15 Things You Might Miss in Nahida Story Quest "Homecoming" (Genshin Impact Lore & Theory)

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@Caelum099
@Caelum099 Жыл бұрын
Gosh, I just realized that the Goddess of Flowers is the key player here. She knew that Deshret will fail inevitably but chose to help him because she had seen the future. She knew that the series of events will lead to victory even if sacrifices will be made. Even though she was banished from Celestia she retained her form and powers. She even created the Jinn from what's left of her powers. How much more if she was once a divine envoy of Celestia?
@haku9815
@haku9815 Жыл бұрын
Ikr! Thanks for putting that words out of my head, I don't know how to describe it well like you did. The mystery slowly crumbles as we getting answers is just satisfy my Genshin lore thirst. Man I love Genshin lmpact for this reason.
@obituarybug
@obituarybug Жыл бұрын
I wonder if she was also the God of time, since they seem to be connected to a lot of nations so far and she seemed to know the future or be able to manipulate it like we saw them do in Raiden's story quest
@surajhawk27
@surajhawk27 Жыл бұрын
I see you took your time to give us the wisdom
@___..Blade..___
@___..Blade..___ Жыл бұрын
10:18 Yes it would sound normal because after Scaramouche removed himself from Irminsul, the traveler wakes up and asks "Do you know Balladeer" to which Paimon responded "Balladeer? Is that some kind of food?"
@couch_commander5882
@couch_commander5882 Жыл бұрын
But if the geoshroom remembered Rukkhadevata does that mean being covered in dark mud saved him from the memory wipe that Nahida did in Irminsul?
@CatWithBlueHat
@CatWithBlueHat Жыл бұрын
Yes.
@couch_commander5882
@couch_commander5882 Жыл бұрын
@@CatWithBlueHat wow!
@yogeshwarans7334
@yogeshwarans7334 Жыл бұрын
So there will be some others who still remembers rukhadevata🙄
@cobylin9192
@cobylin9192 Жыл бұрын
@@yogeshwarans7334 or “those who share the memory” of osmanthus wine
@spymadmax584
@spymadmax584 Жыл бұрын
​@@yogeshwarans7334 yep, every single person who effected by dark mud
@atriyakoller136
@atriyakoller136 Жыл бұрын
As for changing forms, I do believe that it might be different for Nahida and others because those aren't their innate forms, like the animal/human forms for the Adepti or Yae Miko. It's a stretch, though...
@yumine_
@yumine_ Жыл бұрын
I was about to mention this. I do think this is the case as well. Fungi isn't part of Nahida actual form, she learned about it basically by "fast forward" through time. This is the thing that drains her power.
@cokeislyf5753
@cokeislyf5753 Жыл бұрын
i agree. Miko and the Adeptus are born in their specific animal form, and it's a part of their nature. And since they're considered mystical beings, they can shapeshift into a human-like appearance in order to adapt to human society and can transform back into their original form.
@cokeislyf5753
@cokeislyf5753 Жыл бұрын
@@yumine_ i also think nahida was exhausted not because of tampering with time, but because she is already in her weakest form, the smallest version of the greater lord. if she transforms into any creature that is highly connected to the specific element she wields, she's mostlikely using a big portion of her energy because she stated that if she will make another fireseed, she might became as small as a blade of grass or a twig, her original form. and then she asked paimon that they plant her so she can comeback but it will be a long time process.
@KontauriC07
@KontauriC07 Жыл бұрын
I'm thinking maybe Yae Miko and the Adepti are doing that for hundreds or thousands of years that they've already mastered changing forms. While Nahida is just a newbie in doing it.
@tiramix
@tiramix Жыл бұрын
I agree with this, what Nahida was doing is more like 'shapeshifting' and not 'transforming' between own alternate forms.
@anthonymanggoi1337
@anthonymanggoi1337 Жыл бұрын
Celestia doesn't seem to get woodworking, a nail is suppose to fix a problem not breaking things.
@Kevin-nk7tk
@Kevin-nk7tk Жыл бұрын
😂😂😭😭
@piyushverma7534
@piyushverma7534 Жыл бұрын
Yea someone rlly need to hammer that into their head
@ashenzenden
@ashenzenden Жыл бұрын
💀
@ifakeifake7612
@ifakeifake7612 Жыл бұрын
I mean it fixed abyss rifts. But...
@greatedcorn
@greatedcorn Жыл бұрын
woodworking is done with dead trees lol
@mariapazgonzalezlesme
@mariapazgonzalezlesme Жыл бұрын
20:52 to 20:57 - Taking account that Forbidden Knowledge either drives you mad or Elezear. Deshret was aware that Apep's plan to defeat Celestia with the power of the Apocalypse would only end in shambles and create more troubles than it's worth. And what a better way to kill two birds with one stone, by allowing himself to be eaten - to escape Celestia's gaze, protect his people and getting rid of Apep through the process.
@vanessachowjiaying4423
@vanessachowjiaying4423 Жыл бұрын
Taking into account Genshin's parent story Honkai, the Abyssal power is akin to Quantum, while the Light realm/elemental power is akin to Imaginary, it's kind of right to some aspects as both sides counters one another.
@Rozherhn
@Rozherhn Жыл бұрын
Apep does not believe in humans, that is why he believed that Deshret would fall quickly in his ambitions but it was totally the opposite. He exceeded his craziest expectations in every way but in the end Liloupar in his revenge brought down the kingdom of Deshret where he made the mistake of use the wedge that was there freed the abyss. All those abyssal energy had to be swallowed by Apep due to the deal he made, and Deshret was not absorbed because he became the seal since Deshret always had that his kingdom would be eternal and therefore he would never fulfill the deal with Apep, who would win. to the death. Coincidentally, he also wanted to do something similar but she could understand that it was useless and she didn't go any further like Deshret.
@kanishkjaiswal5088
@kanishkjaiswal5088 Жыл бұрын
@@Rozherhn Who is lupital? that is the first time I ever heard of this name.
@sar-cat-stic
@sar-cat-stic Жыл бұрын
​@@kanishkjaiswal5088 I think they meant Liloupar, the genie
@SonnyFRST
@SonnyFRST Жыл бұрын
@@kanishkjaiswal5088 the racist bottle
@sahandhashemi5130
@sahandhashemi5130 Жыл бұрын
Its a small detail but if you remember the first time that elemental fungi talks about her child she said that she named her after a traveler from far land but because it has happened so long in the past she cant remember her child's name. But in the fight scene with apep we hear that she named her child Nur(نور), which in persian means the same as Lumine. The question here is that shouldn't her child’s name change depending on which of the siblings is your main character?!
@vergiltasev7108
@vergiltasev7108 Жыл бұрын
While the connection with Lumine is an interesting prospect, the elemental form only says "an adventurer" in the english dialogue. However I can't claim this for the Chinese or Japanese versions.
