8:38 yes, a guide would be so cool! We would totally watch it. Just be warned that Seventeen's latest updated guide on youtube is called SUPER LONG SEVENTEEN GUIDE 2023 and in total is over like 2 hours long! 😂 There's actually some Seventeen members that are interested in videography/editing. I'm pretty sure it comes up on the guide. :D

I know Japanese releases have a higher chance of getting removed, but even if you just wanted to check it out on your own i highly recommend their MV ‘Falling Flower’. Probably the prettiest MV of there’s by far, and just the sets and songs are everything to me. And If you end up wanting to check out the dance practice to falling flower too, its one of their most iconic choreographies in my opinion. I just think even if not for KZfaq, you would enjoy it on your own !! Thank you for showing them love !!!

Yes, watching the guides are helpful. You definitely should watch them. Seventeens choreo also is amazing

1:24 The opening shot contrasts smoke with an inlaid image of Seventeen, digitally manipulated to look like a mirage. Part of Wonwoo‘s set is made of light tubes attached to a circular metal frame, resembling the sun. Silver air conditioning ducts are neatly threaded together like a nest of worms, set against a backdrop with a faint glow of an aurora cast over the silhouette of an ancient forest. 1:38 The significance of these aesthetic choices may not be clear upon first viewing, but their emotional effect is immediate. By juxtaposing the natural against the manmade, while also melding the two together, the MV creates a sense of defamiliarisation. The effect is puzzling and unsettling. We don’t expect to see rose petals cling-wrapped to Hoshi‘s arm, or to see The8 wearing an elegant, floral-printed coat while dancing in an industrial set. A closer look at the images in the MV, paired with an understanding of the song’s lyrics, reveals the fears that these symbolic elements represent. The most critical of these is the fear of time running out. “Although I know there’s no such thing as forever / I can’t end [this],” Joshua sings; in the industrial set, a large timer counts down the seconds. In Wonwoo’s set, the circle of light tubes light up in a clockwise direction, almost like the hands of a clock that’s moving too fast. 8:14 The key to contextualising this fear lies in Dino‘s set: a smouldering stage with a row of unplugged microphones suspended overhead. It’s no coincidence that there are 12 mics here: their presence implies the absence of the other members. The skewed backdrop and smoke rising from the stage, signs of destruction and ruin, suggest that this set symbolises the end of Seventeen’s time as a group. Put together with the images of time running out, Seventeen’s fear of their idol career ending surfaces. 13:06 In light of this, the significance of other images begins to emerge. The wrecked car points to a metaphorical death-the end of Seventeen’s time as a group and as idols. The roses that surround Jeonghan capture their passion as performers, but also the transience of their beauty, for flowers must wilt. The cling wrap that binds roses to Hoshi’s arm appears as a desperate attempt to preserve the flowers. Yet this effort proves futile, as the same image is later framed by a shot of falling flowers. In addition, issues tied to self-perception and self-esteem are hinted at through the repeated use of shards of a broken mirror. Seungkwan holds up a fragment to reveal an incomplete-and hence distorted-view of himself. The shards are strewn between the red roses that Jeonghan lies next to, and they form DK’s aforementioned mask. A perfect image of Jun vanishes in the blink of an eye, replaced by a view of him that’s partially veiled by long strips of shiny streamers. 13:16 In one of the eeriest and memorable scenes of the MV, Jeonghan appears dressed in full white, washed out by blinding white lights. The efforts to make him look attractive-blue contact lenses, a smear of red lipstick, a flash of red lighting common in K-pop MVs-only make him appear less human, and more ghostly and frightening. This hints at the fine line that Seventeen, as idols, tread between looking appealing and being so heavily made-up that they become unrecognisable. The MV paints a striking picture of the deep-seated fears that Seventeen harbour as idols, but it has more to offer. It’s not just a visual collection of Seventeen’s fears, but also a dramatisation of the moment they confront these fears. The first clue to this narrative lies in the most puzzling image of the MV: the stag beetle. 2:29 In Greek mythology, the stag beetle is the metamorphosis of Poseidon’s grandson, Cerambus, who was a talented musician. After Cerambus forsook the kindness of nymphs who were enraptured by his music, they turned him into a stag beetle, and let his livestock disappear into an oncoming snowstorm. In “Poison: Fear”, a match cut between the stag beetle and Joshua sets up a connection between them. Snow is present in several of S.Coups’ scenes, an element that bears no apparent connection to the rest of the images in the MV, except for the fact that it’s also a natural image. The connection to the myth is strengthened by the fact that Seventeen are musicians, making the nymphs in the story their fans, whom they are in danger of taking for granted. By establishing the connection to the Cerambus myth early on, the MV paves the way for the rest of the story to unfold. Losing the support of fans is any idol’s fast lane towards the end of their career, and so the outpouring of fears discussed earlier makes sense. But the myth ends with no act of reconciliation on Cerambus’ part, and so “Poison: Fear” borrows from Dead Poets Society. The scene referenced in the introduction depicts a student confronting his fear of his own inadequacy with the help of his teacher. Seventeen’s Mr. Keating is S.Coups, and their Todd Anderson is Woozi. It’s apt that their leader represents the braver part of themselves, while the self-producing group’s songwriter stands for their artistic fears. Across the MV, S.Coups appears in each of the sets, looking at them and registering the fears they represent. As the countdown timer hits zero, S.Coups and Woozi face each other; Seventeen are ready to confront their fears. Whether they overcome these fears successfully is secondary. They’ve already taken the first, hardest step, to look their fear in the eye. Ps. I understood it myself 6/10

