kj
@FastCheetah-oq6kj 9 күн бұрын
@@Triple_X_Xwhen have Pakistan ever won a trophy, oh yeah they getting beat 6-0 by Tajikistan in the qualifiers
@monkey39128
@monkey39128 9 күн бұрын
@@FastCheetah-oq6kj 🤣🤣🤣
@pokermax2910
@pokermax2910 9 күн бұрын
Lol we're still in with a huge chance
@stephenhill545
@stephenhill545 9 күн бұрын
We remember Cruyff's Dutch team. We remember Socrates's Brazil team, Puskas's Hungary team. They didn't win, but they played wonderful football. Nobody will remember a boring team with a silver pot.
@CanYouHandleThis
@CanYouHandleThis 9 күн бұрын
It’s not ugly football, it’s lucky football … 1 win from 5 on the easy side of the draw!!
@JMG4658
@JMG4658 9 күн бұрын
Don't watch then 🤣 simple!!
@ThreeLions82
@ThreeLions82 9 күн бұрын
Why do you clowns keep saying lucky?
@JMG4658
@JMG4658 9 күн бұрын
@@ThreeLions82 Because they have never laced a pair of boots in their lifes & are spoilt privileged lil brats 🤣 it's always ppl who can't play game have the most to say. Instead of just supporting they think they know it all but are clueless 🤡
@DB-07
@DB-07 9 күн бұрын
@@ThreeLions82how many chances have we created?
@user-rq8si4eu1s
@user-rq8si4eu1s 9 күн бұрын
It’s both ugly and lucky . It’s not called the beautiful game for nothing. We should be aspiring to win in style. If this is the way football is going it’s just boring
@JP_LDN582
@JP_LDN582 9 күн бұрын
2 shots in target in about 400 min of football 😴😴😴
@esclad
@esclad 9 күн бұрын
Keep the receipt on this one. Because when we lose through just trying to park the bus and win on pens, the chickens are gonna come home to roost. It's been luck, not strategy that has got us to this stage... and it will inevitably run out.
@BasketCase-rr7tx
@BasketCase-rr7tx 9 күн бұрын
No. I am an England fan but I’m also a football fan and I’d rather we lose than win a tournament this way.
@user-rq8si4eu1s
@user-rq8si4eu1s 9 күн бұрын
Yep
@stephenhill545
@stephenhill545 9 күн бұрын
Me too. It's anti-football. A crime with such great forward players.
@user-rq8si4eu1s
@user-rq8si4eu1s 9 күн бұрын
The thing that bugs me about Southgate is his lack of respect for the rest of the players in the squad. I could understand underusing them if they were half as talented as the players he refuses to drop. But they are not. They have proven themselves at the highest level in the prem. Yet he is giving them 2 minutes of injury time in the pitch. Even Trent gets a few minutes if at all and he’s one of the most talented in the squad.
@deematty46
@deematty46 9 күн бұрын
England's 5 games would easily fill the top 10 stinkers in this tournament
@danielsutcliffe7876
@danielsutcliffe7876 9 күн бұрын
It's been a bad tournament for football with all top teams instead of Spain
@deematty46
@deematty46 7 күн бұрын
@@danielsutcliffe7876 Germany Switzerland and Austria had some decent games .
@pazuzuuuuuu
@pazuzuuuuuu 9 күн бұрын
Yeah, England fans have been so spoilt....
@jayojb
@jayojb 9 күн бұрын
Spoiled ? What have they got ?
@andrewbernard4866
@andrewbernard4866 12 сағат бұрын
How about in each future tournament, we lost 3:4, lose 2:3, win 3:2 and always couldn't qualify in the group stage and we enjoy so much for the football and French, Dutch, Argentian, Brazilian and German humiliates you everyday for being loser in tournament in the next 20 years.
@andrewbernard4866
@andrewbernard4866 12 сағат бұрын
I remember we enjoyed 5:1 win between England and Germany at Sven Ericcson, a joy to watch, and in every tournament, England had crashed out during group stage. as England fan can't even enjoy more than 10 days of World cup (Total world cup time possibly 26 days)
@TheIrulex
@TheIrulex 9 күн бұрын
I used to get really into these tournaments and support England. I would have been chewing my fingernails off in a pen shootout. Weirdly I didn't care whether we won or lost. Not sure why.