@Blairtheadorablekitsune
@Blairtheadorablekitsune 9 ай бұрын
Lumine means light, but so does Aether. The names have that connection, so perhaps the name doesn’t have to change
@Fusaex3
@Fusaex3 Жыл бұрын
About "Changing forms" : I think it was more like it's hard to change into different species other than human? Venti is originally a Wind wisp so I assume he can change into his previous form and take form of any human( he took form of his friend and depend on how you interpret his story quest you can tell he took form of real Stanley too) Zhongli originally is a dragon and wasn't it said somewhere that he took form of different humans with different ages in the past? If you think about it many Youkais (not all) can take form of human, even if they real form is some kind of beast, but I never heard of a Youkai that can take form of different youkai. Yae Miko is Kitsune so of course it's not hard to take human form that represents her but I don't think she's capable to take form of any creature, maybe she can only take form of other humans but I'm not sure about this too. I don't know Chinese beasts and divine beings but I assume Adepti are a bit similar to Youkais, they can take form of human that would represent them and go back to their original form but they can't change into another species. Well what I want to say is it seems changing to look like human don't seem to be a problem to Archons/some yokais/adepti but I think Archons can change into another species(Nahida changing into fungus) but this would take too much power to do and characters like Yae Miko and Adepti wouldn't be able to change into anything else than their beast forms and human forms! I hope it's understandable... my English is not that good, sorry for that >.
@dragon_nova_luna
@dragon_nova_luna Жыл бұрын
as far as I recall Zhongli debunked that story about him of changing forms as fictive(many stories of him prove to be exaggerations). we only see him in one human form he still appears in today.
@kotarouinugami1745
@kotarouinugami1745 6 ай бұрын
@@dragon_nova_luna Well, we also see Zhongli's "exuvia" - the form he used during Rite of Descension. Which looks like of like a Chinese dragon. So he clearly changed at least between those two forms. But overall, I am under the impression that many deeds of the Adepti and his other friends and allies, like Marchosias, ended up being attributed to Zhongli. So it's very much possible that the woman in that story was not Zhongli himself, but somebody else, perhaps Madame Ping or Guizhong.
@M_K499
@M_K499 Жыл бұрын
My jaw dropped when you mentioned that there is smthing sealed under inazuma. That is creepy and cool. I really wish the anime covers anything from the past events of teyvat but I feel like that might not happen
@jessiellanes3004
@jessiellanes3004 Жыл бұрын
I hope a antagonist unseal that so I can see the electro dragon But the cause will be that inazuma island will sink
@DavidJohnson-ib1dh
@DavidJohnson-ib1dh Жыл бұрын
It's probably a reference to the Abyss though. The Sakura tree's purpose is combating the Abyss not some dead dragon. Besides we already know the Electro dragon was Kapatcir.
@ii.sxlary8742
@ii.sxlary8742 Жыл бұрын
@@DavidJohnson-ib1dh Kapatcir is a bird dawg
@danielm5535
@danielm5535 Жыл бұрын
It could be a Dragon Sovereign- in the Enkanomiya book, there is a reference to Ourubos, another Snake (?) God. Near Sangonomiya Shrine, there is a Sumeru Scholar who is investigating the beliefs of Watatsumi Island and has concluded there were two gods.
@DavidJohnson-ib1dh
@DavidJohnson-ib1dh Жыл бұрын
@@danielm5535 Ouroboros isn't a creature but an aspect of the Primordial One. Recall that Enka used to be part of the unified Ancient Civilization that existed before 2nd Throne arrived. As such they all worshiped the Primordial One and nothing else, because there wasn't anything else. Specifically the Orouboros represents the cyclic eternity imposed by the Primordial One on Teyvat which the prophet-engineer Aberaku led a heresy against after Enka fell into the Dark Sea. Aberaku preached that the unending eternity of the past under the PO had now given way to a progressive era of time and "history" and worshiped Istaroth, the god of moments (or time). Thus "Before Sun and Moon" is religious tract that records the religious friction between the disillusioned ex-followers of PO and the aristocracy descended from the ancient priest-kings who still tried to milk the whole Primordial One for all they could get out of it even after Enka was abandoned by the PO, by creating the Sunchildren, arresting and later executing Aberaku and later still Spartacus. Anyway - point is - Orouboros not a god. It says so explicitly in the Enka text.
@sharpcheddar6453
@sharpcheddar6453 Жыл бұрын
It could be that those who can shapeshift between human/non-human forms learned how to do so through their process of “growth.” It’s obviously possible to do it instantly, even for Nahida (though it taxes her), so maybe it’s that learning how to change like that safely and naturally is what takes time and growth.
@hoho7029
@hoho7029 7 ай бұрын
sussy vishap people
@gavinwilson7088
@gavinwilson7088 Жыл бұрын
Even if he isn't the Second who came, the dragon king is a strong candidate for the true identity of the sinner on his own merits. He's not a god, has access to great abyssal power, is an enemy of Celestia, and based on his name, likely has ties to Khanri'ah.
@simplysolus8916
@simplysolus8916 Жыл бұрын
Zhongli actually has an ability similar to Nahida's where he can watch his entire region. We find this out during his discussion with Venti at Hu Tao's dinner. (While Zhongli claims not to have known Venti had arrived when Venti gripes about the lack of welcome, Zhongli's awareness of the wind guiding a man is why he sent the Traveler to the area the man was at.) Likewise, Venti seems to be able to use winds to watch over areas. Ei, who claims to be fully aware of everything that goes on is the only one without such an ability it seems. :S
@s.8462
@s.8462 Жыл бұрын
Would make sense, since Makoto was the original archon
@Biohacker777
@Biohacker777 Жыл бұрын
I want to believe zhongli could see anything that touches the earth like toph seismic sense from Avatar but as wide as liyue, and venti too with wind current but his sense are mobile, it in radius wherever he stand like echolocation, it goes smoothly with anemo gnosis being a freemoving queen I have three theories regarding raiden ei, 1. she can see everything under stormy clouds of inazuma, but since she hide inside raiden shogun, raiden shogun is the one who can see and rely information to her, she puts thunder barricade around inazuma so she can sense a trespassers enter or leave inazuma 2.only raiden makoto have those senses since shes the original seven 3.raiden makoto and ei were twin god, they both needs to connect their focus, makoto can see people when lightning flashes and ei can see people under dark clouds, ei means shadow, but makoto died so she lost this power
@amsmsmsd
@amsmsmsd Жыл бұрын
yae miko can watch inazuma through thunder sakuras
@sweetyboy8187
@sweetyboy8187 Жыл бұрын
Well, earth, wind and plants are everywhere in the world but not lightning. In fact, Ei, or the shogun can still unconsciously create thunderstorms that covers all the sea areas of inazuma, which means they have similar degree of authority over their region and elements even without gnosis, just differ in the nature of their elements.
