The chameleon says that no one would let her train in their kung fu because she’s small. I guess Mantis never existed lol.

I’ll take a mediocre Dreamworks film than whatever the hell Megamind 2 was supposed to be.

Three Kung Fu Pandas was perfect. Po was tested in three ways,physically, emotionally and spiritually.

her motivations were "nobody wanted me to train me in kung fu because im too small" mantis?? hello???

The worst part is that KFP 4 and Megamind 2 could have genuinely been masterpieces if Dreamworks had gone about it properly.

Another problem with the Chameleon is that she has no connection to the main characters at all. The first three villains were all tied to someone- Tai Lung to Shifu, Shen to Poe, and Kai to Oogway. The relationship between all these people made for really interesting backstory and also served as good emotional arcs for the heroes to overcome. Shifu gets over his guilt for failing Tai Lung, Poe overcomes his traumatic past Shen caused, and Oogway is at peace knowing his old friend will be stopped by the Dragon Warrior. The Chameleon would've benefitted a lot if she was tied to Poe in some way, or heck- take advantage of the fact she's a chameleon. What if SHE was the companion for Poe in this film, and was masquerading as Mr. Ping, or his dad, or one of the Furious Five (if they were in this movie), toying with his emotions. The betrayal in the middle half of the film would have a lot more impact, and Poe would now be stuck in a nightmare- not knowing who to trust. That would be a TERRIFIC way of utilizing the Chameleon's power, instead of using it for lazy fan-service.

If they make kung fu panda 5, hopefully it all begins with making kung fu panda 4 just a dream.

I agree with your statement about the film forgetting about certain things from the first three movies in the franchise. When Po's Dad said, "Bravery is not my specialty," I was confused because, during Po's flashback in Kung Fu Panda 2, the father stayed behind and fought wolves with a giant sledgehammer.

My biggest complain about Kung Fu Panda 4 - Where are the furious 5?? - Why did Po has to quickly find his successor anyway? Oogway is a walking bone before he choose poo - and Po has to pick his successor with several random people? - the main villain is defeated in only two hits? - After freed, all the villains just suddenly respect Po, why? - What happen to the underground people? there's no closure for that - Why did they make the Dragon Warrior like a nobody know? in the last 3 movies they centered around the dragon warrior like everybody knew him. - There's not much growth for Po in this movie compared to the other.

The thing that pissed me off about this movie is how poorly they used the villains. Like bro, they brought back Tai Lung, Lord Shen, and Kai. And instead of giving them an emotional and intense reunion with Po, and nicely weaving them into the plot, they instead just use them as Plot Devices and throw them into cages for the entire film. And what makes it worse is that neither Lord Shen or Kai speak a SINGLE WORD. They couldn’t even get voice actors that at least *sound* similar? Imagine Po and The Furious Five fighting Tai Lung, Shen, Kai, AND The Chameleon. That would’ve been a much better story, like some No Way Home type stuff.

I felt like Po needing to find a successor was very contrived; there was no fight that made Po realize he needed to move to another role, just Shifu saying out of nowhere that Po needs to find a successor. IMO Shifu should move into the role of Oogway before Po does - make Po moving into Oogway’s role a conclusion to the series. I also don’t get why there needs to be a successor to the Dragon Warrior - there hadn’t been one before Po, so there’s no precedent of there being future Dragon Warriors.

DreamWorks is a perpetual motion of "We're so back" and "It's so over"

I'm starting to think that The Last Wish was a fucking fluke.

The Furious Five being absent was a BIG red flag tbh. Po is at his best when he has other characters to play off of and the absence of most of the characters who know him best really showcases this. The saddest part is that Po getting his own apprentice that he truly takes under his wing, which is what I THOUGHT Zhen was going to be, sounded really cool and it made sense for the Five to maybe be looking for their own apprentices, sort of setting up the next generation and continuing Oogway's legacy. But the 2 barely get the time to know each other and by the end they act like they're best friends. Its just really rushed.

