Yeah dandy did him dirty this game 😂hopefully he’s learned to watch for snakes next time he’s near tall grass Everyone for themselves in these tournaments, even if that means stopping a certain player, gotta be careful when someone you work with could sneak the win themselves.

Hippo's second personality definitely nice and wholesome

Orange was a great sport and clearly a great player to win 3 games in the qualifier rounds. Excited to see how he develops in the community after this game!

​@@TheRealAT dude they are playing a tournament and its finals. It is part of the game. If you were playing soccer would you miss a penalty shoot because the goalkeeper is a nice person?

@@TheRealAT L O - freaking - L!!!

He will become a better player as he said he wanted to use that game as a lesson. He handled everything really well and appreciated his mood about the whole thing.

he fail since he said he was going for dev but in the begainning didn’t try for it. if i was him i would said to dan i will dev for knight for us. that was him thinking he can get road then dev later but by then black rob him too much.

I did say I would not put it on him if I pull a knight. Keep in mind, I had a great setup after the 83 settle. Most of the devs I pulled where on my own.

Thank you for sharing the kind words, and you are right that I am not immune to bad moments or frustration. For me, I’ve played in probably close to 50+ tournaments at this point and what I’ve learned is to reset before each game and move on. Even if it’s a good game, you have to go into the next game with a clean slate. This is generally why I don’t mention too much about my mentality or emotions as it’s generally better to not let those negative emotions stew or stay around - Letting go and staying focused is huge for me… when I can. The short answer is “Yes, I could react better in certain situations.” I try my best to be unbiased in my analysis but it’s difficult to encompass all the nuances. If I mention 1 thing, I am sure I will forget something else. Lol Appreciate the feedback and I will keep it in the back of my mind next time around in those situations.

One technique is called 'labelling', and to get the most out of it, you need to practice it in every day life, not just high stress situations. However, even just doing it in the moment will have a marked impact on mood if done correctly. It's a concept used in Cognitive Behavioural Therapy and has proven track record in treatment of PTSD, addiction, depression, anxiety, etc. The general concept is that you see your emotion from a distance and accept it as something that happens, but without having to get caught up in it. Having the emotion is not within your control so shouldn't bear judgement, how you react to the emotion is within your control. Here's how it works: 1. Before the game, try to think about the likely situations that could trigger the emotional state where you feel out of control. Consider how you would prefer to handle this situation and picture yourself doing it. This primes you to be on the lookout and react with intention. 2. In the moment when you're triggered, describe to yourself in your head the emotion you have right now and what caused it to be. Tip: instead of "I am ", say "I am feeling " E.g. "I'm feeling anger right now. I'm feeling anger because I just got robbed even though another player is in the lead." It's important that you do this with acceptance and no judgement. It's understandable that this situation could generate a feeling of frustration or anger, and that doesn't make you bad. If anything, take a moment to congratulate yourself on recognising your emotional state mindfully instead of getting caught up in it. 3. Then move your attention from what you're feeling right now, to what you want to do instead. E.g. in Colonist it could be "Let's go back to tracking Red's hand." or "Let's focus on my next objective and how I'm going to accomplish it after that curve in the road." The anger or frustration can remain in your peripheral awareness for a bit while you do this, just don't make it the focus of your attention. It should quickly fade. If you practice this technique in other situations, like if your train is delayed or another driver cuts you off, it will come more easily.

Love the response. I practice meditation and mindfulness, and labeling is very much in the spirit of that. Hopefully I can bring some of these ideas to the channel in a productive and educational way for everyone. Thanks again for sharing!

Took inspiration from powerpoint transitions during school presentations.

I was a discord VC player for years in the leagues. Playing ranked catan has been a secondary mission for me until I started the channel. I love the voice chat games A LOT more!

@@dandydrew Please do more voice chat games! They're so entertaining and educational

I agree with taking the 65 or 6 3 12. You don’t need to 4 for 1 at all… you can trade a wheat for sheep with me and we are both happy!

orange got played by drew the whole game, he realized it only in the end when it was way 2 late. He did not play it right at all. Once drew settled on the 8 wheat he had the best ows in the game and orange certainly should not have fed him devs.

Glad you noticed that Jim. It’s wasn’t like I had a horrible setup… I had one of the best setups on the board after 83. After the sheep trade for which was a VP, I popped all the other devs on my own through production and steals.

I consider it community service to keep everyone on their toes😂 Truly, he was a great sport and good player. Excited to see his development moving forward.

Damn… putting salt into the wound 😂

@@dandydrew haha I was hoping to face you tbh :p

I didn’t have it when I said that! No 3:1 port 😊

@@dandydrew I thought you had the brick port, but it was the ore port...my bad.🤐 I also don't think anyone is giving enough credit to your placements and strategy. Table talk aside, it was a great plan to go to the 8, 3...once you get it, you literally have the best of every resource.