@Songforyall
@Songforyall Жыл бұрын
my guess its because inazumas thunder storm is left in stasis by the puppet shougun. if Ei was in control they'd probably be able to watch inazuma through via electrical signals by manipulating said storm
@anthonymanggoi1337
@anthonymanggoi1337 Жыл бұрын
Nahida leading her army of Aranara, not carrying weapons, but the tune from her video. 'La, La La La, La La Laaaaaa~🎵🎵'
@piyushverma7534
@piyushverma7534 Жыл бұрын
Nahida just has a phone to receive Aranara calls and her ringtone just goes like LA LA LA LA LAAAAAAAAAA
@Rozherhn
@Rozherhn Жыл бұрын
2 things would be missing that I noticed. The first would be that Apep seems to have been blinded by the forbidden knowledge, which caused him this hatred towards Celestia and confused the reason for obtaining the knowledge that was part of the nature of the dendro element. The second is that the entire dragons vs. Celestia event is not registered and no one on the surface remembers it, it is as if it did not exist, those words being that the winners write history but this does not put Celestia as the good and the dragons Like the bad guys, it rather seems as if Celestia blames herself for everything that happened and erases the guilt of the dragons so that it is not judged by others when this almost destroys Teyvat.
@kotarouinugami1745
@kotarouinugami1745 6 ай бұрын
It is certainly not an accident that almost no one remembers the world before Second Who Came. In Enkanomiya chronicles, it was said that some kind of "prohibition" was put to prevent people who knew the previous world from coming back to the surface. And the Archon War that started shortly afterwards has killed a lot of witnesses among the more long-lived people.
@malanimsgaming
@malanimsgaming Жыл бұрын
So there's a chance that we might see a new area in Inazuma and that would be the Electro Dragon who might still be alive, just like what happened to Azdaha who was sealed away by Morax and the Adepti
@carara07
@carara07 Жыл бұрын
Aw, I love this video, breaking down one of the most lore-filled story quest! My brain can't take it all lmaooo. I agreed with most of the points, however I have some different opinions, regarding: 1) Nahida's shapeshifting abilities; it is indeed hard and exhausting for her bc it wasn't part of her original form at all, and to achieve that shroom state, she kinda skipped times that was supposed to be the evolution and growth. I believe this is different from Inazuma's Youkai and Liyue's Adepti, both are mystical beings, which already had those forms from the very beginning, and they also accumulated experiences and growth needed to do it easily by their own will. It's understandable that Nahida is way too exhausted bc she kind of crammed it all in few seconds/minutes, moreover, she is a newbie at shapeshifting. 2) More than Two Dendro Archon; I believe the Geoshroom referred to Normal/Big Rukka AND smaller Rukkha (after saving King Deshret's civilization). It was still Rukkha all along, she shrunk and lose big portion of her power but it's still her. She probably only lose 75% part of her (kind of), but it is STILL her. Eventhough it may happen several times already, one of them which Geoshroom witnessed. Meanwhile, in the ultimate moment of creating Nahida, 500 years ago, she made a whole brand new one, out of a different branch, then delete herself 100%. Which is why, I still believe that there are only Two Dendro Archon. As to why Rukkha warned Geoshroom that she might not remember it in the future, probably it is already her 'habit' to shrink and lose some powers. I believe this is also tampering with her memory, eventho it's not erasing 100% of it. But she already knew that at some point, she might pass her duties into a new one (she probably already thinking of creating Nahida). These are just my two cents, I'm trying hard to grasp these lore, lol. Cmiiw and feel free to have some discussions! Thank you, Cat, for the amazing video 🐱
@anthonymanggoi1337
@anthonymanggoi1337 Жыл бұрын
When Nahida hears the complaints about Wanderer's mannerism in the Akademiya, she would have to tell this Inazuman man that he is 'Ina-lot-of-trouble.'
@CalypsoRin
@CalypsoRin Жыл бұрын
Ok this isn't supposed to be funny sksjss
@Zohrah1022
@Zohrah1022 Жыл бұрын
Cyno approves! Nahida loves cyno's unfunny jokes
@Pain-And-Gain
@Pain-And-Gain Жыл бұрын
I'mma give you 2 answers: 1- INAFF. 2- *Cyno happy noises*
@piyushverma7534
@piyushverma7534 Жыл бұрын
Brother this is a lore video
@Notevenmad955
@Notevenmad955 Жыл бұрын
11:31 When Nahida deleted Rukkhadevata, everyones memories were altered to replace Rukkha with Nahida. Even she believes she purged the forbidden knowledge with Deshret long ago, way before she was even born. Everyone just thinks the lord of the forest was always Nahida.
@hainguyenthanh8601
@hainguyenthanh8601 Жыл бұрын
Have the people who keep trying to use the abyss to destroy Celestia not learn from the failure of those who came before. All they got to show for it is going insane and corrupted. Seriously I hope someone make fun and humilated them if they lose AGAIN. Celestia god: Have I ever told you about the definition of insanity ?
@Aural4444
@Aural4444 Жыл бұрын
If we learned something from the event with the Wanderer, it is that when something is deleted from Irminsul, only the "information" is deleted but the things that have already happened cannot be changed, the world will change so that the "information" is deleted but the World events will be the same, they will simply have another "explanation" (Like instead of Wanderer having killed all those people, an avenging descendant appears who kills everyone and dies leaving no offspring) So it seems natural to me that "forbidden knowledge" still causes problems but in another way.
@DavidJohnson-ib1dh
@DavidJohnson-ib1dh Жыл бұрын
Irminsul changes the past. The game text is very clear about this. Rukkhadevata, Nahida, Traveler, Paimon, Wanderer and Nicole all state this is so. And they do so explicitly except for Rukkhadevata who is a bit vague and open to interpretation.
@thwartificer
@thwartificer Жыл бұрын
​@@DavidJohnson-ib1dh No, members of Raiden Gokaden are still dead
@DavidJohnson-ib1dh
@DavidJohnson-ib1dh Жыл бұрын
@@thwartificer It was 4-500 years ago, so I should hope so.
@Aural4444
@Aural4444 Жыл бұрын
@@DavidJohnson-ib1dh Remember the vase that Paimon accidentally broke while worrying about Scaramouche? The vase continued to be broken despite the fact that Scaramouche no longer existed and had become a Wanderer, and Paimon no longer remembered him. This was to show us that while you can change "lore" you can't change "events".
@DavidJohnson-ib1dh
@DavidJohnson-ib1dh Жыл бұрын
@@Aural4444 Nicole told us a cat or a bird broke it in this samsara. The past changed as she stated (three times in a short speech in fact).
@anthonymanggoi1337
@anthonymanggoi1337 Жыл бұрын
We must always remember this about Nahida, she's purpose holding back her energy. Remember what she told Traveler to do in her Voice lines. She told them not to put the jar of Candied Ajilenakh Nuts where she could easily reach them.
