Trying out 15/45 sprockets on the CFmoto 450mt

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Bazz 66

Bazz 66

8 күн бұрын

Trying a friend's bike which has 15 front sprocket with 45 tooth rear, let's see what rpm is at 100 kmh.

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@ozmarineboy1090
@ozmarineboy1090 7 күн бұрын
Thanks for the video mate. Hope you enjoyed my bike, I really like the new gearing on it.
@bazz6670
@bazz6670 6 күн бұрын
Cheers mate, thanks for letting try it out. It rides nice and I do like the gearing , be good to get it off road and see what gearing is like on the tracks and hills.
@Gmac237
@Gmac237 6 күн бұрын
Great work you guys a wealth of information 👍All I need now is to find a 450MT of my own to try all your great mods out on. 🙏
@bazz6670
@bazz6670 6 күн бұрын
Thank you for such a great comment. Hope you find one soon.
@editandreel
@editandreel 7 күн бұрын
Hi Mate. Nice video👍 I think a lot of people waiting for this test. In my opinion the gear box is made not for higway and the solution of this, is change front sprocket to 15T and we find optimum. Best regards from Poland!
@bazz6670
@bazz6670 6 күн бұрын
Thank you, I'm glad I had the opportunity to try the bike with 15/ 45 gearing, we will get it out in the bush sometime and see how it goes. The gearbox is close in gears but maybe it's like that because of the motor size. Cheers from Australia.
@dertechniker8867
@dertechniker8867 5 күн бұрын
​@@bazz6670that's the problem. I don't understand why they didn't made a 500cc with 48 hp. My Brixton Crossfire 500 XC has 500cc with 48 hp and the engine is a dream and don't need any modifications.
@bazz6670
@bazz6670 5 күн бұрын
@dertechniker8867 it would be spot on with a 500 cc motor, the motors in these bikes have been around for a long time in the road bikes like the 450 sr and nk, they just retuned them to have power lower down.
@OzADVRider
@OzADVRider 6 күн бұрын
That high seat looks good!
@bazz6670
@bazz6670 6 күн бұрын
The thickness makes it soft and can move around more.
@AridersLifeYT
@AridersLifeYT 4 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing, i cant wait to get mine soon.
@bazz6670
@bazz6670 4 күн бұрын
Cheers , hope you get your bike soon.
@bwlyon
@bwlyon 7 күн бұрын
It would seem if you’re doing some long distance touring the 15/45 sprocket setup would be very nice if not optimal. I can’t wait till we get this 450 in the USA. I’ve contacted my local dealer and they’re not sure when they are going to get them and aren’t ready to take deposits yet. Thanks for the video.
@bazz6670
@bazz6670 6 күн бұрын
Thanks for checking out my video, hopefully you get the bikes soon, I can't understand why USA is slow getting them in some states. Gearing will be nice for your long highway stretches.
@michiganmoto7687
@michiganmoto7687 4 күн бұрын
@@bazz6670We are always nearly a year behind on getting all the bikes when the rest of the world gets to enjoy them. We also do not get all the variations of the models that most other parts of the world get. Example: Tenere 700. We only get it in standard trim. It seems the motorcycle industry seems the US less deserving. We are afterthoughts and get the left overs. Yes I’m bitter but happy for those of you that get early access to new inventory. Cheers 🍻
@makomadeira5799
@makomadeira5799 6 күн бұрын
Thanks for the great video. Will changing the sprockets void the guarantee? Subbed.
@bazz6670
@bazz6670 6 күн бұрын
Thanks for the sub I appreciate it, I don't think it is a warranty issue, if something did happen just put original back on .
@68chewy
@68chewy 6 күн бұрын
I will be wanting to use my 450MT in mountains and unpaved roads, so prabably going to leave sprockets where they are. Will be getting the seat and risers tho, I im 6'2". That wide footpeg looked interesting...
@bazz6670
@bazz6670 6 күн бұрын
Thanks for commenting. If that's the riding you are doing there is nothing wrong with the stock gearing. You will be better with risers and seat I find I get a sore hip from sitting low. The pegs are from alixpress I think but them ones are a bit of an angle so he is getting different ones. Look in the comments for ozmarineboy1090 . He owns the bike and may be able to assist better. Cheers.
@Ps-fd1gx
@Ps-fd1gx 4 күн бұрын
What is the top speed with 15/45 sprockets?
@roadstrom
@roadstrom 3 күн бұрын
That will certainly make it better for touring. I seriously considered selling my V-Strom 650 for one but after a test ride they just don't have enough power for high speed long hauling.
@bazz6670
@bazz6670 3 күн бұрын
@roadstrom The vstrom is a great bike, I had a series 2 . It was actually better on fuel than the 450. It's only as I get older I am enjoying the lighter bike and ease of off-roading. Cheers for commenting.