Tai lung: Has been lied by his father figure. Shen: Banished by his family Kai: Betrayed by his brother Chameleon: Was too short

What I disliked about Kung Fu Panda 4: 1. Shifu's reason to have Po find his successor didn’t make any sense. Just because he was gifted the staff of wisdom doesn’t mean he needs to be promoted. Look at Oogway, that tortoise was a century old before he flew off to the spirit realm. 2. The mention of Tai Lung's return should've brought panic and disbelief in Po. But he just looked like their village was under robbery. 3. The absence of Furious Five. They could've added so much help and performance in Po and Zhen's journey. I mean, they are such major characters of the plot and- 4. Shifu needed to have more scenes, especially with Tai Lung. We needed an emotional reunion or something. 5. The chameleon saying she was considered too small to be taught Kung Fu? As if Mantis doesn’t exist. She didn’t have any proper backstory like the previous villains and was defeated too easily. I mean if she has the kung fu of all the great villains, then how come a single unknown move from the fox throws her off? A total disappointment. 6. Shen and Kai were silent throughout the whole movie. And not to mention, they were caged. Shen and Kai were excellent villains just as Tai Lung so dialogues and actions would've been appreciated A LOT. 7. Po and the villains literally didn’t have any animosity. Wtf? Suddenly they all bowed to him and accepted he was the true dragon warrior and just went to the spirit realm...a big NO. Why are they supposed to be so friendly? 8. Zhen was so confusing. I think it would've been better if she remained a villain. Also there was NO need to make her the next dragon warrior. She literally doesn’t have anything that gives off the vibes of a future hero. I personally think Tai Lung should've been the next dragon warrior. What I liked about Kung Fu Panda 4: 1. The dads were awesome. Only for comic relief purposes though. 2. One more time cover by Jack Black. 3. The last minute entry of the Furious Five. I screamed and jumped when I saw them. 4. The chameleon shape-shifting into a mixture of all the villains was brilliant. Overall, a mid-average movie. Definitely unnecessary. However if the team could work hard on the plot and characters, it would've scored higher than 3. Still I had a good time watching it despite the flaws.

Damn, crazy how Dreamworks came out swinging with Puss in Boots: The Last Wish, only to completely trip over and lose all the momentum it gained from that movie. Ruby Gillman, Megamind 2, and now this have been meh.

One thing we can give Kung Fu Panda 4 credit for is making everybody realize how good of a conclusion to the franchise Kung Fu Panda 3 truly was

Why the hell didn't they make Tigress the new dragon warrior? She was literally trained, and built for this her whole life, and she as at one point arrogant towards Po, but Po then becoming her teacher and leading her down the path of his successor would've been perfect. A movie where Po's old villains reconcile with him, atleast Tai lung, in a meaningful way would've worked.

Man, that scene when Po said “I’m the Kung Fu Panda” was definitely the moment of all time. This was definitely a movie.

YT copyright system is PAINFULLY mid

I blame the director, Mike fucking sucks, and they should've kept Jennifer Yuh Nelson. This dude hasn't had a big film since Trolls, and turn this movie into a TikTok reel. IMO tigress would've been a big help to Po in this movie as she's helped him many times throughout 1 and 3, but instead we get a complete mess of what could have been a potentially good film.

KFP 4 clearly didn't focus at all about the back stories of the villians and their ambitions as to why they became the antagonist. KFP1 - Tai Lung was Master Shifu's ex-student. Because Oogway refused to give him Dragon Warrior title and scroll. Becomes a bad guy. KFP2 - Shien was outcasted by his parents and was foretold to be destroyed by a warrior of black and white. Sets out to destroy Po. KFP3 - Kai use to be Master Oogway's brother but because he got power hungry therefore he became an antagonist. KFP4 - The Chameleon just wants to absorb all mighty warriors from the spirit realm... To take over the world and become the best at fighting? LIKE WHAT HAPPEN TO STORY?

I’m sorry, but yall JUST noticed this? I’ve been telling people it’s going to be trash the second the trailer came out. I haven’t watched it, and I do admit seeing Tai-Lung come back is exciting, but from what I saw in the trailer, my first thought was where the hell are the furious five? They were a major mart of Po’s character growth. In my past, KFP (all three movies) were the absolute BOMB, and still are. This fourth one ruined it. It should’ve ended at three and done. Plus the lighting and animation in this one kinda seemed downgraded from the last. If I am mistaken about any of this, please correct me. Again, I haven’t watched the movie, nor am I a critic, but I am a digital media and storyline enthusiast, as well as a person who holds the KFP series close to my heart (except this movie).