@lowliethxd1471
@lowliethxd1471 Жыл бұрын
You're probably thinking on thos too hard. It's just that Nahida has a very sweet tooth (just as much as Ei), so you shouldn't let her grab onto candies, as she'll munch on it. Then again, she can fly, so no matter how high you put the jar she'll always reach it 😂
@yumine_
@yumine_ Жыл бұрын
Phew, what a journey this one. King Deshret & Goddess of Flowers' lore went hard, we don't even get to see their faces. At this point I'm very curious, I'll take even a slight sillhoutte
@owlofficial765
@owlofficial765 Жыл бұрын
so it means that Rukkhadevata was already small during Archon War since the events during King Deshret's fall was before the Archon War. Rukkhadevata was small for about 1500+ years which means she reigned as an archon but not in her adult form. This explains the statue being in small form and why she's also small when Nahida met her at Irminsul
@IAmDAN004
@IAmDAN004 Жыл бұрын
15:29 I vaguely remember something about what the Sorush world quest taught me: both the power of the Abyss and the power of the gods are equally "imposing their own order" onto the natural law of Teyvat, twisting them into following their ways Basically, we got otherworldly powers clashing from both sides, and the people (read: vishaps and dragons) who were caught in the middle, suffering in various ways
@anthonymanggoi1337
@anthonymanggoi1337 Жыл бұрын
Nibelung isn't affected by forbidden knowledge and can utilised it. If Nibulong is one of those long-bodied dragon, could we say that Nibulong is a 'bookworm'?
@DavidJohnson-ib1dh
@DavidJohnson-ib1dh Жыл бұрын
There's no reason to think the Dragon King wasn't negatively effected by Forbidden Knowledge of course. Most likely it had nearly as hard a time as Apep and all the other dragons.
@chocomulk
@chocomulk Жыл бұрын
u always come in clutch whenever i dont have anything to watch during dinner
@grey4612
@grey4612 Жыл бұрын
I love your videos, genshin is so multi layered that even if you read everything you can still miss a lot of things. Without your vids most fans won't realise the lore behind genshin runs deeper than the roots of iriminsul
@prowlingmusic
@prowlingmusic Жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for [this video] for ages! Hehe. Maybe not for ages, but definitely since the quest had been released! I was so happy when I saw this update, thank you!
@lunousetrinh9819
@lunousetrinh9819 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for spending your precious time to sum up the lore. Your videos make me understand it more than reading it myself.
@leslilinion9525
@leslilinion9525 Жыл бұрын
The dendro dragon says 'the victor... while the loser must turn to ash.' that's from natlan. in the tevyat chapter story preview.
@dar8456
@dar8456 Жыл бұрын
Thank god. We were waiting patiently for a new video!
@thatdaniel224
@thatdaniel224 Жыл бұрын
18:23 When I played this story quest, this line immediately reminded me of what dainsleif said in the teyvat chapter storyline, in which he said something along the lines of "the victors shall burn bright, while the losers must turn to ash".
@ioannishussein8038
@ioannishussein8038 Жыл бұрын
Nice! We got more information from the recent Story Quest with the Dendro Archon, Nahida!
@rafirakapradana1077
@rafirakapradana1077 Жыл бұрын
hey you're back, welcome. It's always so nice to know this information, thanks
@roycejohnsolquillo
@roycejohnsolquillo Жыл бұрын
And I love hos selfless Nahida is in the Archon quest. She's willing to sacrifice herself no matter what. Glad she has the traveler and forest freinds to help her out. ❤
@lowliethxd1471
@lowliethxd1471 Жыл бұрын
Im calling it now, her selflessness will be the death of her 😭😭😭
@roycejohnsolquillo
@roycejohnsolquillo Жыл бұрын
@@lowliethxd1471 I mean, that happened a lot with her previous incarnations alreadY HAHAHAA
@kotarouinugami1745
@kotarouinugami1745 6 ай бұрын
She seems to share this outlook with all the Aranara.
@NoName-ke4nu
@NoName-ke4nu Жыл бұрын
Guys can you imagine if all the desert world quest related to Al-Akmar and Goddess of Flowers were voiced😢
@Kiyosh90
@Kiyosh90 Жыл бұрын
Great video as always bro. I was wondering if you could do one for the 3.6 world quest (Khvarena of Good and Evil)❤
@muazsarang3933
@muazsarang3933 Жыл бұрын
Every Genshin Lore nerd dies to watch the lore summaries on you channel. You do make us wait a lot for your vids, but in the end you never disappoint. Thank you❤
@arandomgenshinplayed680
@arandomgenshinplayed680 Жыл бұрын
13:08 I think what she said there has something to do with Natlan, remember the trailer? Dainsleif was like "The Victor shall burn bright, while the loser must turn to ash. When the God of War shares this secret with the traveler, it is because she has her own reasons"
@user-tx3zl5np1q
@user-tx3zl5np1q Жыл бұрын
2:05 There is something similar with Barbatos, he hears wherever the wind blows
@bloodwolf4064
@bloodwolf4064 Жыл бұрын
thank you for the video man.
@keelanc1681
@keelanc1681 Жыл бұрын
Shapeshifting itself isnt the problem if its a shift that involves something innate. It seems to be changing shape into something that isnt innately part of ones self that requires a lot of power. And id actually say that the humanoid forms are likely the forms that required power to acquire and same for youkai given they both work on logic of chinese and japanese mythology about cultivation and stuff?
@frenchrevenge6406
@frenchrevenge6406 Жыл бұрын
So they can change into humans once they have lived thro enough "human experiences" and human emotions, and the reason why changing into another species is so difficult is bc different races have different understandings, agendas and ideologies. Humans, however, are free from world-changing duties and have no "centered goal", meaning anyone can become a human if they "forget" their purpose and indulge in mortal pleasures and sufferings for long enough.
@Owlzz_
@Owlzz_ 6 ай бұрын
9:55 this is insane detail i never noticed this until i watch this video man
@shoyuramenoff
@shoyuramenoff Жыл бұрын
#21 Me bawling my eyes out when the Geoshroom we knew for 5 minutes sacrificed himself. Idk why that got me lmao
@nopalfifa
@nopalfifa Жыл бұрын
Nice one Cat🙌
@astridmustikasyamsuri6207
@astridmustikasyamsuri6207 Жыл бұрын
I think for adepti & yokai they only have 2 forms, it didn't state they can transform outside their beast & human form. Zhongli & Venti can transform freely only when they had their gnosis, which function like divine battery so they didn't have to think twice to use their power & energy. now they enjoy their human looks just fine without bothered to change form
@whitecat3448
@whitecat3448 Жыл бұрын
It's not true in Zhongli's case. He took many forms in the past and will probably change his form in the future. He's more than 6k years old so it's not a big problem for him (not to mention that his origins unknown)
@dailydee3888
@dailydee3888 Жыл бұрын
I have theory that "Thousand Winds" is the title of Anemo Dragon. Since Venti (the elemental wisp) was part of the Thousand Winds, like the elemental beings born from Apep
@pinakin67
@pinakin67 Жыл бұрын
🧠
@vergiltasev7108
@vergiltasev7108 Жыл бұрын
Do you think the connections to Istaroth don't hold much anymore?