guides are very much essential for seventeen cause you can appreciate them more, the long seventeen guide is a must !!!

fear has to be my favorite song from seventeen!! the lyrics, the mv, the choreo, the styling, and just the song itself is SO good. i’m so glad you enjoyed the mv 🫶🏽

you should totally get to know the members, some of them are into video editing and photography. Mingyu, for example, he directed and edited the mv for 'snap shoot', you should check it out!

You should check Clap by SVT as well. Its very upbeat and has so many cool editing. I think you'll enjoy it. And I'll love a guide reaction from you for SVT. Super long seventeen guide 2023 would be a great albeit long video. You can check that. Looking forward to the dance practice reactions as well 😊😊

seventeen choreographies are amazing, you should definitely watch

the korean title for this song is actually "poison" so yes there's some imagery in the choreo of drinking poison! also yes, i'd love for you to react to a guide! highly highly recommend the super long guide to seventeen by caratline17. yes, it's long, but it's the most up to date, accurate, and comprehensive svt guide there is. it's also split into several parts if it's easier to react in smaller chunks :3 as for music videos, i hope you can react to seventeen's "fallin' flower"! probably considered by the fandom to be the prettiest svt mv

If you want to learn about 17, then the ‘super long guide’ is the one you want. Do it in parts if need be.

You should definitely check out their "Don't Wanna Cry" dance practice. The choreo is unbelievable!

I'm ARMY and recently I'm appreciating more and more Seventeen's artistry and music. They're so talented and hard working, they write and produce their songs, they're so humble and they genuinely love each others. They're also amazing entertainers, I wish I had known them before but now I support the two best groups in k-pop: BTS and SEVENTEEN! I don't care about fanwars, I support the two best groups and I'm happy like this 💜🩷🩵

The "super" choreography video is sick! I'd love to see you reacting to that video. Also watching guides about seventeen also sounds cool. I wanna see your reaction when you get to know more about them :) Edit: all the dance practice videos of seventeen are perfect. I'm sure you'll love them

Top-tier SEVENTEEN M/V

BOYYYYY YESSS I NEEDED A SVT REACTIONN!!!! watch some guides i hope u will love them!!

Thank you so much for the reaction, hope you get better soon! Watching the dance practices for seventeen is just so fun, I'm sure you'll like it. About the guides, it's definitely a good idea, just be aware that, especially for svt, the guides can be really long. I feel like it's ok to not be so into the song, Fear is a fav of the fandom because we rarely get to see this side of the group, but the concept is not for everyone and that's fine. In the topic of suggestions, I think you would like Darl+ing (I could be wrong), it's a full english song that just has a really cool vibe. As for MVs I wish you'd react to, there's Cheers (it's a leaders' comeback so only Scoups, Hoshi and Woozi) and Fighting (it's BSS, a sub-unit of svt, they're the funniest members so the song is very upbeat). Again, thank you for the reaction and for all the love you're showing to svt, also sorry for the long comment 😅

I would suggest you to watch the Super Long Seventeen Guide by Caratline17.

Fear is one of my favorite SVT songs. but i also tend to like darker toned songs lol

I'm so excited for the seventeen choreography video

dude....yeahhh u should do a guide of seventeen!!!! it will be helpful to u know svt more!

Yes, you should make content to get to know Seventeen members, it would be great.