I don’t even know why the Chameleon brought back Shen and Kai. Shen was not a Kung Fu master and basically had nothing that she would want. She didn’t seem to want to build cannons. I also don’t believe that she would know who Kai was. His whole deal in the third movie was that he was forgotten. Even Shifu didn’t know him. It also seemed like his spirit got blown up in the last movie, so I’m pretty sure he should be completely gone. I think that the movie would’ve been better if they just didn’t appear. Tai Lung can stay, but not the other two.

dude how the hell did they make Puss in Boots 2 and then everything they've made since has been mid or awful?

Spoilers! I didn’t like the ending of the chameleon scene. All of Po’s greatest enemies, battle ready, just float away. No fight, no resentment, just gone. Especially for Kai, he spent 500 years waiting for a rematch with Oogway, and was brought back to the mortal realm, where he was trying to get, had his kung fu, had an opportunity, and just left. And if any of them had lost, they would have been sent back to the spirit realm anyway. And the third movie made it seem like Kai was dead with extra dead sauce, but he got brought back the same as everyone who was just in the spirit realm.

That ending scene where all the freed and re-energized villains and masters confronted Po was extra stupid. The think the antagonists from the previous films would be eager to settle the score with Po after the defeats they were dealt. But no, they suddenly respect Po out of nowhere. And why?! Because he bopped a lizard on the head?! And not only that, but they all happily choose to "die" a second time when there was nothing stopping them from staying in the mortal world.

I knew it! It should've stayed a trilogy just like the "Toy Story" franchise....

SHEN SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN SUMMONED. That was the moment the film lost me completely, the chameleon was summoning kung fu MASTERS, sure shen knows kung fu and is certainly good at it but, he is not a master, that is why he uses weapons, cannons and miss leads to overwhelm his opponents. On top of that, I hate how they tackled the spirit realm, I always understood it as a place where you can access either by achieving peace of mind and spirit (like oogway) or by being sent there (like tai-lung or Kai), it simply being “the afterlife” with no explanation feels cheap specially considering how shen should boil down in the darkest pit of hell.

here's some behind the scenes info from the co-director, Stephanie, from Reddit (potential spoilers): 1. Early on, KFP4 was considered to be live action-animation hybrid, and featured humans. I posted concept art of the human Chameleon (then, The Collector, even though we already have Kai the Collector) vs Po. Seems like Zhen would've been human too. They'd have come from Hu-man City, apparently... To add insult to injury, one of these versions had Po, the protagonist, stuck in a BOX for 20 MINUTES. 2. Mike Mitchell, the director, had total creative freedom. Hence, him + the studio leadership wanting laughs and a more joke-y vibe led to the overall tone, like the F5's comical side missions. Jack Black called him the "comedy guy", while Stephanie brought "things deeper" and "more heart" 3. Additionally, it was Mitchell who insisted against fleshing out the Chameleon's backstory. Apparently, Chameleon and Zhen had ZERO backstory in early versions. By the time the crew pushed him enough to change his mind, they were too far along in animating to add anything but the Chameleon's few lines. 4. The runtime was a studio mandate since they believed children can't watch a longer film + maximize profits. 5. TV shows are non-canon, as they are under separate film and television divisions that are "rivals". 6. Lord Shen, General Kai, and the Furious Five were VERY last minute additions to the point that their animation rigs were "made of sticks and glue". Hence, no plot relevance (e.g. not redeemed properly) and inability to bring back their actors, as much as some of the crew advocated for their return. Furthermore, there's a thing where actors are brought in for voice roles with X amount of money, and exponential increases for sequels. Apparently, a single line from Jolie would've cost $20 million, so you can imagine why the Five were absent... 7. Not everyone who dies goes to the Spirit Realm. It's not a definite rule behind-the-scenes, but it's vaguely agreed upon that only kung fu practitioners can pass on. It was also Mitchell's idea that all 3 villains were indeed sent to the Realm and that the Chameleon only wanted master VILLAINS summoned. [Pretty sure that retcons Lord Shen but alas-] 8. Pelican is named Chip, and a female. The fish in her beak is Fish. 9. Calvin Tsang, Head of Story, directed "a short film for KFP 4". Though, DreamWorks gave him a low budget but apparently he pulled enough favors for it to work out, with Stephanie describing it as "amazing, seriously" and shows "how strong of a director's voice he has". 10. Future spin-offs uncertain. DreamWorks has dissolved most, if not all, of its TV division. 11. Though, Mitchell was very vocal about a F5 spinoff. Execs are aware of the fans' demand for it. 12. Shifu's staff lacks its golden piece since it has been repaired following his mastery of Chi, per production designer Paul Duncan. (Same man responsible for bringing back the Dagger of Deng Wa with his attention to detail.) 13. Universal mandated for a tentpole film like KFP4 to have "stars" hired for voicework. 14. For the record, Stephanie wanted for KFP4 to "stay truer to KFP1 and KFP 2" but was dismissed as a nobody by the crew. 15. Case in point, she wanted Tai Lung being brought back to be done right. She pitched for Po/Shifu to have a vision of the Chameleon kidnapping Shifu, prompting Po to go on a quest to stop her. Shifu gets kidnapped anyway due to the Chameleon's manipulations, and he's hence present to say goodbye to Tai Lung. The execs loved it but "someone axed it". For those who've seen the film, the vision was reduced to Po's dream enroute to Juniper City. 16. Another example of Stephanie's intervention, she fought for Zhen to be redeemed ONSCREEN after betraying Po, much to the writers' refusal. She was supposed to swoop in out of nowhere to fight the Chameleon for a bit and disappears quickly again. She also ensured that her redemption scene wasn't just dialogue and had action going on. (She admits to Po and Zhen's underbaked relationship not supplementing this scene enough though.) 17. The writers seemed to HATE comments "poking holes at the story". 18. Zhen is a Corsac Fox as its the Asian fox with distinctive facial features. 19. Nico Marlet, renowned concept artist, only worked on the film for a week, left, and refused to come back. 20. Many crewmembers pitched ideas for Zhen's family's backstory but all were discarded. Source: www.reddit.com/r/kungfupanda/comments/1bbbnod/got_to_talk_to_the_codirector_of_kfp_4_and/