@realimassimiliano4748
@realimassimiliano4748 Жыл бұрын
The thousand wind are just istaroth
@harryharper5358
@harryharper5358 Жыл бұрын
13:08 Is that a Natlan hint? "The rules of war are woven in the womb. The victor shall burn bright, while the losers must turn into ash." So the secret that Pyro Archon would share with the traveler could very well be related to the battle between Dragons and the Primordial One
@alexpav845
@alexpav845 Жыл бұрын
Transformation was difficult for Nahida, because she did it instantly if transform slowly enough it wouldn't take so much energy. It's like running. If you move fast, you get to your destination quickly but spent a lot of energy. If you move slowlier then you need more time to get to your destination, but wouldn't spend much energy.
@yeytot6532
@yeytot6532 Жыл бұрын
The goddess of flowers artifacts has a lore about the skyfrost nail incident from the desert tho, which hinted that Nabu Malikata and Al Ahmar planned a rebellion against the divine but it will take a sacrifice from a god in able to trigger what may happen in the future. In my understanding, what Deshret did with Goddess of flowers was entirely a part of their plan for humans to fight against the divine in the future. Meaning his incident with Apep is possibly part of their plan, what I don't know though if Rukkhadevata is also going along with it. It's possible, and even Nahida may have also no idea what it was. Note: the goddess of flowers artifacts are meant to be read backwards, meaning from right to left.
@livingthing2897
@livingthing2897 Жыл бұрын
Possibly a coincidence, but I wanna point out how similar these quotes sound: "In war, the victor would inherit the right to shape the world, while the losers must turn to ash..." -Apep "The rules of war are woven in the womb: the victors shall burn bright, while the losers must turn to ash." -Dainsleif, Chapter Storyline Preview We know VERY little about Natlan, but I wonder if this phrase is something that goes way back, beyond the God of War's beliefs.
@satishg5538
@satishg5538 Жыл бұрын
Murata - the god of war seems to be an interesting person. (One more spoiler - Dehya is from Natlan)
@shanedoesyoutube8001
@shanedoesyoutube8001 Жыл бұрын
​​​@@satishg5538 another character Honkai fans be worried for
@satishg5538
@satishg5538 Жыл бұрын
@@shanedoesyoutube8001 Himeko right
@shanedoesyoutube8001
@shanedoesyoutube8001 Жыл бұрын
@@satishg5538 Murata Himeko, yes Since her death, they have become wary of Lisa (same JP voice as Himeko), the pyro archon, then Star Rail Himeko
@j_Snow
@j_Snow Жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to have a new raiden archon quest where we have to deal with the Inazuma dragon sovereign
@Sacration
@Sacration Жыл бұрын
Hi @CatWithBlueHat, I love your video it help me catch up with the Lore time to time. U are doing a great job. I agree with most of the video but you are going all over the place to some part of it tho!!? Nahidas part of changing form but going throu time, so she basically use her power of futur her to change her current form. While for Hakushin Yae (Kitsune), Gorou (Inugami) and Kirara (Nekomata) it is just metamorphosis . They use their Youkai mystical power to modify their current form thats why we can see part of their true nature still showing. In Japanese mythology it is daid that a Youkai cannot totally change to human and something will always betray them and show their true nature (ears, tails, pow, horns, wings). This is ALSO differentes for mixed life forms such as Sucrose (canonically Mondstadt Kitsune), Tighnari (Tighnarian), Diona (Katzlein). That is again different to Morax way of changing form who is again also différentes to Adepti way of changing form. There is a multitude of way to change form, Nahida in her is just choosing the most difficult but efficient way of doing so idk where the insinuation of Yae strengh comes from. As for Rhukadevatta shrinking 3.0 to 3.2 we already knew that she shring 2 times in history. One time earlier and another one for saving the desert and the new 3.6 area confirmed us that this first time she shring was by creating the tree god to anchor the god of sweet dew to the mortal world to fight the corruption of the abyss. Again her shrinking 2 times before Nahida is a known fact. And for the relationship between Amun Al-Ahmar and Apep, we also know this from the start of Sumeru, they were friends along with Hermanubis the sages of all sages, Ibis the Grand scribe and the goat and crocodile kings. They were his vassals but she left them and secluded itself, build Court with her children deep in the desert cavern. Yes he also knew what would happen to Apep when she would ate him, it was his part of his plan. Anyway thats the only point i wanted to talk about, overall great video, again, thank you for all your work.
@Say-Mira3
@Say-Mira3 Жыл бұрын
It seems that goddess of flower is an alien just like primordial one. She is also known nabu malikata means mistress of Nabu. But Deshret never called as Nabu which means Nabu is a celestial god just like heavenly principle.
@realimassimiliano4748
@realimassimiliano4748 Жыл бұрын
She is a seele
@fabula3
@fabula3 Жыл бұрын
there wasn´t three dendro archons, "Rukkhadevata" could shrink to use too much of his power, but still being "rukkhadevata" in the case of "Nahida" the Dendro Archon didn´t just "shrink", she "clone herself" as a new being, but everyone has forgotten the existence of rukkhadevata and with it the fact that Nahida is actually "Rukhadevatha´s daughter by mitosis"
@carara07
@carara07 Жыл бұрын
I agree! It's like the previous shrink of Rukkhadevata definitely changed her size and her power also shrunk to smaller portion, but we can say like she only shrunk 75% (kind of). She got smaller but it's still her, during those several times. The one Grounded Mushroom referred to were basically normal Rukkha and then smaller Rukkha. However, with the 'creation' of Nahida, 500 years ago, she really made her as a new one, from a different Irminsul branch, then delete herself, which means she is 100% gone (from existence). It's two different things, so I still believe there were only two Dendro Archon.
@danielm5535
@danielm5535 Жыл бұрын
Are the scrolls dropped by Samachurls written about forbidden knowledge? (Those who have attempted to translate “went mad”) Could Morax be a subjugated Sovereign? When we try to ask about the Cataclysm, he says, “I signed a contract when it all began.”, meaning at the new order by the PO, not the Cataclysm. The way Apep refers to the Heavenly Principles- does that mean HP = PO?