@nevillegreg1
@nevillegreg1 7 күн бұрын
How does it wheelee with your set-up and this set-up and compared with stock? I don't mean stunt riding, more like the effect on getting that front wheel up when riding over wet greasy logs on an enduro trail. Is it easier or harder to lift the front wheel with the modded gearing?
@ozmarineboy1090
@ozmarineboy1090 7 күн бұрын
i havent wheelied it yet, new to adventure riding pretty much. slightly harder to lift wheel a it has less slightly less power available now
@lukaxbd2384
@lukaxbd2384 6 күн бұрын
It is gonna have less power/torque and acceleration so i dont see the point in doing that because the bike already isn't soo powerfull and it is not made for cruising
@beejoutbush3322
@beejoutbush3322 7 күн бұрын
Awesome mate. My set up for long hauls! Any word on the mileage with this set up?
@ozmarineboy1090
@ozmarineboy1090 7 күн бұрын
it is similar, around 4litres/100km. it's my bike
@beejsmusic
@beejsmusic 5 күн бұрын
@@ozmarineboy1090 Where did you get the rear sprocket mate? Brand??
@johnnieuwenhuizen606
@johnnieuwenhuizen606 3 күн бұрын
Good homework, gearing looks good, what is the GPS on the bike please🙂
@bazz6670
@bazz6670 3 күн бұрын
@johnnieuwenhuizen606 Jason has one of those car play units. I didn't try it out, but he likes it.
@stevesanelli90
@stevesanelli90 7 күн бұрын
Thanks Bazza, just for reference for everyone including me, what sre the revs/speeds between the stock factory gearing, the 15T front sprocket only ( with stock rear sprocket) and going to the front 15T & 45T rear? Please? Cheers!
@ozmarineboy1090
@ozmarineboy1090 7 күн бұрын
around 6000 rpm stock at 100km/h, 5200rpm with 15/45 sprockets now
@bazz6670
@bazz6670 6 күн бұрын
The 15 dropped rpm to about 5400 . It is still pretty good at that rpm
@Nunyabiz71
@Nunyabiz71 7 күн бұрын
So which bike has the same rear sprocket? Ive been looking for a 45 rear but everyone says not available.
@bazz6670
@bazz6670 6 күн бұрын
The 450 sr or nk are the same. Look on ebay or rpm moto have them. There are heaps if you search on line.
@corpse2222
@corpse2222 7 күн бұрын
how much taller are the bar risers? And, did he have to get longer cables, or was there enough extra length to just throw on the bar risers?
@ozmarineboy1090
@ozmarineboy1090 7 күн бұрын
they are 1 inch risers from ebay. cables were fine, can tilt bars to suit if needed
@corpse2222
@corpse2222 6 күн бұрын
@@ozmarineboy1090 thanks so much! :)
@user-bc1tm9ko8p
@user-bc1tm9ko8p 7 күн бұрын
Do u have link for your GPS divice? I see a lot in aliexpress with carplay do u recoment eny one? Thank you in advance
@bazz6670
@bazz6670 6 күн бұрын
Car play looks good. I put the zumo on my own bike for the fact that quite often phone looses signal. I believe he got it from alixpress..
@FlatBrokeAdventures
@FlatBrokeAdventures 6 күн бұрын
Thanks Baz I was wondering what the difference was
@bazz6670
@bazz6670 6 күн бұрын
Thanks for checking it out , it's good I got to try out gearing before buying myself more sprockets, we will try it off road soon.
@FlatBrokeAdventures
@FlatBrokeAdventures 6 күн бұрын
@@bazz6670 Let us know please as I'd be interested in getting mine done also
@binguskhan1
@binguskhan1 7 күн бұрын
Where are the sprockets from? Does the 450MT share sprocket sizes with another model?
@bazz6670
@bazz6670 7 күн бұрын
The 450 sr and nk are the same. The owner of this bike found another front sprocket for 650nk on allixpress which is genuine cfmoto and a tighter fit than the jt brand.
@metalsadman
@metalsadman 7 күн бұрын
400nk and 650 nk is a perfect fit.
@zynth123
@zynth123 6 күн бұрын
@@bazz6670 Link? 🙂
@scottastell9415
@scottastell9415 8 сағат бұрын
Very interesting but what is it like off road with that lowered revs?
@bazz6670
@bazz6670 6 сағат бұрын
@scottastell9415 I haven't ridden that bike off road as it doesn't belong to me, I just have the 15 tooth front sprocket on mine. 15 is good and still tractorable in second. I think off road I wouldn't go the 45 on rear.
@pawelwolski1316
@pawelwolski1316 4 күн бұрын
I wonder if this is not too much of a compromise? How will this gearing work on slow trails? As stated before, riding back to back 14 and 15t already compromised some acceleration/tight roads fun factor and slow tech type of trail riding. Sucks that the transmission higher gearing is so short for highway riding.