6:05 When Mike Mitchell said "Every single character you remember comes back" wouldn't that also mean Master Oogway, Master Ox, Master Croc, Master Bear and Master Chicken?

Kung fu panda 4 is definitely dreamworks’s equivalent of Toy Story 4

Remember when DreamWorks happened to release two surprisingly good and stunningly animated films back to back (Bad Guys, Last Wish) and suddenly everyone forgot that their studio staple is wildly fluctuating quality and convinced themselves it was the start of a new golden age?

I have a good feeling they didn’t let shen and Kai talk is because they didn’t want to hand out the money, which probably influenced the story.

It’s basically another Toy Story 4 incident. The movie wasn’t bad, but it also wasn’t good, it was mid and overall unnecessary. I just wish companies would stop breaking trilogies that should’ve stayed trilogies just for money.

The biggest issue with this films is the villains. Tai Lung is ON THE POSTER and he has roughly 2 and a half minutes of screen time in the film. Kai and Shen not having lines is already frustrating on its on, considering Shen is quite possibly Dreamwork’s greatest villain. The idea of Tai Lung forgiving Po isn’t a bad idea on paper, had he been a proper character I would have been completely on board with his redemption, but I draw the line at the other two. Shen MAYBE would have forgiven him, since it was clear he was conflicted on his actions, knowing they were bad but it was far too late to turn back, so maybe after he died he could fully accept what he did, but Kai? Kai should have ripped Po to shreds for sending him back to the spirit realm. Another thing I just don’t understand is why exactly do the villains WANT to go back to the spirit realm? What’s stopping them from taking a second chance at life? Hell Shen coming back in the first place doesn’t really make a lot of sense, he’s not a kung fu master like Tai Lung or a spirit warrior like Kai, he’s an intelligent general who just so happens to be decent at Kung Fu.

