Cerebus: The Barbarian (Issues 1-25)

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Strange Brain Parts

Strange Brain Parts

2 жыл бұрын

An examination of the very early years of the independent, creator owned title, Cerebus. Created, written and illustrated by Dave Sim. Published by Aardvark-Vanaheim.
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@komickid833
@komickid833 2 жыл бұрын
I saw this and I was like, "didn’t you already do two cerebus videos?" And then I realized it was the first 25 issues. This is such a good video, it makes me want to read Cerebus. Up to a certain point.
@ZillMob
@ZillMob Жыл бұрын
Yeah there is definitely a cutoff point. Probably after Jaka's story I think
@ZillMob
@ZillMob 5 ай бұрын
@aaronjohnson7812 there is still some dun stuff later. Mainly the actual comic pages, as opposed to the giant chunks of boring text
@robling1937
@robling1937 2 жыл бұрын
That "Hello and welcome" is so welcome after not getting a video for a while (but the wait is always worth it). Hope all is well for you!
@unrulysimian3897
@unrulysimian3897 2 жыл бұрын
An excellent overview, as always. Personally - I don’t care how far off the deep-end Sims went - this will always remain high on my list of achievements in the medium.
@StrangeBrainParts
@StrangeBrainParts 2 жыл бұрын
Clearly, I agree...about the achievement, not my overview. I don't get to decide what is or isn't excellent. That's up to you fair people.
@dantecrottogini529
@dantecrottogini529 2 жыл бұрын
This series is so fascinating. I want to and don't want to read it at the same time so i'm glad when people make videos about it
@alexjohnson9798
@alexjohnson9798 2 жыл бұрын
The greatest comic of all time imo
@ForlornFea
@ForlornFea 2 жыл бұрын
This is starting to become a series of its own! I am sure this will continue to be fascinating!
@ZillMob
@ZillMob Жыл бұрын
I would like that very much
@penelopegreene
@penelopegreene Жыл бұрын
I think back to these times and I am speechless. The schools, the teams, the miserable family, they weren't my real life. The books, and the games, and the popular and graphic art. This was my real life.
@ZillMob
@ZillMob Жыл бұрын
Cool perspective
@Heyzeus101
@Heyzeus101 2 жыл бұрын
Sir every video you upload I look forward to watching multiple times. I follow a lot of channels about comics and yours is the only one I pay something to support. Keep up the great work!
@StrangeBrainParts
@StrangeBrainParts 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your support. And I assure you I will continue to do my best well into the future. I may not have an amazing output at the moment, but I do want to make the time you spend watching a worthwhile experience.
@edatthegovernance
@edatthegovernance 2 жыл бұрын
Geez. I have such memories of this series. And it aches seeing how seeds planted here bloomed... and then rotted.
@russellsmith1605
@russellsmith1605 2 жыл бұрын
To this point I knew very little about Cerebus beyond what I had heard. This video makes me want to actually read it for myself! Well done!
@powerbad696
@powerbad696 2 жыл бұрын
Me too,Russell and Groo the Wanderer. LOL.
@powerbad696
@powerbad696 2 жыл бұрын
Me too,Russell and Groo the Wanderer. LOL.
@ottosixtysix8546
@ottosixtysix8546 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats on your target sharp take of the early issues of Cerebus. I was an early fan and promoter of Dave's work back when the first 25 issue were new. Your ability to inform and entertain has only gotten better over the "gulp" years you've doing this. Who knew it would last this long. Thankfully, it has and we are all the richer for it. Stay strong, don't falter. Everything your doing is right.
@FemboyCatGaming
@FemboyCatGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Your original Cerebus video introduced me to the series and it is now my favorite comic. One interesting detail in these early issues is Cerebus’s own celibacy/disinterest in women. The punch line of both Red Sophia and Jaka is cerebus’s own disinterest in them. This joke seems to be subverting the the expectation that a hero be a womanizer or have a love interest. By the time you get to Jaka’s reappearance in High society Cerebus has begun having feelings for her again and by his marriage to red Sophia Cerebus’s sexual proclivities become a running gag (Sophia yelling his fetishes from the roof tops, Cerebus’s hermaphroditism, his implied homosexual urges in minds and guys, and even down to his inability to stop chasing women in the latter days damning him.)
