Catamaran sailing comparison Lagoon catamarans or leopard catamarans

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Catamaran sailing comparison
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@mruss2237 2 жыл бұрын

Been wanting to see this precise comparison for some time now… thank you sir 🙏🏻🤙🏻

@phillipthompson1395 2 жыл бұрын

The man is back again another great video thankyou Sir

@markgibbs5632 2 жыл бұрын

Incredibly informative!

@tlevans62 Жыл бұрын

When you order any of the basic upgrade packages on the Lagoon you double the fuel and water tank sizes, so you end up with 160 gallons of fuel and water. Also, if you buy the gen set option, you lose the extra water tank, but you’d add a watermaker so fresh water wouldn’t be much of an issue.

@Luke22022 9 күн бұрын

A very informative comparison. Thank you!

@Hondo0101 4 ай бұрын

I enjoy your content. Thank you.

@douglasmontgomery6315 2 жыл бұрын

I'm a catamaran fan and have intensively researched Lagoon & Leopard. Additional info, the Lagoon 450 bulkhead issue has been reported by over SIXTY owners now, so not caused by over-tightening rigs. Multiple pictures of these peoples bulkheads have shown poor design/use of plywood and large holes drilled in said bulkheads to run hoses/wires that may have contributed to some of the deformation. There have also been reports of other Lagoon models having issues as well (albeit not as many as the 450). The Leopards, unlike the Lagoons have been using a steel beam, instead of wood for the bulkhead for many years. Lastly, the Leopard 42 is the first Leopard to now use all foam/fiberglassed bulkheads (no plywood). I'm assuming these two things add to the cost over the Lagoon as well....quality :). I think you should of added sail area to your comparison to talk about likely hood of SOG vs AWS...aka how well will they sail in light winds (with standard sails of course). Thanks for your videos.

@rogerramjet4797 3 ай бұрын

www.youtube.com/@travelsketch that should even things up a bit

@clausgiloi6036 2 жыл бұрын

Love the L42, hope to upgrade from our L40

@scottwolfe6029 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks.

@richardrose7382 2 жыл бұрын

I’d like to hear your comments on the old Gemini 34…more of a coastal cruiser, but remarkable use of space

@danielcolucci692 2 жыл бұрын

Hey, tks for the amazing video. Would it be possible to make a comparison video between an Excess 11 and an Aventura 37?

@High_Desert_Tanner 2 жыл бұрын

Used Lagoon. Because $450k makes for a LOT of upgrades. With enough left to buy a Lambo 😂

@clintbillton2161 Жыл бұрын

Nice vid, Jack Black ;)

@SJMessinwithBoats1 2 жыл бұрын

I sailed a Hobie Monocat in the mid 70's, (rented a Stoney Creek Lake, near Detroit) Isn't these two wonderful boats simular in that way to the Hobie? There's your comment like you wanted, Mr. Chris!

@marcodeglinnocenti Жыл бұрын

I would like to see a comparison between a Leopard 40 PC and what the market offers. I think there will be an hard comparison because the smallest PC Leopard has very good features. Good job guy. Thanks for the video.

@markybolton 8 ай бұрын

Can you do info on the Delta FX-40 Catamaran??? I can't find any info on it!

@thomastaylor6991 2 жыл бұрын

I'm no marine architect by any means,but I do believe hand rails are a necessary safety feature on sailing vessels. Maybe that flock of birds should be designing aircraft?

@dahveed284 2 жыл бұрын

Little known fact: Catamaran is latin for Expensive AF. A cat seems like the perfect boat until you price one. Ugh. Even used they're "catamaran" as the Roman's would say.

@louisfbrooks 2 жыл бұрын

How about some trimaran reviews like the Dragonfly or the Neel. The Dragonfly 40 looks really interesting.

@markybolton 8 ай бұрын

Please do other catamarans like the Bali, Excess, Nauitech and others!