Smash Bandicoot is PAINFULLY mid

"There's been multiple mentions of a rat kung fu master and his army, mantis' existence, and somehow a chameleon is too small to learn kung fu? Make sense to me." - DreamWorks creative team, probably

What REALLY worries me now, with them having planned there to be 6 movies, is that they left themselves in a very weak spot to expand from. So unless they want to give Zhen the Furious Five treatment in the next movies, we’re pretty much stuck with an underdeveloped, shallow character for the rest of the movies, or they have to waste screen time in the next movie to build her into a character worth caring about, when that should have happened in this one 😭 Genuinely, giving Po an apprentice had SO much potential so I personally see how more movies could’ve been crucial, to be able to give Po some pretty cool character growth. If they wanted KFP 4 to be like the ones before it, and didn’t drown Zhen and Po’s scenes with random comedy, I honestly believe they could’ve had a really sweet mentor/student relationship if they explored more of the emotional aspects of Zhen having not had a respectable person to look up to, until Po. (I don’t think they even gave a specific reason as to why her “family” of criminals even disliked her?? Or how she became an orphan?) :(

This movie is not a canon event.

Po's fathers' situationship had more screen time than the final battle with the chameleon

Movie studios need to realise that awkwafina is NEVER the correct casting decision

8:45 Your point about the staff made me realize another reason why the series should have ended after the third one. Chi broke the stakes. By the end of the film, the entire village is capable of just healing Po and amp his power to ludicrous levels. Meaning that a new entry to up the stakes would have to deal with this fact and not have the fights devolve about who has the the most chi and by that biggest power level, but the movie doesn't want to deal with all that so it just pretends chi doesn't exist, not only with Po but with Li and Mr Ping as well.

Remember when people were clowning on Pixar when DreamWorks released The Bad Guys and Puss In Boots 2 in the same year? Yeah, me too…

It's disappointing that Lord Shen didn't even say anything to Po or his dad like apologizing for everything he has done but instead he remained silent and stayed as *nostalgia bait* a shame he didn't do his iconic "Greetings panda we meet again!" Upon seeing Po again

They've poorly written the likes of General Kai - Supreme Warlord of All China and the Master of pain. Have they ever even considered just how much of a menace he was on the last movie? He has more experience than Tai Lung that he was able to turn him into one of his jade collections. The fact that Tai Lung himself is heck of a powerhouse then being conquered by the fiercest general speaks for itself. But they didn't bother giving him a single freaking line?????????? And a successor? really? They could've let po's reputation and strength evolve by those enchanted cage things; it is said to be in equal par with the prowess of ten Dragon warriors. So, why not do that? Let him have a journey like the last trilogy did: He did not defeat Tai Lung, Lord Shen, or even Kai OVERNIGHT!

Tai lung or tigress are better sucessors than the fox Just saying

I knew it was gonna be mid the second I heard they were bringing back Tail Lung so I recently decided to rewatch 1 and 2. Absolute perfection those two films

kung fu panda 3 should’ve been the end and stayed as a trilogy

While I did know that this movie will be somewhat of a failure, I imagined how it could be actually good based on all the trailers and leaks. One of the very first ideas about the good version of the plot I had was that the new journey will be about Tai Lung and Po. How they'll have a common enemy they both need to defeat so while being together Po could teach Tai Lung about all the wisdom he obtained. And at the end Po will make Tai Lung the new Dragon Warrior. I don't know if it's actually good or not but it's deffinetly more interesting than what we had

Kind of sad that tai ling didn't get a better Redemption that was kind of the selling point for me and many others

This really is a case of forcing an unnecessary sequel onto a beloved trilogy for the sole purpose of money, and it’s really sad to see Edit: yeah Ik it’s "planned for six movies”, but it still feels incredibly forced considering how well KFP3 wrapped up

That title made me feel PAIN in my chest

KFP 3 opening scene alone > KFP 4

So maybe unrelated but it has been increasingly bothering me the more I’ve been thinking about it. So early in the movie Po was talking about fighting the fire breathing crocodile and forgetting his name just casually mentioning him like he’s no big deal. Then he’s revealed to have been one of the villains brought back from the spirit realm meaning that he was dead. Since he was dead after Po fought him the conclusion is likely that it was Po that offed him. While we don’t know just how long it has been between movies it seems like the kill was fairly recent but I could be wrong. While I know that Po is not adverse to killing dangerous foes the way he was just casually disrespecting a person he has killed just seems disturbing. Like “oh yhea, remember that guy I killed. Can’t really remember his name but I do remember fighting him.” Am I the only one finding this disturb?