@lucassiccardi8764
@lucassiccardi8764 2 жыл бұрын
I think you're absolutely right in pointing that out. Cerebus' lack of interest in women gives to these early issues the flavour of infancy on another level still. Looking back to the beginnings with the knowledge of what's to come (as when Cerebus remembers or dreams of his younger self later in the series) is heartbreaking. Politics apart, one thing's for sure: Dave Sim, behind all his flaunted cynicism, was deeply romantic (and maybe still is).
@sarawelling5271
@sarawelling5271 2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty much in the "you are great" camp. Love your videos.
@StrangeBrainParts
@StrangeBrainParts 2 жыл бұрын
You are too kind. Hopefully that opinion doesn't change.
@LegoJunk128
@LegoJunk128 2 жыл бұрын
Every new Cerebus essay you drop is a gift, man. You're the most eloquent person talking about comics on youtube and that will be recognized in due time. Got back into Cerebus after watching your first video and made it all the way up to Going Home before needing a break to maintain my sanity. I believe it is mostly a beautiful comic even if Dave has an ugly mind. You're the best as far as discussing its craftsmanship and not just the problematic stuff.
@MrChristopherMolloy
@MrChristopherMolloy 2 жыл бұрын
Always glad to see your videos in my feed 👍
@cghirardo5951
@cghirardo5951 2 жыл бұрын
Great job and insights as always.
@jakepalermo9181
@jakepalermo9181 2 жыл бұрын
Man this is great even for returning readers like myself. I forgot some of the details including what lead to the first mind games. Thanks for this.
@StrangeBrainParts
@StrangeBrainParts 2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! One thing I discovered that I had misremembered (and it was in my first draft) was that the Macguffin in High Society was acquired from Henrot. So very wrong on that.
@johnsonbenjamin887
@johnsonbenjamin887 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video !
@joshuastencel28
@joshuastencel28 2 жыл бұрын
You're doing an awesome job dude!! This is what feels right!
@TheGreatAukGaming
@TheGreatAukGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Certainly took an interesting direction after issue 25
@jacob_ian_decoursey_the_author
@jacob_ian_decoursey_the_author 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so elated you’re still doing what you’re doing!
@Rosabel_Believe
@Rosabel_Believe 2 жыл бұрын
Commenting to please the beast. Always very excited to see new uploads from this channel. It remains one of the best on the medium if not the platform.
@KulchurKat
@KulchurKat 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Hope you will continue with these deep dives further into the series. High Society to Jaka’s Story is arguably the greatest run in monthly comic books!! And alongside that is Sim’s leading role in the self publishing phenomenon and creator’s rights. An all-round interesting time in the history of comic books.
@StrangeBrainParts
@StrangeBrainParts 2 жыл бұрын
Tentatively, I'd like to do High Society and Church & State, which is when the series organically develops into a critical darling. Then Jaka's Story cements that reputation. High Society is probably a future addition but I have to set aside time to re-read it and make notes.
@dustindinsmore5448
@dustindinsmore5448 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoy your videos when I take the time to watch them. 😌
@FatalJay
@FatalJay 2 жыл бұрын
Bro, so glad to see you back, and glad to see you talking about cerebus again
@notmyname5591
@notmyname5591 2 жыл бұрын
Love the channel
@jimgillespie6109
@jimgillespie6109 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, you are the greatest YouTubist (?) ever! While I have discovered other comics-related channels in recent months, yours is still my favorite. I'm loving these reviews of Cerebus. More, please!
@Anders010
@Anders010 2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos man
@adrianvelante8014
@adrianvelante8014 2 жыл бұрын
Yo glad to have you back bro
@StrangeBrainParts
@StrangeBrainParts 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I'm always around, trying to get more work done. Once I can get a new computer (my current one is a decade old and has some issues) then I think my output will become more stable.