@danmallery9142 2 жыл бұрын

I really hate that upper deck lounging area. All it does is raise the boom, taking away sail area and make it hobby horse more. Still I kind of prefer the Leopard. The design seems even more modern than 5 year development time difference. Plus, the "bulkhead issues" aside, the videos I have seen comparing construction quality decidedly favors the Leopard. All moot points, however since I can't afford more than 1/10th of the asking prices (not to mention the 100s of thousands more to make them sail-able) 😅

@ChasingLatitudes 2 жыл бұрын

Agree 100 percent

@dahveed284 2 жыл бұрын

I really don't think the upper or front lounge areas are worthwhile for me. The boat already has plenty of area to lounge. They could have made the saloon a little bigger and created more storage instead of the front lounge. And the upper lounge just eats into the coach roof area where you could have had some solar panels. I mean these aren't deal breakers, I just don't see using them at all. The front door is nice if you have to go forward doing bumpy weather. But I know some people have expressed concern with the front door leaking if water is coming over the bow in heavy seas.

@ChasingLatitudes 2 жыл бұрын

@@dahveed284 agree, in my opinion there are far better uses of that space

@castrocollins6371 Жыл бұрын

Totally agree. Leopard should give the option of removing and replace with larger mainsail and more solar.

@joseantonioquinterocamacho5178 10 ай бұрын

Me gustaría ver la comparación del Lagoon 50 y el Leopard 50. Muchas gracias

@mikeferguson2828 2 жыл бұрын

I am a older leopard 40 owner. (The Melvin Mareli designed boats) this 40 and the 46 I still believe were the best sailing Leopards built. Sadly you did not talk weight of these 42 ft boats. My boat is 7,6 tons empty and 10 tons full. The new Leopard 42 is 12 tons empty. This is a massive amount of weight added and even the older 46 comes in at 10 tons empty. So you have a smaller boat weighing 2 tons more ? Really someone has lost the plot at the factory from a sailing perspective these are dogs to sail. The raised boom is another bad move adding to worse sailing ability. Sadly the Leopards were always seen as better sailing boats than the lagoons but I think one can clearly see they are following in their footsteps making heavy, poor sailing vessels. No wonder seawind , outremer are seeing such grow, as people that would like to sail not float around would rather buy these boats.

@markybolton 8 ай бұрын

I had always wonder why mfr are creating such a high boom. I would think it would be hard to manage and limit performance!

@johnq.public2621 7 ай бұрын

@@markybolton Correct, it does just that! 🎯

@Frog13799 4 күн бұрын

Mike, I respectfully disagree on the performance, but agree on the high boom, I am a Leopard delivery skipper and have sailed every model made for the last 15 years across oceans. The 42 sails surprisingly well, it has very good load carrying ability and its high bridge deck clearance is chalk and cheese compared to Morelli 40, A fair comparison to the 46 would be the current 45, the 45 will smoke the 46 on every point of sail, the new 50 is an absolute gem, its the best Leopard yet, seaworthy, comfortable and pretty quick.

@brandonhitchings8540 2 жыл бұрын

I literally just spent a week sailing a lagoon 42 in Greece, two weeks ago. I am / was a lot like most of you. Really interested in a big production boat as they are cheaper, bigger, fancy this and that. Oh you will spend most of your time on the hook blah blah blah. The lagoon sailed so poorly. The self tacking jib is to narrow and you loose a massive amount of sail area , out boat the main sail kept binding up so we would have to go stand on your tippy toes in 5ft waves on the coach roof and manually pull it all the down. We had 35knt wind on perfect beam reach and could only get 7-8knts of speed. It sailed awful. Very nice inside, very comfortable. But i have now shifted my ideas of what i want in my boat. Im now thinking about a Nautitech open 40. The boom is shin high, it can sail in light winds, and up to 12-14 knts You still have big beds and comfortable living space. But can still sail in comfort in bad conditions I have been put off of the lagoon

@paulhaywood706 2 жыл бұрын

Oh dear Brandon !! I'm sorry to tell you that the 42 is fast when you know how to sail it. We have done 10,000 miles in ours including the Atlantic and we are very rarely passed by any other sailboat. It takes time to learn how to get the best out of her but she will easily do 8 knots in 16 true with the standard sails. Add a code 55 and she does another 2 knots on a beam reach.