Spoiler: The only scene that I found myself awake for was near the end when Tai Lung accepts Po as the dragon warrior. Yeah it was brief but Tai Lung of all people finding peace in not being the Dragon Warrior was amazing. Sucks that he only had like 30 seconds of screen time throughout the entire movie.

I saw one of the KZfaq videos that showcased discussion from some of the directors and actors. One person legit said “Po only sees things in black and white” and when he said that, I knew the movie wasn’t going to meet my expectations because if the directors miscalculate Po’s character that badly, then the movie isn’t going to stay true to what KFP is. All I see is wasted potential.

THANK YOU FOR POINTING OUT HOW TERRIBLE THE PACING WAS. it was genuinely painful because of how fast it went. dreamworks has been on an awful lose streak since ruby gillman (not entirely including migration)

Okay, I just came up with this crazy idea for a motive for the Chameleon, as well as a few major rewrites. If the Kung Fu Panda franchise is gonna have six movies, then in my opinion Tai Lung should be saved for the very last one for thematic reasons. Also I really don’t see a reason for Lord Shen or Kai to return since they don’t do anything in the story. So anyway, in this version, the Chameleon isn’t trying to summon Tai Lung or any other Kung Fu masters, instead she uses her sorcery to summon much more powerful, much more ancient warriors for their power. The dinosaurs. Okay, I know it sounds crazy but hear me out. In this version, the Chameleon is the leader of an enormous cult-like empire consisting of reptiles that was founded from the discovery of dinosaur bones. From these bones, her ancestors rationalised that reptiles like them were once gods of the earth and so view themselves as superior to the other animals and, as such, the Chameleon’s empire goes around subjugating countless tribes, forcing them to conform to her empire’s doctrine. Through her sorcery, she manages to summon various dinosaurs, who’s spiritual energy she steals in order to gain their abilities, and no one’s able to stand in her way because large dinosaurs are more powerful than the mammals and birds that oppose her. At the same time, however, there’s hints that the Chameleon doesn’t really believe that the dinosaurs were gods, but keeps up the charade in order to hold onto her power. So anyway, one day the Chameleon hears about this so called Dragon Warrior from China. Upon hearing about Po, Oogway, and the legends of the Dragon Scroll and the Chinese Dragons, the Chameleon becomes furious, and so, seeing this as a threat to her power and everything her empire stands for, she advances towards China, with the intent to destroy Po, and the very legend of the Dragon Warrior. Again, this is a fucking crazy idea, but I just thought it would be interesting.

Less than a day after the drama ended and Toon's already back on the grind

KFP4 made me realize that I don't need another 3 kfp movies with new underdeveloped characters and with old ones either being a cameo or having their characters development from previous movies not honored at all. I just need 1 good Tai Lung movie that handles 'the redemption' arc well

I don't know much about the Kung Fu Panda movies despite me watching them like a million times. But instead of going and researching for myself can I ask. Aren't there already books they have written down for the future Kung Fu Panda movies? And I think I watched a video saying Kung Fu Panda 4 was kind of a filler and the movies that come after will be more interesting in terms of lore? Like I said idk anything about it but it would be cool if they did some kind of like Legend of Kora shit like if the spirit world and physical world were opening gates to eachother and Po would fight them off and seal off the bad spirits or some sh idk I feel like that would be cool lore but they probably wouldnt do that

w vid bro I can see improvement since first couple vids, proud of your progress bro

I like when people say that dreamworks was in a golden era when the bad guys and puss in boots: the last wish came out, only for dreamworks to have the longest streak of mediocre/bad movies of ruby gillman, trolls 3, Orion and the dark, megashit vs the boredom syndicate, and this. Some say mid 2010s was the dark era despite having films like Peabody and Sherman, httyd 2, penguins of Madagascar, king fu panda 3, and Captain Underpants. People should know that dreamworks is inconsistent, they released shark tale after Shrek 2.