@iansmart4158
@iansmart4158 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos on this book has made me DESPARATE to cop the Cerebus Phonebooks. It would be much cheaper to just get them all digitally, but there's something about the looks of those PHONEBOOKS. I really want them. Was thinking about skipping this collection, but your vid has made me greatly reconsider. Great work as always!
@ZillMob
@ZillMob Жыл бұрын
It is fun to have them all on your shelf. The price is pretty cheap too like $25 bucks for the big ones and it's not hard to find them half off around the internet
@ShonJonify
@ShonJonify Жыл бұрын
These Dave Sim/Cerebus Videos Essays Are Amazing
@StrangeBrainParts
@StrangeBrainParts Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! There are more to follow.
@ShonJonify
@ShonJonify Жыл бұрын
@@StrangeBrainParts U Welcome, I'll Be Sure To Tune In To Your Channel
@ZillMob
@ZillMob Жыл бұрын
@@StrangeBrainParts woo! That's what I like to hear!
@tompuce84
@tompuce84 2 жыл бұрын
LOVE THE SHOW!!!
@StrangeBrainParts
@StrangeBrainParts 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! I hope it continues to be entertaining well into the future.
@spongebobsquarepants4576
@spongebobsquarepants4576 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for explaining all the references and parodies
@pootisengage6672
@pootisengage6672 2 жыл бұрын
I love this channel. I hope you grow bigger friend!
@stankovicf
@stankovicf 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid!
@matheusveras9128
@matheusveras9128 2 жыл бұрын
I had heard about cerebus importance but I hadn't give it enough credit. Now I do. I'll try to read it cerebus now. Hello from Brazil, loving your channel
@fernandoorozco5968
@fernandoorozco5968 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@TheBeird
@TheBeird 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating topic
@cirilhorjak769
@cirilhorjak769 Жыл бұрын
You are great, that's for sure.
@otaha1988
@otaha1988 2 жыл бұрын
You know I just watched your other video and service the other day and was hoping you'd do an in-depth breakdown of it I guess wish granted
@StrangeBrainParts
@StrangeBrainParts 2 жыл бұрын
Wish heard and granted!
@SaltonGreen
@SaltonGreen Жыл бұрын
For years I never knew how to pronounce any of these names. Thank you lol!
@robertopulitano8093
@robertopulitano8093 2 жыл бұрын
I read Cerebus when I was still learning English, so I skipped any non-dialogue text. Because of this, I was able to read Cerebus just as a comic book, taking all the innovative narrative techniques, twist and turns of the plot at face value. For me, the comic was about how power can corrupt and pervert anyone (both men and women). I later found out about Dave Sim and all that jazz - do you think we can overlook Sim's views and focus on the narrative techniques of Cerebus or is that impossible? Also, where is the Jim Starlin Warlock video? Did you remove it? Great content as always,
@Getwright-
@Getwright- 2 жыл бұрын
That was the best “like share subscribe “ pitch iv ever heard. Full stop.
@StrangeBrainParts
@StrangeBrainParts 2 жыл бұрын
Ha ha ha. Thank you. It was completely unscripted babble at the end of my recording session that I decided to keep.
@AlienIOIandroktone
@AlienIOIandroktone 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting to hear how it started off, after hearing you talk how it continued
@eyesontheinside5776
@eyesontheinside5776 Жыл бұрын
absolutely love these videos! you should check out the illustrations by gloom hammer
@pablom.g-m
@pablom.g-m 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid. I’ve been putting off reading Cerebus for a long time, mostly because of the investment of time, but this made me want to give it a try.
@nerdfatha
@nerdfatha 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! i always look forward to seeing your stuff. the algorithm doesn't like telling me, though, which is annoying.
@otaconpunished
@otaconpunished Жыл бұрын
More of these, please.