@SailingPauHana 10 ай бұрын

We had a similarly experience. We just crossed the entire Gulf of mexico on a Lagoon, and it sailed very poorly compared to our monohull. In my opinion, lagoons and maybe other cats are unsafe for offshore. These boats are way too easy to go overboard. Standing on the coach roof to untangle reefing lines and pulling down sails is dangerous as well. And don't get me started on airflow. These boats in hot climates are not good. There is zero airflow in the back area when at anchor. It's hot as hell back there....even with those 2 tiny windows opened in the front and the big sliding doors opened. These are beautiful boats for a marina or at anchor (if you can run the generator and AC), but I will just stick to my monohull and save the half million dollars.

@donellefson5882 2 жыл бұрын

What are your thoughts of a trimaran

@calledout4437 Жыл бұрын

If I bought one, I could see myself running the engines more than actually sailing so I'd perhaps go with the Leopard just based on fuel capacity.

@ShinLeeChan 11 ай бұрын

Then you should buy a motor catamaran instead.

@deniselumsden6738 Жыл бұрын

Could you compare Leopard and Aquila power cats

@mrmped1 Жыл бұрын

There are a bunch of Lagoon 42s with bulkhead issues popping up. So, don't lie to people. Lagoons bulkheads are small weak and poorly built. When you walk around lagoons, all the floors creak. In my book, a creaky boat that creaks while sailing is a sign of poor construction.

@ChasingLatitudes Жыл бұрын

Lagoons are trash, always have been, I don't even like catamarans let alone lagoons

@m1k3droid 2 жыл бұрын

Has Lagoon fixed the hull flexing/bulkhead breaking problem seen in Sailing Parlay Revival?

@douglasmontgomery6315 2 жыл бұрын

Depends on your definition of “fixed”

@clintbillton2161 Жыл бұрын

Ask, Sailing Nahoa.

@mapoz1509 Жыл бұрын

@@clintbillton2161 well, that was a Lagoon 410 with a rotten balsa core floor, not a 450 and bulkheads.

@lolni8218 2 жыл бұрын

Il suffit de lire les fiches techniques, pour constater que les Lagoon sont toujours les plus lourds, les plus larges et les moins toilés... Donc il n'y aura pas de surprise sur les plans d'eau, les Lagoon seront toujours à la ramasse dès qu'il faut tenir une moyenne !

@knutarneaakra6013 5 ай бұрын

Lagoon is the best choice pronto no question at all. If you want to go fast on water you better get a powerboat.😊

@freerangemarketers 10 ай бұрын

A little out of my price range but nice 👍

@ChasingLatitudes 10 ай бұрын

Fair enough!

@bucknaykid5821 2 жыл бұрын

SECOND!!!!!

@alexandermieke8795 2 жыл бұрын

sadly but i have no imagination about feet and inches....could you help in future europeans with also anouncing meter and centimeters!?

@jackdickerson2031 2 жыл бұрын

Leopard is by far the better boat. You get what you pay for. I would not be afraid of the Laggon new or used.

@Rich-rd1ge 2 жыл бұрын

Is a 42 ft cat easier to maneuver in marinas than a 42 ft Beneteau?

@ChasingLatitudes 2 жыл бұрын

Lol no

@rabukan5842 2 жыл бұрын

@@ChasingLatitudes I agree Chris, though twin engines does make for super easy maneuvering. I have a 50' twin sticks MY without any thrusters, and I can dock it anywhere in my sleep, even in winds. My 35' sailboat was always interesting in the winds. But, with the modern sailboats with thrusters, piece of cake.

@TYVOLEFABRICATION Жыл бұрын

Lagoon design all the way . I don’t like shape and curves of the leopard

@rabukan5842 2 жыл бұрын

I agree Chris, why spend a million dollars on a cat when you can get a brand new DS for half that price? Almost double the maintenance, slip fees, cost.... Guess if you have the bucks...

@bethells86 4 ай бұрын

Lol, after the dramatic and loud intro it’s just someone talking specifications of each vessel. I was hoping for some detail with someone actually going through an actual vessel, even a race between 2 examples.

