For those of you that are irritated by this video and think I am hating on the CFMoto Ibex 450 here is a link to a channel full of shorts of the Ibex 450 to get you excited. www.youtube.com/@Motorbike_Engineering176

Nobody cared or even knew about the ibex 800. Lots of people are excited about the 450. The new transalp has been out for a year and there’s plenty of aftermarket parts already. The ibex 450 is going to sell like crazy.

Well I made the jump! Sold my KTM 390 Adv and bought the new CFMOTO 450MT! Fantastic bike that suits me perfectly. Heaps of parts and accessories coming out, but because of how popular this bike has been the suppliers can’t keep up with the demand. The 390 was a great bike, but the 450MT kills the 390 in what you get for your money. Don’t forget CFMOTO own 51% of KTM and they are now manufacturing for Yamaha. Problem also with the 390 I had spend a lot of money get to function as an adventure bike. With 450MT it’s ready to go, off the showroom floor! If you like spending money then there’s crash bars top and bottom, skid plates, taller seat, slip on exhaust etc. Over 400 were pre sold in Australia before they hit our shores. There’s still back orders to filled. I was lucky to get one! No regret purchasing this bike at all. Oh first service will be way cheaper than the KTM as well.

Interesting take on both the CFMoto bikes… no opinion is wrong… For your consideration… - CFMoto Ibex 800T: This may be marketed as an Adventure bike; however, in practical terms it only looks like one in that it has upright seating. It has an engine designed by KTM that has been used in KTM’s adv bikes. That doesn’t make the 800T an adv bike. It’s primarily a paved road bike that would likely be fine for good, unpaved surfaces (places a Prius could safely go), although you could take it anywhere your skill level allows. With regard to after market parts there really isn’t anything that is needed that CFMoto hasn’t already put on the bike. You might consider the lower crash bars which match the installed uppers, and possibly a tall seat - both of which CFMoto will sell you for a low price. A deflector might be all that is needed on the OEM wind screen. Now if you want to buy the bike to ride it like you have rode your 390 or Tenere in similar places, I’m in 100% agreement after market support is weak or non existent. If you did want this bike to ride places you show in your videos, you’d have to ask yourself why. There are so many better choices, one of which you already own. - CFMoto Ibex450: I have no idea what CFMoto will include on it. It is likely they will provide desired parts for protection. At the projected cost of $6500 you might consider if it’s worth it to add lots of protection. Evaluate the skid plate it comes with and add a set of Tusk or Barkbuster handguards. What else do you really need? I’m excited to see these new CFMoto bikes and others such as the new Royal Enfield Himalayan. Bike manufacturers haven’t been giving consumers many options, especially price conscious ones. India and China have a lot to offer. Japanese and European bike makers need to wake up and meet their new competition.

I think you are totally wrong with your prediction. The CFMOTO 450MT will be bike of the year. There is way to much hype for aftermarket companies to not take notice and see the opportunity to make some money. Touratech/SW-Motech and all the other big brands will have accessories within a month of it's release. Remember my post ☺️

The Ibex 450 is the hottest ADV bike on the horizon. I have a deposit down on the first one my local dealer gets. They are not scheduled to be released till Fall at the earliest, so how could aftermarket companies develop parts without a bike as a template ? The smart companies will jump on it ASAP.

Great video! Even the new Kove 450 has aftermarket support. BTW the Kove is an awesome adv bike!

Very good and valid point to consider.

Hopeful companies see the potential in the 450 market and get on it! I know my dealer is excited to get them in. I'm still holding out for that 390 adventure r.....

What did the aftermarket manufacturers say when you asked them their plans about CFMoto support?

I dont think thats a big issue, you can get accesories for another bike and adapt them, worst case have a skilled local metal shop do bars & skip plate not that complicated for experienced mechanics. IMO the elefant in the room for this chinesse bikes is the steep resell depreciation.