How the heck was Kai even still alive

They could've had it easy. A classic: Memory loss. Po is back to basics because he forgot all he learnt, and he needs Zen to find the secret that will restore his memory and overcome his renewed fears. Then, as their adventure progresses, Po will understand that he doesn't need to find what was inside him already. And in the meantime, you get a new finely-crafted villain. Instead...we get...this... Lamest plot and recycling of villains -the sign of lazy writing! *sigh* at least i hope the five were out there to teach their own new warrior, one who has all their abilities, the legendary T'AI FU

I don't think DreamWorks was taking this project very seriously lol

This film was ACTUALLY mediocre. Like really bland. It’s sad how the film series began with genocide, grief, healing, and inner peace, to this cash grab

Dreamworks is like eating a box of randomly assorted chocolates. Sometimes you get something really high quality, painfully average, and then other times you get bottom-tier mess that's only "chocolate" in name.

Even when I saw kung fu panda 4 I also felt that was a unnecessary sequel

The movie had budget half of the previous one, so I knew it would be mid

Tai Lung had so muh more potential. I feel so betrayed.

...oh..too bad...I was really thinking we were goona get a hearttouching story about idk Tai Lung trying to repent by helping Po defeat Camelion, like I imagine he was humbled so much in movie 1 then in movie 3 ( since we see Kai took his chi) I thought maybe he had time to meditate and work on himself in th spirit realm.... I thought maybe Po would even offer him beeing a dragon warrior only for him to refuse saying he had his chance and he lost it, and Then the tittle would be passed to that wolf or whatever she is girl as a new generation

I love the Kung Fu Panda series. But this latest 4th installment has issues with its story. Zhen knows kung fu, but the Chameleon can't?! Why?! Her excuse was because she's small....but what about Master Mantis?! He's much smaller than the Chameleon and he kicks butt! They even scrapped out the idea for why Po is going to Juniper City because Master Shifu was kidnapped and put in an enchanted cage. Furthermore, Shifu would of ended up seeing Tai-Lung for the last time reunion before departing back into the afterlife. Again, both ideas were scrapped out. The villain's name was lazy, her motives were contradictory, the stakes were very underwhelming and it was a major disappointment compared to the last 3 villains. The Furious Five were all left out and reduced down to non-voiced cameos. Li-Shan, Po's biological father, was reduced down to being a joke and a meek father concerned for Po's safety than rather than being a trained fighter and chi user, that was shown at flashbacks of the 2nd movie and the end of the 3rd movie. Zhen, the new fox thief character, who already knows kung-fu and the movie never explained how, when and where did she learned it from. It feels like she's just an addition fill-in to replace for The Furious Five. Zhen is like the symbol of "girl power" and her "flaws" doesn't make sense to the movie, kinda making her a total Mary Sue girl boss in disguise. In the end, the animation quality and the music are great, but the story suffered alot with too many plotholes caused by executive corporate interference. The movie was not amazing. It was just....serviceable to make their money back. While the critics did give this movie a positive reception, the real fans will the know the truth of this 4th film's true value.

No furious five? Yeah, I knew it was going to be bad. I quite literally called it.

Having Kungfu Panda and mid being used in the same sentence is painful to both see and hear.

I think the chameleon had a lot of missed potential. it was rly disappointing to me how they showed off the realistic fear of po thinking tai lung had returned only for him to immediately figure out it was just a shapeshifter. coupled w/ the fact that initially, the chameleon didn't have any kung fu skills, she could only mimic appearances; imagine the 4D chess mind games she could've played w/ po, making him think all his greatest enemies had returned and he'd have to take on all of them when it was just her. lord shen was already someone who had to focus on brains over brawn, they could've taken that to a new level w/ the chameleon. another thing that makes her disappointing is that she only has ties to zhen. all the previous villains had some strong tie to a known character--tai lung to shifu, lord shen to po, and kai to oogway. but chameleon is only tied to zhen. ig I can see how they tried to make her like a toxic controlling parent but idk I just couldn't get into it, maybe bc the backstory was so simplistic. I also don't get why chameleon was turned away from kung fu schools for being too small and weak or w'ever when 2 of the furious five are a mantis and a snake who are smaller than her. I think there should've been a better reason, like the previous villains had

SUbbed to you after seeing you on Charlie's video. Glad you are still up and running.

when has the 4th of any movie that wasn't originally designed to be a story spanning multiple movies ever been actually good? literally never

Kun Fu Panda 4 feels more like a reboot than a continuation in my opinion.

