I think he's being intentionally slow to get more blue flags.

Vettel getting blue flagged by a force india or whatever the fck they're called 2020Ferrari things

In one year he went from “COME ON BLUE FLAG, MOVE!” To: “another blue flag, guess I’ll move over again 😔”

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As soon as the video started the song came to my mind. xD

the + 5 laps race

Eh, true, but given that the track is mostly straight it'll be NBD to yield compared to a lot of others.

lap time difference will be smaller too though, think of that, so if the williams' are only 1 sec a lap slower then in a 90 lap race then they wouldnt even get lapped twice

I think they should adopt the NASCAR approach of letting lapped cars fight back.

Wozrop doesent make sense at all in F1. Because lapped cars are usually 1-2sec slower per lap in a race. There is not much fight back in there.

Turn 8 in turkey will harm some pirellis real bad. My guess is pirelli will blow up the tires around 30psi and bring in the concret rubbers. 🤓😅

i do agree that all the corners you named are now diferent with the way the cars are built now but, with all the racing happening i dont think those corners have lost their magic. Eau Rouge still had a big accident just a year ago (R.I.P Hubert) and most of those corners are still a challenge to go flat out on!. i do agreee a video about it would be cool. but dont forget 2022 should be different than what we see now

130r is another one that they take flat out now.

Reminds me of Keke Rosberg telling he has a pic on the wall of himself top of the Raidillon all wheels 1 foot off the ground. When that could happen, it was a very different corner for the driver.

Yeah but it is flat out because they changed it in 2003 or 2002

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you mean the 2020 +5 laps race

oh god Blue Flag airways, always late

@An0n his comment is 6 month ago bruh

And Piquet to Salazar (not that it would've mattered anyway).

in online its crashing out the leader

BC648 or: F1: lapped cars can unlap themselves Ocon (Brazil 2018): allow me to introduce myself

It used to happen, but they somehow messed it up in F1 2017 which is why they removed it. N o clue why they haven't fixed it yet though...

@@JNST2023 still no clue why lapped cars arent ghosts. in almost every case they re just trolling and trying to take everyone out

@@keisuketakahasi4584 in online they can be ghost... It's a lobby setting

Yeah why did the did the FIA never thought of this?!?

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A fun race?

@@apexinstinct it did seem that way

ApexInstinct extremely fun race

@@matthooigray Haha yeah it was great! Just my luck lol

looks like you got a great race too

"the system works, until it doesn't"

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@@olegpetrovic ?

It is, the problem is that in oval racing getting your lap back is a quick process, often it takes less than a lap to pass the field drive around and join the back. In F1 its completely different due to the length of the tracks... Even at pace car speeds it can take multiple laps at full race speed to catch up to the field, and often the ones unlapping themselves are running to a minimum speed, not the potential of the car, making the whole process longer

@@zwartvalk2738 that was unnecessarily aggressive

@@zwartvalk2738 Absolutely no one cares about whether you like nascar or not.

@@TaikaJamppa oval racing its boring my friend its not nascar itself because i've seen their road course races and they are really good

I'm sure I've seen this in Indy Car back in the day as well, especially at the Indy 500, but I could be wrong.

I agree. We should remove blue flags but, just for the races. I honestly think that blue flags can ruin a race.

I think this shows more the inadequacy of those circuits to allow faster cars to overtake. As a compromise I think blue flags should be used on these circuits , but on all others the top drivers should have to overtake the slower cars on track as they used to back in the day. The only problem that I could foresee that would be left is cars from junior teams owed by the same parent company, so Alpha Tauri, or even just customer teams, say Racing Point to Mercedes, might get in the way more of their parent team, whilst letting the others through, but I think something could be done to warn teams to be consistent. I just remember the days when drivers like Senna and Schumacher were so much better at overtaking traffic that it enhanced the racing, it gave more chances for the front running teams to be slowed down and thus there were more potential battles, but I know some will say it caused more headaches, and some drivers were just a real pain to overtake and caused too many incidents. I just don't think lapped cars should move over and let the front runners through, the faster cars should have to overtake, thus not compromising their races, but that's just me.

Blue flags will always remain because there will always be a difference in performance and there will always be problems for the drivers trying to identify which car is coming up behind them. Removing them entirely would be ridiculous and dangerous, it's an imperfect rule but one that can't be removed entirely. The stewards are generally fair when it comes to handing out penalties for ignoring blue flags and only do so if you're actively impeding the progress of faster cars where clear and obvious opportunities to let them by have been refused.

