I did this more than 30 years ago. Completely fucked the roof up so I walked out and went to the nearest pub.

Why are a bunch of Americans watching a video of a British training scheme and commenting on why you wouldn't need to do it in the US? I did a similar scheme in the UK 35 years ago and it's kept me employed ever since.

they should teach you this in high school.. basic skills goes a long way

Testing to become a carpenter? I didn't realize that was a thing.....I just watched my father and bam, I was a carpenter. lol

Been doing carpentry and joinery for over 40 years never took a test and never been out of work just love my work

I don't even do carpentry why am I watching this at 2am?

Carpenters skill test, here have some outdated tools no one ever uses anymore, that'll test your skills

Can't be apprentices, I didn't see any on their phones!

6 months on a job site and you can learn most of this while getting paid. And you'll be better in the long run because you don't have a staged perfect scenario to work off of.

Based on the fact I see almost no powered tools or any typical jobsite equipment, I'm assuming at "graduation" your handed some overalls, a straw hat, and a corncob pipe?..

Apprenticeship was so long ago I didn't have to do this for my qualifications! Had to do something similar to get a VISA to work in Australia though

I don't mean to sound like an ass, but anyone can hang a square door within a square frame. No building is perfect.

People, people, people.. some weren't born into a family that had someone who worked in said trade, and it's hard trying to find companies that will hire without SOME experience. Most won't give you a chance, even if you might have a better work ethic than someone who has had experience, therefore leaving them no other choice than to try and go to school for it. It's either that or work another dead end job that you hate.

Screw the class, hire in as labor, outperform the next guy or girl and you will succeed, not that damn complicated, people will teach you if you have good work ethics, hell, in today's world, they will love you if you have good work ethics, probably will want to adopt you and shit.

Kind of proud I can do all of these things but never received formal training. It is just a hobby of mine.. plus owning a home, shit breaks.

I am interested in the details of your training rigs. Do you have plans or better images you may provide? Of course, in contrast to many that have posted here, I am a true fan in the formal instruction for those interested in obtaining a career in the trades. These people should be thanking you for sending someone out there who has an understanding of what is being asked. Proficiency comes with time but, most business owners do not want to take the time train anyone theses days. Time is money, tools are money, and materials are money; not to mention the soft skills of what it takes to just, "be a responsible employee", either. Thank you for you post; I hope that you can help me with my request as well.

i'm trying to think through how i would do the roof rafter. I could use a bevel t to copy the angle of the corner rafter. its complimentary angle would be the overhang cut. then measure over however much the overhang is decided and make a cut however deep the overhang is decided. the cut is just made 90 deg to the complimentary. now the hard part.. the corner is a 90, and it's bisected equally. from a 2d arial view, that's a 45/45/90. our triangle shares an edge with the phantom one i just mentioned. rafter distance from corner times sq rt of 2 is its hypotenuse. tangent of the beveled angle's compliment is equal to the rafter height(what we're finding), over the hypotenuse we just found (now a leg). because of the 45/45/90, we now have the legs of a right triangle. just use pythagorean theorem to find the distance from your notch to where you start drawing your bevel T angle. the edge angle of our rafter would be found with the opposite tangent of the rafter to corner length over the hypotenuse we just found with pyth theorem. i do some carpentry, but never had a class or a teacher. my dad was a math teacher though, so that's in my blood. i usually make small woodworking stuff, so holding the wood and scribing on scrap is how i would usually do this sort of thing.

Pretty impressive doing them cuts with that junky saw.

Doing a housing program with my first nation. Just started this week and it will be done in July.

My dad owns a construction company and yes I'm the oldest female out of 9 brothers and 6 sisters I have a passion about building things from the ground up god help me make my dreams come true 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

When he said "craftsperson" I rolled my eyes and left.

good to see kids going to school for this stuff. There are things you wont learn unless you go to school.

I wish the US had industry standards at all. Anyone can call themselves a carpenter, and many do. It would prevent a lot of headaches on all sides.

they should bring this back in england, as far as im aware skills testing is no longer a part of nvq. some of the young joiners ive come across would struggle to fix anything with a hammer, they all be lost without a chopsaw and nailgun. They all seem to have onsite assessment, which involves them taking pictures of other tradesmen work and passing it off as theirs!!!!

why the fuck did I sit through this entire video lol

Then they get to the job and don't know how to use a sliding or compound mitre saw, Load a trim nailgun correctly, hook up a compressor, set up a table saw, run a brad nailer or pin nailer, power planer, hinge template, trim or plunge router...So; Basically; they're helpers...NO COMPANIES use hand tools like that...The customer wants it done yesterday for the cheapest price. Of course there are exceptions to the rule but; not on the east coast...:) I've owned a construction business for over 3 decades in the philly area...We used to have tons of great mechanics to choose from; Now; the good guys want 350 per day minumum, and the other choices aren't worth 80 a day...

