Well said!

Kitty and Peter Carruthers, American brother and sister team. They won the silver medal in these Olympics

@@sarahbgln I thought they might have been husband and wife. Peter Carruthers announces Figure Skating events. They were on the ice when I was 3 or 4 years old

@@kimwaddell4218 They're siblings, both adopted but from different mothers. You are right that peter did become a commentator for some of the major skating competitions

And tango camels.

OH, wow.... I agree. It's been so long. I had forgotten about their beautiful sit spins and death spirals. Kitty & Peter were such bright spots for the USA 4 years after Tai Babilonia & Randy Gardner's heart-breaking experience of 1980 in Lake Placid

I already predicted Valova & Vasiliev would be overtaken by a younger Soviet team if they continued and predicted it would be a mistake of them to continue after 84. I had no idea that it would be Gordeeva & Grinkov of course, knew nothing about them at this point really, but I knew it would be someone. If Gordeeva & Grinkov had not emerged, it probably would have been Selezneva & Makarov, who yes Valova & Vasiliev almost always beat the next 4 years too, but that is since with G&G taking over and Valova & Vasiliev being past Olympic winners they were relegated to #3 team, but probably are pushed to take over as #1 without G&G. Or some other Soviet pair we never got to see due to those 3. I honestly don't think V&V stay #1 until 88 even if G&G had not emerged. Their 83 world win was controversial with most thinking the East Germans should have won, and some even thinking maybe Underhill & Martini too. Their win here was probably deserved, but some thought the Carruthers arguably outskated them in the long program even here. And they lost post olympic worlds to Underhill & Martini. They were not nearly unbeatable like the past dominant Soviet teams, and I think they should have taken their titles and run at that point, not tried to stay in another quad. Just my opinion, but I was proven right in my prediction then that they would overtaken. And I still insist even if G&G had not emerged, they still would have been.

And yes the Carruthers were fab here and 100% deserved atleast the silver. I even think they have a good case for winning the long which would have given them the gold, but since they were very lucky to even be tied for 2nd in the short, I am fine with the result, but a mix of 2nd to 4th place ordinals in the long, bigtime underscored when they were the only inspired skate of the entire night. I get their side by side jumps were much easier than both Soviets and even the East Germans so some docking for that in the marks for sure, but everything beyond that was great, and their best skate ever both technically and artistically. And all those other teams badly messed up atleast 1 side by side jump negating some of their jump advantage already. On another note Larissa's costume was absolutely hideous and detracted from the overall skate for me since I couldn't stop looking at that hideous dress. Her lift positions were godawful at this point, the short is much better for them as it hides their weaknesses, especialy just 1 overhead lift which is impossible to hit an ugly position from. The Germans picked such horrible music, and Valova & Vasiliev's music cuts were ridiculous and weird with like 6 different ones that made no sense together, but kind of funny all the same and they made it work well somehow.

Well Mr. Button waa and is bit biaased. A little to pro US.

@@skaterboy-cz9wj Of course, Dick Button is certainly thrilled when the USA does well, AND if you know anything about him, he is also thrilled when any other skaters do well....He is, if anything, BRUTALLY honest when a skating program isn't up to an internationally competitive level regardless of the nationality and never hesitates as to telling you why a skater or skaters, US or others, had flaws in their programs.

@@philanois6031 Oh come on. Uncle Dicky almost has an orgasm if it is his favourite skater and if he doesn't like you watch out. He is an American commentator and probably more of an entertainer du to his pro US lleanings. He never criticized Michelle Kwan for her puny jumps and lack of ampitud on them. He is more of a caricature. I am just trying to say a balanced approach. But I do think the energy of the Carruthers was wonderful. Their comments in answering questions made me laugh a bit. Well ocached on what to say.

Skating while Russian deserves lots of points. Russian pairs skate so much better. Other countries struggle so badly with pair skating, whether they can do the jumps or not.

Они вообще должны были бронзу взять... Скажите спасибо, что серебро выиграли с таким простеньким прокатам.. Вы на прыжки посмотрите. Двойной параллельный тулуп, у ВВ тройной параллельный в каскаде. ВВ намного качественно и сложно исполнили свою программу.

Plus V&V didn't have a triple twist. They chose to do a double axel twist, instead of triple twist. I think that makes up the difference between Kitty & Peter not doing side-by-side triple toe jumps.

you are correct

Paquita by Ludwig Minkus, I think.

Tai and Randy-not strong?!

That is from former Skate Canada director David Dore!

No way it should have been that close. Such a passionate performance!

what was the slow music in the middle section?

Watson was with Burt Lancon at this Olympics. She didn't pair up with Oppegard until after Burt retired after the 1984 world championships.

@@excalibur1812 Yes I know, I'm talking 1988 - I never under why judges would have gladly had S-M in third even with all the mistakes, even in the 87 Worlds.

You couldnt pick out any position in this program that was not first rate. The throws were the best of the evening. They had the best spins, lifts and their program was the more artistic of the evening. You are so basic. You dont realize that is isnt only about technical elements. There is line, position, spins, lifts and choreography that also influence the scores. I didnt see too many other pairs skate as "one" that evening. Sit down and let the experts do the analysis here.

​@@metsdudenj Her jumps, especially 2F - a first pate position in the air? Just look at her rafting free leg in the air and shakely landing 2:12, compare at least with his 2F. Or landing in twist, he should only touch her waist on the catch, and not hug her as here 0:34. Best lifts really? Only two full overhead lifts with no change of her position, no difficult variations? Best spins? Did you watch Valova-Vasiliev program, in which both catch his foot during the rotation, performing difficult variations? There are no difficult spin variations in this program.

Hardly, the Canadian judge tried to hold them down in the SP to boost the Canadians. And he favored the East Germans over the Carruthers to try to boost his pair to a medal

The Czech judge voted for the Americans, and the Japanese voted against them, so it really wasnt skewed in their favor. I was one of the statisticians for this competition, and the way the ordinals played out, the Americans had 5 2nd place votes the Russians had 2 and East Germans 3. The real scramble was for the bronze, but the ordinals played against the East Germans, because they had more second place votes than the Russians, but 4 fourth place votes. It was crazy, because there were a few ties in there, and one of two judges could have flipped the whole thing. But I feel ultimately, it was the Canadian judge throwing the 5.9 for the Carruthers' artistic mark sealed it up for them. There were really 5 pairs contending for the three medals and honestly, I expected the Carruthers to be lower in the SP because it was an average skate, but they capitalized on the errors of the other teams.

They both two footed that jump. It was a planned two foot landing.

For a pair that had only skated together for 2 years I don't think they did a bad job.