@soapboxparishrecordings5287
@soapboxparishrecordings5287 9 күн бұрын
Hmm. Bit of hysteria. More of a transition tournament as the under 21’s last few years break through properly. 2026&2028 is bright
@monkey39128
@monkey39128 9 күн бұрын
That's true but it's always going to be hard to accept a transition phase when tournaments are only coming every two years.
@soapboxparishrecordings5287
@soapboxparishrecordings5287 9 күн бұрын
@@monkey39128 facts are facts. Happened to Every country. Italy the Dutch the Spanish the French, England a few times. We are a healthy position for 2026 and overachieved this tournament so far
@monkey39128
@monkey39128 9 күн бұрын
@@soapboxparishrecordings5287 Oh yeah I definitely think the future is bright. We're producing some good players now. We even seem to be producing a few central midfielders now which was a problem position for a few years. Still a pain having to wait 2 years every time but like you say that's life. 😂
@ftw1540
@ftw1540 9 күн бұрын
Playing ugly really well is OK , we play ugly through terror of losing, not by design 😮
@Robertolg75
@Robertolg75 9 күн бұрын
The legendary "Mr. Padre" (Tony Gwynn) once said, "It's not always going to be pretty, sometimes you're going to play ugly. But at the end of the day all that matters is whether or not you got the W." If England win a trophy through ugly football so be it, at the end of the day what matters is silverware.
@denisako6493
@denisako6493 9 күн бұрын
The problem is when the team eventually loses then the type of play will matter
@danielsutcliffe7876
@danielsutcliffe7876 9 күн бұрын
It's been a bad tournament for all top teams instead of Spain ,English fans need to grow up
@bucks963
@bucks963 9 күн бұрын
I'm england fan I don't care how we win I just want to see the team lift a trophy,look how good england played but they got nocked out 😂I know wich one I would want 💯
@stephenhill545
@stephenhill545 9 күн бұрын
We always get out of the group. The 2002 side had Argentina, Nigeria, and Sweden, who were all good sides then, and won the group.
@user-kg9rt3jh1z
@user-kg9rt3jh1z 9 күн бұрын
Could Southgate play more attacking football absolutely, can the teams performance be better absolutely, but if we ending up winning the tournament playing like this it wouldn't bother me one bit because we would have won the trophy winning is the most important thing getting over the line
@scottcuk1
@scottcuk1 9 күн бұрын
If we'd all sat there like clapping seals southgate wouldn't have made ANY changes..
@1wnheart47
@1wnheart47 9 күн бұрын
Southgate can't be the most successful manager of all time when sir alf Ramsey won a world Cup 🙄 he is definitely one of though.
@thesaint3865
@thesaint3865 9 күн бұрын
U r one of us when we win and one of them when we lose. F England always support the other country (even if they can't play football)
@redmed10
@redmed10 9 күн бұрын
Are the players not as good as they are made out to be? No othef manager has had such easy draws in so many competitions. Southgate policy was not losing. Get the points to qualify from first stage. Go for pens if needed in knockouts.
@denisako6493
@denisako6493 9 күн бұрын
They'll have to win the tournament first then we can talk
@adolfot5913
@adolfot5913 9 күн бұрын
Never heard the term dross football
@alexg6265
@alexg6265 9 күн бұрын
😂Spoilt? How? Is it with all the tournament wins over the years? Or maybe the fantastic football we've been served up? Considering how piss poor England have been for 60 years I'm amazed people still bother going to watch them.
@bobbypukes605
@bobbypukes605 9 күн бұрын
I know what he’s getting at. There’s a common narrative at the moment that we are apparently the best team in the world and we have loads of world class players. In fact, we are so good, managing this team is a simple procedure because of the endless talents that we have at our disposal. And when something goes just slightly wrong, we are all going to stamp up and down because we are cross that we have been let down by this rubbish manager, and it’s nothing short of a disgrace. He has ruined our EUROs. It’s that kind of spoilt attitudes/behaviours. It’s like bringing up an only child and you treating it like it’s a level above the King of England. Only for the poor mug to start mixing with the riff-raff and realise he isn’t all the special.