@StrangeBrainParts
@StrangeBrainParts Жыл бұрын
High Society will be the next one, after the one I'm working on now. Church and State is written and will follow some time after that. So, your polite request will be fulfilled!
@johndevitofranceschi1587
@johndevitofranceschi1587 2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this overview. Thank you. Will you be taking on "High Society" (26-50) next? I was introduced to Cerebus just as the last issue of HS came out so I got to seek out and binge on 1-50 nearly all at once.
@ZillMob
@ZillMob 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for putting together the puzzle from mind games! I think Dave mentioned something about the panels going together in the letter section but I could never figure it out. Thank you for answering a 20+ year old question in my brain. Does this happen for any other issues? Maybe in other mind games?
@StrangeBrainParts
@StrangeBrainParts 2 жыл бұрын
To the best of my knowledge Sim only did this the one time.
@ctbinary42
@ctbinary42 2 жыл бұрын
Great overview of the beginning well before Sim went off the deep end
@pqribber
@pqribber 2 жыл бұрын
you mean when he wrote something brilliant instead of just another boilerplate saga?
@bluespaceman7937
@bluespaceman7937 2 жыл бұрын
@@pqribber He did a lot of great work...and then he lost it.
@pqribber
@pqribber 2 жыл бұрын
@@bluespaceman7937 in your opinion, and those of many 'proto-feminists-who-cannot-have-their-ideology-questioned-or-their-brains-collapse'. his criticisms are more apt today, than ever. the work, itself, is quite amazing and important.
@bluespaceman7937
@bluespaceman7937 2 жыл бұрын
@@pqribber Well, I agree to disagree. Even at the time, most people thought what happened to him was weird and creepy.
@jpboursaw4469
@jpboursaw4469 2 жыл бұрын
As usual, I don’t want that ten minutes to be up! I forget where exactly, but later in the series Sim would revisit parodies such as the Roach, Andy Warhol, Mick Jagger & Keith Richards, even a John Lovits SNL character wasn’t safe. There was at least one scene that seemed to come directly from a Chuck Jones cartoon as well. Would love to see your take on other similar titles of this period. There was not only an explosion of more graphic books, but more black and white experimental books than ever before. Top suggestion would have to be the Puma Blues. Love and Rockets a close second. That is, if you feel like it. Kinda sorta maybe.Or whatever. It’s tough enough belonging to a club that would have me as a member…
@StrangeBrainParts
@StrangeBrainParts 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, there is a Puma Blues video deep in the Overlord archives. Love & Rockets is something I circle around *constantly*. I keep writing about it but then hit a wall because it really is that good and I just geek out. :)
@jpboursaw4469
@jpboursaw4469 2 жыл бұрын
@@StrangeBrainParts I hear ya! There are a numerous bucket items I’ve been trying to get back to little by little, but the last four years I’ve had issues. (Hah! More like a subscription…! Covid Schmovid.) But that L&R is in the works for somewhere down the line? Schweeeeeeet… Geeking it IS all too easy. But don’t worry. It don’t mean nuthin’. Which is to say, it means everything. Hee hee hee…😉
@lucassiccardi8764
@lucassiccardi8764 2 жыл бұрын
I think you're talking about the "Guys" phonebook.
@78deathface
@78deathface 2 жыл бұрын
I ❤️ Cerebus
@SIQN-
@SIQN- Күн бұрын
Ok ok… I’ll comment on a video. I enjoy your work. We do think alike.
@MarkWithASilentQ
@MarkWithASilentQ 2 жыл бұрын
14:06 -- that's nifty
@orcwarchiefreviews
@orcwarchiefreviews 2 жыл бұрын
Wait to see if you do any of the Conan comics
@therussiancomicbookgeek
@therussiancomicbookgeek 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting
@leroypreston2973
@leroypreston2973 2 жыл бұрын
I feel that this is an interesting look at the the series as it was before the controversies. Also maybe we should have something to talk about with Cerebus beyond Sim's misogyny. It's good to bring up the offensive views in art, but it gets repetitive after a while that all we can talk about is it's offensive elements. Sim's misogyny has been brought up countless times. Bringing up other elements of the series or what it was before it became Sim's vehicle for his views is a change.