@bazz6670
@bazz6670 4 күн бұрын
After today off road in very muddy conditions I'll stick with 15 tooth and not do rear at the moment. It is still tractorble in second on hills and good on hwy. Everybody will have different needs and likes. It's not really a compromise, I have changed gearing on most bikes I've owned.
@pawelwolski1316
@pawelwolski1316 4 күн бұрын
@@bazz6670 Thx for the info.
@kvndleee
@kvndleee 2 күн бұрын
@@bazz6670 im still thorn if i will change the rear sprocket to 45T, currently im using 15T at the front. Im more on 90% road and 10% off road. What do you think bro?
@bazz6670
@bazz6670 2 күн бұрын
@@kvndleee Doing the 45-tooth rear will drop the rpm another 200, personally I'm just going to use the 15-tooth front. my bike sits on about 5400 rpm. It does make the bike cruise nice at over 100 kmh but there is a tiny bit of slower acceleration. if you are doing long hwy trips and don't do hard off-road tracks it will be good. I do hwy to get offroad and hills. I hope that helps a little, you can always try it and compare.
@kvndleee
@kvndleee 2 күн бұрын
@@bazz6670 thank you!
@EddyOtway
@EddyOtway 7 күн бұрын
I’m definitely going the higher seat but when standing I feel the bars need to go lower and forward a bit🤔
@ozmarineboy1090
@ozmarineboy1090 7 күн бұрын
i am getting offset bar risers for it now to move bars forward a bit instead of the standard ones in this video
@markhills3922
@markhills3922 6 күн бұрын
@@ozmarineboy1090 yeah i'll be doing the same; i'm 6'2" so i need the extra room; i'm thinking of getting some new lower bar mounts made up that spread the weight out more over the top clamp; to me, the standard 'risers' look spindly and very vulnerable for off-road duty; i'm still waiting for my 450MT to arrive but having sat on it, these were my initial thoughts.
@bazz6670
@bazz6670 6 күн бұрын
How tall are you, the seat is nice. I'm OK with the bars but standing, it will be better for me with risers.
@EddyOtway
@EddyOtway 6 күн бұрын
@@bazz6670 I’m 180cm
@bazz6670
@bazz6670 6 күн бұрын
@@EddyOtway same as me
@eskerinola5845
@eskerinola5845 7 күн бұрын
Hi there; 1- Isn't that thing on top of the speedo blocking your sight? 2- I wonder how the 450 would've behaved (i.e. gral. vibration and revs) @ 120/130/140 km/h which are closer to real speeds for long trips. Since most of us do not have the luxury of a truck to take the bikes to a trail road, we might need to ride them at highway speeds for hours. This is way, at least for me, highway speeds are a dealbreaker at selecting the right bike.
@cangaroojack
@cangaroojack 7 күн бұрын
Hey mate! I can't speak for personal experience since i've not ridden the bike, but reports from trusty journalists here in Italy all say that at highway speeds (here the usual is 120/130 and 140 for the eventual overtake) all say that the engine stays smooth as butter, but the revs are decently high at cruise speed with still some legs for the eventual overtake. So the consensus is that it's not ideal for touring, but a couple of hours of highway are no problem, might need a rest stop here and there if you're a taller biker! So far the only thing i don't really like is the fuel economy
@ozmarineboy1090
@ozmarineboy1090 7 күн бұрын
it goes fine at 130kmh, i havent tested faster yet till after 1st service. it doesnt block my sight at all, i'm 186cm tall
@cangaroojack
@cangaroojack 7 күн бұрын
@@ozmarineboy1090 Oi mate! Thanks for jumping in! I'm a little taller at 1.90 and havent had the chance to sit on one yet! So how are you finding the knee bend situation? Is the tall "Rally" seat a must? Thanks a bunch!
@bazz6670
@bazz6670 6 күн бұрын
Thanks for the comment, it looks like view is blocked because camera is below chin height but not problem with visibility. With the gearing changed bike drops rpm a bit and is quite comfortable. The twin is very smooth. I can say it is way better for long distance than my old dr 650.
@yrc4184
@yrc4184 7 күн бұрын
Whats about acceleration after that change ? I bet its a bit slower ?
@bazz6670
@bazz6670 6 күн бұрын
It is a little bit less snappy but nothing to worry about, I think the benefits are worth it if you are doing long rides.
@17003719
@17003719 7 күн бұрын
Would you recommend doing a 16T front?
@bazz6670
@bazz6670 7 күн бұрын
I'm not really sure about 16 on front, I have been told 1 tooth up at front equals 3 down on back so 16 would be a 41 on back . Need someone to try it.
@ozmarineboy1090
@ozmarineboy1090 7 күн бұрын
better to balance between front/rear. not sure how much free space to go up to a 16 either ?