10:29 I never noticed that there is Jun's poster 😂

Lovee your seventeen reactions!! All of seventeen's choreography videos are all so amazing... I recommend their Super, Dont Wanna Cry and Ready to Love dance practices! I also would love to see a reaction to their Darl+ing music video, I think the video is edited super well and the mv is extremely creative and tells a really interesting story.

Always loved your SVT reactions! Definitely looking forward to that SVT dance practices and for the guide I believe the most comprehensive one would be from "caratline17" - "SUPER LONG SEVENTEEN GUIDE 2023" it has 4 parts (because u know its SVT and they have sub units). Anw, get well soon! 🙏❤

fear is soooooooo underrated its huuurts me

please more seventeen content

You should definitely react to “Hot”, just incredible from an editors perspective

I'm really glad to hear that you will do a 'helpful guide for SEVENTEEN' but it might be a bit long one bc they have a lot of members and we would totally watch it!!

10:54 I actually thought same as you. But I liked this song after listening repeatedly and I'm obsessed with this now 😅

YOU DEFINITELY SHOULD WATCH SEVENTEEN'S CHOREO BCS THEY ARE SO SATISFYING

it’s fine that u didn’t like this song that much. as a carat, this song grew on me before i got obsessed so maybe it’ll happen for u too. as woozi himself said, this song was ahead of its time. but either way svt appreciation is always appreciated!

I really enjoy watching your videos because although I have no intentions of trying out video editing I like to have even a vague idea of how are things done to achieve the visual impact these videos have, and since I'm a Seventeen fan I appreciate your reactions to their videos a lot. From them and thinking about interesting editing I'd recommend Clap, Home;run, Darl+ing, Hit and japanese releases Fallin' flower, Ima -Even if the world end tomorrow- and Hitori janai, and from their solo/unit works definitely Dino's Wait, Jun's Psycho, BSS' Fighting and Hoshi's Spider About the guide, I'd for sure watch your reaction, the most recommended guide for Seventeen is carat17's Superlong guide to Seventeen, I like it so much that I've seen several full reaction videos, hours and hours poured into that! It's always fun to watch how people take in all that info.

Yes, please do a reaction to guides for seventeen. It will be really of help to you if you want to know every members. We'll be waiting for that😊 thank you for watching seventeen videos 🩷

seeing this mv once again, i can see some similar settings and stuffs from Hot and Darl+ing

Omggg yess!!! Please react to Super Long Guide To Seventeen, im sure you gonna love it!

im glad a youtuber noted everything a fan that watched this mv a 1000 times (me) noted too you're awesome mannnnn

yes pls!! i would definately watch you react to a seventeen guide, that would be awesome!

Personally i love this song

9:08 don't know about others, but i like watching helpful guide reactions with Seventeen 😅

You should try the 'seventeen super long guide'. As the name says, it's super long, but also really helpful

Carats (and fans in general) love watching guide reactions!!!! But carats definetly prefer one out of all of them. Because there are 13 members to put them in an hour long video that they normaly do for 5 members is too little for our kings so one carat made the ulimate seventeen guide that get's updated EVERY YEAR! So it's always up to date! It's the super long seventeen guide and is split into 4 parts. #1 general infos about seventeen before getting into the members (15min) #2 Hip Hop Team Members (1h) #3 Performance Team Members (1h) #4 Vocal Team Members (1h + 15min because there's one member more + epilog) You can watch it in full half thirds or forths but I would recommend putting #1 and #2 together because you don't really have to pause to read like in other guides so the 15 min really fly by (not like I can remember but other reacters say that and often just say whatever and watch part 2 right after lol so yeah

yeahh you can do the reaction of guide seventeen , we gonna wait for it ^^

Its okay if you didn’t like the song! Fear took a few listens to grew on me as well but please react to their guide vids and dance practice!

I would really recommend ima-even if the world ends tomorrow and home;run

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOU REACT TO SEVENTEEN SUPER LONG GUIDE (warning: it's actually super long, I'm a ADHD friend and i watch it on 6 parts hahahahahah)

I wouldn't mind you reacting to a guide. For recommendations of videos, dance pratices and for Patreon: japanese releases and SVT variety program here on KZfaq called Going Seventeen

pls react to super long guide to seventeen it's super helpful even if it's long

Thank you for reaction! Looking forward to the guide!