Very true! I went to a Honda dealership to look at a few bikes, they also sell other makes but the manager who has worked there for 20 years told me to reconsider the crf300L and to buy the CFmoto Im not sure if i should take his recommendation seriously or not because they're 2 different bikes in my eyes (adv vs dual sport) plus it will be my first bike and i think the cf will be too heavy for me to pick up multiple times if i drop it offroad (which i dont think the places i want to take the cf is made for unlike the crf)

Having a Dealer network and aftermarket support is important to me . Maybe things will change with time so I will be waiting on the side lines for now . Right now we have some great choices with more to come from well know manufacture’s .

Hey Matt good points here. However I dont think a lot of people care. Some want the 450MT so bad they can taste it. lol The following here for the 450MT in Australia is pretty big and growing. The 450MT stock has a lot more going for it that the 390 at the moment. Maybe other companies outside of the USA are looking to produce parts, especially from China. The other side of the coin is you will save shitloads of money by not buying crap you dont need! 🤣😂

have the 450mt for a month now, most of the accessories i have installed are aftermaket

I ordered the 450 today and asked for the crash bars and big front mud cover (should also be available). Modding the bike in Europe kind of makes you lose the warranty. In my country they offer 5 years warranty. So i'll keep also an old DR 350 for the woods and mods :)

Truth! I had to modify some Altrider foot pegs for my ibex.... However I get a set of Double Take Adventure mirrors, Barkbusters, luggage system through Shad... modified my shift lever.... added a windshield extender... so far really not that bad.

People keep saying the Kove 450 has aftermarket support. sure but a simple search shows 90% of the aftermarket support is Chinese made accessories from Aliexpress, Amazon, Ebay etc. Very little are from N America or Europe.

This was a major issue I had with a GPX Moto I owned a few years, in fact, most of "OEM parts" didn't fit or work well. It was maddening to get anything for the bike, I imagine this is the case for most China bikes.

I was thinking the same about the Kove 450 and there are tons of stuff coming out.. I wouldn't expect anything to the MT450 yet as the bike is not even out yet... This isn't a CRF.. but I bet there will be some stuff in the next year after it is out..

Nice MC if wet wt. was actually as light as. KTM 390 adventure, but similar to the new Hond NX 500. So why bother with this bike when a new Honda NX 500 is less risky ?

Hey Matt I found a site that carries limited parts for ibex 800 it’s CFMOTO USA parts operated by Curren RV just letting you know thanks for the info vid I am interested in the Ibex 450 waiting to also see the MSRP

I think many people are excited for this bike; many of which will never do any serious off road riding. Rather they will use it for a on road utility bike. If you are a hard core adventure rider, you are probably looking at more suitable options that are well established with boat loads of aftermarket support. With that said, I would be more than happy to ride this on the street and some occasional gravel and dirt roads. It comes with enough bits and bobs to suit me. Just my 2 cents.😊

Here in Europe, CFMOTO already selling quads, SSV, etc. So there are distributors. Also on facebook, a lot of group is formed around the 450 MT. So this could quickly change... But yeah, any sea route disruption (Suez canal) can cause supply issues.

Honestly, the 390 Adv was a bit of a pain to find things for when I got my 2020. Especially the spoked wheels. I'm looking forward to the 450 coming out and plan on at least taking it for a spin to see how it feels. I think if a lot of people jump onto this platform if won't be long for accessory companies to jump on too. On the flip side maybe this will rekindle the 490, which was the only bike I really wanted to see happen. I loved my 390, but I so looking forward to the 490. I was hoping the 490 would fix a few of the things I thought could have been better on the 390.

I will disagree. If the bike is popular, it will have aftermarket support. I think the 450mt will be very popular for $6500.

Its nice to have a new player in the market and cf moto seem to be listening to the masses ...smaller bikes..but apart from the twin motor they seem to have missed the mark..why is it so heavy?..they keep mentioning the 175kg dry weight like this is a good thing wet this will be approaching tenere weight with little power...20kg heavier than a 390 adventure with less power 🤷🏼‍♂️

You are absolutely correct about aftermarket support, I think there will be good support for this bike (if it rides OK and is a good price) within a few months, the other thing to consider now is China's economy is really bad, a lot of major companies are going to the wall, it seems to be more of a problem with electric vehicles rather than motorcycles, but it is something to keep an eye on.