@TheGameRuler
@TheGameRuler Жыл бұрын
This entire section of the quest has some interesting implications for everything we have seen before and may see in the future. If it's true that Celestia and the Heavenly Principals care for all life, then that means all of its actions can now be deduced. One of the biggest questions was what was the criteria for the Heavenly Principals to essentially end a civilization and the main ideas were that the Primordial was dethroned or that Celestia became tyranical or both. But now that we know the possibility of the SWC bringing large quantities of Forbiden Knowledge, which we know is connected to the Abyss or accessible from it and how that knowledge seems to harm life itself, it's possible that Celestia's hands may have been forced into doing that for the sake of Teyvat and protect life in its entirety. And I say that because now... we can explain Sal Vindagnyr (or howvever it's spell, the Dragon Spine civilization) as well as Orobashi. DragonSpine was loyal to the Celestial Gods yet it was destroyed after someone discovered something in tge Leylines. Now that we know that Forbiden Knowledge can permeate into it like with Irminsul, it's possible it was Forbiden Knowledge that was discovered and was contaminating that regions Ley line, explaining why it needed to be destroyed so it wouldn't contaminate the whole or infect several people. Aas for Orobashi having to die...we know Orobashi discovered something, but what it was heavily speculated to be "Before Sun and Moon". But remembering where Enkanomiya is, it's possible he found Forbiden Knowledge there too... and the evidence may rest within the Archon Residue. Before Orobashi, we visited two other locations where Gods died, not once we saw Archon Residue or even any form of contamination like we did in the Delusion factory. These places were Decarabian's ruins and the Salt Archon's Domain. If this is true... Celestia has been protecting Humanity for a very long time against the Abyss and Forbiden Knowledge, and seeing as one of the themes we are seeing is how Humans only see the power of the Gods and covet it and/or speculate about its grandeur... it's possible no one saw the connection and simply saw what they felt rather than what was. EDIT: It just hit me... The Fatui have a motto to free the world of Arrogant Gods and the like, acting like they are doing what they believe is necessary for "peace" or whatever, all while doing the most heinous things at times. The Abyss Order seems intent on similar ideals but more extreme. Celestia on the other hand looks downright evil but actually is forced into it rather than seemingly wanting to do it, the exact opposite of the Abyss Order and the Fatui.
@sharknode3167
@sharknode3167 Жыл бұрын
People tend to forget that Forbidden Knowledge is not from Teyvat hence does not obey its rule > How geoshroom was able to retain memories of Rukkhadevata because he knew she wouldn't remember everything since it would create a paradox (How can you remember things you did before you were born. Nahida is ONLY 500 years old unlike Rukkhadevata who was friends with the likes of Zhongli) also he did say to Nahida that he was here to fill the gap in her memories. As for Apep, did people forget what's the definition of the void ? Nothingness. If there's nothing to adapt to what's the point of adapting ? The void bends light hence time, it can bend physics as well hence space, rendering every concept living beings can come up with useless and on what does adaptability relies on ? Growth which depends on time and space (environment). I think the Forbidden Knowledge also takes on the philosophical view of an idea : an idea or a belief is more difficult to get rid of than a person or living being. It can be altered in some way but the core will always be the same. Forbidden knowledge => harming everything it touches
@realimassimiliano4748
@realimassimiliano4748 Жыл бұрын
And till the abyss exist will always exist also the forbidden knowledge
@BobYuan
@BobYuan Жыл бұрын
I believe the scenario writer just forgot the adeptis can change form easily. This quest has so many issues.They should remake it.
@albafer8245
@albafer8245 Жыл бұрын
1:14 She mentions specifically "the golden city" which we now know it is Gurabad from Sumeru. But "the black watchtower" is unknown, so possibly a future place from fontaine😮?😮
@ahmaddanisaputra3580
@ahmaddanisaputra3580 Жыл бұрын
12:46 I always believe Rukkha (mommy) used all her power in King Deshret Incident and become teen, after that in cataclysm incident she used all her power again and became child and then she creates Nahida from branch. So is that wrong?
@alexia22245
@alexia22245 Жыл бұрын
No. Your thinking maybe right. For me, first she used up a lot of her power (to help Deshret) and became a child, then she grew up again and during the cataclysm she used all her power again to fight the forbidden knowledge, becoming a child in the process. He then creates Nahida and dies 😢
@ahmaddanisaputra3580
@ahmaddanisaputra3580 Жыл бұрын
@@alexia22245 it also make sense especially if the time gap between king deshret incident and cataclysm is enough for rukkha to grew up. My brain can't take it when Cat said theres 3 rukkha
@alexia22245
@alexia22245 Жыл бұрын
@@ahmaddanisaputra3580 My brain also can't take this. For me is only one Rukkha 😭 (possibly two counting Nahida)
@nafri91
@nafri91 Жыл бұрын
i want to see king deshrett so much. he is so freaking interesting. hopefully hoyo will release his and nibu design in future..and thanks for this video, i understand so much what was happening, lol. and some plothole meant to happen when a writer include 'time can be travelled forward and backward'... i really dont like when writer tempered with time. sometimes they usually out of ideas, the only way to make new plot is for MC to change future or history.
@j00range4
@j00range4 Жыл бұрын
i just finished the quest so now im here of course
@ryogaz1210
@ryogaz1210 Жыл бұрын
19:06 If PO actually won the war against SWC and loves human, why did they tell Orobashi to kill itself or otherwise people of Enka would suffer after reading before sun and moon?
@Negolossauro
@Negolossauro Жыл бұрын
The people from Khaenri'ah knew a kind of energy that was obtained by knowledge from outside of Teyvat, and i don't remember well if it was Dahri civilization or the Skeptics who came after them, but some of those notes, diaries and pappers in the ruins says they was creating a kind of energy who is similar to the abyss power and this energy can fight against it. These two things, or at least one of them, could be somehow related to Nibelung/Second Who Came/Sinner and the power he obtained outside of Teyvat, mentioned by Apep, if we consider that the Sinner contacted the abyss order founder, many person from the abyss order is related to Khaenri'ah (it's founder itself) and that line from Dainsleaf saying "the rules of the time doesn't seem to be enough to stop him".
@guujigaming
@guujigaming Жыл бұрын
6:34 I’ve been saying this ever since I played the quest, there is something below Inazuma that we haven’t seen yet. I am very curious about what it might be!