@oteng10111
@oteng10111 9 күн бұрын
What is going on? When did football change from being an entertainment game? Why are fans paying to travel and watch these games? It is easy to sit in a studio and talk all these nonsense while the fans spend their hard earned cash to watch these nonsense.. Football is dying a slow death and stadiums will eventually go empty..
@stephenhill545
@stephenhill545 9 күн бұрын
We're like the German teams of the 80s and 90s. Terrible to watch, lucky, and successful. For tge first time, I wouldn't care if England got knocked out.
@KevinMannix-sf5zk
@KevinMannix-sf5zk 9 күн бұрын
Its very detrimental to the soul to be involved in such cowardice
@jaynadiah5498
@jaynadiah5498 9 күн бұрын
The thing is we have only played teams that we can still beat even playing this bad. DO YOU REALLY THINK we can beat Spain playing this bad? or even Netherlands? You guys are talking like we are going to win it playing this bad... it will same as last euros and world cup... the moment we play a decent team we will get beat
@danielsutcliffe7876
@danielsutcliffe7876 9 күн бұрын
You must have forget about beating Germany and beating a good Denmark team at the last euros
@johnhopkinson7573
@johnhopkinson7573 9 күн бұрын
What a simple minded statement, so what have we won Carlton ? We have some of the best players in the world and yet we scrape through to the semi finals having not played any top 10 ranked team yet and that makes us spoilt ? What exactly is he going to say if we get KO'd by the dutch playing dull insipid football again...I swear these dumb talksport hosts just open their mouth without thinking what they are actually saying.
@TonyCyprus
@TonyCyprus 9 күн бұрын
Let's win ugly now and entertain once we are defending Champs
@user-rq8si4eu1s
@user-rq8si4eu1s 9 күн бұрын
Not with Slothgate at the wheel
@chesterchaz135
@chesterchaz135 9 күн бұрын
Ffs.. the performances have been trash. England hasn’t played a top 5 team in Europe yet . Would have lost to Germany, Portugal, France, Spain or even Italy with this style of play and tactics .
@antonyallen8025
@antonyallen8025 9 күн бұрын
Denmark 21st in the world, Switzerland 19th, slovakia and Slovenia are 45th and 57th. The only team we've beaten in 90 mins is Serbia- 32nd in the world
@hickling984
@hickling984 9 күн бұрын
Trust The Process 🤨.
@JMG4658
@JMG4658 9 күн бұрын
Bored of people talking now either support of don't watch simple!
@monkey39128
@monkey39128 9 күн бұрын
Yeah at this point just get behind the team. They aren't going to sack the manager before a semi final so just get behind him and moan when it's over. International tournaments only come every two years so enjoy it.
@laith183
@laith183 9 күн бұрын
You don’t have talent okey they look good coz they play with good player
@thegreenbaizevampire
@thegreenbaizevampire 9 күн бұрын
England have never played good football.
@jamjam2833
@jamjam2833 9 күн бұрын
Don’t watch it then
@thegreenbaizevampire
@thegreenbaizevampire 9 күн бұрын
@@jamjam2833 People are acting like there was a time when England played good football. It doesn't exist. Even Italia 90 and Euro 96 were mostly pretty poor.
@kevinfright8195
@kevinfright8195 9 күн бұрын
Carlton l would have thought netter of you. You have now become part of footballs gravy train
@danielsutcliffe7876
@danielsutcliffe7876 9 күн бұрын
I like carlton he says it how it is
@aintnoplum
@aintnoplum 9 күн бұрын
He was a terrible player
@MichaelDavis-dp9xm
@MichaelDavis-dp9xm 9 күн бұрын
He played in the premier league which is more than we can say for you loser stop hating fool
@FastCheetah-oq6kj
@FastCheetah-oq6kj 9 күн бұрын
Walker should be dropped. People slate Trent because he “can’t defend”, Walker can’t defend or attack. At least Trent offers you something going forward.