@@DjDolHaus86 I agree with you, I think blue flags are a good idea in terms of telling a driver that a leader is coming up behind them, but your comment on penalties being handed out for impeding I have to disagree with. It seems, after listening to this video, I thought that it was a hard and fast rule but it doesn't seem to be, that the emphasis is on the car being lapped to get out of the way and off the racing line to let the frontrunner through. If they don't do this after 3 blue flags they will get penalised. If, as it seemed you suggested, that say Lewis was coming up to the car that was last to lap him, and whilst going down a straight Lewis had attempted to slipstream and then overtake, as he would with a pass on a driver for position, and the backmarker swerved to protect being lapped then, yes, I'd agree you should get penalised for that, but that's not what is happening here. No overtake is being attempted because the frontrunner expects the slower car to just get out of the way. This to me is a big problem.

Monaco is a problem of its own I played the f1 game and seen monaco races There is no way you can even get alongside the car in front before the next corner and that makes overtaking impossible It has been this way forever Senna was in front of mansell in one race and he was stuck right behind him for the whole race

They also have the FCY. FIA should introduce both features in F1

Endurance racing also has vastly different lap times for the different classes and even for cars in the same class, they dont have nearly the same amount of dirty air. What works in endurance racing wont work in F1

@@andreagconti F1 does. It's called the Virtual Safety Car.

Yeah, it's the because of the massive speed difference between the classes, cars shown the blue flags are sort of obliged to stay on the racing line so the faster cars can safely find a way around them

@@f1fan1998 not all endurance races are multiclass tho, like Spa 24 is all GT3 cars so the gaps aren't as big. It can be a little annoying watch cars hold up the leader in that race l.

Exactly, seems like the simplest solution by far

Just order all the cars in their position order (by dropping lapped cars back) and say everyone is on the leading lap

This.

That would give the (now unlapped) cars an unfair advantage in terms of fuel and tyre usage.

The main problem with this is that they get credit for a lap without using up the fuel and tyres that would normally be needed to make their way around the circuit. It might be a small difference if they would be unlapping gently anyway, but small differences can matter in F1.

Glad I wasn't the only one that heart that. It scared me, thinking there was some alert on my phone or something.

Same i thought something in my house was going off

Ya it was so strange but I still can't figure out the reason behind it.

My suspicion is that it was the censor "beep" for while Max was swearing at the end of the video, but the video ended up longer and Chainbear forgot to move the beep up to where it needed to be with the audio clip at the end of the video.

Haha, indeed. Chain bear, plz clearify!

*laughs in Monza 2020*

@@gabor6259 Yes! And I believe no blue flags were used in this race either.

Sad but true.

Not anymore!

He is the blue flag now

Agreed

Yeah but the leader is already first, he doesn't have to overtake anyone to stay first so why put obstacles in front of him

@@alexismandelias Because making the already weaker cars give way for the already stronger car is a negative feedback loop for the weaker cars. Be slow, get even slower to let faster cars past, etc.

@@FriedrichHerschel why can't we just find a middle ground such that 1) the slower cars don't lose much time 2) they allow faster cars to overtake them easily for example at straights they can move to the side

The teams themselves are more than capable of notifying their drivers as to the traffic situation around them, and whether they are racing for position or not. They don't need a heads up from the track officials.

It’s a matter of how hard the car works the tires from a combination of factors like downforce, tow, etc. The Mercedes car works the tire harder to get it to the proper working temperature faster which works well when it isn’t too hot weather wise. When it becomes too hot the tyre will blister, loose rubber, and loose grip. And if your car is working the tires hard and the tire is already hot... it just gets worse and worse as you loose grip and slide around heating the tires even more

short answer, the mercedes has higher downforce in general than most cars which in turn puts more forces on the tires in the corners wearing the tires more

@@larry5289 Thanks for your explanation! And it makes a lot of sense! I do know that factors such as downforce and tow have influence on the tyres. But it would be great to go into detail a little more. For example I started asking myself why Mercedes, during a whole racing weekend in which they come across those problems, weren't able to adjust their setup so that tyre wear was minimized? And, is "the way the Mercedes works the tyre" directly linked to aerodynamics and therefore unchangeable for example?

Yeah its mostly the design of their aero that cause it, they could do some things like adjust the wings etc. The combination of their high downforce and the heat during that weekend is what caused the issue.

@@diovdL Safety cars can also heavily affect tire life as they can increase/decrease stints (2020 British GP) Also while under VSC/SC your tires are under less stress leading to decreased wear for those laps

Its a sport, the job is to compete not for balance. What's next? A special boost to be given to the most popular driver as voted by fans? In the 80/s and 90s the difference between backmarker cars and leaders were way way way more than they are now. To the point where they needed to introduce the 107% rule.

