Also 6 9 3 forever! 😂

Man can’t believe you came back from 40min of having nothing.

@@Subliminal.-. Ty. Neither can I! In voice chat games, attitude and tone are huge. Never give up, and people may be more generous in helping you in last place!

Although blue was in a great position early, Red and Black let drew use them for wayyy too long lol. Be careful when at your table one guy is being a table general like that, remember to play your game!

GG, but id say be extra careful when dealing with table generals like Drew... He used you longer than you should have let him imho. He talked you guys into some extremely advantageous ports and out of blocking him multiple times when he was on 8/9 and had winning rolls. Almost even talked his way out of getting road taken from him lol.

Crazy how different the echo sounded too. Went from Smooth-Drew to Complainy-Andy 😅

Disagree. At first yea, but there came a point when Red HAD to stop porting for Drew and stop popping on demand like that, he got talked into it for longer than he should have. Drew almost won this much much earlier.

True I replayed and checked the trade again and I was like nice scam 😂😂😂

@@hemilpatel-cv3sf Ok glad I’m not imagining things

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That’s exactly why pacing is super important. Good players will collaborate against the leader to have the best chance themselves :)

Typical in the sense that the leader was getting blocked BUT the amount of collaboration, trading, coordinating blocks, and balancing is something you just don’t see in auto-matches. I think if Sparrow just focuses on building points he most likely still wins. Going into the dev deck was not the call for him given that it was relatively dry.

Feel u. I wonder if you could just come there and mute yourself unless you want to trade on your turn.

Yeah, I was left with the same feeling. Drew played the game well by shifting focus onto Sparrow even when he should have been the target. I'm happy that Sparrow at least convinced the table to give black the road. That was the right play for the board. And I believe maybe Drew got a bit too emotional just at that point, probably lost a bit of sympathy from the other players. But then again, it is super difficult to keep the mental in such a long game, where you've been fighting just for a chance, and then seeing the game slip out of your hands. Feel like you guys could have chatted a bit more with Sparrow post game though and given some recognition. Got a feeling that he probably left the game feeling a bit down, which is not nice when he played it well.

@@magnushem5130 Blue had to speak up sooner. Like, the early team up made sense, but all those crazy ports red was doing for Drew was insane to watch. Just too much collaboration. Drew played it to perfection, moaning about his position early too and honestly should have won much earlier. The guy is dangerous on the mic for sure.

@@TP_Gillz Agreed, he should have tried to stop it earlier! Feel like he was a bit shy/or scared to say anything as he already lost alot of goodwill by being so ahead early.

@@magnushem5130 It's fascinating to me how in these higher-level competitive Catan matches the importance of good table talk. It's a skill not many people have honestly. I only recently got into Catan at a more competitive level and I feel like this game is ripe to explode mainstream cuz of it. Hope it does!

@@TP_GillzBlue should have stopped buying cards as soon as the collaboration started. He bought 6 knights and spent 12 res cards while getting a total of 0 points for them.

You realize me coordinating the board gave everyone a chance to have winning rolls in this game? To say anyone got “seduced” in this situation seems like a strange read given how close we were to losing in the first 30 minutes. Some games require strong leadership and players listening for the right person to make it work.

I willing let Drew lead me as I knew that there was no point having both of us trying to take control of the game and that he would evantually try to sneak a win which I was confident I could spot, which I did.

@@dandydrew lol come now Drew. No need to try and defend it, it's part of the game. Your table talk was absolutely spot on in this one and you know it lol! You almost even had them not take road from you! lol This game was a really good example of how table talk can win you a game. From start to finish. Well done! I enjoyed it. Blue was strong at the start ya, but you took FULL advantage of that situation, as you should have. Its a skill.

It’s a hard call for me but I started with 6311 as this gives me 60% of a city. I have very good opportunities to roll an early city for momentum. No matter what, the options I had required a little bit of luck and hustle.

It was important I help DeLemon maintain army and block Sparrow here. That trade allowed us to build a lot of goodwill between us. Sometimes you got to give up a little bit to get more.

If he stops attempting to fight army and build his final points, he wins. When he tripled popped, he could have citied the 6511.

​@@dandydrewTru that

If it bothers you that much that you have to leave unproductive insulting comments, I would recommend you find another channel and not suffer here. No reason for you to stew in your negativity and attempt to bring others down over a family board game. Move on and find your happiness. ❤️

​@@dandydrew I think the comment was more than unproductive, as it highlights my perspective on key issues facing our community - one's that I'd love to see community spokespeople take more acute stances on. That said, I respect your desire for positivity in the comments (one of your most admirable traits) and can appreciate that you aren't making any commitments to changing your gameplay tactics. While I may feel certain ways, there's no doubt that your content drives more people towards this game, which hopefully helps us build a stronger community. Best of luck to you, and thanks for all your hard work.

It sounds moreso that your issue is with the game, than the creator. If you are looking at high level competitive play, this is what it looks like. If you want light hearted casual fun, there are plenty of channels out there for you. Catan is a game of manipulation. Plain and simple. One thing I will add, is what one says or does in a game does not reflect who that person is outside of the game. Drew is a standup guy, these kind of comments aren't constructive.

​@@shadesonbroadway Thanks for the thoughtful comment. I agree this is what high-level comp play looks like currently. I disagree that this means Catan is a game of manipulation or that it aught to be that way. I haven't heard a good moral justification for why it should be a part of the game. Catan isn't a free-for-all. The game has a ton of examples of having a moral code which gets upheld at a community level. There's widespread agreement on the moral problems with griefing and card dumping. Most see this as problematic behavior because it tears at what makes the game fun for people. I don't think most people don't want to be gaslit when they play catan. I certainly am not expecting to be lied to like we see here, the same way that I'm not expecting to be revenge robbed all game by the first person that I place the robber on. I'm aware that in certain circles lying is seen as both a core part of the fun and expected to happen. If I join a game expecting gaslighting I'm agreeing to it being acceptable (no problem with that), but I don't think most players are expecting to be gaslight when they fire up colonist. I take issue because this kind of lying seeps into the rest of the community and is justified as "high-level" play rather than a niche offshoot where people get to live out fantasies of manipulation. People watch these videos and then lie to/gaslight other players that are not expecting or wanting this, and that bothers me. Lastly, about my comment being not constructive - I disagree. I'm championing a claim on the expected morality in game in an effort to both discourage Drew from doing this, and also to show others that Drew's take on acceptable play isn't universal. To be clear, I'm not calling Drew a lying scumbag out-of-game, but I am calling him a lying scumbag in-game. No one seems to disagree that he lies in game to gain advantage. If what you do in-game isn't a reflection of your out-of-game character, then my assessments of your in-game character shouldn't bother you out of game. But I think that these accusations of people's in-game character bother people in the "high-level" community because they want to feel like their in-game persona has integrity and it bothers them that not everyone agrees that this kind of behavior in-game is morally acceptable. And perhaps my main point is that it's only acceptable if people are expecting and wanting it to happen. Hence why I wouldn't want to play with Drew. That said, upon reflection and reading the comments from other players it seems like everyone here signed up to be gaslit and found that enjoyable, so I'll take my opinion somewhere else :p

I disagree, for me this was entertaining from start to finish…I actually didn’t realize this video was over an hour long until I read your comment lol

No worries and only love here too. These videos are clearly longer than the usual 20-30 minute ranked matches but that’s the nature of voice chat games. Considering in-person games will go at least 60-90 minutes minimum, this wasn’t too bad considering what we went through to get to the finish.

Our IRL games last 1-2 hours always