@orang9869
@orang9869 Жыл бұрын
I think nahida wasn't just "transforming" but replicating the evolution of the fungus. That's why she's tired, but idk maybe just writing inconsistency
@inthenameofcontractlendmem983
@inthenameofcontractlendmem983 Жыл бұрын
18:27 That's almost the same as Deinsleif's line about Natlan in story preview trailer
@SoulHeartEsquivel
@SoulHeartEsquivel Жыл бұрын
Now to quote @Fusaex3 i think you are getting confused by the changed that Nahida and the Elemental life forms are talking abiut. What the Elemental life forms did to gain the fungus for was to slowly "evolve" into that shape and form. The Adaptation they kesp speaking of is basically evolution in its more simplier form, since the Elemental life forms changed their shape over time to be able to better live in the evnironment of Sumeru like how Darwins examples of the finches similar but different changes of forms they took to live the island lives they did. They beings you brought up having the power to change their form are in fact a part of their beings. The Adepti of Liyue are basically the Teyvat versions of many Chinese gods and demons who all can have a human or vaguely human form to fite better with humans but their real forms are their animal forms. This is something they gain from their many years of life cultivating power, which is something that we do to our characters as well. Gaining years of experience through magical books to spead the process while using items to break through to the next level of cultivation or ascendtion. Much like in China, Japanese yokai are not in fact human at all but are basically nautral phenomenon given physical form. Since yokai are in fact that, to find a actual yokai whos original form is a human is excedenly rare since to be considered a yokai one must very much not human. Heck, tbe only reason a Yokai would assume a human form is if they had the power and experience to do so. So in reality, Nahida and the Elemental life forms convo is true still even in for these being. They all gained the power to change human form as a side effect of their long lives. Also it should be noted that Apep's "adaptation" of forbiden knowldge is actually a bit of a red harring. They stated explicitly that in any form, Forbidden knowldge is in fact harmful to all life no matter what since its very exsitance isnt of the world if Teyvat. At best, it would be like having a metal shard lodge in your body and not removing it cuase it would be far to dangerous to do so. Your body would grow to have it inside and maybe even be less sensitive but at the end of the day thats still a piece of metal in your body. It will slowly poison you over time even with proper tretment to help you survive. And the longer it stayes in your body the harder it will be to get it out since your body will always be actively fighting to keep it contained. Which brings me to why Apep didnt just shrink to close the void. That kind of change would require immense amount of time an energy to do. Remember that the Forbidden knowldge was not originally part of the body, therefore that body of Apep was in no way actually actively making it apart of itself but was in fact working hard to keep it contain in the body and keep it from harming the rest of the body. Which it failed to due considering that all the damage it did to Apep's mind and the Elementals that inhabitied the dragon's body. With it gone, no body can be able to simply quickly change back to what it would do nomally since for Ages the body has been working on keeping that area od the body "contained" to the point that even with it gone the body would have exsauted all its energy into keeping it contained that it cant simply changes gears fast enough to fill the whole back in. All the while the missing hole itself is now doing more damage to the body since a hole in the body is significatly more dangerous then a foreign object since all kinds of important things will fall through it the body will simply pull all the stops to patch it up, taking other valuable energy resources from their equaly important places in order ro seal up the hole quickly to lessen any more losses. They say that the Apep is tired, even the most adaptable life cant do anything if they are to tired to do anything about it. Growth takes time and energy. Therefore, they where both right. Just simply about different things. The Geoshroom about Apep being to tired from containing Forbidden Knowldge and Nahida with Apep's "adaptability". I wouldnt say King Deshret had planned to use himself to kill Apep but was originally gonna use it himself to finish off Apep. But when he eventually became overwhelmed by the power of Forbidden Knowldge, in the end he still use it in a attempt to kill Apep. All in all, this video is very informative and it really made me think about how this whole story quest really put forward that this game is very much a chinese game. Cultivation is the act of accumulating oower over time to become stronger, longer living, and eventually into a god/ascended beings.
@wilburforce8046
@wilburforce8046 Жыл бұрын
For the transformations every else is still swapping into another version of themselves where as Nahida is becoming a whole new entity. It’s different,
@RahmatHazli
@RahmatHazli Жыл бұрын
17:10 but Nibelung mention in Honkai Impact 3rd an outfit for Durandal
@SefirZero
@SefirZero Жыл бұрын
So, using that much power at the time of the Cataclysm (The tree, the fighting, the flame), that would definitely explain the size of Rukkhadevata when we reached Irminsul to delete her memory and the Forbidden Knowledge. She was almost wholly expended before dying.
@GipsyD29
@GipsyD29 Жыл бұрын
Nabu Malikata is just this plot device and hole at the same time. She's an all-knowing, all-seeing prophet. Whenever something weird happens in Sumeru history, you can probably trace it back to Nabu, directly or indirectly.
@ZeroEdgeDaniel
@ZeroEdgeDaniel Жыл бұрын
16:27 Paimon was rude? If anyone told me that they would make fun of me after I died, I would have said something much worse
@ykiigor
@ykiigor Жыл бұрын
Maybe shroom can mention Rukkhadevata because he become pure energy and some part of this energy was from traveller. We bypassed Teyvat rules before in Wanderer story with traveller help as well.
@frenchrevenge6406
@frenchrevenge6406 Жыл бұрын
4:39 I have played this game since 1.5 and this is the first time I hear about someone or something being sealed beneath inazuma. After Watatsumi island got released, and then Enkanomiya, I thought that all mentions of seals or whatever were always related Enkanomiya and the vishaps. Guess we have to reread the texts from back then with all the knowledge we currently have.
@keitokarl
@keitokarl Жыл бұрын
imagine the divine tree, where akademiya is on, is the first dendro archon
@Akhilaksh99
@Akhilaksh99 Жыл бұрын
Wow that would be really cool but somehow unlikely
@riosw
@riosw Жыл бұрын
You should open a class in Vahumana Darshan
@_mirary_
@_mirary_ Жыл бұрын
Just a theory but maybe Inazuma's dragon is actually Orobashi ? 🤔 Yk the snake thingy with a big skull at the Serpent's Head, he used to be a god and everything before he got killed by the Shogun
@tomasgonzalez768
@tomasgonzalez768 Жыл бұрын
15:30 i am surprised at the level of detail of this.
@nevanV12
@nevanV12 Жыл бұрын
the bgm for the 2 minutes of this video makes me regret watching this home alone at 2 AM
@Sonali6923
@Sonali6923 Жыл бұрын
I have just one thing on my mind, it’s a reference from the Khvarena world quest, there’s a mention of the sinner originating from Khaenri’ah why can’t the God we spoke to in Abyss in the Traveller’s Archon quest be the same sinner, I’m guessing Rhinedottir.
@IAmDAN004
@IAmDAN004 Жыл бұрын
11:16 "All of this happened AFTER she became small when she helped Deshret's civilization" 1000+ years before the cataclysm, you mean? That's definitely enough time for Rukkhadevata to grow big again, only to shrink herself again in the cataclysm to do all those feats she did
@putudewangga8425
@putudewangga8425 Жыл бұрын
If you did this quest before aranara ones (like I did, since I don't know which one is that), Nahida will only mention them as "Friends that's really shy around new people".
@moewvi
@moewvi Жыл бұрын
i feel like Murata is related to Nibelung in the teyvat storyline video we hear “the losers must turn to ash” 15:14 we hear that again
@komgoo4974
@komgoo4974 Жыл бұрын
I think when they meant that transforming is hard is that transforming is difficult if it’s your first time/have never learned it before.
@DurandalOfAegis
@DurandalOfAegis Жыл бұрын
I just want to say thank you. These lore videos, with this specific format keep me from leaving Genshin. I love the game but often feel like the story is not moving forwards but at least, I get to understand better how the world functions through these videos. Again, it's super helpful to me and I'm sure you help a ton of players through your dedication. May you win all your 50/50s my friend.