@jeromehebert3184 2 жыл бұрын

I like the cats and these are nice but i can't afford either so i won't be buying one any time soon ;-)

@ChasingLatitudes 2 жыл бұрын

I can't afford them either

@m1k3droid 2 жыл бұрын

fly bridges on cats are dumb

@m1k3droid 2 жыл бұрын

technically they're dumb on all sailboats, cause they force the sail to be higher on the mast, so you get more tipping for less actual sail thrust

@necrokittie2291 2 жыл бұрын

why am i watching this? i don't even want a catamaran.

@ChasingLatitudes 2 жыл бұрын

Haha

@waitshiftchance5893 Жыл бұрын

Too much sarcasm.

@eljefe1153 2 жыл бұрын

No Sound? Or it's my phone!

@bucknaykid5821 2 жыл бұрын

your phone is off lol

@eljefe1153 2 жыл бұрын

@@bucknaykid5821 Ahora siiiii!!

@blavezzoli 5 ай бұрын

Be great full you didn't have to listen to his annoying commentary. I'm 90% sure this guy was drunk or a moron.

@user-pn6pk6qu6o 8 ай бұрын

Leopard

@cartmanrlsusall Жыл бұрын

The lagoon has some serious issues with finish,hatch leaking and that bulkhead recall ,but it is easy to sail and roomy especially on anchor. Leopard is a proven circumnavigation capable builder and they are laid out nicely especially without the older slanting stairstep forward windows,they are the winner in this comparison. Strange gemini the most numerous cat out there never makes these lists

@deerfootnz 9 ай бұрын

Leopards as just as badly built as Lagoons. The sad reality of all low end production boats is that they are built by factory workers, not boatbuilders, who are managed by people who are under immense pressure to save money every day. The end result is boats that are fine-ish in sheltered waters for short trips, but not fit for purpose for any real voyaging. To be clear this applies to all production boats, mono and multi.

@Frog13799 4 күн бұрын

@@deerfootnzwhat rubbish, I am a Leopard delivery skipper, they cross oceans all the time, I would rather be on a leopard than 90% of monohulls out there in heavy weather, look on youtube they sailed the 39s from Cape Town to Australia and New Zealand via the Southern ocean, I have been in 50 knot conditions multiple times in the 44, 45, and 50s

@mistman5640 Жыл бұрын

Gander, silly goose.

@podocrypto6072 10 ай бұрын

You're freakin funny!!! 😹😹

@jon_s Жыл бұрын

"leopard" is a pretty weird brand for a boat, considering that leopards hate going in the water

@wayneanderson1641 2 жыл бұрын

The problem I see with a catamaran is all the potential freeloaders! The owner pays for everything and cleans it up after they leave. I had a beautiful trawler so I know what I'm talking about.😪🖕

@MrOmarkiam 13 күн бұрын

Unfortunately both built with poor quality control. Do not buy either! Let the buyer beware.

@messingwithtexas 9 ай бұрын

Great info… really great video… but your killing me with the whole “sounding like a millennial making fun of Seinfeld doing stand up making fun of airline food.” I mean “WHAATS UP WITH THAAAAAAT?” Silly gooses? I’m done.

@deerfootnz 9 ай бұрын

Both of these boats are realistically motor sailors at best. They sail like bricks. Its not hard to understand: fat hulls, heavy displacement, low sail area in an inefficient sailplan. Boats like these will always be worse at sailing than boats that put more priority on these factors.

@ChasingLatitudes 9 ай бұрын

True

@Frog13799 4 күн бұрын

Yet us delivery skippers average 165 mile days and often crack 200s on them without a kite

@williampalmer7026 2 жыл бұрын

Potato!

@PeteLeuenberger 3 ай бұрын

AI generated, terrible

@ChasingLatitudes 3 ай бұрын

What's ai generated you clown, that's my voice, my video, all done by me with not a single ounce of AI

@PeteLeuenberger 3 ай бұрын

@@ChasingLatitudes Ok, sorry about that. Then it's the worst video I've seen in a long time. Reading a spec like a robot. I might be a clown, but you are a bore !