Not much after market accesories because stock gears might be pretty capable and sufficient ! ?

There are already engine modifications available for the 450 Platform as CFMoto has been using this engine in three other models.

Have you looked into the 790adv aftermarket. I’m sure a lot of those parts will fit the 800. As the duke 790 aftermarket parts fit the 800nk. 2nd thought: You build your own stuff a lot of times with these Chinese bikes. The only reason the hawk 250 has the aftermarket it does is because of guys like me buying one and building it themselves.

The 450mt has similar specs in power & weight as a KLR650 but you wont have problems finding dealers or after market parts for the kawasaki. But the market should grow over time.

Not all of us worry about buying a ton of aftermarket parts for a bike that starts with a decent setup.

Waiting for the versys 450x. So far kawasaki has not really come out with a tenere competitor and they are late to the party. I am really hoping they go the small adv route with the 450.

Check ProCycle and Camel ADV . Probably nothing but maybe they could mod some foot pegs and maybe something else .

I dare to differ from you. MT450 was launched in Australia this week and all items you mentioned are already available. There are 500 pre-launch orders for this one model in Australia at a launch price of USD5187 (AUD7990). That kind of volume will get dealerships and the aftermarket industry moving very quickly - too many potential sales to ignore and only 20% of the price of a 2024 BMW 1300GS. (For context our total population is only 7% of the USA population). Just my own opinion, but you might be surprised at the offtake of this bike and the Royal Enfield Himalayan 452 (same price).

will buy the 450MT/Ibex after the global launch which is happening in my country this march 21st.

Yeah, new bike and no aftermarket have access to them yet. Check back in 6 months after the launch and see if this is still true. If it’s a very popular bike, aftermarket will support it, if it isn’t, it won’t have a strong 3rd party support

Well, I’m sure a few will wanna be Beta testers Give it a year or two and see how it plays out

That is why you watch it for a year. The Kove 450 has aftermarket companies starting to make accessories. It is in high demand because the sales are through the roof. What you failed to mention is that the Ipex 800 comes with the accessories you need. From the pictures, it appears to have crash bars, skid plate and luggage rack. Handguards are generally a universal fit item.

Might take a year or two, but with time the aftermarket scene should really expand for this model.

As an AJP PR7 owner (less than 500 bikes built per year) it is possible to find aftermarket parts. Luckily the most important parts (skidplate, footpegs) are good, others are industry standard, but all parts which require replacement (wheel spacers, luggage rack) are available. Some of them are made by small companies, some by owners, but if a bike is sold for a few years and it has a enthusiastic followers after market parts will be available. It could take a few months, but someone will see the demand and make parts... Other: the hype is really big about this bike and I think most people will be a disappointed especially if they are coming from bigger / larger capacity bikes.

With a 29” inseam and half the price of a Tuareg or Ténéré the Ibex is quite appealing 👍

Well maybe us americans need to pony up and start making some aftermarket parts for the bike, like custom skid plates and foot pegs springs. I imgaine the forums for the bike are going to be full of creative people coming up with solutions that get the ball rollling on making it more offroad capable. If these bikes sell as well I expect them it could have a big following behind.

It is surprising how slow the ADV aftermarket is for the CFMoto bikes. Their ATV's and SxS's seemed to have a lot more effort from parts manufacturers and distributors.

Chicken and egg problem. Kinda normal.

Give it a chance, mate! It's a new bike, very much in demand. The after market will catch up, fast. Cfmoto has already made a hit with side by sides, and ATV's, and tgey have lots of support.

You will get aftermarket parts once the 450 hits the streets. Consider that the first year or two is a guinea pig period, where they will polish out teething issues with the help of early adopters. By 2026, this should be a polished product and the aftermarket will catch up

Before I watch, I reckon that if 450mt is as heavy as 700 tenere it does not make sense to buy. Not considering aftermarket support and reliability concern.