They caught me doctoring up my miters.

don't think anyone did this test that built my house a few years ago..

Although there isn't as much regulation as other trades its still important to at least be open to the idea of schooling. I come from a long line of carpenters and I took a 1 year carpentry course because the college was close and I had the money for it. Best money I ever spent because it taught me to not have a closed mind and take each day as a chance to learn something new. Sure some people will get out of school and think they know everything, they quickly learn to keep quiet when you give them the blueprints and say hes the leader for today with a crew of guys. They might make it an hour before they come to me asking questions or they learned their lesson. Is it productive to do that? no, but its something I like to do to gauge how someone will be and if I want them working for me. I also took architecture after carpentry and it taught me things I couldn't learn on a jobsite or from my father. I have never seen load calculations or free body diagrams on a job site its always go by the plans and the building code. This knowledge helps me catch things that could be a potential headache later and you have a better understanding of what the engineer is doing and why. Women should always be welcomed to a trade for those that are serious about it. I have seen women that have out worked all the men on the crew, they don't dick around on their phones or sit and have a smoke break every hour. The old notion of it being to hard for a woman to do this line of work is disgusting. I've seen small guys doing crazy crap where you gotta yell at them to stop, don't need someone hurting themselves. If you are worried about being worn out at an early age you need to work smart, there are some jobs that it will not matter but its the same for both genders. To many people flood this industry with the notion that because they watched a tradesmen for a few months that they can automatically do it and they don't need to learn anything more. It makes it hard for the real guys that are at the top because shoddy workmanship has become pretty common. Case in point if you look at some of the cookie cutter homes being built you see it. If you wanna get ahead you should be open to learning new things, cause college boy might know something you don't and the same can be said if the roles were reversed.

Never put your finger behind a chisel like that at around 5:20 mins unless you don’t mind doing some damage

Why the fuck is it so difficult to get anywhere in life when everything you want to do is bad? Getting into an apprenticeship, bad. Learning from a company, bad. So which one is it then? Or is being a carpenter pointless? I don't want to go to college but something tells me that it seems like a smarter approach if you choose something that is highly employable.

I want to buy that folding scale, tell me from where to buy?????? 8:40

I wish it was harder to get onto site for unqualified staff. On my site qualifications, saftey tickets or ability to speak English isn't necessary.

Can anybody help with some of the best tools to get for a joinery apprenticeship

Photo ID so if you do not have a drivers licence or a passport you are not eligible to take the test? is this fair?

Why are they using hand tools? I dont want a guy showing up with a hand saw, smoothing plane, and hand finish nails on my site.

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In all my years in construction, 2 things have really ruined it for me. 1)working with no-it-all pessimistic selfish sports-obsessed assholes that are only interested in pushing others down and belittling people especially when it comes to the young ones . 2) the culture of Over-The-Top health&safety/bureaucracy(cscs cards!) /general lack of common sense by foreman/superiors/officials. At the same time you have pen-pushing clueless deck-jockeys in westminster wondering why we aren´t getting enough houses build or enough young british people into the industry. Meanwhile places like china/south america/india are just cracking on with things. they don´t spend 5 years debating a HS2 line. they just build the fuckin thing and thats it. how about we have some of that spirit here?!

Excellent video.

Heck my engineering license took me 8 years to get. This doesn't look that bad.

does everwhere have this test ?

done all that except played with the birds mouth..rafters.. is that it?? for what first year i guess ?? looks pretty easy :)

And then they go on site and site manager says "I hope those hinge plates are getting router'd in lad!" Good luck on price with those skills.

I'm a carpenter from iraq. but not building carpenter . just a decorations and mobilia .. How can i get this skills lesson😐

carpentr is a good job or not?

How much do these independent assessor's earn.? Seems like a sweet gig,

No PPE other than laced but untied steel toe capped boots?... REALLY? AND... Talk about the working standard and finished products being sub-prime...

How long time during test? To do all

Do the canopy members have to be cut with a hand saw or can you bring a chop saw

This video was done in 2014 and there's no air or power tools???

No power in Scotland?