The fourth movie should have been an overall more emotional film. How about shifu being too old/ill to be the current master requring Po to be the new master. Po would feel apprehensive about this new responsibility and struggle with living up to Shifus legacy. A gut wrech could be thrown in where shifu unfortunately dies and Po has to become the next master. He adjusts to this new position setting up for the next film to be about the next dragon warrior. I made this in 5 minutes so im not sure if it shows here. 🤣

DreamWorks didn't learn from KFP's tv series where they did take out furious five from the season and end up with low rate on IMDB

This movie is basically a Disney direct to DVD sequel

Finally someone who understands how bad this movie really is everyone keeps on being so easy on it. People get mad at me for trashing this movie but it’s because I love this franchise it holds itself to a grounded and more mature standard yet it cheaped out this time around we shouldn’t reward lazy work.

Yeah should have made it so the valley of peace was attacked randomly by past villains, causing Po and the furious five to be all "What?! But he should be dead" Then going to investigate things, only for the 5 to be taken out one by one, with the chameleon taking the final one's form to trick Po into letting his guard down. "Po. He took them all down, they're all DEAD." *Real Tigress shows up saying that's not her* Also reveal they weren't killed. But NO a total fart.

ong didnt know that Aquafina's character being the next chosen one was a spoiler because of how obvious it was

theres a lot of things i hate about this movie (the way Po seems like he was taken from the first movie, the phoned in message of Change, the awful new character designs, the constant corny jokes, etc.) but what killed the movie for me was when the Chameleon was talking about how she was denied Kung Fu because she was too small or whatever. What about Mantis and Master Rat? The entire story is built on this motivation, and it's just wrong 💀 update: i don't like Roz's new design, but if it's anything like the book, The Wild Robot is gonna be insane.

When I heard about KFP4 and that Tai Lung was coming back? I realized there was a lot of potential interpersonal character drama between him & Po! It'd test Po's new role as a master to teach a student, especially one that was a former opponent that started Po towards his journey of becoming the Dragon Warrior! Po could've been not just the teacher that Tai Lung needed? But a friend that guided him towards a new path in life. And then I realized Awkwafina was in it and remembered that the only consistency in Dreamworks is how inconsistent they are with their quality.

As flawed as the third film was, especially with it going over board with the jokes and how it handled Kai as a villain, you could tell that the people who made it genuinely cared and it still had some amazing moments (the talk that Po and Li Shan have about Po's mother is genuinely one of my favourite moments in the entire trilogy) I agree that Kung Fu Panda 3 isn't perfect, but I do think it's a bit overheated But with the 4th film it lacks the soul of the original trilogy, there are some good ideas that had potential (the Chameleon for example being able to transform into her enemies is a really cool idea) but this film feels more like it wanted to cash in on people's nostalgia rather then genuinely wanting to continue Po's story

Like bro why Kai suddenly become chill guy and didn't say anything about Po... he literally got blown off by Po chi in previous movie 😂

we dont get kung fu panda 4 until match 24 in the UK, but im scared cause its one of my favourite film trilogies... I can't watch this video cause of spoilers but reading the comments ive now lowered my expectations to gutter tier 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 the first 3 were masterpieces

Honestly dreamworks should’ve put the budget they had for this movie into an actual theatrical megamind sequel

That title made me feel PAIN in my chest.

I feel like The Wild Robot is going to be a beautiful movie, visually and storywise, but it won't do well in the box office because it won't attract children. Maybe parents will bring their kids see it, but then they have the choice of seeing the ultra-commercial upcoming minions movie.

And also for some reason some people say that kfp 4 is better than 3

The Furious 5 have been getting done dirty lately. They weren’t in the last 2 shows and now a whole movie. They got their own fight scene in the first movie, they went on the journey with Po in the second, third movie they had a mix of both. They better get their own movie to make up for this. I would love to see that.

Despite all my hype for KFP 4 one concern that I & I’m sure a lot others had is that now that Po’s story is finished any future movies won’t live up to the first 3. Sucks to hear a lot a people saying the movie was dissapointing :( hoping the supposed next 6 movies end up being much stronger films but it feels uncertain

Holy hell dude; I’m editing a vid about this too and it blows me away how similar our take was. Although I had a ton more to say about the martial arts and action choreography. Good stuff

0:27 is so reletable