@@kicapanmanis1060 If that's 100% true, how come so many people are annoyed by Mercedes dominance (and/or Red Bull/Ferrari dominance during the appropriate eras?) When you're at the level of F1, it's not just a sport, it's a show -- and to have a good show, you need both competition AND balance. Just because that was the way it was in the 1980s and 1990s doesn't mean it has to be that way now. You're right, you don't want to throw tons of gimmicks into the equation (though, if you watch any Formula-E, Fanboost exists, and is remarkably useless), but continued team dominance and the feedback loops that support it (as described on this very channel) do F1 no favours in the 21st century.

Would save a free lap of fuel and tires which would give a very slight advantage to the cars involved

@@mattr791 safety car itself is a much much bigger disadvantage to the "cars in front" already. A lap worth of fuel and tyre wear would be a drop in the bucket.

@@mattr791 A safety car is always unfair for the drives in front, as the pack is right behind them again. The tyre and fuel advantage added by not having to do a lap (add reduced pace) is marginal compared to the advantage of getting to unlap oneself, so I don’t really think this can be an argument.

@@DerSim688 Unless it's one of the faster ones and we're nearly at the end of the race, e.g. Sainz, Brazil 2019

All the drivers on the lead lap would need to know exactly which cars they can and cannot overtake, because overtaking behind the safety car is in principle not allowed. It would create even more chaos. The lapped drivers themselves obviously know they are lapped, so they can overtake the cars on the lead lap safely under the current rules.

They don't deserve that fighting chance though

It's not really fair though, is it? They lost that time by being slower. What's fair about a driver being slower, losing time, and then regaining that time because some random person crashed?

That’s the rule of the entire endurance series not just Nurburgring

@@4zap7 My point still stands, I just used the Nurburgring as an example as it's a lot more clear to see as the track produces significantly different pace from driver to driver

@@Taz_XE076 Yes, but multiclass racing involves cars that are LITERALLY not in the same race, nobody cares about overall position, just class position, so there is no incentive to hold up a car in another class. Compare that to F1, where Red Bull has not 2 but 4 cars on track. Gasly would be much more eager to fight Hamilton than Verstappen, which would be an unfair advantage to teams that literally have control over other teams.

@TheBaconHunter nice how remaining anonymous gives you the courage to shit talk random people you don't even know. Gg

Again, inb4 the Alpha Tauri lets Verstappen by but purposefully fights the Mercedes.

Dangerous being the more important point.

I remember that, it was 2018 singapore I believe. and there was a big controversy about someone being penalised for not letting Hamilton pass after 3 blue flags. Even though the 3 flags thing isn't an official rule and there was no opportunity to let him pass because of his own fight.

A solution is when lapped cars are being passed that all position fighting must stop - for both the lappers and the lappees. To go further, add a VSC style delta (between the cars on the same lap) to the lapper(s) and lappee(s) so that the race is neutralised for all in the vicinity of the lapping until the lapper(s) have passed the lappee(s) by a certain distance/time?

This is basically how it works in all motorsports that aren't f1

I mean thats how it should be, just "yo dont slow down for cars lapping you but please respect them and give them space"

Not defending F1's blue flags here, but with the speed differences between classes in WEC, you can't have F1 style blue flags because it would create situations where an LMP1 won't know if the GTE is going to move off the racing line to yield, or if they're going to stay on the racing line and make you go around them. If the LMP1 is doing 200mph at the end of a straight and the GTE in front is doing 170mph, the last thing you want is to commit to moving out to pass them, then the GTE moves over to yield, because that's how you end up with high speed collisions and drivers being injured. It would be the exact problem we have in F1 right now with slow outlaps creating massive closing speeds, and you would potentially have that situation several times a lap. It would be far more dangerous for WEC to have F1 style blue flags.

This aged really badly and its only been a day 🤣

Tyre life

Fuel and tire wear.

It would be unfair as they'd now have the advantage of not having to weather through one lap's worth of fuel and tyre wear, whilst also being allowed to be back on the lead lap.

@@Reydriel altought a lapped car would most likely not have the pace to do too much with that

@@hairohukosu433 That in comparison to the leaders. What about the cars that were just about to be lapped? For example, the leaders lap every car except for the top 6 (when normally they lap everyone except the top 3), SC happens, and now suddenly the cars at 5th and 6th will soon have to defend from the 7th and 8th recently "unlapped" cars with tyre and fuel advantage.