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I was just about to say this! No rule change can curtail corruption at its finest.

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They still happening again today.

Good idea! Thanks for sharing!

Absolutely!

Nah.

@@Lvlaple4Ever she was

Seen this over and over ! Ordinals system was completely unfair !

Words to live by!

Except Adelina was kind of rude to Yuna. And leaving when Yuna began to speak in interview room right after she won the gold medal? It didn’t help her case at all. And when she said she could have a comeback and take over again? Yikes, we don’t like to see that compared to Yuna.

@@sebastianenjcb193 It is true that Sotnikova did not handle the situation very maturely. I was quite taken aback when she left that interview.

The Russian pair skaters at least showed some class and integrity. Sotnikova showed none.

Well at least Sotnikova should have given some respect to Yuna, at the press conference when it was Yuna's time for interview she just walked out without even saying why she is leaving. She's rude.

I am pleased to inform you that after reviewing your application for honourary Canadian citizenship we have decided to grant it to you and bestow upon you all benefits and privileges afforded therewith to persons possessing the aforementioned title as favoured neighbour. Congratulations friend.

Thanks! Aye aye! There’s more coming!

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That was a great documentary!

Absolutely!

If you can’t pull off a harder routine maybe you should stick to junior level

@@pharmd86 they just had one flaw in the whole routine! :))

The Netflix documentary made it look like about 2 or 3

@@pharmd86 Well there was only Anton's step out

True. Manley was the better skater.

@@mathpro1797 The Ladies Figure Skating competition consists of the Compulsory Figures, Short Program, and Free Skate. At the time of the 1988 Winter Olympic Games, Compulsory Figures were worth 30% of the total score, Short Program only 20%, and Free Skate 50%. Manley did rank 1 on the Free Skate, but she ranked 4 below Witt on the Compulsory Figures and ranked 3 below Witt on the Short Program. So Manley's Total Factored Placement was 4.6 and Witt's TFP was 4.2. *Rank Name CF SP FS TFP* 1 Katarina Witt 3 1 2 4.2 2 Elizabeth Manley 4 3 1 4.6 3 Debi Thomas 2 2 4 6 4 Jill Trenary 5 6 5 10.4 5 Midori Ito 10 4 3 10.6 If Manley were to have ranked 2 on the Short Program, she would have tied in the TFP with Witt, but her better placement in the Free Skate would have been the tie breaker. If Manley were to have ranked 3 in the CF and Witt were to have ranked 4, Manley would have won gold.

@@RaymondHng If Witt and Manley had both had the same TFP total they both would not have won the gold. Manley would have won the gold and Witt the silver because in the event of a tie the victory went to whoever came highest in the free skate.

@@npe1 Oh yes. The Free Skate placement would have been the tie breaker in the event of a tie in the Total Factored Placement. The statement is corrected.

the russians were robbed they had to share their gold medals that they're truly deserved

@@phuongnguyen-mq1dd LMAO. Life sucks sometimes doesn't it.

​@@phuongnguyen-mq1dd But, let me guess, Yuna was robbed? Yuna and Hanyu are definitely the best at something: having the most annoying fans that know nothing about figure skating and stan them like they're k-pop artists or something.

@@chriss1686 I gotta agree on this. Hanyu has a lot of annoying fans that don’t actually understand figure skating. However, they didn’t cry for gold medals like Salé/ Pelltier did

@@chriss1686 Yuna was rubbed. I’m not a Yuna fan, I’m actually Russian. Adelina had a disguising flutz, a lot of mistakes in her jumps and overall a messy program, yet she wasn’t called out

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Could it be the other way around? How could the canadians surpass the chinese when in fact the chinese had more speed, power, not to mention transitions and the canadians, jamie smiling... Lol.. So whos the corrupt now? The russians? Well they were always on top, covering all the criteria i mentioned not to mention their elegance..

We would if we could, but what we have is what we have. Thanks for watching though!

@@CBCSports Because last year you shared with us HD version of their 2007 and 2008 WC FDs, and we are very grateful for that. Some of these programs above are from the same seasons, we thought you would and could share more with us. But thank you for the reply !

Not only Russia. I believe in 2002 Russians should take the gold in pairs. They had harder programs, better quality, basics, better edges, flow etc. Making mistakes not always means losing in figure skating. Difficulty of elements, quality of execution and artistry matters too. They definitely won SP. Long might be more questionable but overall I would put them first anyway. They didn't need any help from the judges. 2014 ladies event is a completely different story. Adelina didn't deserve gold there.

​@@mariabe1568 That's the unfortunate part of corruption; it lessens what the athlete actually accomplished. You think just anybody can bribe a figure skating judge to make them a gold medalist? Obviously not, they are still incredibly skilled. Being beaten in 4 of the last 5 meetings though, obviously Russian officials felt pair did need an illegal advantage, and they certainly didn't skate a clean program. I never did like the 6.0 system, especially the "artistry" portion, as it was most routinely used to inflate scores and fix positions. But in 2014, what might have been Sotnikova winning 3rd thanks to technical bonuses was a 6-point berth between her and Kim which made the inflated voting so incredibly obvious (plus the aftermath). Thing is, Americans, French and particularly Russians have been veryguilty of politicizing and rigging the sport, and more often than not Canadians are the victim (perennial silver medalists) as we have been competitive for a fairly long time. Previous skating powers like Austria and Sweden have basically fallen off the map, and others such as China, Japan and Korea didn't really start to get competitive until the late 90s/early 2000s. Sometimes for Canada it's a legitimate choke, but too often it's skewed judging. I was honestly stunned when Virtue/Moir didn't lose to the French pair in 2018 despite having the superior program.