@ruigarcia4807
@ruigarcia4807 6 күн бұрын
Hi. In Portugal this youtuber put 16 on front. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/psuUm7ygrseWd2g.htmlsi=CPBjEiViDJ3REPlt
@markhills3922
@markhills3922 6 күн бұрын
@@bazz6670that is correct Baz; 1 tooth down/up at front equals 3 teeth up/down at rear; this is the widely accepted general rule of thumb; as an ex racer i know this to be true; stock gearing on 450MT is 14/47 so 15/45 would be roughly same as 14/42; that's a big difference; i think i will leave 14 at countershaft and go to 44 at rear with chain adjusted for wheel all the way back so that for longer periods on the tar (say all day) maybe carry a 15T front that can be swapped over.
@markhills3922
@markhills3922 6 күн бұрын
@@ozmarineboy1090 absolutely need to keep balance between front and rear to avoid what they call 'chain snatch' as the suspension moves through its travel; it might be ok to go 16 (if there's space) on the front for a road bike but for a bike that is going to see dirt, rocks and mud, we need to keep space between the chain and the engine cases; built up mud/debris at the countershaft is bad for chain wear but a small misplaced rock can be all kinds of ride ending if it gets lodged between chain and cases; speaking of which, i don't like the look of the solid countershaft cover either.....i'll be drilling a few slots/holes in mine so that dirt/mud/rocks has somewhere to escape.
@josesantizo2305
@josesantizo2305 6 күн бұрын
What sprockets these have from factory? 14/47?
@bazz6670
@bazz6670 6 күн бұрын
Correct.
@ervinmadaras7124
@ervinmadaras7124 3 күн бұрын
Test a top speed pls.
@LoudValves
@LoudValves 7 күн бұрын
The cops just say that knowing that speedos read high...
@bazz6670
@bazz6670 7 күн бұрын
I know but still safer, I often go a bit over without realising.
@custardcatcher5195
@custardcatcher5195 6 күн бұрын
@@bazz6670 will u do a petrol test soon?
@markhills3922
@markhills3922 6 күн бұрын
DEMAND to know what their radar is calibrated from; no calibration report, no fine; when we DEMAND (politely) to see the Cerification and Calibration report, they MUST show it; ta ta Mr Plod; Crime is out of control and they are still focusing on Extorting money from people just going about their day to day lives without harming anyone.
@bazz6670
@bazz6670 6 күн бұрын
​@custardcatcher5195 we can try but my bike has 15 front, Jason's bike has 15/ 45 so if we can get a ride together we will fill up same time.
@iliasch5203
@iliasch5203 7 күн бұрын
What about top speed?
@ozmarineboy1090
@ozmarineboy1090 7 күн бұрын
higher than before. i only took it to 7000rpm being a new bike not done 1st service yet, and it got over 130kmh easily before i backed off
@iliasch5203
@iliasch5203 6 күн бұрын
@@ozmarineboy1090 we know stock top speed is 160 at speedo due to rev limiter. Adding one T at front gives a theoretical new top speed of 171. It would be interesting to see what the engine is capable of. Nice vid ;)
@MudaholicJR
@MudaholicJR 6 күн бұрын
What's the original sprocket?
@ozmarineboy1090
@ozmarineboy1090 5 күн бұрын
14t front, 47t rear
@paulvandervyver4223
@paulvandervyver4223 5 күн бұрын
Definitely needs a bigger screen
@bazz6670
@bazz6670 5 күн бұрын
It would be nice, I haven't put one on my own bike yet but will eventually.
@thelonewolf666
@thelonewolf666 4 күн бұрын
the phones gps isnt calibrated, they are always out
@bazz6670
@bazz6670 4 күн бұрын
Best to stick to the speedo on bike I guess. Gives you a few kmh safety.
@MalHanson
@MalHanson 7 күн бұрын
Hi Baz, regarding the higher seat can you tell me your height? I'm 5'7"/170cm and have the standard seat. Do you think I'd still reach the ground? I've also done the 15T front sprocket (after watching your previous vid), and that alone makes the bike much more comfortable on the freeway.
@bazz6670
@bazz6670 7 күн бұрын
I'm 5,10 I can touch both feet but not flat footed, you can also lower bike at the bottom of rear shock.
@MalHanson
@MalHanson 7 күн бұрын
@@bazz6670 Thanks Baz, it sounds like the high seat isn't for me!
@phillipchandler8862
@phillipchandler8862 6 күн бұрын
Std gearing is off road biased.
@bazz6670
@bazz6670 6 күн бұрын
Yes it is very good off road,
@krazed0451
@krazed0451 6 күн бұрын
What's the stock rear sprocket size?
@bazz6670
@bazz6670 6 күн бұрын
It has a 47 tooth
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