Thanks for pointing out! But I am pretty much sold on the 450. I live in Medellin Colombia I will buty the options that CF moto has. Here labor is cheap. Would love the T7 if I could at least get both of the balls of my feet down. bcs here is is super hillie even in the city and will could vave a slant too. at awerging place or a stop sign. Hopfully is sucessful and the third party will jump in. Here I get penalized on all motos 30% tarriffs Crazy. but save $$ in other aspects of life!

Australian Market has heaps of options

Puig , givi, ermax all make accessories and windscreens for the 800MT/IBEX

Like that fake plastic rock at the end, we have one too where i stay as well, like the cf Moto the heavier weight would help it not be blown around in the wind as much 👍

The new ktm 390 adv that will come out likely next year might be my unicorn. These twins are just too damned heavy for any real offroad.

I think you told us that...water is wet

The 450 is going to break the market. It's so much more than the Himalayan 2. It will be our first Chinese bike that we are excitedly waiting for and ready to buy as soon as it comes out. To the GS fat guys, I'm going to send greetings from the top, where they can't get to.... and back, on the mt 450 we can also go for coffee and pick up women. That's life. Full of surprises.

Sorry Matt there’s already a lot of after market accessories and the bike he’s just beginning to be delivered here in Europe !

Aftermarket has not started making things for this brand simply because they are unsure if there will be enough consumers purchasing the motorcycles. The same can be said about the Royal Enfield Himalayan. This companies are competing with massive brands from the Japanese and European. Come to think about it I have not seen any aftermarket support for the Harley PanAmerica, outside of in house support. I think that will change soon

There is a load of aftermarket parts for the 450......

Why are they being haters ? Maybe the big 4 are telling them not to make parts for them 🤷🏼‍♂️ who knows

You just had to do a search, Mr Yang.

ADV Matt needs to do some better research me thinks. Look at the extensive list of super cheap accesories (except hard panniers) CFMoto have listed. I can fully farkle a 450 MT for under $1500, actually under $1k.

skid plate is the Least problem ... ktm390 has Not even ground clearance or suspension... the essensials of adv....

It took me a bit to come to terms that the 390 ADV I was about to buy was built in India. Fortunately, after owning and riding it for 3 years, the bike turned out to perform well, though the budget nature of the fit and finish is apparent. At least the bike has the KTM name behind it. I know when I go to sell it, that name recognition will help. It would be a MUCH bigger leap for me buy a Chinese brand. The truth is that resale on Chinese bikes is terrible. They simply do not have a reputation for reliability, support, etc in N America. If you buy a CF Moto, just know you’re likely to take it on the chin when you go to sell it.

I think you'll have to post an update after it is released in the USA. ALL NEW BIKES have delays in getting accessory parts. It happened to the T-7 and it will happen to all new bikes. I think your title is click bait. This is the first video I've watched of yours, but if this is your take, I'm not so sure I'll watch others. Your title and take are a put off - seems like a scare tactic. You are 100% wrong that the T-7 had lots of aftermarket stuff when it first came out...

Have to disagree here. This bike is the upgrade to CRF300 Rally which sells great, and the Ibex already has almost everything u need. If u need handguards, tires, luggage anything will fit. I prefer the oem plastic skidplates for noise, but any metal one can fit with a little handy man skill. Kove is ripped off China junk, period. Been there dont that and they DONT have aftermarket support, its just Honda/KTM expired copyright parts that RMATV put under that category.

Serious Maker guys make their own parts such as skid plate or etc. CF moto engines are KTM engines. People relies on this fact.

There are 800's everywhere decked out. Alliexpress, considering the bikes origin. This makes sense. Don't agree with this video

I’m sure the bike is fine. But when I purchase anything, like for instance the water hose I bought the other day, I research it to see if I can get something that isn’t manufactured in China. I’m a big fan of Taiwanese products. I always try to purchase from something manufactured in a democracy. I understand my phone is made in China, I have heard all the arguments. I just go for harm reduction wherever I can. I am not against Chinese people, and I am not saying all Chinese products are bad. I am just saying that the CCP is an authoritarian dictatorship. I wish Chinese people were free, because China could be the greatest nation in the world if it were not for the Communist Party of China.

This is just fearmongering because you personally don't want a chinese bike

bit of scare mongering and click bait title....