@No-cc1fq
@No-cc1fq Жыл бұрын
15:15 damn its blow my mind
@Togno94
@Togno94 Жыл бұрын
There is an actually chance that the actual Hydro Archon is the Hydro Crown Dragon reincarnated? I read that on the wiki about the Sovreignity so i was curious. And I , maybe, think that Fontaine is : or creating life form o the Oceanids mimicry ability evolved a lot. I read the documents in the Varukasha quest line soooo...dunno I am totally wrong and I spund like a madman like always
@reyesjunior0402
@reyesjunior0402 Жыл бұрын
Nahida Second Story Quest and the artifacts description suggest that the Primordial One defeated the Second Who Came, then landed the Skyfrost Nails to purge the Forbidden Knowledge. But somehow it exterminated the first civilization without getting rid of Forbidden Knowledge. If that's what happened I wonder what Phanes felt after launching those nukes since they are or were said to love human
@kamveng453
@kamveng453 Жыл бұрын
Thats the part where it gets tricky bcause *Before Sun & Moon’ and the artifacts lore contradicts each other about Phanes’ drastic personality change after the Primordial war, for what we know history could have been tampered by Irminsul just like how someone or something might’ve tampered with the abyss twin’s records. Or? the Second Throne brought forth the forbidden knowledge/abyssal power unto teyvat, corrupted the Primordial one, eventually Phanes falls to insanity, seals the abyssal power below teyvat, and dropping down nail nukes to prevent the abyss from leaking furthermore. The abyssal corruption and insanity could be the reason why Phanes exiled the seelies from celestia and abandoned Enkonomiya and eventually destroying ancient civilizations built around the abyss-corrupted Irminsul branches, (i.e the frostbearing tree in Dragonspine).
@reyesjunior0402
@reyesjunior0402 Жыл бұрын
@@kamveng453 altering the history doesn't make sense. If the purpose was to erase the existence of Primordial one and the first civilization, wouldn't erasing the entire history makes more sense?
@paja4373
@paja4373 Жыл бұрын
The book already talk about that in game before nahida story quest
@bossofdeath7862
@bossofdeath7862 Жыл бұрын
7:49 "the most adapdable being in the world" not "the all adaptable being" + the dendro dragon is a creature from teyvat aka a native of it while the forbidden knowledge is something from out of teyvat. It might have adapted to the forbidden knowledge but it still a native of this world and can't suppress all effects of it. Nahida is probably mentionning how she believed it was the dendro dragon who was the best at adaptation until now. The most adaptable being at the moment is the traveler. 9:01 If it took 40 years for a god and his 4 shades to win the war against 7 dragon, that means the Primordial wasn't so powerful as it may seems. The war must have been exhausting for both sides and looking for a favorable peace treaty without having to kill all the dragons would have been beneficial. 19:12 So that's how Deshret sacrified himself to save the desert people. Which means the Sinner is unlikely to be him.
@Zeke1460
@Zeke1460 Жыл бұрын
You’re wrong about Rukkha. She was the same person up till her death in the cataclysm. She was always the same dendro archon till she died. There have only been 2. Deshret refused the gnosis, so Rukkha later accepted it. That was during the archon war between 4 and 2 thousand years ago. Rukkha was friends with deshret long before that, as he wrote her name in the eternal oasis which he built after the goddess of flowers sacrificed herself by bringing forth abyssal knowledge and being crushed by a celestial nail. That was around the start of the archon war, since Deshret had already refused the gnosis. Rukkhadevatta was doing the same thing as Nahida, using her power to ridiculous levels in exchange for shrinking and reverting to younger ages. But the shrunken form was her teenage form from after she sealed deshret. She didn’t lose all her memories when shrinking, she just reverted to a younger body. She was still the same person.
@IAmDAN004
@IAmDAN004 Жыл бұрын
14:40 Maybe it's the 2nd who Came who gave Nibelung that dark power from outside this world?
@watchingandvibing
@watchingandvibing Жыл бұрын
1:47 If I'm not mistaken, the floating hydro fungus and Nahida referring to the elimination of all "forbidden knowledge" is explained? Like in the archon quest it mentioned the withering, which is a byproduct of forbidden knowledge, the existing withering zones will still stay afterwards, but once it's cleansed it should be gone. We can infer that the dark mud in the chasm will still stay (and maybe even increase) if we don't cleanse it from the source (my guess is that the Lumenstone Adjuvant gadget doesn't actually cleanse it completely but only removes it for a moment, and we alone cannot cleanse it) I think by "forbidden knowledge is no more" they mean that the main source of it is gone, maybe? of course, I may be wrong, but that's what I thought of
@Azanitt
@Azanitt Жыл бұрын
I mean without gnosis all archons have is their "raw" powers. With that, Nahida is just too young to have enough energy to bend time. But at the same time Yae is like 500 years old heraelf, for which I don't have an explanation 😔 But again, I never saw Yae transform in the game, so maybe she actually can't turn into a kitsune that easily
@dropmelon
@dropmelon Жыл бұрын
We already have shapeshifting youkai NPCs that can turn back and forth between their real form and human form quite easily so Yae should have no difficulties turning into a kitsune when she feels like it. More likely answer is since Nahida never shapeshift before, she hasn’t gotten the hang of it. That’s why she’s tired.
@givandwi4479
@givandwi4479 Жыл бұрын
What does traveller mean by "we cant go through that again" to nahida when she try to purge the dark mud effect on geoshroom?
@Evitzeoshowerthoughts
@Evitzeoshowerthoughts Жыл бұрын
Yeah I don't think teenager rukkha was a different person like nahida is, though it's definitely why the statue is small, because for what I know, deshret's death was during the archon war and rukkha shrunk during his death. So the statues were depicting the dendro archon of the time, teen rukkha. also the dragon king "resurrected" right? Apep said something along the lines of "when the dragon king returned, the world had changed", so him returning was the second who came and shook the heavens, but failed again and turned into the sinner. My theory at least
@DavidJohnson-ib1dh
@DavidJohnson-ib1dh Жыл бұрын
If Deshret was alive so late in the timeline his kingdom would have been using Mora instead of minting their own coins. He died a loooooong time ago. Rukkhadevata was probably aware that there had been a samsara prior to her own, though perhaps the memory of that samsara in detail was not available to her. Her memory ghost talked about Nahida being herself in the new samsara, which suggests Rukkhadevata knew about the samsaras and the only way that could be true is by her own prior experience. Nahida is not yet aware of this since Traveler insists on hiding it for fear that such knowledge could provoke Forbidden Knowledge. As for if that is true it's hard to say.
@IAmDAN004
@IAmDAN004 Жыл бұрын
7:18 At the time I thought that it was less of a "prophecy" and more of a "promise" I.e if Rukkhadevata promised the elemental lifeforms that she would bring them home after everything's over, then said lifeforms would take it as a prophecy (this is common in many religions)
@junyew1813
@junyew1813 Жыл бұрын
As for the changing forms part, the shroom said that it requires the power of time. But what if the other characters did not change over time, but over space? Quite a stretch but ye...
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