@ZillMob
@ZillMob Жыл бұрын
Heck yeah. I like the misogyny talk as much as anyone. But I do like hearing about the actual story too
@raiden_187
@raiden_187 2 жыл бұрын
I missed u yo.
@StrangeBrainParts
@StrangeBrainParts 2 жыл бұрын
Missed you, too. :)
@ishotmyboss
@ishotmyboss 2 жыл бұрын
I have lots of questions that I hope you can answer in future videos. I reread these books constantly. Why did Jaka jump in front of Cerebus on the gangplank? I couldn't find any clue or law that the Cirinists would have arrested him on a technicality if he walked in front of her or if they could interpret her being on the boat distracted by autographs as her seperating himself from him due to abuse. That's what I'm assuming they were trying to do, but I flip through all the conversations with them on the boat and his talks with F. Stop Kennedy about where they will disembark, but can't find a concrete line to confirm why they assembled an army there. Maybe my digital copy is missing a page. It's missing pages here and there. Was Artemis really Cirin's (Serna) son? Some of the weird metaphysical revelations declare him a manifestation of an aspect of Cerebus, but I don't think his aardvarkian nature could conflict with another's bloodline and warp that reality.
@ZillMob
@ZillMob Жыл бұрын
You want to know as much about cerebus as I do. What I really want is a complete issue by issue breakdown with notes preferably by Sim himself. Or more KZfaq videos like this would do
@jikorijo4516
@jikorijo4516 7 ай бұрын
⁠@@ZillMobIf you want extra commentary by Sim, he provides them in the reprints for the first 25 issues of Cerebus, under the title Cerebus: Bi-Weekly and in the first collected trades for the series, The Swords of Cerebus. Sim also provided commentary in the reprinted issues for the High Society/Church & State storylines. Some of this material (Sim’s notebooks, commentary, etc.) is available for free on the A Moment of Cerebus blog online.
@kevinsieg2076
@kevinsieg2076 Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see further analysis of Cerebus, starting with High Society.
@StrangeBrainParts
@StrangeBrainParts Жыл бұрын
High Society was already done and Church And State will be up in a few days.
@kevinsieg2076
@kevinsieg2076 Жыл бұрын
@@StrangeBrainParts fucking A!
@kevinsieg2076
@kevinsieg2076 Жыл бұрын
@@StrangeBrainParts Thank you.
@StrangeBrainParts
@StrangeBrainParts Жыл бұрын
My pleasure. Thank you for watching.
@caincha
@caincha 2 жыл бұрын
Seen this one the day it was released but just now got to write a comment: it's been a while between this and the last video does it mean you not having time for it or lost the joy of doing it - or perhaps it was always few and far between like that..? Not complaining just genuinely curious cause I really enjoy your view in comics even when I disagree with it and the way you talk is really soothing - very different than all other people out there screaming for attention. Plus when I see your videos I can tell your love for the media and feel like I'm back to my collector days way before life got in the way and I had to stop collecting (and ended up selling everything - long story 🙄) Anyway keep up the good work. I been unemployed for a while but once I get back on my feet I will check your patreon for sure!! 😊
@StrangeBrainParts
@StrangeBrainParts 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear you are unemployed. I hope matters improve for you in the very near future. As for me, the slowdown in productivity has been for a few factors. The most notable is I had to get a full time, day job. Obviously, that eats into a lot of the time I have to produce videos. Secondly, my computer is a decade old and it's been having a fair amount of issues recently. When I edit videos it randomly crashes and, well, this is a rather frustrating part of the process. In fact, I had to render this video four times before it was free from glitches. I assure you my dedication and interest have not waned whatsoever. More is definitely forthcoming.