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My old teacher gerry doing the marking.sound fella so he is.listen all the wannabe master carpenters haters hatin. The kids in the test can use power tools out on site but what they are trying to do is teach them the traditional way .the basics. Without power. All yous that are so used to the new dewalts and makita chopsaws and ripsaws would shit a brick if you had to sit this test tomorrow. I sat it in 1998 and finished it in 3 hours .yes it was easy but it taught me a great deal .

Hola me gustaría entrar en contacto ya que me dedico a preparar a profesionales /// Hello, I would like to get in touch since I am dedicated to preparing professionals

I did this years ago

Proper PPE was not used in the beginning of the video

so nice

Don't learn nothing till your time is out!!

All the qualifications in the world won't make you a good carpenter. You need good work ethic and most of all you need good hands.you can tell by the age of 10 if a kid is gifted at working with their hands.usually people from a farming background make better tradesmen.

video perfecto

Good day sir, my name is Ugochukwu Achibiri from Nigeria. Please how can I gain employment in your company, I operate concrete batching plant, I have 7years of experience.

This guy is no Door hanger but hats off, seat cuts are way to deep don't know how much I can watch, my dad started in 1946 I started in 76 at the age of 27 I was running a Crew framing homes 65,000 a week payroll, I got in at the right time when they opened the border and pushed out the unions wish we had TRUMP back then I wonder what it would be like now, got out of the framing industry in 2004 and have not looked back got to a point where I was ready to drop a super. building inspectors I still work on there houses No prob , there's no room for the white guy out there at least in CA

Is there good money in carpentry? What's the pay like for starting and experienced carpenters

There’s handy men and real carpenter most don’t know the diffrence. Union trades are only thing that’s worth it otherwise do somthing else because every border jumper does construction it ruined our trades

good company,,,, am all carpenter

I did an 8 week course to get a lv2 city and guilds diploma in site carpentry with access training. All i need to do is gain employment then complete 6 assesments in order to get the nvq lv2. I have to film myself doing it. Problem is, I CANT GET EMPLOYMENT WITHOUT A FUCKING QUALIFICATION! PAYED 4.5K aswell.

Shocking to think that hanging a door or fitting a mortice latch/latch set is considered being a craftsperson and that it is even on a FINAL test after 4 years of training. 4 years is supposed to be an Honors degree standard equivalent. This is laughable. The only decent part of the final test was the canopy. No wonder true carpentry skills are Dead.

this looks so easy

Each test centre is different. My friend walked in, got if for free (ewpa) walked out 30minutes later. They had the certificate waiting as they new he was coming.£££££££££££££££££

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Wow so thats how you pull your tape to measure...no tool belt?

In a real site you would have a sliding miter saw and have this done stupid fast.

They demonstrate that apprentices have the level of competence and productivity expected by the industry. gotta be joking right....not even close of what i expect from my apprentice.they should get this done half the time with theire eyes closed

Very good

Been a fully qualified joiner now for 17 years… I’d be fucked doing that test now I’m far to used to my luxury tool kit to go back to working with thon shite lol

I love scottish accents

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It is interesting

Coping saw for proper skirting

That nice

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Hand tools, really? That's just not realistic.

I wanna be a carpenter but my math skills is ass

Cool

No safety googles ? Nice test

i wouldgive them a c for not having the proper tools their way to slow

translate is french please

yet another blow for the working class

Sir i am carpentar

Got some build cabin videos in my recommendation list so I search carpentry and click this one

Who in the fuck cuts skirting 45s with a hand saw. And if I left any doors hinge bound like that if be kicked off site lol.

funny the way they handle plan manually handling tools, they all apprentice

I love capentry but i m doing something else

i should get into the film industry instead

I lake the t

Pre hung doors pre built roof trusses pre built wall units. ..I hate chiseling.

4:00

ahaaa Put them in a remodel of house from the early 1900's we will see what skill set they have.

3:33 When steroids control the pencil.

"Craftsperson". Advice to those dozens and dozens of women who dream of becoming a mason or a carpenter: don't. It's simply not for you. Not because your presence is unwanted or because you will be discriminated against on the job. Builders love women just as much as all other men do. The simple fact is that your body will never grow to become as strong or resilient as a man's. It's called "sexual dimorphism", and if you have a problem with that, take your complaint to Charles Darwin. You will not be able to pull your load. Your colleagues will be frustrated with your lacking productivity. You will get a joint or back injury and be forced into another profession or into the welfare system before you hit 40. Don't get into it because you want to prove something, because you will only end up proving me right.