that's what happens when you have a monopoly on making the game for the league that has a monopoly on a sport

21:55 "Make me laugh at how disgusting you're being, and you get a free pass." Pat shares how he's escaped arrest for so long.

I recently talked to my brother about this as he's a big sports game fan (Madden, NBA,) and he lead me to some enlightenment on this subject. You guys were dead on when you were talking about how sports fans just want the faces and the stats of the real players, but you undersold the point. They literally don't care about _fuck all_ else but it being a sport simulator. This complaining you're hearing about? A goddamn fraction of a fraction of the people who buy these games. They could piss, moan, fight, fucking Molotov a police station for all anyone ultimately gives a shit. As long as there's a monopoly on the licensing, vast majority of their consumers will keep buying these shitty games.

Sport games have always been marketed to people who don’t play video games, and will continue to be for the foreseeable future. How unfortunate.

I think the reason why Yakuza ads are acceptable while other ads in games aren't is because not only does it fit the hyper-realist nature of Yakuza (he says while Kiryu dodges missiles and rockets), but the Ads are almost completely non-interruptive. You're not getting interrupted by a commercial for Mandom deodorant every 5 seconds, instead its more like you see it in the background and you go "Hey, I know what that is. That's neat" and you continue on your way. Really, I think that's the trick to good and bad ad shilling in a game. As long as the ads don't interrupt the videogame in any significant way, and instead are just background noise, then you get a pass. Heck, ads as background might be better advertisement as well, because then you get the sort of subliminal "man, I'm thirsty. I could go for a Vernors" as your character passes by a poster that your conscious brain barely processes. Really, as long as you get to play the videogame, and the ads don't interrupt or distract you from the videogame, I feel most people probably would be fine-ish for the most part.

Can't wait until we get ads for the next NBA game in a NBA game

Two thoughts: 1) The official sports license matters not to me. Just make the game good (and replace the players with either big tiddy anime girls or stylish mechs) and I'll be back in. 2) Yakuza, once again, proving by example that things CAN be done right.

What Pat is talking about reminds me of the Power Rangers movie and their not so subtle Krispy Kream brand deal It's so dumb and so in your face that I couldn't help but laugh everytime someone said Krispy Kream HECK! IT'S EVEN SUPER RELEVANT TO THE FUCKING PLOT OF THE MOVIE!!

Once again, NBA Street Vol.2 was the best it has ever been. Sports games peeked way early.

There is commentary line for NBA 2k19 that occasionally plays when a timeout is called, and it is essentially just one of the commentators talking about Gatorade non stop for about thirty seconds.

If Netflix started showing ads, I would immediately cancel my subscription.

To this day I'll never forget when I was younger and my older brother used to write down entire seasons worth of roser changes in the NFL and personally did the work himself to update it I don't even think he plays sports games anymore

All the batteries in Alan Wake (basically ammo for your flashlight) were Energizer branded, too.

FF7 Remake brought to u by 7 UP drink it for LUCKY 7s

As far as i've got with people buying shit games, it seems to be an information problem. For every consumer who makes an informed decision about a game, dozens if not more just go "hey the new version of my basketball game came out" and thats it. They don't even know about the more scummy stuff cause they don't care to look

But making the ad interesting takes effort and effort harms the company's bottom line.

God imagine if other games had ads like Sports games have. Imagine the hell of playing the next Final Fantasy and before each battle you saw an ad for like Grubhub or something unrelated.

The Yakuza ads like the one for the restaurant Pat was talking about could also be seen as promoting potential tourism lol

I remember there were like, 2 billboards in Saints Row 2 that were specifically made for actual ads instead of the spoof ads you see everywhere else in the game, i only noticed it when it turned into a captain morgan ad, then a few days later it changed to a Friday the 13th (the 09 remake) ad

people mock Ready Player One for being pure nostalgia bait but lets be real, they hit the nail RIGHT on the head with the skeezy companies monetizing the SHIT out of the games they make and that like about "we can sell 87% of the players non essential viewspace before we might start inducing seizures" bullshit. because thats happening RIGHT NOW.

NBA Oops all ads

"Yakuza:Dead Souls is pretty good"~Patrick Boivine

Woolie, that was also true of cable tb, it being ad free.

Hulu’s model is even sillier because by their own admission, they don’t choose the amount of commercials for the $6 subscription. I’ve contacted support and they tell you that commercials are based on popularity of the show, so you can pay to reduce commercials EXCEPT for big time shows or shows you may have gotten Hulu just to watch.

Hulu now has ad-free, which is even more than just subscribing to the service.

All this talk of ads and Square-Enix games and you forget PE1 and 2 with the refreshing taste of COCA-COLA.

Cloud should be riding a Yamaha manufactured bike in the remake

I think another element of this that you guys missed out on in relation to Yakuza and normal Sports games before this bullshit and even the Alan Wake example which is that the ads do not INTERRUPT the game. You can walk right past that TV in Alan Wake, you can play Yakuza totally fine the game does not prevent you from playing more of the game to stare at an ad, the president talking scene is just another PART of the game, a patently absurd one, sure, but like, you just talk to a dude for a while. That's Yakuza, you do that in Yakuza. Meanwhile, this new example just puts a hand on your chest and says "hey no, hold up a sec" before you walk into the part of the game you actually paid money to enjoy.