@caincha
@caincha 2 жыл бұрын
@@StrangeBrainParts oh no I was unemployed, just recently got a new job. Will take a while till things get back to normal - few loans to pay 🙄 - but should be alright now that the pandemic seems to be under control. If KZfaq channel does not pay your bills you're more than right to prioritize your full time job. Keep the channel as a hobby till it starts making profit then you can consider if you gonna make it your job or not. As for computer I seem to remember you mentioning you got an old Mac Pro is it? I don't now how old but a 2020 iMac 27" with 8 core i7 and 8gb GPU ain't too expensive now that Apple released the new M chips and it is still a very decent machine for video editing even with just 32gb RAM. It's the one I got and it's amazingly fast to render - plus the form factor saves A LOT of space even compared to the 'trash can' Mac Pros... Anyway keep up the good work. Can't wait to see what's next :)
@leonidasnoble6939
@leonidasnoble6939 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it seems like flattery is as addictive as heroin to these successful creators. And, just as destructive. They start out committed to their craft, but as soon as the accolades start to pour in, they begin believing in their own infallible greatness. Much to their detriment. It makes me wonder how people like Neil Gaiman and Keanu Reeves are able to handle it so well. Maybe the truth is, they don’t. They’re just better at hiding their self-absorbed crazy. Great work!
@JTR_3
@JTR_3 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe they accepted the have that side to them and are able to manage it a lot better than most
@ishotmyboss
@ishotmyboss 2 жыл бұрын
You should make a short to remind people that Saga has new issues finally.
@Goetz1998
@Goetz1998 2 жыл бұрын
It’s such a shame I really want to read this every time I see images but then I read the fucking dialogue or hear the stories and it’s like nah I’m good
@jongon620
@jongon620 2 ай бұрын
Which issue is it that creates a large poster?
@ishotmyboss
@ishotmyboss 2 жыл бұрын
I've always read it as Conip-tins. There is no O.
@djo-dji6018
@djo-dji6018 Жыл бұрын
Everybody is terrified to just analyse Cerebus without first apologising for Sim's (controversial? to whom? and who cares?) views on women and religion...
@pendafen7405
@pendafen7405 Жыл бұрын
Who cares? Um, women who can and do read, maybe? Respect if it's not a problem to you, but many readers with different chromosomes to yours don't want to be lectured by the author that they're by definition worthless soul-sucking black holes of need and succubal emotion and are entirely responsible for destroying humanity (yes, Sim did go that far, several times). I'm sure if Sim was an unapologetic, m!l!tant and vocal raging misandrist, you wouldn't be shrugging it off and saying "who cares?".
@rmack6184
@rmack6184 Жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity anyone know the name of sims kull parody?
@ChrisLawton66
@ChrisLawton66 10 ай бұрын
This series was brilliant before Sim went of the rails.
@lucassiccardi8764
@lucassiccardi8764 2 жыл бұрын
Even if I have been harshly critical of your channel in the past, I have to admit that in this video, thanks to its being far from the political issues, you show real interest and appreciation for the series. Watching this, you making a video about Cerebus doesn't feel a pretext. Well done.
@joedent3323
@joedent3323 Жыл бұрын
Good work man! Glad to see some love for Cerebus. It deserves it. Your opinions and thoughts are always interesting and insightful. Cheers! "LiL'JpD."
@lucassiccardi8764
@lucassiccardi8764 2 жыл бұрын
Talking about personal tastes: who else thinks that a) the two-part story introducing the Cockroach is better than the Palnu trilogy? b) the first Mind Games (issue 20) is better than all the following iterations and is in itself a high point in the comic medium? c) that the final trilogy is disappointing because of the third bit, but that the second is one of the best issues of the early Cerebus?
@DonTheMoron716
@DonTheMoron716 Жыл бұрын
The early Cerebus comics are Conan parody. It's fun but Cerebus didn't get good until High Society.
@samwill7259
@samwill7259 2 жыл бұрын
I, for whatever reason, have never fully delved into the remarkably misogynistic breakdown of this series and its creator. Maybe I should...on the other hand maybe I really shouldn't.