@@chriss1686 VM should win in 2018 by far but also in 2014 imo. I don't really agree that Canadians are always the victims though. It's still powerful federation and their skaters are more priviliged than most (representing smaller feds). Most people remember patrick chan and some of his dubious victories and scores (even though he was an exellent skater and deserved many of his accomplishments). There was even a term 'chanflation' because of how he was judged. On the other hand it's peak hypocrisy that his scores were called out by people associated with us or rus feds.

@@mariabe1568 Hrm, I guess when considering small nations, yes, Skate Canada is quite a strong organization. But you should look it up. In my lifetime I remember Manly, Orser, Stojko, S/P and V/M off the top of my head. It's also not that unreasonable considering after Russia and United States, we've both medalled the most times (disproportionately large silver and bronze count, just like USSR/Russia's disproportionate gold and silver count) and have participated 24 times, among the highest. So it stands to reason that Canada would routinely be the ones getting screwed out of medals. Can't be proven though, obviously, but I think with a bit of research you'd probably be convinced too.

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The Canadians skate was flawless, the Russians skate had so many holes in it I thought it was Swiss cheese, they did not have a clean skate. The video shows both

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@@avholland holes?

@@annaliese9453 at 1:47 they almost fall, and another time she does.. how is that a clean slate?

@@avholland who said it was a clean skate because I never said that I'm saying that holes are a weird word to describe their skating. Elena has a much better landing position and leg extension than Jamie who kicks her leg up sloppy and pitches forward so that's pretty funny that you say that 🤣

Way!

@@CBCSports Awesome!

After the Canadian pair was given the gold medal, a Chinese pair, which won the Bronze in the first place, kept it; no one officially had the Silver.

@@cowciumchloride5702 The Chinese pair who were awarded the bronze in 2002 were Shen Xue (申雪) and Zhao Hongbo (趙宏博).

their routine were much more difficult than the canadians and they also did a whole new routine, bad luck for them i guess

@@phuongnguyen-mq1dd Russians were also way more artistic, better edges, flow, smooth skating:)

I feel sorry for Canadians. I'm sure it didn't feel good when they received the second gold olympic medals.

Really, they made 2 big mistake. How does an imperfect routine beat a perfect routine? 🤡🤡🤡

@@mariabe1568 smooth, except for the mistake they made 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 those 2 landings were as smooth as sandpaper 😂😂😂

huh? Alina won gold

@@morgan1076 Hell no! It was Kaetlyn Osmond!

@@bryanyancy4587 not sure what olympics you're watching but Alina took gold and Evegnia took silver

Zagitova won the gold in Pyeongchang. What on earth are you talking about?

Wait, there are people outside of Canada?

@@CBCSports Good one ;) I'm in Canada actually. Just think the coverage of this at the time and the continued narrative of "being robbed by judging" was extremely biased and one-sided.

Fair enough! That's probably why when it comes to the reporting, the only opinions voiced outside of Canada aren't strictly journalistic. Also, you'd be hard-pressed not to feel a nationalistic streak when it comes to sports reporting, especially when it comes to the Olympics.

I'm American and remember being shocked the Russians got the nod over Team Canada. It's nice David pointed out the Russian skaters themselves did nothing wrong. Great sportsmanship!

@@CBCSports What do you mean by opinions outside of Canada not being strictly journalistic? I am Canadian & know under CoP, the Russians definitely would have won. And I think they deserved the win in 2002 too - Salé and Pelletier were great but skated cleanly with a much easier program.

I dont think its fixed. The media is making it look like its fixed with their bias in toe. Search the real result of the event with points. The russians were ahead of the canadians in artistry, skills, chereography, speed, and evrything in between. Canadians? What are they good at? Drama? Cheating? Politicising?

Is/Was the rule about outfits having to be "modest and dignified" still in place? The Canadians should have had a 0.2 deduction on that alone.

@@user-gf3wn1ne9n No. She was not wearing a G string. That was a fully clothed bodice under the sheer outer layer.

Yes the Canadians should have been stripped of their fake medals that they do not deserve!

It's definitely a sport. an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment. Does hours of practice involving physical exertion ✓ having a lot of skills✓ compete vs others ✓ for entertainment✓ how is it not a sport than?

@@qc__deak136 sure, it has a lot of components that you would think make it a sport.. but its missing one crucial factor, violence. it needs more violoence. maybe implement skates with knives on? or lasers. or go to australia in the winter, if you fall through the ice you will get eaten by sharks.

@@woodstocknun it can be violent, just like any other sport. Swimming is definitely a sport and they stay in their own lanes

@@qc__deak136 The reasons you've provided are not why figure-skating is a sport. Sports are sports because of their formats and the format of an artistic-sport is having a code of points, standardised scoring system and compulsory/technical/composition (the jargon varies from sport to sport) requirements to showcase in each exercise (the objective aspect). If you remove so much as one of those three components you no longer have a sport but (competitive) physical activity. This is why competitive dance is not a sport, but dancesport is. Competitive dance has none of the above, dancesport has all them. Similarly It's also why up until recently cheerleading was not a sport, but the as per it's Olympic bid, the ICU have since adopted said format. Hours of practice involving physical exertion is not what makes a sport because if that were the case then a sport would only be considered one once it becomes _difficult enough;_ which is not true. Whether it is an under 5s football match, a recreational game between friends in the park or the World Cup a sport is *ALWAYS* a sport. Also sports are not solely for the purpose of entertainment; their primary purpose is competition. if you were to invent a new sport but it was only participated in by yourself and your network for your own enjoyment, not the public's, for as long as it met the necessary criteria then it would still be a sport.

@@MD-722 true great arguments