@@petecampbell6117 Yeah but of course the table talk is a lot more in your face and obvious to some. I had a great position!

The settle wasn’t going away. Better I keep the devs flowing to make sure I secure army and look for things such as VPs and monos. The ore port isn’t really that great considering I want to use the ore for devs and cities.

VPs on the whole are a great thing. The time they are a problem early.is when you can ONLY win with getting army and you lose pacing to secure it. With my setup, I have a good amount of flexibility to where I don’t necessarily NEED army to win. This is the main issue with going full OWS - If you don’t secure army, it’s very difficult to win unless you get god tier pulls.

I think using the 65 or 6312 was the optimal play in that situation for sure

Yes, I don’t like 4-1ing in general but especially ore in that situation. At that moment, there wasn’t a bad development card for me. I would HIGHLY recommend you consider as many alternatives as you can before you 4-for-1

It’s most likely my last option I would consider. 4 for 1ing ore in that situation is nasty and inefficient. Buying the dev keeps me flexible and helps me go for army, while also keeping ore in my hand for future devs and cities

Not so sure that’s the case at all. By tossing out the ore, I lose a lot of middle game potential for cities and devs, which is one of the main reasons I won this game in the first place. You can make the case that I can better Port the brick but that’s coming in coordinated with wood anyways so it’s generally useful. Also taking away the 3:1 does bring a lot more notice to orange who needs a port in this game… better I keep him with options and not hurt his game too much for long term cooperation. Ultimately porting the ore is way too slow.

What do Indian guys have to do with it 😂

@@dandydrew lol I don't know..this video the guy sounds Indian and there was another random indian guy in another video where you dominated the game. The algorithm is feeding me random games from different times so I'm not watching in order..could just be a coincidence 😂

I assume this is your first time watching my channel

I would argue my reputation has been used against me more than helped me in most cases. The perception of pacing is sometimes difficult to determine as someone’s point of view can change a lot.

@@dandydrew possibly yes, I was mostly referring to this game, not in general.

Bad take, drew gets targeted unfairly due to his reputation, he rarely or never gets favourable trades purely due to reputation.

Too much working with others in a trading and cooperation based strategy game? Would you prefer we all mute each other, not trade or dealmake, and pray that the dice treat us well enough so that we win? You have to realize the skill of being able to work tables and communicate effectively is one of the most impactful skills in Catan at the highest level. You might not like that dynamic but that’s how the game goes. The skill gap becomes a lot more immense and noticeable when you initiative the communication aspect. I prefer a meta where the luck element can be mitigated the most and VC is one of the best ways to do that. Thanks for the comment!

@@dandydrew Thanks for your response. I didn't say that you shouldn't make deals or talk with each other. The problem was you were talking primarily with only one of the others. Orange basically acted like your farm team in this game - aside from the very end of the game - he did exactly what you told him to do. Sure it's not your fault he did this - but if everyone was on the audio call - it would have been a more level playing field. No one likes to watch a blowout game in sports, especially if all the calls are going their way. It's also kinda synonymous to large market teams trading for all the big time players - the audience then wants to cheer for the underdog. In other words, I started cheering for the others, because to me it seemed unfair how the two of you were collaborating so early on and throughout the duration of the game regardless of how well people were doing. Anyways, I'm not here to start a fight or anything and I think you do an excellent job of breaking down the different strategies of the game of Catan (perhaps the best at it) - but I do think there is a line with trading and making deals that turns it from being a good strategic move to being collusion. I'll leave you with one last analogy...do you cheat on a test if you can get a way with it and it helps you be successful on a test? (In other words, at what point in catan would you not accept a trade that is clearly unfair - say someone offered you a 4 for 1 that would help you win?). Cheers, and have a great weekend!

Thanks for the thoughtful response. I understand your point of view - I wish everyone joined VC for this game but they decided not to. Yes, I did cooperate with orange but I also wasn’t getting robbed by black or blue, and pulled near perfect development cards at the right time. Things certainly went my way and I don’t think it was purely because I had a farm team in this case. All the other devs were bought from my production and steals. You bring up an interesting point about fairness and collusion/cheating. You have to understand that orange won 3 of his qualifying games to get to the day final - He isn’t a bad player by any means to be able to do that. At the same time, I am one of the strongest voice chat players in the online scene. I’ve found if you want to play in competitive scenes like discord and you aren’t aware of some of these strategies, you will learn pretty fast they are out there or fall behind. Orange messaged me after the game and said he learned a lot after that game. I love that attitude as it shows me he will continue to improve. If a table is going to give me a clear advantage in using my communication skills, then I will take it every time. Kingmaking (or cheating) trades are something completely different and you know when they are happening. It’s a matter of a player’s intent. I understand maybe the audience might not like the dynamic overall but this is the reality of competitive online games (sometimes). Let’s hope future games have everyone in VC next time. Appreciate your response and support! :)