@bogisimonsen471
@bogisimonsen471 9 күн бұрын
Something going forward - Trent is second to none their is no deffender in the world that offers more going forward than Trent. For crying out laud he has much better numbers than most midfielders, be it scoring or making assists.
@wickedmanrick2582
@wickedmanrick2582 9 күн бұрын
Show me
@user-rq8si4eu1s
@user-rq8si4eu1s 9 күн бұрын
Yes
@stephenhill545
@stephenhill545 9 күн бұрын
Another ageing star, that Southgate won't drop. Same goes for Kane and Trippier, who were all great in their day.
@deematty46
@deematty46 9 күн бұрын
These two need sacking. Gaslighting us with the "this is tournament football rubbish" Football is meant to be entertaining.we haven't played well in one game .
@monkey39128
@monkey39128 9 күн бұрын
That's always the argument isn't it. Is it more important to play well or to win? Mourinho would say to win, Brian Clough thought you have to be entertaining while winning. I'm not expecting us to but for the sake of argument would you be pleased if we won the tournament playing this way?
@user-rq8si4eu1s
@user-rq8si4eu1s 9 күн бұрын
Exactly
@user-rq8si4eu1s
@user-rq8si4eu1s 9 күн бұрын
@@monkey39128if you are a team of players with average talent then yes win ugly but not if you have world class players it’s not Sunday league 😂
@monkey39128
@monkey39128 9 күн бұрын
@@user-rq8si4eu1s Fair enough.
@geodude247
@geodude247 9 күн бұрын
Winning games is all that matters playing good football is irrelevant
@Eric4075
@Eric4075 9 күн бұрын
They have not won anything in 57years spoilt?😂😂
@Triple_X_X
@Triple_X_X 9 күн бұрын
😂 tell me about it..They act as if they've been winning trophies with Tiki-Taka and joga bonito in the past.. Absolute delusions 😂
@FastCheetah-oq6kj
@FastCheetah-oq6kj 9 күн бұрын
@@Triple_X_XIf only you spent more time helping homeless Indians instead of trolling you could’ve gotten somewhere in life.
@monkey39128
@monkey39128 9 күн бұрын
@@FastCheetah-oq6kj What are you talking about? He is a homeless Indian. He just sleeps in the local internet café.
@jamjam2833
@jamjam2833 9 күн бұрын
You’ll still be watching on Wednesday tho won’t ya😂
@Triple_X_X
@Triple_X_X 9 күн бұрын
SAY IT AGAIN!! I don't even know how they got spoilt.. You'd think Engl@nd was some Tiki-Taka or some Jogo Bonito team in the past and now they're fairly being Self-entitled but NO! Engl@nd was a boring team in the past yet the fans act ao Self-entitled to play beautiful football.. It's Pep, he's the cause of all of this..Now everyone wants their team to play Total football even when they've got overhyped mid players
@siontimmy1
@siontimmy1 9 күн бұрын
Even German football change how they play football after Pep tenure with Bayern Munich he's good manager but his style of football/management has ruined football I think Italian football count themselves lucky that Pep hasn't managed there yet
@Triple_X_X
@Triple_X_X 9 күн бұрын
@@siontimmy1 Oh shut the f**k up! Germany was already playing their devastating football "the German Machine" have ever heard of that?? It's similar to Total football but at a more fast pace level and a little bit less possession
@Triple_X_X
@Triple_X_X 9 күн бұрын
@@siontimmy1 oh please Germany was playing their "German Machine" long before Pep came..Have you ever heard of that?
@charlieb2038
@charlieb2038 9 күн бұрын
So it’s either beautiful football or Southgate ball? What a moron
@FastCheetah-oq6kj
@FastCheetah-oq6kj 9 күн бұрын
@@Triple_X_XFocus on Pakistan cricket team, stop talking about England
@yddy1325
@yddy1325 9 күн бұрын
Carlton Cole = 🤡🤡🤡🤡
1 or 2?🐄
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