8:44 PLS DO WE'D LOVE IT SO MUCHHH FOR YOU TO GET TO KNOW THEM BETTER!

pls watch svt's very long guide its got alot of info on each member, its kinda long because of the amount of members

Noo!!! I love watching guide's 😍😍 Stray Kids 2024 please and Seventeen 🥺 🙏 I love your reactions, you really care

You should watch the seventeen guide 100%

sooo good thanks for the reaction 🎉

Please react to super, _world, 24 hour, dont wanna cry and fearless dance practice!! 🥺

I really like to recommend so many songs of svt as im huge fan of them like all of their songs is just banger and bop. They've never created flop songs. So the i would highly suggests are 1. Ready to love 2. Crazy in love 3. Falling flower 4. Clap 5. Hit 6. Don Quixote 7. Cheers ( This song consisting 3 leaders of svt group Scoups who is mainly the leadsr of the group and as well as leader of hiphop unit and then for performance unit is hoshi and for vocal is woozi . Overall 3 leaders) 8. Light a flame ( It's 96liner song) 9. Getting closer (most hardest choreography of theirs) 10. Oh my! 11. Fearless 12. Anyone 13. 24/7 hours They've some diff unit songs too For performance unit its I Don't understand but i love you, whisper, pang, highlight, moonwalker and for hiphop unit It's Monster, Fire and for vocal It's yawn, habit and pinwheel. And for their solos Hoshi- stay, spider. Jun- limbo, psycho. Woozi- Ruby. The8- side by side. Vernon- black eye. Dino - Wait. Mingyu and wonu (both)- Bittersweet. I really love to talk about them It's so fun😭

YES DANCE PRACTICE YES GUIDE LMAOOOOO

Dance practice video?!?! If you start watching dps from seventeen you HAVE TO start with AJU NICE (Very Nice) or just maybe pretty u bevause it's basically shows that they are truly the theater kids of kpop also clap is ok to start with I guess and you should also really watch the video for that one it's giving real time editing! Also probably my favorite korean title track

i'd love to see a guide to seventeen !! a super long guide to seventeen by caratline17 is really good, but it IS a REALLY long guide. 4 videos, so idk if you wanna have a long video / videos on your channel ^^

I'm a little surprised that you haven't reacted to any BIBI or Bang Yong Guk. Those are story-heavy, or editing-heavy.

yes please do the seventeen long guide❤

I need him to react to the mv that Vernon edited.

you HAVE to react to the super dance practice

Hey, I think you'd like Hit by Seventeen. It has some crazy transitions.

Can you please react to Nightwalker by Ten 💜

Dreamcatcher ootd reason 🎤🙏

REAGE AO MV DO SEVENTEEN - HIT ♥

i do think u need to watch the behind the scenes to fear!!! i love it a lot and i hope u get to see what happened when they were shooting it!! [kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rdWZpqqDrcCZhac.htmlsi=lmnrWRIgrKjOoV__] nothing tops the lipstick scene for me: jeonghan only took one shot for it haha that's so cool anddd yeah! i do agree with u watching guides to svt! hopefully welcome to caratland soon!!! ^___^ thanks for your hard work today!

13:24 Whats going on with his coat/jacket?

I think you should watch going Seventeen

I love you

Hiiii, can you react to "caos" by k4os? is an Argentine girl band inspired by kpop

I do think it would be fun if you watched some of the earliest mv's just to compare because like Adore u... not great editing on that one...

imo guides are not actually that useful bc they boil every member down to a few tropes/bulletpoints which just isn't a good way to get to know anyone especially when a good chunk of them are fandom terms like comparing them to animals, instead I'd recommend watching official content like variety shows (knowing bros for example gives everyone an individual segment and they're all wearing nametags) bc those are MADE to promote/introduce the group to the general public - it'll be very confusing at first but it's better to recognize them based on how they work within the group, like "that's the loud one" or "that's the tall one" etc

See Gidle revenge MV please ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️

please react to aespa's SM Culture Universe episodes ! you'll love it for sure 😎

My Recommendations : *"SUPER LONG SEVENTEEN GUIDE 2023 - INTRO #1" by caratline17/@caratline* *"SUPER LONG SEVENTEEN GUIDE 2023 - HIP HOP TEAM #2" by caratline17/@caratline* *"SUPER LONG SEVENTEEN GUIDE 2023 - PERFORMANCE TEAM #3" by caratline17/@caratline* *"SUPER LONG SEVENTEEN GUIDE 2023 - VOCAL TEAM #4" by caratline17/@caratline*