@StrangeBrainParts
@StrangeBrainParts 2 жыл бұрын
For me, this is a fascinating topic. Obviously...I've done three videos about the series at this point. If I had to elaborate on what is fascinating, it would be witnessing (in real time, I should add) a creator flourishing and taking bold chances, then becoming overcome with astounding hubris, leading to a legacy that is, like the main character, unloved, forgotten and alone.
@brittlby4016
@brittlby4016 2 жыл бұрын
I like to think that I can separate art from the artist. To me, the greater sin is the back third of the series when it becomes self indulgent, meandering and nonsensical. Characters lose their character and become mouthpieces for an argument he lost years ago but refuses to concede. I’d have been content with more adventures unentangled from his world view. But that could just be my “feminine void” talking.
@bluespaceman7937
@bluespaceman7937 2 жыл бұрын
Well, as you illustrated, they kind of go hand in hand here.
@brittlby4016
@brittlby4016 2 жыл бұрын
@@bluespaceman7937 I’d have been perfectly happy if he’d dropped #186 like a hot turd, then kept telling an engaging story. But I see your point.
@sfoxhound
@sfoxhound 2 жыл бұрын
there's a strange duality in the morals of media consumption. on the one hand people say if you don't like the new interpretation,reboot, sequel or next chapter of something you loved that the new thing isn't something to be mad about and that its fine to have everything out there. at the same time others will see a section of work that's problematic, offensive or just plain disgusting and say that it's not ok to enjoy the previous parts of that work. sooo which is it? is there a sliding scale?
@damianmonke3922
@damianmonke3922 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly cerebus’s relationship with Jaka in the later books (including going home) reminds me of Brian griffin and all of his weird sexual relationships. I’m sorry i just Gotta say it why did Dave Sim write a bestiality relationship?!
@andrewpytko4773
@andrewpytko4773 Жыл бұрын
Anti-Feminism IS the mark of an intelligent person.
@kauswekazilimani3736
@kauswekazilimani3736 10 ай бұрын
The man seems more than an anti feminist. In alot of his writing he isn't really critiquing feminism. Alot of the time he just criticises women wholesale as a concept.
@richmcgee434
@richmcgee434 2 жыл бұрын
Oh hey, the one part of this ultimately dreadful series that was actually fun to read.
@NoOne-uh9vu
@NoOne-uh9vu 2 жыл бұрын
As mentioned by many before and I'm not defending Sims sexism in any way BUT if you replace women with men (or white people in general for that matter) in Sim's ramblings then he would be celebrated as a brave and stunning progressive voice smashing the patriarchy. Nobody would even dare to criticise Sim in fear of being deplatformed or worse. Thats where we are at now. The hypocrisy is off the charts.
@pendafen7405
@pendafen7405 Жыл бұрын
Except no, in the context of the period, they wouldn't. Men being men and having male clout and energy and time to invest in a dumb comicbook war would absolutely have banded together in a nerd horde to shout Sim down and put a stop to any hypothetical misandry before he got a full phonebook of polemic on the shelves. Women, especially in the comics industry at the time (1980s-90s), were not afforded the space and cultural power to decry what Sim chose to publish, so the small contingent who were aware of it were expected to "shut up and take it, bitch"...like almost everything else in society then and now. What you're perceiving as a sudden 'female dominance' in our contemporaneous times is a hegemonic smokescreen set up by megacorps, meant to trick women into a false sense of security and emotionally-manipulate men into hating women to the detriment of all---divide and conquer to control, the oldest trick in the book (and one Cerebus himself would surely appreciate)....just so you know.
@NoOne-uh9vu
@NoOne-uh9vu Жыл бұрын
@@pendafen7405 I appreciate your perspective I really do but I meant that nowadays in retrospect he would be celebrated by the woke press as a stunning and brave pioneer of the movement. Trust me that’s exactly how it would be and thus exposing the general hypocrisy. Anyway I see your point too. Thanks 🙏
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