Pretty sure madden 06 was the 1st one where you could choose the time of day and that shit blew my mind

What I hate the most about ads is the ones where they always try to hard to be quirky and funny and you end up like that guy screaming 'STOP FUCKING STOP!' at the top of your lungs because there taking something you like and slapping a big burger sticker on it saying 'buy our burgers'. Like has there ever been a Avant garde esq ad that was just some guy walks up to a screen and says "just buy our food, it's good" and walks off?

I'm working on how to include ads into food products as you eat them. It's an untapped market.

My plan is to stock up on as many single player games (with replay value) as I can in preparation for the coming videogame industry crash that is quickly approaching.

The Yakuza games are too lovable for me to care.

What is FFVII Remake has an ad for RuPaul's Drag Race with the actual RuPaul in it?

Listening to this now, I'm reminded of a guy who bothered to write in to game informer (i think, ir's been a while) to tell them that ESPN NFL 2k5 was going to be the last football game he ever bought. Because it had a robust team creator, and was better than that year's Madden, and the very next year EA bought exclusive rights to the NFL license, so he figured the games would never get any better. And he was right and has been proven more right every year!

I just want nba streets back. Arcade style sports games have been stolen from the games industry since 2007 damnit.

To be fair what is happening in videogame land was expected. I am glad we got this little golden age that was the 90s and early 00s and we ahve been living in its fumes. Consoles were always meant to be the arcade experience at home, and pcs for weirdos. Arcades were the most greedy shit imaginable on par with microtransactions and horrible mmos. Corps like EA just gravitate towards it naturally and videogames wont be unscathed at the end of this. But at the very least just cal them gambling.

Just wait until the ads have ads

Pepsiman is pretty disgusting with ads for pepsi, but it's LITERALLY in the title. They're ALLOWED to eye-fuck you with pepsi

"I remember people getting real pissed off at Hulu where, it's like, "Why am I paying x dollars a month for Hulu, and now I'm seeing a fucking commercial in my fucking face?"" Is that more recent? Because Foxtel has been doing that for FUCKING YEARS Down Under.

Vote with your wallet. Not really anything else to say.

Paid for the game but the company still suckin'

I mean in the end of the day, Twitch Streamers reading off comments are basically advertisements

I wanna point out about NBA 2K19: *You can turn them off. Go to your profile settings and turn off 2KTV, you will not get ads because the entire news segment is now cut out.* Take note this isn't a defense. This IS absolute scum to do, especially to do later in the same game's life. BUT it is fixable, they just hid the option for it like the slimy bastards they are. They got your 3 buck Switch purchase because it got thrown down to that price and they absolutely took advantage of that in a scummy way.

Also Sirius doesn’t do ads anymore.

"Isn't that a licensing nightmare?" Brands in Japan fucking BATTLE ROYAL for the opportunity to get free advertising in a Yakuza game dude, are you kidding me?

You can actually go in the settings and turn off the adds

Is there a free way to watch the podcast that I’m unaware of? When I’ve tried to watch it on Twitch it says subscribers only.

I don’t use Hulu anymore but I remember that I could watch subtitled anime for free without an account but now, they blocked that and even if you pay cheapest subscription, I heard you still had to deal with ads.

It probably wouldn't help, but I wonder if anything would change if someone just made a really solid modular sports game (different engine/game for any particular spot of course) and people could literally just add in the names, stats, and icons themselves. Oh look this free fan project is not only just as good as Madden, save for the Ultra Realistic TV Program Grafix, you can now just swap out a folder of .txt files to get the same effect as buying the next year's Madden game.

I would also add racing games as well

I have the solution to the yearly sports game problem. Release a new title maybe every 3-5 years and make it a subscription service(maybe $5/month) instead, and when a new player joins a team, patch them in. When somebody retires, patch them out.

I'm surprised they never got to Red Bull and Street Fighter

God, I fear this happening with runeterra so much. Tbh, it makes me paranoid for blizzard going under, because without hearthstone there as competition what’s stopping runeterra from becoming hearthstone

Oh man, now I get it. The title of this segment is a fleshlight joke?

Heheheheh squeeze

I hate ads

The audience for sports game must literally be 80%+ made up of the CORE audience, the audience that doesn’t keep up with major gaming news, the people that are sports fans first who happen to buy sports related video-games because they love the sport, the people that will crack open their wallets because they don’t understand why it could be wrong that they’re being wrung for every cent they can take. Even if the 20 or so % stop supporting these games because they are the ones that can see what’s happening it wouldn’t matter, to the much more average layman it’s just an annual sports video game about their favourite goddamned sport and they are more than willing to buy year after year because it’s THEIR SPORT.

Non-consensual Ad-ssault

Shit fighter 5 led the way

Jesus Pat is such a French goblin. Go back to the gym man. You looked good then.

ew sport gamers

But this podcast isn't free...